同样作为一个改革开放后从中国来美国寻梦的人，再多嘴几句，算是给大家的一个提醒吧。"the FREE WILL is in full effect". 黄金时代不是那么容易就进去的，每个灵魂都要经历各种严峻的考验。 贴一个脸书的帖子， 帖子日期是2023年12月8日 United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization https://fb.watch/yKxuJoQ9AY/ 脸书上的简介： United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization： After 2021 exited 3D systems transitioned into Higher Dimensions Galactic System with guidance & Policy objectives to guide the activities, relationships between countries on Earth & Galactic Stars. 帖子如下: USADHS & ''''human collective'''' last ''''Transition'''' from old to new was on September 30, 2022 - December 22, 2022 with a granted 190 days extension for the [%], End of Faith which expired on June 30th of this year. Since then, the FREE WILL is in full effect and the Law of One. Now as we move forward our last transition on December 22, 2024 (for the sleepwalking ones who (Grand Awakening gone wrong), missed the still Quantum loop shift to Quantum Leap is still known as 2023). Since February of 2012 we’ve been experiencing two parallel timelines, the Old Earth Timeline and the New Earth Timeline. The timeline bifurcation occurred on December 12, 2012. In numerology 2012 was a ‘12th’ year, it was a rare 12:12:12 Gateway. The Quantum Field displays a mystical array of parallel outcomes, flashing as moving holographic mirrors of potential timelines. Within weeks of the 12:12:12=9 Ascension Timeline activation begun, also we completed the initiation of activation of the 12 Amanti Stargate as Star news began to spread of a coronavirus pandemic. Since the 12/12/2012 (12) gateway, there has been an unraveling of all things Atlantean''''s, Terrans etc.... The Time of Reckoning has arrived! After thousands of years, the Atlantean''''s trauma has surfaced in the human collective. All souls with a past connection be it physical or non physical during the Orion Extraterrestrial’s wars and Fall of Atlantis, being triggered to ‘remember’. With all trauma, we are presented with a choice-point. Do you integrate the ‘life lesson’ and liberate ourselves from the buried trauma? Or do you perpetuate another cycle of the very trauma lodged in your body, heart and mind by ignoring, denying, deflecting, dissociating, blaming and demonizing others for your trauma? There''''s no more extensions to accomplish this. “This choice point was a threshold to evolution or devolution”. Back in 12/12/2019, as the Prepared Covid virus began to spread it''''s sound around the world, humanity was presented with a profound choice point, an evolutionary leap into a new timeline as Quantum loop continued side by side simultaneously. From that setpoint on 12/12/2019, two very different corridors began to diverge for human souls to choose from.1). DARK: The old timeline was dominated by ego, service to self, the ongoing Orion battle zone of opposing forces, waging violence on each other for control, resources and power.AND2). Living LIGHT: The new timeline was heart-centered, pulsing in unity consciousness, a collaborative, cooperative experience of mutual benefit, joy and prosperity. For all who spent years facing, healing and transmuting ego shadow, victim programming and trauma triggers, the heart centered past one year timeline was calling you home. Did you make it? As the New Earth Timeline rose in strength and statured during the pandemic, we simultaneously cleared lifetimes of past earthly history and anchored to our new home base. The heart healing supplied what we needed to adjust to our new timeline. As you all levels of humans, Star-seed Souls, Diamonds and Crystalians we are now in 2024 entering 2025 (to calendar time), planting our final diamond/crystalized seeds of New Earth templates back to its Original Grid system. The cosmic stargates guide our journey into the New Galactic Universe. On December 21th