风轻雨 发表于 2025-02-24 19:55 美国对中国实施的贸易制裁似乎产生了完全相反的效果，中国似乎找到了应对巨大挑战的方法，成功战胜了竞争地区。在半导体领域，一项由专家组成的调查显示，韩国在所有芯片制造类别中实际上落后于中国，这表明韩国需要追求更先进的制造工艺。 与三年前的情况相比，韩国在人工智能半导体方面也落后于中国，显示出形势的变化。根据《韩国时报》的报道，由韩国科技评价与规划研究院（Korea Institute of S&T Evaluation and Planning）进行的调查显示，包括39位本地专家在内的评估结果表明，韩国在高强度和抗性存储技术方面排名第二。以100%的基准为标准，韩国得分为90.9%，落后于中国的94.1%。 The trade sanctions enforced by the U.S. on China appear to have the completely opposite effect as the country seemingly finds ways to defy goliath-sized odds and gain victory against competing regions. On the topic of semiconductors, a survey that comprised of experts revealed that South Korea is actually trailing behind China in all categories of chip-making, signaling the need to pursue more advanced manufacturing processes. South Korea was also behind China when comparing AI semiconductors, showing a shift in the tide from three years ago In the previous assessments, it was revealed that China struggled against South Korea, but a lot can transpire in a couple of years. As reported by The Korea Times, a survey conducted by the Korea Institute of S&T Evaluation and Planning that included 39 local experts ranked their country second in high-intensity and resistance-based memory technology. With the benchmark set at 100 percent, South Korea obtained a score of 90.9 percent, trailing behind China, with a score of 94.1 percent. https://wccftech.com/china-has-surpassed-south-korean-in-all-semiconductor-technologies-claims-survey/
Q Chinese Institutes make a Breakthrough Meanwhile, Shanghai Micro Electronics Equipment (SMEE) filed a patent in 2023 for EUV radiation generators, signaling progress toward domestic lithography equipment. However, SMEE lags behind global leaders like ASML, as it cannot yet mass-produce machines for chips below 28 nm. 20 Jan 2025 China's Semiconductor Push: From EUV Breakthroughs to ... Gizmochina https://www.gizmochina.com/2025/01/20/china-advances-in-euv-lithography-sidestepping-us-chip-sanctions/
China chipmaking stocks surge on EUV lithography tech ... Investing.com Australia https://au.investing.com › news › stock-market-news 21 Jan 2025 — Chinese chipmaking stocks, especially those in the foundry sector, rose sharply on Tuesday as media reports showed progress in domestic lithography technology.
How China's Game-Changing EUV Breakthrough is a ... techovedas https://techovedas.com/how-chinas-game-changing-euv-breakthrough-is-a-challenge-to-asml-dominance/ 24 Jan 2025 — China has taken a major stride in semiconductor manufacturing by developing innovative extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography technology.
Can China make a 28nm lithography machine? China is poised to make a significant stride in its chipmaking capabilities, with the production of 28nm lithography equipment scheduled for next month, a development that has taken many analysts by surprise given the current geopolitical climate and technological barriers. 2 Dec 2024 China will produce 28nm Lithography equipment next month Fudzilla.com https://www.fudzilla.com › news › 60174-china-will-pr... UQ
