英国拟对美8000类商品征税 || 越南要求美国对越关税降至零

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楼主 (北美华人网)
报复特朗普“对等关税”,英国拟对美超8000类商品征税
据英国天空新闻网报道,英国政府4月3日公布一份产品清单,列出可能作为报复性措施被征收关税的美国产品,以回应美国总统特朗普早些时候对英国征收10%进口#关税#的决定。
报道称,这份清单长达400多页,涵盖超过8000类商品,其中包括威士忌和牛仔裤。 同日早些时候,英国商业和贸易大臣乔纳森·雷诺兹证实,英国正在考虑对美国实施报复性关税。但英国政府同时表示,报复性关税将是“最后的手段”。
此外,英国政府已与有关企业展开为期四周的磋商,讨论报复性关税可能带来的影响。 特朗普4月2日在白宫签署两项关于所谓“对等关税”的行政令,并亮出关于美国计划对哪些贸易伙伴采取关税措施以及征多少关税的表牌。其中,对英国征收关税税率为10%。欧盟以及美国多个贸易伙伴均已表示将要以报复性关税及其他反制措施回应美国的关税政策。
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越南:准备将对美关税降至零,同时要求美国也对越南的关税调整降至零 越南拟将对美关税降至零意欲何为 2025-04-05 13:25:51 来源: 看看新闻Knews
当地时间4月4日,美总统特朗普宣布已与越共中央总书记苏林进行电话交谈,越南方面正与美国进行0关税的磋商,并计划在不久的将来与其会面。
越南官方媒体称,越南领导人愿意谈美国商品零关税的问题,但希望美对越南产品采取同样零关税措施。
越南计划在4月5日派遣由副总理带领的越南代表团访美,代表团成员包括越南的航空公司。此前,越南承诺将大量采购波音客机。
东南亚成美国此次“对等关税”重灾区,其中越南被加征46%关税。联合国数据显示,越南去年对美出口高达1420亿美元,对美贸易在越南GDP中的占比为30%。
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Starmer vows to protect UK businesses from tariff 'storm' 23 hours ago (2025-04-06)
The prime minister has said he is prepared to use industrial policy to "shelter British business from the storm" expected from US President Donald Trump's wave of tariffs.
Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Sir Keir Starmer said he will continue to seek a trade deal with the US to avoid some tariffs, but mooted state intervention to protect the national interest.
"Some people may feel uncomfortable about this – the idea the state should intervene directly to shape the market has often been derided," he said. "But we simply cannot cling on to old sentiments when the world is turning this fast."
The UK was among nations hit with a 10% "baseline" import duty this week.
In addition to the 10% tariffs, a 25% tariff has been put on UK car exports, as well as steel and aluminium products. Many nations will face much higher tariffs of up to 50%, starting on 9 April.
Trump has said his intervention was aimed at encouraging US consumers to buy more American goods and boost the domestic economy.
But the announcement - and retaliatory tariffs from countries such as China - led to stocks plunging more than 5% amid fears of a global recession.
Jaguar Land Rover announced on Saturday it would "pause" all shipments to the US as it works to "address the new trading terms".
Sir Keir wrote: "This week we will turbocharge plans that will improve our domestic competitiveness, so we're less exposed to these kinds of global shocks.
"We stand ready to use industrial policy to help shelter British business from the storm."
The prime minister admitted some may feel "uncomfortable" with the government intervening in the economy, but said the UK could not "cling to old sentiments when the world is turning this fast".
He has not ruled out further tax rises in the autumn, but pointed out the government had resisted doing so in its Spring Statement.
An industrial strategy promised in Labour's election manifesto is due to be unveiled this summer. Elements of that could now be adapted and brought forward to aid UK firms.
In the Telegraph, Sir Keir reiterated the government's position that it would "keep calm and fight for the best deal" with the US, but said "all options remain on the table".
He added: "I will only strike a deal if it is right for British business and the security of working people."
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has urged the prime minister to strike a "deep and meaningful trade deal" with the US, that "delivers growth without compromising on standards".
The UK exported nearly £60bn worth of goods to the US last year, mainly machinery, cars and pharmaceuticals.
On Wednesday, the government published a 400-page list of US goods it could include in any possible tariff response. Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds told MPs the government would consult with businesses on how retaliatory tariffs could affect them.
The list covers 27% of imports from the US - chosen because they would have a "more limited impact" on the UK economy, the Department for Business and Trade said.
Sir Keir said he would also seek to reduce trade barriers with other economies to limit the impact of US tariffs on UK exports.
Over the weekend, the prime minister spoke to several world leaders to discuss how to respond to the US tariffs.
In a phone call with French President Emmanuel Macron on Saturday, the pair agreed a trade war was "in nobody's interests" but "nothing should be off the table".
But both the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats say UK families and businesses will first feel the impact of the National Insurance hike for employers that takes effect today.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89g7g5lx2ko
昨夜小樓聽雨
越南這個想法不現實, 川普要的是逆差消失, 你不能從我這賺錢。
如果你還賺錢,川普搞不好會要你交一大筆保護費!
明媚的优雅
英国会做吗?没觉得这个国家敢违背美国,这俩不是最亲密战友吗?不过也不好说,看看加拿大的下场。
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越南這個想法不現實, 川普要的是逆差消失, 你不能從我這賺錢。
如果你還賺錢,川普搞不好會要你交一大筆保護費!

