还有一种叫POTS 也是HPV疫苗后遗症，楼主可以看一下 Postural tachycardia syndrome (PoTS) is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded.
Did they monitor the heart beat? wear a iwatch to monitor the heart beat, especially when stand up. Right now you can do , 1.get enough fluid to flush out the system. this is a good one with no sugar in it: propel , give him this instead of water, 补充电解质， also lemon water is good detox , drink lemon water with a straw. 2 hawthorn extract for the check pain, 就是山楂，but the extract is a condensed version with exact amount of hawthorn . Just go to local stores to get what ever brand you can get to take it 3 D-hist junior version :Ortho Molecular Natural D-Hist is the exact name, 4.如果可以的话可以按道Heart 7, 就是手腕外三指的地方，双手各2-3分钟。 也可以用TENS 7000 stimulator, pad on both sides, turn the output to the minimum the kids can tolerate for up to 20 minutes a time, once a day is enough, you can get this in Amazon. The Dr. Groysman''''s website has a section talking about this. Also amazon sells a wrist band with a bottom for car sick, it helps nausea, can put on both wrist. like this one, the buttom need be on heart7 https://www.amazon.com/LYJEE-Sickness-Wristbands-Pregnant-Bracelets/dp/B0DSW8578S/ref=sr_1_6?crid=9XT1L9WUS3JE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2RGki_MDyfyXU65J_RmSFfz68JLKkiqZwC8gVn4tjELO6j0fhVxSoZHbrYrd2LSgMiawI_z-q5uFh4kvSHgv8X-xSkQFmJJzv3hGedNsPMjl4DnIqNNP8s_GTHLQMvJ4J8prjmyIblgzoCHzKN2jHttJ6BXIbCK81XBka7WlabZBv5s0xfuRT-9eyITYNvzvNR2cqp_mLjHGrbchmtks4HrBGuzpMMBkrR-STrWW5El4nPo-YKIOT5uirVk3nRDZ4jfmol3sYDYzpq5jBqNG4T-vFzkn7T--H-o_ZgPCDWDKaf6c73XJ69CwuyhL_qDQqakbQslL0yBJRFdpVL3Vc_VjNTz1-CmYl2iJlnSH43KiGBua-tA-m85QB29-OoAxEo-umvzOHGJLOZQ11hqiQ5lva3myFf4Wo7B4vAIxpdB-C89Ao-24Ba9JJVI6_Di0.vMNjU5mOxeJg-JXE9iD8A1Ux1wYci8yAlOGoEAh490c&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick&qid=1743254125&sprefix=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-6&th=1 5 also get something to help the liver and kidney to help detox, lemon water is good one, also cranberry juice for kidney, Milk Thistle extract for liver, no limit on how much he can take, no side effects. 6. to calm down the nerve, use this two : B2 or B complex + magnesium l-threonate(or called neural mag) 7also can take a pintch of natural salt, not the table salt but pink salt or redmond, celtic salt under the tong till resolve, do it first thing in the morning, then 2-3 times a day, this also helps calm down the nerve and helps balance the fluid in system. If he can find a place for IV, he can do high dose vitamin C + glutathione, it is around $400 a session, normally needs a doctor or nurse prescription, kids normally can get up to 10g vitamin C with saline water, at the end of the session, they will push in the glutathione , it takes up to 6 sessions to see effects. Glutathione is a major detox agent in the body. Also need watch him to keep pee and poop every day to get the toxins out of the body, with anything can help. blessings !