to 22nd, from [7] to midnight hours the Solstice gateway occurs when the sun “stands still” but this time in "Aquarius" between light and dark. Yes; you all did it, we holding the line in Aquarius This will be another, but much different in feelings, a day of zero point energy, the stillness between our entire past closes and our future count begins. The New Galactic Solstice Energy Solar Frequency will reveals your path home. Everyone will resonate and respond to their own frequency vibration. If you are currently following a path filled with anger, blame and battles waged against evil, this is not heart energy. A war, battle or conflict implies winner and loser, good and bad (Duality) still exists. We call it "unfinished business". You need it to learn how to forgive and forget to be able to move forward. This signifies more shadow work is needed for those with this type of issues to attain heart healing access to the NEW at this end cycle timeline. Ascension is not an easy process.We never said it will be one.It is an opportunity to evolve, finally grow up, forgive and forget by being your own judge, choose evolution, enlightenment and unity consciousness and living light body transformations long and painful process.You were built for this process.It is the TEST between EGO and SPIRIT, Evil and Good.The VEIL has been liftedWhich one did you chooseWhen an old regime system dissolves, a new system begins! Into the ashes of the void, we build the new goal the journey to the 15th Dimension Morphogenetic Matrices out from the Matrix system. A new Universe with Garden of Eden as you call it. The Guardian Alliance (GA) are the earth 3D immense Council Group of beings who reside in a myriad of locations in today''''s Time Matrix. They are a member of the Interdimensional Association of Free Worlds (IAFW) Incarnated AIFW Members consist of Biological below 7D, Etheric (7D-9D) and crystal and diamond Light (10D-15D) beings. Administrators of IAFW & GA are beings of pure immense, meta-math consciousness. Guardians of the Cosmic Matrix. Cosmic Matrix =3D Energy Matrix + Time Matrix. Geomantic Entities the 16G-d and above reside in the Energy Source Matrices. These entities viewed from 3D would appear as geometric shapes made of living light. Join us system busters, living light Warriors, star seeds other Light Bearers, Grid-workers, and Star Beings from all around the world for the Solstice Gateway Amanti Hall and full Stargate Activation. The SHOW is RECORDED for REPLAY. If you would like to know more about what is going on today’s happening of tomorrow’s reality visit us at our transitioning sites and follow. United States of America Department of Homeland Security Org Earth Sphere Federation Terra Light Ascension from “old to new”..... United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization Energy Source Field - Earth Sphere Federation Terra Light Ascension Thank you We love you, Mother ''''God Source'''' loves you, we wish everyone on this planet the best "end of year in these amazing times of end cycle". United States of America Department of Homeland Security Earth Sphere Alliance Emerald Order Alliance Earth Sphere Federation Forces Galactic Council Energy Sound Field Frequency - Earth Sphere Federation Forces Guardian Alliance Security Tasks Force Energy Solar Flash - Earth Sphere Federation Original Council of 1 to 9
回复 544楼 eda2k4 的帖子 中国debt-to-GDP是84%, 美国是124%，差距并没有想象的那么大。今天中国被从A+降到A，其实就是为了趁着关税战争泼脏水，给东大更多压力。 Fitch cited expectations of weakening public finances and a rapidly rising public debt trajectory as key reasons. They pointed to factors such as ongoing economic transition challenges, high fiscal deficits, and the crystallization of contingent liabilities, projecting that China's government debt-to-GDP ratio would increase significantly in the coming years.