回复 118楼 EvenOdd 的帖子 Q ASML’s Laser-Produced Plasma (LPP) Method This method is like using a powerful flashlight to shine on a mirror ball coated with tiny droplets of water. The flashlight (a high-energy laser) hits the droplets (liquid tin), turning them into a glowing mist (plasma). This glowing mist scatters light (EUV) all over the room. However, the flashlight needs to be incredibly powerful, and the process involves a lot of intricate machinery, like advanced circuits (FPGA chips), to ensure everything happens precisely. This makes it highly effective but also very complex and expensive. Zhao’s Laser-Induced Discharge Plasma (LDP) Method Now imagine instead of a flashlight, you use a simple spark between two wires to create light. First, a small vapor cloud (tin) is released between the wires. Then, a spark (high voltage) is applied, turning the vapor into a glowing cloud (plasma) that lights up the room (produces EUV light). This method directly converts electricity into light, making it simpler and more energy-efficient. However, it’s like trying to adjust the timing of the spark and the amount of vapor perfectly—it’s tricky to get just right. Additionally, some worry that this spark-based method might not be bright enough to light up a very large room (power output limitations). ComparisonLPP (Flashlight on droplets): Complex, powerful, and precise but expensive and energy-intensive. LDP (Spark in a vapor cloud): Simpler, cheaper, and more energy-efficient but technically challenging to optimize and potentially limited in brightness. Since 2008, Zhao’s team has been refining the “spark method,” and their recent award suggests they’ve made notable advancements. However, challenges like fine-tuning the spark timing and ensuring sufficient brightness remain critical hurdles. UQ
Q ASML still has no licence to ship newest machines to China Reuters https://www.reuters.com › technology › asml-still-has-n... 19 Jan 2022 — "I am not saying it cannot be done, because I know the laws of physics are the same in China as they are here," he said. "Never say never. They will certainly try." UQ
以前是大家合作，中国人懒得自己搞了，都是要投入成本的，双方合作共赢。现在是你发神经封锁我，那不要怪中国人自己搞罗。
本来大家合作是全球最优解，
美国非要搞制裁搞禁运拼个你死我活，那就各显神通呗。
4大文明古国只有中国的文化延绵不断，真当我们华人吃素的
这一系列制裁打压，教育了中国人：靠谁都不如靠自己。
烏克蘭那是保衛自己的國家領土 你個北韓送士兵去當砲灰是怎麼回事? 你個剩上送錢去撒幣誘使怎麼回事
中共 已經到了 左派政團發展的下坡後段了
7nm 為啥做不下去了 沒有 EUV 重複曝光幾百次也沒用 我有開一門課專門教這個的 不過 你們千萬別讓 剩上 知道啊 我不擋人財路的
看來一堆小粉紅也是沒有念過 科學革命的結構 唉
中國人 內鬥內行 外鬥外行
別人針對你你就該想想你哪邊出了問題
本來大家合作是最憂解 資本家給工資 抽走剩餘價值 這個大家也熟 問題是你個 共匪 比土匪還不如 連工資都不給 把工人當成了工奴 美其名曰 你付出的勞動力就是你付出的資本 資本有賺有賠 那被 國企央企坑騙 不給工資也是剛好
全世界左派這麼一看 那我國家的工人還怎麼活啊
活該被針對
與其說台灣 是制度優勢
不如說 中共現在的定於一尊 是制度劣勢
一堆小粉紅 沒讀過 孔恩的 科學革命的結構 只有罵人的嘴 沒有讀書的眼
科學研究 需要三到五人的團隊 不能超過七人 也不能少於三人 這個與 人民民主專政 集體領導 的理論相通的 你搞定於一尊 科學研究 就只能抄襲 沒法做新的 抄到後來 所謂的創新 就是花禮胡捎 釣魚線轉錦帕
有沒有發覺 定於一尊之後 就算小粉紅怎麼吹
拿出來的 軟的 硬的 都是 吹得很辛苦的 燒得很旺盛的 抄得很細節的
連 天安門的 二進宮 都抄進了玉虛宮
如果想知道 為啥 中共 做不出 EUV 再多幾年也沒用
可以去看 youtube ee292l 的帶子
那個是十年前拍的 把當時 euv 遇到的各種問題 整理一遍 每個問題 還不是在同一個國家克服的
對 我那時用這教材教過.......
至於中芯的 7nm 這邊有討論
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNc4J-mt7Sg 踢爆華為Mate 60 Pro 七奈米5G新手機錢坑真相！張忠謀台積電笑到發抖！沒突破拜登封鎖，還讓中芯獲利毛利率腰斬！美國半導體協會SIA秘密報告，中共補助華為上兆晶片業兩兆燒錢到哭的中國仆街95
我觉得这文章也有点夸张了，内存方面中国还是落后韩国，特别是HBM领域。。
。。。。这是自封的
連自己的 主義 都沒有
還得
有主義就是爹
去拜 馬克思的 閃族主義
算哪門子 文明古國
真可笑，放在桌子上的一盘鱼肉觉得自己有资格教坐在桌边吃饭的人怎么做事情
哈哈哈哈哈哈😂
應該不是魚肉
普丁 要 剩上 給出 五千四百億美元
2022 一千億 2023 兩千億 2024到十月份 兩千四百億
這麼大塊
應該是豬肉 不是魚肉
還是土鱉 好啊
標準中藥材
每天学习一味中药——土鳖虫 2021-11-23 08:47 来源: 防治 每天学习一味中药——土鳖虫 凡以活血疗伤，治疗伤科疾患为主的药物，称为活血疗伤药。 本类药物性味多辛、苦、咸，主归肝、肾经，功善活血化瘀，消肿止痛，续筋接骨，止血生肌敛疮，主要适用于跌打损伤、瘀肿疼痛、骨折筋损、金疮出血等伤科疾患。也可用于其他一般血瘀病证。 骨折筋伤病证，多与肝肾有关，故使用本类药物时，当配伍补肝肾强筋骨药以促进骨折伤损的愈合恢复。
韓國的問題是笨到跟 中共 簽 FTA
一個得給工資的資本家
跟不用給工資的 奴隸主
怎麼拚成本啊....