昨夜小樓聽雨 发表于 2025-04-07 01:53

没错,这次是 “逆差税” 或 “逆差罚金”
====================== 即使,越南柬埔寨,下跪,但预计,川普也不太有兴趣让其降关税,而是... 让这些国家,直接采购进口,按照逆差直接减少的简单比例,以年度或半年度评估或季度评估结果,事后才来,豁免部分关税。 可这两个小国,能从美国买得起哪些呢?买得了多少呢?
对其他经济体,无论欧洲还是日本,来求情时,川普的谈判逻辑,大概率也是类似的。 这样才能马上见效,而不是确定一个关税,慢慢等结果后再调整;无法达到川普心目中的,在美国快速扩大制造业,能在中期选举不lose的结果。
然而,绝大部分的这些国家,国内也是有民意选票压力,或者国企民企的生存空间,无论期间多少意外反转波折进退缓急,最终,只能也是高筑关税墙和行政限制及罚款措施,对抗美国。
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明媚的优雅 发表于 2025-04-07 01:57
英国会做吗?没觉得这个国家敢违背美国,这俩不是最亲密战友吗?不过也不好说,看看加拿大的下场。

“拟加税” 算是个所谓的谈判技巧,或话术。
相当于,拿个罚款清单,去问川普!
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C999 发表于 2025-04-07 01:59
没错,这次是 “逆差税” 或 “逆差罚金”
====================== 即使,越南柬埔寨,下跪,但预计,川普也不太有兴趣让其降关税,而是... 让这些国家,直接采购进口,按照逆差直接减少的简单比例,以年度或半年度评估或季度评估结果,事后才来,豁免部分关税。 可这两个小国,能从美国买得起哪些呢?买得了多少呢?
对其他经济体,无论欧洲还是日本,来求情时,川普的谈判逻辑,大概率也是类似的。 这样才能马上见效,而不是确定一个关税,慢慢等结果后再调整;无法达到川普心目中的,在美国快速扩大制造业,能在中期选举不lose的结果。
因为,绝大部分的这些国家,国内也是有民意选票压力的,或者国企民企的生存空间,无论期间多少意外反转波折,所以,最终,只能也是高筑关税墙和行政限制及罚款措施,对抗美国。

这明摆着不给越南活路,越南从美国那里拿到的顺差相当一部分付给了东大来购买设备零件和原料。如果跟美国贸易平衡了就意味着手里没剩下美元去进口生产需要的东西了,这样下去要么是经济萎缩,要么是跟中国RMB交易,妥妥的去美元化。
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rbgger 发表于 2025-04-07 02:09
这明摆着不给越南活路,越南从美国那里拿到的顺差相当一部分付给了东大来购买设备零件和原料。如果跟美国贸易平衡了就意味着手里没剩下美元去进口生产需要的东西了,这样下去要么是经济萎缩,要么是跟中国RMB交易,妥妥的去美元化。

还有一大部分给三星耐克当利润拿走了。
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昨夜小樓聽雨 发表于 2025-04-07 01:53
越南這個想法不現實, 川普要的是逆差消失, 你不能從我這賺錢。
如果你還賺錢,川普搞不好會要你交一大筆保護費!