ncshopper 发表于 2025-03-27 16:08 求助万能的华人上见多识广的xdjm们: 儿子的同学(男孩，13岁)在三周之前打了HPV第二针疫苗两个小时后突然开始有chest pain (在sternum）, dizziness, nausea 和headache，后来有tachycardia(心动过速)的现象。在我们当地的医院住院了两个星期后，医生也查不出病因，据他妈妈说就是all tests return good so we don''''t know what is happening with his chest. 上星期医生让他出院在家观察，结果今天他妈妈给我发消息说他的chest pain更加严重了，而且有新的症状(感觉不到下肢)。现在每次站起来恶心的感觉剧烈增加，他现在几乎已经不能独自行走了。 这个同学家也是亚洲移民，两年前才从另一个州搬到我们这个城市，认识的人也不多。我们知道了也很替他们难过，但也帮不上什么忙。所以想上网请教一下大家有没有见过类似病例，以及有没有好的医院医生可以推荐 (晚上的最新消息是已经转到我们州一个大的儿童医院了)。 请不要引用，谢谢大家！ p.s. 发这个贴的目的不是想引起大家对打疫苗的恐慌，而是想寻求一些信息，希望能为他们家尽到一点绵薄之力。另外，之前有人问怎么证明是疫苗引起的，这个医生也说没法直接证明，只是猜想。他们的重点不在于追究是谁的/什么的责任，只想让孩子能快点恢复健康，不要留下后遗症。
peekston 发表于 2025-03-29 09:04 Did they monitor the heart beat? wear a iwatch to monitor the heart beat, especially when stand up. Right now you can do , 1.get enough fluid to flush out the system. this is a good one with no sugar in it: propel , give him this instead of water, 补充电解质， also lemon water is good detox , drink lemon water with a straw. 2 hawthorn extract for the check pain, 就是山楂，but the extract is a condensed version with exact amount of hawthorn . Just go to local stores to get what ever brand you can get to take it 3 D-hist junior version :Ortho Molecular Natural D-Hist is the exact name, 4.如果可以的话可以按道Heart 7, 就是手腕外三指的地方，双手各2-3分钟。 也可以用TENS 7000 stimulator, pad on both sides, turn the output to the minimum the kids can tolerate for up to 20 minutes a time, once a day is enough, you can get this in Amazon. The Dr. Groysman''''s website has a section talking about this. Also amazon sells a wrist band with a bottom for car sick, it helps nausea, can put on both wrist. like this one, the buttom need be on heart7 https://www.amazon.com/LYJEE-Sickness-Wristbands-Pregnant-Bracelets/dp/B0DSW8578S/ref=sr_1_6?crid=9XT1L9WUS3JE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2RGki_MDyfyXU65J_RmSFfz68JLKkiqZwC8gVn4tjELO6j0fhVxSoZHbrYrd2LSgMiawI_z-q5uFh4kvSHgv8X-xSkQFmJJzv3hGedNsPMjl4DnIqNNP8s_GTHLQMvJ4J8prjmyIblgzoCHzKN2jHttJ6BXIbCK81XBka7WlabZBv5s0xfuRT-9eyITYNvzvNR2cqp_mLjHGrbchmtks4HrBGuzpMMBkrR-STrWW5El4nPo-YKIOT5uirVk3nRDZ4jfmol3sYDYzpq5jBqNG4T-vFzkn7T--H-o_ZgPCDWDKaf6c73XJ69CwuyhL_qDQqakbQslL0yBJRFdpVL3Vc_VjNTz1-CmYl2iJlnSH43KiGBua-tA-m85QB29-OoAxEo-umvzOHGJLOZQ11hqiQ5lva3myFf4Wo7B4vAIxpdB-C89Ao-24Ba9JJVI6_Di0.vMNjU5mOxeJg-JXE9iD8A1Ux1wYci8yAlOGoEAh490c&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick&qid=1743254125&sprefix=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-6&th=1 5 also get something to help the liver and kidney to help detox, lemon water is good one, also cranberry juice for kidney, Milk Thistle extract for liver, no limit on how much he can take, no side effects. 6. to calm down the nerve, use this two : B2 or B complex + magnesium l-threonate(or called neural mag) 7also can take a pintch of natural salt, not the table salt but pink salt or redmond, celtic salt under the tong till resolve, do it first thing in the morning, then 2-3 times a day, this also helps calm down the nerve and helps balance the fluid in system. If he can find a place for IV, he can do high dose vitamin C + glutathione, it is around $400 a session, normally needs a doctor or nurse prescription, kids normally can get up to 10g vitamin C with saline water, at the end of the session, they will push in the glutathione , it takes up to 6 sessions to see effects. Glutathione is a major detox agent in the body. Also need watch him to keep pee and poop every day to get the toxins out of the body, with anything can help. blessings !