别人就算考虑对西班牙的影响，对南极的影响，对火星的影响，也不关您事儿吧？大家是有义务按您规定的具体方向去考虑不成？
您乱骂只能说明您个人素质差而已 - 当然，在爱国青年嘴里大概没按自个儿想的样子爱国就是可骂，那敢情。。。要美国伟大嘛！MAGA！
主要你是二极管，和法轮功，还有“只要是川普说的就是对的” MAGA高度一致。你也别用你那啥在美国就不能说美国差要不就不要在美国待，别现眼了。
他赌的就是小弟们没人敢反抗。
对东大而言，应该是个机遇。不要太在乎一城一地之得失，而应抓住这个机会和更多国家提升非美元的贸易量，比如货币互换，扩大自贸区等
当然考虑对美国的影响，只是美国单挑全世界，那么豪横显然不是我等能考虑的，选择性考虑比如自己熟悉的无可厚非，为啥你要骂，难不成只许你考虑美国的影响，就不许别人考虑其他，好霸道
他n次破产大概也是这么赌过来的，很好，符合他的人设
别的国家出苦力干活生产，米联储只需要印米纸就能换回别人辛苦生产的产品，还付出了环境下代价，这就是米元霸权。你现在跟我说米国用分文不值的米纸换别人的东西是吃亏了？
最近十来年米国的gdp占全球的比例并没有什么变化，所以米国并没有变穷。如果你感觉变穷了，那也只是分配问题而已，需要解决的，是分配问题，比如给巨富加税
东大不敢人民币国际化，谈什么非美元交易。
小林越来越漂亮了
东大已经有相当大的一部份贸易是通过本币结算的。以前不提人民币国际化是因为现有美元体系下，对东大有利。现在占不到便宜了，有啥不敢的？
那希望东大感觉实现人民币自由兑换。我等这一天等了很久了。
你做贸易的？你以为货币互换是和你来换
货币自由兑换难道不是人民币国际化的基础？
川粉就不要出来秀智商底线了。
自己学习下本币互换，很容易查到的
中国卖了大量美债啊。
现在人家不要你的廉价苦力，也不让你霍霍你的环境了。改霍霍自己了。你们倒是反对？ 美债迟早是要还的。
现在懂王就是直接梭哈，跟中国赌国运。你要是经济真的那么强，世界老大位置你拿走，北美共荣圈就是我的退路。赌的就是你生产力过剩，在临界点，全球贸易战会给你一系列连锁反应，导致经济体系崩盘。
只要中国吃不下世界老大的地位，美国这次关税战就是利远大于弊。 懂王千夫所指又如何？他历史使命完成以后，美国换个温和派安抚小弟那不是分分钟刷一堆好评。世界只认实力。
那能有多少规模。这世界没多少国家接受不能自由兑换的货币交易的。
七年前搞这么一出，或许还有点胜算？对手都准备了七八年了，还梭哈个鸟？
你看东大媒体回应就知道了。 哪怕小粉红也很难乐观评估这次关税战。因为是必胜的消耗战，被强行拉入五五开。
中国的债务危机，其实仅次于美国。今天早上Fitch给降到了A级，就是直接打压你。现在就看东大是否真的能我命由我不由天了。
本币互换诱惑力很大的，想想大多数第三世界国家能有多少外汇？
这只是美国与其它国家的关税，离开了美国，中国照样和其它国家做交易。即使中美完全脱钩，这个世界照样运转。对中国的直接影响是钱难赚而已，他们还是应该稍微了解下中国人的韧性。最终这场关税战会促进中国和其它国家的贸易量
美国经济学家、诺贝尔经济学家得主保罗·克鲁格曼 资料图 这位诺奖得主指出，特朗普摆出的所谓“外国对美国征税税率”，这些数据简直荒谬绝伦。以欧盟为例，与美国类似，欧盟的实际平均关税不足3%。然而，在特朗普提供的数据中，欧盟对美国征收的关税达到了39%。 赞助信息
“那么这个39%的数据是从哪里来的呢？”就连克鲁格曼也疑惑不解。他提到，许多人猜测特朗普会把增值税计入关税，尽管增值税根本不属于关税的范畴（欧盟本土企业与美国出口商同样要缴纳），且完全不构成贸易壁垒。但是，即使特朗普算错了，欧盟的增值税税率也在20%左右，所以仍然不可能得到接近39%这一税率数据。 “所以你不得不怀疑，马斯克的邓宁-克鲁格（Dunning-Kruger）效应模型现在是不是正在生成关税数据。”（注：邓宁-克鲁格效应，简称邓克效应或达克效应，亦有人称井蛙现象，是一种认知偏差，指能力欠缺的人有一种虚幻的自我优越感，错误地认为自己比真实情况更加优秀） 克鲁格曼认为，所有人都清楚，既然特朗普能把欧盟关税夸大十多倍，他就永远不会改口。 “我不知道有多少人注意到了，他（特朗普）至今仍然声称我们（美国）‘每年补贴加拿大2000亿美元’。除了声称加拿大的贸易顺差是我们以某种方式补贴加拿大而犯下的错误之外，他还将实际贸易顺差夸大了三倍。