Vivek Ramaswamy The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH: Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG. A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers. (Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates). More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.” Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest. “Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China. This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness. That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it.
印度人也出来揭露H1B FRAUD H1B FRAUD EXPOSED My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair. I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials Science and Engineering,and upon graduation in 2014 i applied to @SpaceX only to get rejected after two rounds of interview on the basis of nationality. They really wanted me because of my skills but there are some regulations called ITAR which prevents SpaceX from hiring foreign nationals. UNDERSTANDABLE. Then I went on to work for Oil and Gas companies who would file for my H1B. I had 3 attempt to win the lottery (YES it is a damn lottery!). Guess what, i never won it. Then the manager from SpaceX who really wanted to hire me, had started a non-profit by 2016 and wanted to file for my H1B. Twice. That’s when i learned, non-profits don’t have a lottery. They are evaluated on case by case basis. Lucky me right? WRONG. The non-profit was too small for them to sponsor H1Bs. Besides the govt funds should create employment for citizens and not foreigners. UNDERSTANDABLE. So after 5 failed attempts, i decided to move back to India. Meanwhile my friends/acquaintances had already won the lottery and were working in the US. HOW DID THEY WIN THE LOTTERY AND I DIDN’T? Enter: Consultancy firms. These are run by unknown Indians, from their kitchens and basements, selling H1Bs. What???? Yes, they fabricate and spice up your resume, so you can qualify for these high skilled jobs, they interview on your behalf, and land you the job. In return they take 30% of your salary Y1, 20% Y2 etc. Yeah but how do they win the lottery? Clearly that can’t be rigged? Yes it can. They put in 3-5 applications PER candidate so that your probability of getting picked increases. WOW. Then Pratik, why didn’t you do it? Because it means you need to work for whatever employer gets picked in the lottery. I didn’t want to JUST WORK in US, I wanted to work and contribute to the right employers. I would rather be in India and start by own company than work in the US with a fake resume. The crazy thing is my acquaintances who couldn’t actually do the work because they were faking resumes, ended up outsourcing their work remotely to folks in India. WOW Objectively I was more deserving of the H1B than these losers who faked resume, rigged the lottery, gave away part of their salary to the consultancy and part to actual folks in india doing their job remotely, and when they didn’t have enough $ to survive in the US, they worked as pizza delivery guys for cash. No Indian can argue that this is the utmost form of cheating and taking jobs from Americans. And taking jobs from other more deserving Indians who didn’t play this game. To close, I am not generalizing that this is rampant among all H1B holders. There are many who won the lottery and deserve it. But i think the rigging is more common than most know. I know at least 3 who have done it. Unfortunately my reach is limited on X so this might get lost. But hopefully it gets noticed. I will be here if you are interested in more details. @VivekGRamaswamy @elonmusk @DOGE @LauraLoomer
Vivek Ramaswamy The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH: Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG. A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers. (Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates). More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.” Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest. “Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China. This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness. That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it.
me3me3 发表于 2024-12-29 14:40 h1b大讨论之前美国副外长就要禁止中国学生学STEM，STEM由印度人来。H1B大讨论至少防止老印把美国霍霍成印度西特厚V2，拖累所有人 （or the next London)。 https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1873335238434427203
Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell 说的，这是拜登任命的，可得想想怎么甩到Trump身上 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/us-needs-chinese-students-humanities-indian-students-sciences-us-diplo-rcna158795
