骗子是没办法直接从账户偷钱的, 对不对?

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wudadan
楼主 (北美华人网)
新闻里所有被骗子骗了钱的 都是被忽悠 主动汇款给骗子 好像没听说谁账户被盗,骗子直接登录账户把钱转走的
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tonker
wudadan 发表于 2025-04-06 15:01
新闻里所有被骗子骗了钱的 都是被忽悠 主动汇款给骗子 好像没听说谁账户被盗,骗子直接登录账户把钱转走的

未必。如果你的sim被盗,骗子就可以很快通过forget password获得你的账户权限转走钱。
当然有太多了,比如那种骗你手机click一个link,偷偷下载app,steal登录信息
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szchq
如果大额转到非本人的其他账户,好像不能马上转成功,需要几个business day
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wudadan
回复 4楼 szchq 的帖子
普通银行checking账户 同一家银行,不同姓名的人之间都无法转账的
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gokgs
感觉用假支票有可能。 支票好像很不安全。 现在手机拍个照片就可以存支票了, 看不出有任何安全措施。
巧克力泡芙
应该也是可以的,比如quick pay, 连着你的checking account, 就可以把钱转走 同事是受害人,被划走2000刀 PayPal也可以类似操作
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Azimao7
圣诞期间,华人板上一位MM就分享了她在智利旅游期间的遭遇。她的手机被当地飞车党抢了,然后坏人通过手机远程改银行密码,把她美国银行帐户的钱转走了。
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wudadan
Azimao7 发表于 2025-04-06 15:33
圣诞期间,华人板上一位MM就分享了她在智利旅游期间的遭遇。她的手机被当地飞车党抢了,然后坏人通过手机远程改银行密码,把她美国银行帐户的钱转走了。

骗子是怎么解开手机密码的?
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tonker 发表于 2025-04-06 15:04
未必。如果你的sim被盗,骗子就可以很快通过forget password获得你的账户权限转走钱。

这种叫偷,不叫骗
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Azimao7
wudadan 发表于 2025-04-06 15:38
骗子是怎么解开手机密码的?

当时她在与uber 司机沟通,没有锁屏,飞车党从她手里抢走的,所以她怀疑uber 司机与抢匪是一伙的。
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ADLL
是的。
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sayes_no
新闻里所有被骗子骗了钱的 都是被忽悠 主动汇款给骗子 好像没听说谁账户被盗,骗子直接登录账户把钱转走的

wudadan 发表于 2025-04-06 15:01

也是可以的,我们的water district 就被骗子假冒district 工作人员,从银行账号里盗了 15mm。
As the filing outlines, cybercriminals, impersonating District personnel, contacted First National Bank of Long Island and convinced the Bank to make a number of unauthorized changes to the District’s account settings, including allowing online international and domestic wire transfers, services never previously requested or used by the District. They also convinced the Bank to provide them with confidential login information, or the means to create such information, that then enabled them to access the District’s bank accounts to initiate wire transfers. The next business day, the cybercriminals logged in to District’s banks accounts and initiated and authorized 15 wire transfers, totaling more than $15 million, including over $12 million sent to banks in China, within a span of just four hours. Despite numerous irregularities and red flags, including exceedances of the Bank’s own limits on wire transfers by a customer, the Bank processed each of the unauthorized transfers.
https://www.gcpwater.org/garden-city-park-water-fire-district-files-suit-against-first-national-bank-of-long-island/

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gokgs
Short answer:
No, you generally cannot steal money from someone’s bank account with just their account number. But there are ways it can be misused, especially if combined with other information.
Here’s why: 1. Bank transfers (like ACH or wire transfers) usually require: • Sender authentication (login, PIN, 2FA, etc.) • In some cases, additional info like a routing number, name, or even address. 2. Security measures protect accounts from unauthorized access. Simply having an account number isn’t enough to initiate most transactions or access funds.


However, there are some risks: • Check fraud: Someone could print fake checks with your account number and try to use them. • Social engineering: If they have your name and account number, they could try to trick banks or companies into unauthorized withdrawals or changes. • Linked scams: If they also get access to your email, phone, or other personal info, it increases the risk.


Bottom line:
An account number alone isn’t enough to steal money directly, but it’s still sensitive information—especially in the hands of someone who knows what they’re doing. It’s wise to keep it private.
If you’re worried someone might have your info, I can walk you through steps to secure your account. Want to go over that?
一群疯子
回复 1楼 wudadan 的帖子
完全有可能,当然大部分是自己失误操作的。
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gokgs
看来我上面猜的 check fraud 很可行。 美国国税局扣税就是一个银行帐户就够了, 银行对大机构好象没有任何防范。
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abc456
我女儿被骗子骗走了银行卡和密码。前几年加拿大这边很流行的一个骗局。骗子说打了出租车,但是说司机不收现金,只收卡,问我女儿帮忙刷卡,他给我女儿现金,我女儿比较单纯好心觉得应该帮助别人,就帮了。结果假的密码键盘骗走了密码,骗子刷完卡还给她卡的时候掉包了卡,她也没仔细看卡号,因为同一个银行的银行卡猛一看都一样。
骗子迅速用她的卡和密码去ATM取款1000,又去商店消费1000。好在只给她设了一千的限额。她被骗后刚好去商店买东西,刷卡刷不过才发现被掉包,马上去网上银行查询,钱已经少了,然后马上挂失了卡,又报了警。
后来银行经过调查,加上有报警记录,认定她是被骗,虽然骗子没抓住,但是银行把损失的钱赔给她了。如果是那种自己给骗子转钱的,银行是不赔的,这种卡和密码被盗骗的,银行赔。
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yurik
有很多种偷钱方法。骗子自己操作的有account take over和identity theft,其中身份或账号信息可能是通过钓鱼攻击获得的,也可能是黑客攻破某些服务盗取的。通过骗术让账号所有者转帐的scam、杀猪盘等,也非常常见。另外还有账号所有者自己决定骗钱,比如信用卡恶意dispute,这种叫first party fraud。
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believeicanfly
就是因为骗银行账号的行为多了,我发现这几年美国也开始要求密码之外的核对了