很多很多人都指出了这个错误，但特朗普坚持这个观点，就像马斯克死咬着‘社保受益人已死亡数百万人’的说法不放一样。” 克鲁格曼最后提醒，若还有人期待特朗普会悬崖勒马，今天他这场充斥着超高关税税率和对贸易伙伴不实指控的讲话，足以掐灭这些人的最后一丝幻想。 2008年，克鲁格曼获颁诺贝尔经济学奖，以表彰其“对经济活动的贸易模式和区域的分析”。这位经济学家的立场为中间偏左的社会自由主义，认为要对富人课税并封杀诸多避税漏洞，这种立场在2008年次贷危机和民主党上台执政后得到社会较多的回响。对于特朗普在首个执政任期内挑起中美贸易争端，他认为美国是在走向自杀，并直言这是“最烂的贸易战策略”。 当地时间4月2日下午，美国总统特朗普在白宫签署两项关于所谓“对等关税”的行政令，宣布对所有贸易伙伴设立10%的“最低基准关税”，同时对包括中国在内的数十个其他国家和地区在10%基础上加征更高关税。其中，美国对中国征收的“对等关税”税率为34%。 据报道，这是特朗普今年1月上台后，迄今为止宣布的最大规模的新关税政策，向包括盟友在内的全世界祭出关税大棒，美其名曰“阻止他国剥削美国”。 美国有线电视新闻网（CNN）则将此视作二战以来全球贸易最根本转变的标志。 据特朗普公布新政策，中国的“对等关税”税率将达34%，越南的关税将高达46%，泰国关税为36%，印度尼西亚关税为32%，印度关税为26%，日本关税为24%，韩国关税为25%，欧盟国家关税将升至20%。 在所谓“对等关税”之前，特朗普已经多次对全世界发出关税威胁，中方对此已经表明立场。日前，外交部发言人郭嘉昆表示，中方注意到美国的主要贸易伙伴已经纷纷作出回应。贸易战、关税战没有赢家，没有哪个国家的发展繁荣是靠加征关税实现的。 郭嘉昆说，美方的做法违反了世贸组织规则，损害以规则为基础的多边贸易体制和各国人民共同利益，也无益于解决自身问题。
克鲁格曼还没有华人网聪明，还没搞明白关税数字怎么来的
又集权一样好用 又等东大崩盘 语无伦次 全靠wishful thinking 岛上来的？
中国在93年撤销了7个部委，没人提啊。
你觉得制造业是家庭作坊？大街上拉几个人在板凳上一坐就开工？
治大国如烹小鲜，这个小鲜指的是小鱼，好像是说动作不要太猛，不可随意翻动，否则就只剩一堆鱼渣渣了。当然了，漂亮国是条大鱼，随便翻
感觉trump这次全球关税，把中国和其他国家的关系紧密起来了
桌子掀得好！！，最后是大家都不和川普一张桌子吃饭了，他要吃独食，其他人一起在别的桌子吃饭了。
挺认同的，
美国从二战结束如日中天走到这一步，虽然有商人的牟利，政客的推波助澜，但是也不能说所有老百姓都是无辜受害者，美国的消费观念也是不可长期维系的。
这一切的转变既不是一天两天造就，也不是一届政府能够扭转的，但是的确需要所有人勒紧腰带才能一步步扭转局势。过去20-30年透支的都需要一点点清算归还。
暂时的巨痛不可避免，未来恢复期间的艰辛也可期。能不能MAGA不知道，但是如果继续做鸵鸟，那真是没有回头路了
一年后如果政策没有变，再来看吧
美股过去10年的涨幅和实际经济成长也挂不上钩，这一点跌幅只是洒洒水
你的思路有点意思。问个问题，关税引起通货膨胀，fed还怎么降息啊？
现在东升西降有可能提前实现。
全世界把美国排除在外即可。
我天，你们是不是不知道关税是叠加的？算上之前给中国的关税，叠加后的比例是超过其他东南亚国家的。现在国内外贸企业一片哀嚎，这层楼居然还在赢赢赢。
黄金时代不是那么容易就进去的，每个灵魂都要经历各种严峻的考验。
贴一个脸书的帖子， 帖子日期是2023年12月8日 United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization
https://fb.watch/yKxuJoQ9AY/
脸书上的简介： United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization： After 2021 exited 3D systems transitioned into Higher Dimensions Galactic System with guidance & Policy objectives to guide the activities, relationships between countries on Earth & Galactic Stars.