there is also this one very good for calming down the vagus nerve https://www.dolphinmps.com/product/dolphin-neurostim-professional-single-kit-vagal-stim-kit/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtJ6_BhDWARIsAGanmKdQE4nq1RhMbzQNxO0HF2JLYV-3GMBrAQLjljjWI2ih3rJ1nb1J6LYaAmbEEALw_wcB
peekston 发表于 2025-03-29 09:04 Did they monitor the heart beat? wear a iwatch to monitor the heart beat, especially when stand up. Right now you can do , 1.get enough fluid to flush out the system. this is a good one with no sugar in it: propel , give him this instead of water, 补充电解质， also lemon water is good detox , drink lemon water with a straw. 2 hawthorn extract for the check pain, 就是山楂，but the extract is a condensed version with exact amount of hawthorn . Just go to local stores to get what ever brand you can get to take it 3 D-hist junior version :Ortho Molecular Natural D-Hist is the exact name, 4.如果可以的话可以按道Heart 7, 就是手腕外三指的地方，双手各2-3分钟。 也可以用TENS 7000 stimulator, pad on both sides, turn the output to the minimum the kids can tolerate for up to 20 minutes a time, once a day is enough, you can get this in Amazon. The Dr. Groysman''''s website has a section talking about this. Also amazon sells a wrist band with a bottom for car sick, it helps nausea, can put on both wrist. like this one, the buttom need be on heart7 https://www.amazon.com/LYJEE-Sickness-Wristbands-Pregnant-Bracelets/dp/B0DSW8578S/ref=sr_1_6?crid=9XT1L9WUS3JE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2RGki_MDyfyXU65J_RmSFfz68JLKkiqZwC8gVn4tjELO6j0fhVxSoZHbrYrd2LSgMiawI_z-q5uFh4kvSHgv8X-xSkQFmJJzv3hGedNsPMjl4DnIqNNP8s_GTHLQMvJ4J8prjmyIblgzoCHzKN2jHttJ6BXIbCK81XBka7WlabZBv5s0xfuRT-9eyITYNvzvNR2cqp_mLjHGrbchmtks4HrBGuzpMMBkrR-STrWW5El4nPo-YKIOT5uirVk3nRDZ4jfmol3sYDYzpq5jBqNG4T-vFzkn7T--H-o_ZgPCDWDKaf6c73XJ69CwuyhL_qDQqakbQslL0yBJRFdpVL3Vc_VjNTz1-CmYl2iJlnSH43KiGBua-tA-m85QB29-OoAxEo-umvzOHGJLOZQ11hqiQ5lva3myFf4Wo7B4vAIxpdB-C89Ao-24Ba9JJVI6_Di0.vMNjU5mOxeJg-JXE9iD8A1Ux1wYci8yAlOGoEAh490c&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick&qid=1743254125&sprefix=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-6&th=1 5 also get something to help the liver and kidney to help detox, lemon water is good one, also cranberry juice for kidney, Milk Thistle extract for liver, no limit on how much he can take, no side effects. 6. to calm down the nerve, use this two : B2 or B complex + magnesium l-threonate(or called neural mag) 7also can take a pintch of natural salt, not the table salt but pink salt or redmond, celtic salt under the tong till resolve, do it first thing in the morning, then 2-3 times a day, this also helps calm down the nerve and helps balance the fluid in system. If he can find a place for IV, he can do high dose vitamin C + glutathione, it is around $400 a session, normally needs a doctor or nurse prescription, kids normally can get up to 10g vitamin C with saline water, at the end of the session, they will push in the glutathione , it takes up to 6 sessions to see effects. Glutathione is a major detox agent in the body. Also need watch him to keep pee and poop every day to get the toxins out of the body, with anything can help. blessings !