谢谢这么详细的介绍，暑假回去买
网上也可以买吧
China chipmaking stocks surge on EUV lithography tech ... Investing.com Australia https://au.investing.com › news › stock-market-news 21 Jan 2025 — Chinese chipmaking stocks, especially those in the foundry sector, rose sharply on Tuesday as media reports showed progress in domestic lithography technology.
How China's Game-Changing EUV Breakthrough is a ... techovedas https://techovedas.com/how-chinas-game-changing-euv-breakthrough-is-a-challenge-to-asml-dominance/ 24 Jan 2025 — China has taken a major stride in semiconductor manufacturing by developing innovative extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography technology.
Can China make a 28nm lithography machine? China is poised to make a significant stride in its chipmaking capabilities, with the production of 28nm lithography equipment scheduled for next month, a development that has taken many analysts by surprise given the current geopolitical climate and technological barriers. 2 Dec 2024 China will produce 28nm Lithography equipment next month Fudzilla.com https://www.fudzilla.com › news › 60174-china-will-pr... UQ
Q ASML’s Laser-Produced Plasma (LPP) Method This method is like using a powerful flashlight to shine on a mirror ball coated with tiny droplets of water. The flashlight (a high-energy laser) hits the droplets (liquid tin), turning them into a glowing mist (plasma). This glowing mist scatters light (EUV) all over the room. However, the flashlight needs to be incredibly powerful, and the process involves a lot of intricate machinery, like advanced circuits (FPGA chips), to ensure everything happens precisely. This makes it highly effective but also very complex and expensive.
Zhao’s Laser-Induced Discharge Plasma (LDP) Method Now imagine instead of a flashlight, you use a simple spark between two wires to create light. First, a small vapor cloud (tin) is released between the wires. Then, a spark (high voltage) is applied, turning the vapor into a glowing cloud (plasma) that lights up the room (produces EUV light). This method directly converts electricity into light, making it simpler and more energy-efficient. However, it’s like trying to adjust the timing of the spark and the amount of vapor perfectly—it’s tricky to get just right. Additionally, some worry that this spark-based method might not be bright enough to light up a very large room (power output limitations).
Comparison LPP (Flashlight on droplets): Complex, powerful, and precise but expensive and energy-intensive. LDP (Spark in a vapor cloud): Simpler, cheaper, and more energy-efficient but technically challenging to optimize and potentially limited in brightness. Since 2008, Zhao’s team has been refining the “spark method,” and their recent award suggests they’ve made notable advancements. However, challenges like fine-tuning the spark timing and ensuring sufficient brightness remain critical hurdles. UQ
我去年跟着搞过一次海运，感觉不好。反正每年回去过暑假，回去买更方便。
Q ASML still has no licence to ship newest machines to China Reuters https://www.reuters.com › technology › asml-still-has-n... 19 Jan 2022 — "I am not saying it cannot be done, because I know the laws of physics are the same in China as they are here," he said. "Never say never. They will certainly try." UQ
合作共赢是最优解，你解释一下为啥川总不和加拿大，墨西哥合作了？一只井底之蛙大放厥词，被洗脑了还装优越。真是可笑之极！
是不是因为加拿大：
“比土匪還不如 連工資都不給 把工人當成了工奴”？
看这SB说出：连工资都不给，把工人当工奴。就知道是只井底之蛙，和台湾绿媒说大陆吃不起茶叶蛋，大陆高铁没有靠背的嘉宾一路货色。