帖子如下:
USADHS & ''''human collective'''' last ''''Transition'''' from old to new was on September 30, 2022 - December 22, 2022 with a granted 190 days extension for the [%], End of Faith which expired on June 30th of this year. Since then, the FREE WILL is in full effect and the Law of One. Now as we move forward our last transition on December 22, 2024 (for the sleepwalking ones who (Grand Awakening gone wrong), missed the still Quantum loop shift to Quantum Leap is still known as 2023). Since February of 2012 we’ve been experiencing two parallel timelines, the Old Earth Timeline and the New Earth Timeline. The timeline bifurcation occurred on December 12, 2012. In numerology 2012 was a ‘12th’ year, it was a rare 12:12:12 Gateway. The Quantum Field displays a mystical array of parallel outcomes, flashing as moving holographic mirrors of potential timelines. Within weeks of the 12:12:12=9 Ascension Timeline activation begun, also we completed the initiation of activation of the 12 Amanti Stargate as Star news began to spread of a coronavirus pandemic. Since the 12/12/2012 (12) gateway, there has been an unraveling of all things Atlantean''''s, Terrans etc.... The Time of Reckoning has arrived! After thousands of years, the Atlantean''''s trauma has surfaced in the human collective. All souls with a past connection be it physical or non physical during the Orion Extraterrestrial’s wars and Fall of Atlantis, being triggered to ‘remember’. With all trauma, we are presented with a choice-point. Do you integrate the ‘life lesson’ and liberate ourselves from the buried trauma? Or do you perpetuate another cycle of the very trauma lodged in your body, heart and mind by ignoring, denying, deflecting, dissociating, blaming and demonizing others for your trauma? There''''s no more extensions to accomplish this. “This choice point was a threshold to evolution or devolution”. Back in 12/12/2019, as the Prepared Covid virus began to spread it''''s sound around the world, humanity was presented with a profound choice point, an evolutionary leap into a new timeline as Quantum loop continued side by side simultaneously. From that setpoint on 12/12/2019, two very different corridors began to diverge for human souls to choose from. 1). DARK: The old timeline was dominated by ego, service to self, the ongoing Orion battle zone of opposing forces, waging violence on each other for control, resources and power. AND 2). Living LIGHT: The new timeline was heart-centered, pulsing in unity consciousness, a collaborative, cooperative experience of mutual benefit, joy and prosperity. For all who spent years facing, healing and transmuting ego shadow, victim programming and trauma triggers, the heart centered past one year timeline was calling you home. Did you make it? As the New Earth Timeline rose in strength and statured during the pandemic, we simultaneously cleared lifetimes of past earthly history and anchored to our new home base. The heart healing supplied what we needed to adjust to our new timeline. As you all levels of humans, Star-seed Souls, Diamonds and Crystalians we are now in 2024 entering 2025 (to calendar time), planting our final diamond/crystalized seeds of New Earth templates back to its Original Grid system. The cosmic stargates guide our journey into the New Galactic Universe. On December 21th to 22nd, from [7] to midnight hours the Solstice gateway occurs when the sun “stands still” but this time in "Aquarius" between light and dark. Yes; you all did it, we holding the line in Aquarius This will be another, but much different in feelings, a day of zero point energy, the stillness between our entire past closes and our future count begins. The New Galactic Solstice Energy Solar Frequency will reveals your path home. Everyone will resonate