ncshopper 发表于 2025-03-27 16:08 求助万能的华人上见多识广的xdjm们: 儿子的同学(男孩，13岁)在三周之前打了HPV第二针疫苗两个小时后突然开始有chest pain (在sternum）, dizziness, nausea 和headache，后来有tachycardia(心动过速)的现象。在我们当地的医院住院了两个星期后，医生也查不出病因，据他妈妈说就是all tests return good so we don''''t know what is happening with his chest. 上星期医生让他出院在家观察，结果今天他妈妈给我发消息说他的chest pain更加严重了，而且有新的症状(感觉不到下肢)。现在每次站起来恶心的感觉剧烈增加，他现在几乎已经不能独自行走了。 这个同学家也是亚洲移民，两年前才从另一个州搬到我们这个城市，认识的人也不多。我们知道了也很替他们难过，但也帮不上什么忙。所以想上网请教一下大家有没有见过类似病例，以及有没有好的医院医生可以推荐 (晚上的最新消息是已经转到我们州一个大的儿童医院了)。 请不要引用，谢谢大家！ p.s. 发这个贴的目的不是想引起大家对打疫苗的恐慌，而是想寻求一些信息，希望能为他们家尽到一点绵薄之力。另外，之前有人问怎么证明是疫苗引起的，这个医生也说没法直接证明，只是猜想。他们的重点不在于追究是谁的/什么的责任，只想让孩子能快点恢复健康，不要留下后遗症。
Postural tachycardia syndrome (PoTS) is when your heart rate increases very quickly after getting up from sitting or lying down, often making you feel dizzy or lightheaded.
日本人打HPV只有0.3%？这么低！ 日本人对性的态度非常开放，性不限制与夫妻之间，一个人会有多个性伴侣， 这说明HPV疫苗没啥实际作用啊！
Did they monitor the heart beat? wear a iwatch to monitor the heart beat, especially when stand up. Right now you can do , 1.get enough fluid to flush out the system. this is a good one with no sugar in it: propel , give him this instead of water, 补充电解质， also lemon water is good detox , drink lemon water with a straw. 2 hawthorn extract for the check pain, 就是山楂，but the extract is a condensed version with exact amount of hawthorn . Just go to local stores to get what ever brand you can get to take it 3 D-hist junior version :Ortho Molecular Natural D-Hist is the exact name, 4.如果可以的话可以按道Heart 7, 就是手腕外三指的地方，双手各2-3分钟。 也可以用TENS 7000 stimulator, pad on both sides, turn the output to the minimum the kids can tolerate for up to 20 minutes a time, once a day is enough, you can get this in Amazon. The Dr. Groysman''''s website has a section talking about this. Also amazon sells a wrist band with a bottom for car sick, it helps nausea, can put on both wrist. like this one, the buttom need be on heart7 https://www.amazon.com/LYJEE-Sickness-Wristbands-Pregnant-Bracelets/dp/B0DSW8578S/ref=sr_1_6?crid=9XT1L9WUS3JE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2RGki_MDyfyXU65J_RmSFfz68JLKkiqZwC8gVn4tjELO6j0fhVxSoZHbrYrd2LSgMiawI_z-q5uFh4kvSHgv8X-xSkQFmJJzv3hGedNsPMjl4DnIqNNP8s_GTHLQMvJ4J8prjmyIblgzoCHzKN2jHttJ6BXIbCK81XBka7WlabZBv5s0xfuRT-9eyITYNvzvNR2cqp_mLjHGrbchmtks4HrBGuzpMMBkrR-STrWW5El4nPo-YKIOT5uirVk3nRDZ4jfmol3sYDYzpq5jBqNG4T-vFzkn7T--H-o_ZgPCDWDKaf6c73XJ69CwuyhL_qDQqakbQslL0yBJRFdpVL3Vc_VjNTz1-CmYl2iJlnSH43KiGBua-tA-m85QB29-OoAxEo-umvzOHGJLOZQ11hqiQ5lva3myFf4Wo7B4vAIxpdB-C89Ao-24Ba9JJVI6_Di0.vMNjU5mOxeJg-JXE9iD8A1Ux1wYci8yAlOGoEAh490c&dib_tag=se&keywords=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick&qid=1743254125&sprefix=wrist%2Bbutton%2Bfor%2Bcar%2Bsick%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-6&th=1 5 also get something to help the liver and kidney to help detox, lemon water is good one, also cranberry juice for kidney, Milk Thistle extract for liver, no limit on how much he can take, no side effects. 6. to calm down the nerve, use this two : B2 or B complex + magnesium l-threonate(or called neural mag) 7also can take a pintch of natural salt, not the table salt but pink salt or redmond, celtic salt under the tong till resolve, do it first thing in the morning, then 2-3 times a day, this also helps calm down the nerve and helps balance the fluid in system.