怎么办?我从今以后只能自己养鸡、种菜了,can not let the grocery stores to rig me, 他们从我身上赚钱、却从来不买我一样东西。自己种菜养鸡虽然短期内痛苦,长期而言我将以身作则复兴人类自己自足的小农经济,make myself great again!
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这就是懂王粉说的都跪了,除了中国
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Mediterranean 发表于 2025-04-07 07:32
怎么办?我从今以后只能自己养鸡、种菜了,can not let the grocery stores to rig me, 他们从我身上赚钱、却从来不买我一样东西。自己种菜养鸡虽然短期内痛苦,长期而言我将以身作则复兴人类自己自足的小农经济,make myself great again!

如果你同时还欠了别人一屁股子债,连利息都快还不起了,开始养鸡种菜,会是个很好的开始。
事实是我从他们那里买便宜货,花了一大笔钱,自己却没能力赚钱,所以需要节衣缩食来还债了
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如果你同时还欠了别人一屁股子债,连利息都快还不起了,开始养鸡种菜,会是个很好的开始。
事实是我从他们那里买便宜货,花了一大笔钱,自己却没能力赚钱,所以需要节衣缩食来还债了
supertlj1 发表于 2025-04-07 08:37

对的,所以先砸烂自己的高薪白领工作、砸烂自己的商业伙伴,破釜沉舟,砸烂退路,不破不立。饿几天也会挺过来的,不然老惦记着grocery store ,不能自立可不好!
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rbgger 发表于 2025-04-07 02:09
这明摆着不给越南活路,越南从美国那里拿到的顺差相当一部分付给了东大来购买设备零件和原料。如果跟美国贸易平衡了就意味着手里没剩下美元去进口生产需要的东西了,这样下去要么是经济萎缩,要么是跟中国RMB交易,妥妥的去美元化。

Being a traitor is fatal because the "surrender" doesn't work:
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明媚的优雅 发表于 2025-04-07 01:57
英国会做吗?没觉得这个国家敢违背美国,这俩不是最亲密战友吗?不过也不好说,看看加拿大的下场。

今非昔比,俄乌问题上坑了欧洲,人家就不能有情绪啊
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tailor101 发表于 2025-04-07 11:31
今非昔比,俄乌问题上坑了欧洲,人家就不能有情绪啊

亲兄弟,也要明算账。

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没错,这次是 “逆差税” 或 “逆差罚金”
====================== 即使,越南柬埔寨,下跪,但预计,川普也不太有兴趣让其降关税,而是... 让这些国家,直接采购进口,按照逆差直接减少的简单比例,以年度或半年度评估或季度评估结果,事后才来,豁免部分关税。 可这两个小国,能从美国买得起哪些呢?买得了多少呢?
对其他经济体,无论欧洲还是日本,来求情时,川普的谈判逻辑,大概率也是类似的。 这样才能马上见效,而不是确定一个关税,慢慢等结果后再调整;无法达到川普心目中的,在美国快速扩大制造业,能在中期选举不lose的结果。
然而,绝大部分的这些国家,国内也是有民意选票压力,或者国企民企的生存空间,无论期间多少意外反转波折进退缓急,最终,只能也是高筑关税墙和行政限制及罚款措施,对抗美国。

C999 发表于 2025-04-07 01:59

补充:
按中期选举的时间节点,倒推川普的底线deadline,预计必须在2025的秋冬季前,达成几个主要经济体,从美国进口的大额采购合同,不然就来不及了。(搞定采购合同,才会让美国本土企业增加本土雇佣和本土采购,至少6个月后才能真正见效。再加一些缓冲富余的buffer,就是合计至少3个季度,到2026年10月份了。)
那么,未来2-6个月内,就都是这个演戏胡闹恐吓的阶段。
不过,个人预计,几个主要大型经济体,无论期间怎么缓急软硬交错反转起伏,最终,都会梦游般地,晃晃悠悠地,走向贸易对抗美国的必然之路。
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Mediterranean 发表于 2025-04-07 07:32
怎么办?我从今以后只能自己养鸡、种菜了,can not let the grocery stores to rig me, 他们从我身上赚钱、却从来不买我一样东西。自己种菜养鸡虽然短期内痛苦,长期而言我将以身作则复兴人类自己自足的小农经济,make myself great again!