and respond to their own frequency vibration. If you are currently following a path filled with anger, blame and battles waged against evil, this is not heart energy. A war, battle or conflict implies winner and loser, good and bad (Duality) still exists. We call it "unfinished business". You need it to learn how to forgive and forget to be able to move forward. This signifies more shadow work is needed for those with this type of issues to attain heart healing access to the NEW at this end cycle timeline. Ascension is not an easy process. We never said it will be one. It is an opportunity to evolve, finally grow up, forgive and forget by being your own judge, choose evolution, enlightenment and unity consciousness and living light body transformations long and painful process. You were built for this process. It is the TEST between EGO and SPIRIT, Evil and Good. The VEIL has been lifted Which one did you choose When an old regime system dissolves, a new system begins! Into the ashes of the void, we build the new goal the journey to the 15th Dimension Morphogenetic Matrices out from the Matrix system. A new Universe with Garden of Eden as you call it. The Guardian Alliance (GA) are the earth 3D immense Council Group of beings who reside in a myriad of locations in today''''s Time Matrix. They are a member of the Interdimensional Association of Free Worlds (IAFW) Incarnated AIFW Members consist of Biological below 7D, Etheric (7D-9D) and crystal and diamond Light (10D-15D) beings. Administrators of IAFW & GA are beings of pure immense, meta-math consciousness. Guardians of the Cosmic Matrix. Cosmic Matrix =3D Energy Matrix + Time Matrix. Geomantic Entities the 16G-d and above reside in the Energy Source Matrices. These entities viewed from 3D would appear as geometric shapes made of living light. Join us system busters, living light Warriors, star seeds other Light Bearers, Grid-workers, and Star Beings from all around the world for the Solstice Gateway Amanti Hall and full Stargate Activation. The SHOW is RECORDED for REPLAY. If you would like to know more about what is going on today’s happening of tomorrow’s reality visit us at our transitioning sites and follow. United States of America Department of Homeland Security Org Earth Sphere Federation Terra Light Ascension from “old to new”..... United States of America Department of Homeland Security Organization Energy Source Field - Earth Sphere Federation Terra Light Ascension Thank you We love you, Mother ''''God Source'''' loves you, we wish everyone on this planet the best "end of year in these amazing times of end cycle". United States of America Department of Homeland Security Earth Sphere Alliance Emerald Order Alliance Earth Sphere Federation Forces Galactic Council Energy Sound Field Frequency - Earth Sphere Federation Forces Guardian Alliance Security Tasks Force Energy Solar Flash - Earth Sphere Federation Original Council of 1 to 9
各种看起来像是chaos， 其实不过是地球灵魂考试的考题。It is the TEST between EGO and SPIRIT, Evil and Good.
有啥天天天的? 中共的底线思维是中美完全脱钩，多年来一直在做准备。现在美国同时与全球开战，对中国来说当然是好事
Covid以后，外贸圈天天都在哀嚎，但不妨碍绝大部分都在闷声发大财。我有两个朋友，天天转发这些哀嚎文章，却天天忙得不行，买房换车到处吃喝玩乐
五年以后有可能，懂王雷厉风行，提前掀桌子，在东大完成出口转内销之前梭哈，赌东大本来就摇摇欲坠的经济，能触发连锁反应。
赌大赢大，输了就退缩北美共荣圈，划江而治，让出老大位置。在这个时间点上，全球经济体系还真的离不开美国，至少会跪下一片小弟。
谈不上远远超，和越南差不多，越南是东南亚中唯一有希望接过中国产业链的，现在被一锅端了
啊？送委内瑞拉？感情你连人送哪里都不知道啊？
今天降级是因为债务危机？人fitch说了原因啊
中国debt-to-GDP是84%, 美国是124%，差距并没有想象的那么大。今天中国被从A+降到A，其实就是为了趁着关税战争泼脏水，给东大更多压力。
Fitch cited expectations of weakening public finances and a rapidly rising public debt trajectory as key reasons. They pointed to factors such as ongoing economic transition challenges, high fiscal deficits, and the crystallization of contingent liabilities, projecting that China's government debt-to-GDP ratio would increase significantly in the coming years.