If he can find a place for IV, he can do high dose vitamin C + glutathione, it is around $400 a session, normally needs a doctor or nurse prescription, kids normally can get up to 10g vitamin C with saline water, at the end of the session, they will push in the glutathione , it takes up to 6 sessions to see effects. Glutathione is a major detox agent in the body.
Also need watch him to keep pee and poop every day to get the toxins out of the body, with anything can help.
blessings !
mark
there is also this one very good for calming down the vagus nerve https://www.dolphinmps.com/product/dolphin-neurostim-professional-single-kit-vagal-stim-kit/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtJ6_BhDWARIsAGanmKdQE4nq1RhMbzQNxO0HF2JLYV-3GMBrAQLjljjWI2ih3rJ1nb1J6LYaAmbEEALw_wcB
谢谢mm一直耐心的给我提供那么详细的信息！我一点点整理好，都会发给孩子妈妈的，再次感谢！
所以说女生打是保护自己 男孩子真的没啥必要打了 大家都说打了保护伴侣 但是这风险也有点大吧
最好的保护自己应该是只有一个性伴侣，对方也是，执子之手与子偕老。
更新1 ChatGPT需要你反馈： 这个情况听起来非常严重，孩子已经出现了胸痛加剧、下肢感觉丧失、几乎无法行走等症状。为了更全面地协助你和你的朋友，请问你能提供以下几点信息吗？ 你朋友的孩子是在什么国家或地区接受治疗的？这有助于了解当地的医疗资源。 HPV疫苗的品牌或名称是哪个？（如Gardasil 9等） 是否有任何已知的基础疾病或过敏史？包括心脏病、神经系统疾病、自主神经系统异常等？ 是否进行过如下检查，并是否有结果？ 心电图（ECG） 血液检查（炎症标志物、电解质、激素等） 脑部或脊髓影像（MRI/CT） 自主神经系统功能测试（如倾斜试验） 是否有神经内科或心脏科专家参与评估？ 请尽量补充这些信息，我会立刻帮你深入分析可能的问题和可行的解决路径。
我家医生也是一直推荐，几年了，我一直拖着，之前版上讨论过就决定不打，现在更加不要打了
怕也可以不打第二针，第一针打下去估计已经有些防护作用了
谢谢你mm! ChatGPT的付费版也是个好思路，因为涉及到的信息比较多，另外可能一来一回还需要补充信息，我把这个途径告诉她，让她自己去尝试一下。
男的也会得hpv 相关的鼻咽癌，很多的。
不用谢，Plus用户每月有10次Deep Research额度，如果她不够用了可以再找我。
谢谢好心的mm!
这么严重的情况， 父母不赶紧911送急诊，先咨询你？ 华人帖子越来越drama！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！
他已经因为chest pain等症状去过两次ER了。第一次在local的ER，住了两个星期的医院。第二次去了我们这里最好的儿童医院的ER, 医生什么都没查出来，没让他们住院。
胸疼是因为剧烈的免疫反应。其他症状是全身性免疫炎症引起了神经炎症，而且看你描述在进行性加重。再强调一次，胸疼并不是大问题，你以胸疼主诉，却检查不出心脏和呼吸系统的问题，ER 完全不会当回事！！！！ 以进行性的神经系统症状进行主诉：呕吐，眩晕，不能站立，感受不到肢体！！！
如果有任何办法，赶快找 neurology specialist。 这个拖不得， 早一天看损失小一点。
如果美国速度慢，花钱马上找国内的专家网上会诊。有一说一，美国现在大部分医院比起国内的区域中心三甲，水平差的不可以道里计。
顺带说 这么小的几率也碰上了……真的是不知道该怎么安慰
不要主申诉症状 chest pain ！ 重要的事情再说一遍。
美国的辣鸡医疗体系，医生必须follow protocol, 你主诉胸疼 他就跟你往心脏，肺部两大器官一查，没有问题，肯定没有问题，因为根本不是这两个器官的问题。不好意思，请回家。