工厂不同于自己养鸡种菜,先要买设备建厂(而不是低成本买几只鸡几粒种子),然后要招工人付工资(而不是你自己免费劳动),然后以合适的价格卖出去(而不是你自己消耗了)。。。这样一套拳打下来,东西价格翻5倍10倍。。。
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新闻来源?因为trump才收英国10%关税,就是最低的一个税率,英国没必要这么做。
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昨夜小樓聽雨 发表于 2025-04-07 01:53
越南這個想法不現實, 川普要的是逆差消失, 你不能從我這賺錢。
如果你還賺錢,川普搞不好會要你交一大筆保護費!

美国就是要你跪下嘛,美国要求你跪下是你的荣耀,美国光荣!人类灯塔!
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meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:34
新闻来源?因为trump才收英国10%关税,就是最低的一个税率,英国没必要这么做。

The full list of 8,000 US products the UK could impose tariffs on https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-tariffs-us-products-full-list-trump-trade-102707526.html

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meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:34
新闻来源?因为trump才收英国10%关税,就是最低的一个税率,英国没必要这么做。

UK lists thousands of US goods which could face any retaliatory tariffs https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-consult-businesses-impact-any-retaliation-us-tariffs-2025-04-03/

UK draws up list of US products it could hit with tariffs https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy09e3nwr3o
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meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:34
新闻来源?因为trump才收英国10%关税,就是最低的一个税率,英国没必要这么做。

PM: I'll only sign US tariffs deal if it suits UK The government says it wants to overturn US tariffs as part of a wider "economic deal" with the Trump administration. But the UK has not ruled out retaliating, with officials drawing up a 400-page longlist of US products that could be hit with British import duties, from crude oil to firearms and bourbon whiskey. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3ev43vqj49o
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meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:34
新闻来源?因为trump才收英国10%关税,就是最低的一个税率,英国没必要这么做。

Retaliation would come with costs – not least for UK consumers who would notice higher prices in the shops for the US goods the government is considering hitting with tariffs, including:  - Meat, fish and dairy products.  - Whiskey and rum.  - Clothing.  - Motorcycles.  - Musical instruments. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/retaliation-or-restraint-how-should-keir-starmer-react-to-us-tariffs
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banlisu 发表于 2025-04-07 07:47
这就是懂王粉说的都跪了,除了中国

和一天解决俄乌问题,异曲同工,又没说现在,将来哪一天都行
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C999 发表于 2025-04-07 20:46
UK lists thousands of US goods which could face any retaliatory tariffs https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-consult-businesses-impact-any-retaliation-us-tariffs-2025-04-03/

UK draws up list of US products it could hit with tariffs https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy09e3nwr3o

今天都7号了,你拿个3号的新闻来说事?而且你发的这几个文章里写的都是”可能会“,说明也“可能不会收”。
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今天都7号了,你拿个3号的新闻来说事?而且你发的这几个文章里写的都是”可能会“,说明也“可能不会收”。
meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:54

2025/apr/07
Retaliation would come with costs – not least for UK consumers who would notice higher prices in the shops for the US goods the government is considering hitting with tariffs, including:  - Meat, fish and dairy products.  - Whiskey and rum.  - Clothing.  - Motorcycles.  - Musical instruments.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/retaliation-or-restraint-how-should-keir-starmer-react-to-us-tariffs
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今天都7号了,你拿个3号的新闻来说事?而且你发的这几个文章里写的都是”可能会“,说明也“可能不会收”。
meetmylove2015 发表于 2025-04-07 20:54

另外,英国人说话,一直就是阴阳怪气的调调,喜欢绕圈圈。
而且,都是英国的内阁主管部长的正式发言说话,难道你也不相信?
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以色列都谈不下来关税,别的国家更别想了 ​​。
巨巨对以色列收17%关税, 以色列已经把对美关税降到了0, 还答应尽快消除贸易逆差。 就这样, 巨巨还是不同意降低关税。必须等到逆差降下来才会降低关税。
Seated next to Trump in the Oval Office, Netanyahu said his government intends to eliminate the deficit "very quickly. We think it's the right thing to do. And we're also going to eliminate trade barriers."
Trump replied, "Thank you, that's very nice." But he gave no indication that the U.S. is willing to back off the increased duties, even on close allies like Israel.
In fact, when Trump was asked if he would lower the new 17 percent tariff rate on Israel, due to kick in Wednesday morning, Trump said "maybe not," adding that the U.S. already gives Israel billions of dollars in aid for defense and other purposes.