萨尔瓦多，打错了。
可惜你不是桌上的玩家，你就是那张桌子。懂吧？
但是钢铁铝和汽车作为特殊商品，加拿大没能逃过25%税 一说是如果美国部件大于50%不征税
前天美国参议院以51-48票批准终止川普对加拿大进口商品征收新关税的法案 但是众议院不会批准
开创闭环赢学和达利特领班的真是天才🤣 加拿大很多人都开始抵制买美国产品尤其是红州商品了
谁给美国的自信，输了还可以退缩北美？
看着吧，美国可没有大统一这种文化，人种又复杂。
输了好一点的就是亡国，四分五裂。 差的就会被分家清算这几百年的恶习。
按我非常邪恶的心态。反正白人杀人不咋眼。东大赢了，就要为印第安人拿回这片土地。 也来次种族灭绝。
如果中国没武装力量，现在也是分分钟清朝再现。
这也太夸张了。好歹美国也有几颗原子弹吧，还能让人进来种族灭绝？
以为你说大跌，看仔细发现是啥意思。基本没法撼动，感觉这两天中国会反制，比如周日出新闻。.
感觉中日韩要有经贸上的合作了
你再等等看
hitmantb同学总有一种输赢决生死的幻觉或者臆想 东大当年吃不饱都没死掉，什么鬼连锁反应，不知道哪里来的理论基础？ 西大赢了又是指什么？制造业回来就赢了？ 物价高企，污染加重，高等教育衰败，民粹当道，科学家遁走欧亚，算赢吗？
事实可能是西大输赢族群问题都已经只会变严重，加州德州搞独立不是没有可能。
黄川充满了莫名其妙的幻觉，不知道什么原因
maga民粹道路是没有民族凝聚力的，相反东大越是民族存亡越是众志成城，这是血液里的。 这也是中国知识分子的家国观和西方迥异的地方。 以前西方文明是标杆，以此觉得东大知识分子的家国观是落后的。 2024之后西大自毁灯塔，国际关系丛林法则回归，资源论和族群延续本能走强，知识分子家国观将是东大的加持项。 西大将是相反，自己脑补吧
怎么可能。。这三家都是出口导向的，而且另外两家都已经在政治和军事上彻底摊牌倒向米国了，经济上也没啥互补的。
哎，可惜弯弯看不懂。
打个比方而已.
不过往深了说，美国要分裂了，核武器就会慢慢成废铁。 或科技慢慢落后，新的断层武器或者防御系统出现；就降维打击，核武器可能就没那么有用了。
东方包括整个儒家文化圈，讲究集体（族群）精神，有国才有家，个人人权和自由从之，这些和威权治理是更契合的。 西方现代文明（2024前）更加注重个人权利和自由，限制政府和国家对个人权力的干涉， 西大宪法十几个修正案基本就是在搞怎么让个人更爽。
西大华裔里面一部分人是因为痛恨东方家国观才来西方的，比如flg、民运、台独； 一部分只是追求更好的生活，但也适应和enjoy西方文明里的个人自由，比如广大的留学生等。
文化界很值得研究，也很吊诡的现象是， 前一部分那些痛恨东方家国观的人，来了西方反而仇视现代文明里自由派的精神，恨不得西方用最威权最独裁的方式治理国家，或者处理国际关系。
后一部分人面临价值观的崩塌，还在艰难的适应。 真诚希望我的这些同类早日找到希望。