以前这个事情没有摆到台面上来，反而无人关心，被musk和vivek这么一折腾，搞得人尽皆知，右派赶紧顺着梯子往上爬，开始把多年攒的黑材料一起释放出来，这个舆论现在对职业移民非常不利。虽然目前trump的优先级上mass deportation是day 1就要开始弄的，但是搞职业移民也就是举手之劳的事情。目前的舆情上看，大致右派想要的有几条
大部分H1b属于非必要移民，应该完全掐死，少部分有必要的应该同时让他train us citizen as substitute, 当training的对象达到岗位要求就应该让h1走人
雇佣H1的公司应该交特别工资税，用来资助训练本土人才
在目前mass layoff的前提下应该完全切断h1, 让真正有才能的走o1通道。如果完全切断h1, 美国本土工人的薪资应该有4倍涨幅。
面对右派拿出的证据，vivek和musk实际上招架不住，musk开始封锁舆论，vivek开始模糊立场。另外一些印度移民组织开始活动准备应对有可能的冲击。目前来看，这一局MAGA派是赢的。
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我花了半天看了一下twitter和reddit上的回帖，我发现右派对于H1B的细节其实非常清楚，并不像我们以前想的那样美国老百姓连合法移民和非法移民都分不清。比如针对马斯克和vivek的论点：
第一，美国需要全世界的人才。右派反驳：现在美国国内的top 学校的cs毕业生都大批失业，为什么要舍近求远去全世界招人？ 第二，H1B工作更努力，更motivated。右派反驳：没错，因为他们绝对不能失业，失业了就会失去身份，所以他们对employer abuse的忍耐度高的多, 所以显示特别motivated。
第三，H1B都是top talent, elite人才。右派反驳，没有的事，H1B就是大批量搬运，靠抽签决定的签证，H1B的要求里面没有一条显示他们是top talent，elite 人才。如果修改法律要求有一定的程序来证明他们是最顶尖的人才，你们资本家会不会支持？
美国人并没有反对highly skilled immigration，红蓝对高科技移民的支持率分别是70%和80%，算是少有的两党一致的话题了。现在辩论的焦点是怎么定义高技术移民，H1B究竟是高技术移民还是用来替换不听话的美国人的更听话的labor？如果美国选民要求任何美国人都要优先，你当然可以说H1B
worker比麦当劳翻肉饼的更优秀，但是你怎么证明H1B比一个州立大学CS毕业生更优秀呢？如果美国选民提出同等学历的情况下，美国公民优先，这是不是个很合理的要求呢？我觉得无论是Trump还是老马都不敢公开反驳。
其实你看辩论到最后，老马和小微已经招架不住开始转换概念了。这个话题最好的状态就是偷偷的存在，不要引起人们的注意，注意率越高，对H1B越不利。因为H1B的优点真的不是高技能，而是更听话，雇佣H1B的过程和细节绝对经不起放在spotlight下面仔细解剖。
补充内容 (2024-12-28 08:29 +08:00): 这次把h1b摆到台面上的大辩论也不是只有风险，我发现有个现象就是maga攻击的都是印度人，所以也可能有个潜在的好处是会限制icc的abuse
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网上早就有人讨论过这个问题。非法移民的那些工作，美国人并不是不需要，但那都是脏累差，工资还低的工作。美国人真正不满的就是h1b这些白领高薪的工作的流失。Obama当政期间，美国人就质问他你为什么不爱美国人。
看美国人的论坛，他们也知道这些码农的工作不是rocket science，我还记得，一个烙印和老美的争论，烙印说绿卡都是打过广告的，说明美国人没有合适的人选，才能通过的。但美国人并不买账。现在在名校cs毕业生都找不到工作的情况下，美国人还会相信这一套吗？如果你是美国人，你会怎么想？
对于非法移民，美国人的的态度是明确的，就是安全和人口组成的担忧；川普也在竞选期间拿非法移民残害美国人的一些犯罪案例作为宣传点，但川普没有拿合法移民宣传，并不等于川普和传粉对于h1b没有看法，上一届任期miller对于合法移民手续的各种设置障碍，就可见一斑，而这一届，miller再次入局，你就知道美国人和川普的真正想法了。我可以大胆的语言，这一届对合法移民的障碍将会设置的更大，mark my words！
另外，从技术和成本角度来说，驱逐合法移民和非法移民的难度不可同日而语。合法移民，只要一个指令，就可以暂停所有的审批；对非法移民，你可以脑补一下，需要多少人力审核，追查，跟踪以及安置，遣返。。。这个成本非常高，大规模的deportation的发生之前，需要大量的人力组织调查先。
现在是暴风雨前的平静，接下来的四年，愿大家早做打算，一切顺利
🔥 最新回帖
听谁说的？ “听说以后往国外汇款要查id 非法的要扣50%的税“？
这个帖子是认真的？你觉得homeless 会去做那么辛苦的工作？
外包就是因为三哥三姐占据了高中低管理层，他们做出的决策
资本可不认为是一分钱一分货。就这样的平均烂水平，不是各大公司还在争相扩大外包份额么？唉。
只有5.43%的H1B超过20万？
这数据怎么那么假
🛋️ 沙发板凳
眼见都烦。退出
“顶级科技公司之所以经常聘用外国出生的第一代工程师，而不是 “土生土长 ”的美国人，并不是因为美国人天生智商不足（这是一种懒惰而错误的解释）。其中一个关键因素在于 “文化”。艰难的问题需要艰难的答案，如果我们真的想解决这个问题，我们就必须面对现实：
Vivek Ramaswamy
The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born & first-generation engineers over “native” Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: culture. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:
Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.
A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.
A culture that venerates Cory from “Boy Meets World,” or Zach & Slater over Screech in “Saved by the Bell,” or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in “Family Matters,” will not produce the best engineers.
(Fact: I know *multiple* sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates).
More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of “Friends.” More math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less “chillin.” More extracurriculars, less “hanging out at the mall.”
Most normal American parents look skeptically at “those kinds of parents.” More normal American kids view such “those kinds of kids” with scorn. If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve.
Now close your eyes & visualize which families you knew in the 90s (or even now) who raise their kids according to one model versus the other. Be brutally honest.
“Normalcy” doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China.
This can be our Sputnik moment. We’ve awaken from slumber before & we can do it again. Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness.
That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence. I’m confident we can do it.
根子上的逻辑就是资方和广大韭菜的利益是不一致，甚至是互相矛盾，互相对立的。
能便宜、方便，可靠的雇佣质优价廉的外国留学生，谁愿意多花钱，多花心思和精力雇佣价格高又不开心随时可以跳槽的本国人？
一切的根源都是：阶级，和阶级斗争
东亚人在美国始终是局外人，什么原因我得想想
那是不是刷题这个制度有些问题呢？
需要刷大量的题来选本身就说明了美国境内有大量合适的劳动力可以用，否则为什么设这么高的bar来筛选。
当官不为民做主、不如回家种红薯。
现在成了众矢之的 其实跟h1b本人和雇佣公司没有太多关系 是跟美国自己有关 过去半个世纪 美国大部分时间处于上升期 吸引全球精英可以把饼做大 一个明证就是现在美国相对于欧洲诸国 相对于全世界 的科技领先 在上升期 大家都可以从更大的饼中获益 哪怕好工作给移民拿去了 但是大家都从更大的饼中获益了 什么科技都几乎是美国先用到 才轮到其他国家 美国的巨大优势也back up了美国在全世界的business
如今H1B的巨大争执 其实反应的是这个饼停止生长 所以本地人和h1b 要抢饭碗了
这仅仅是个开始 有生之年 看不到回头路
要求美国学位的确不过分。80%+ 的H1b申请者根本肉身在印度
“是人才,总是留得下来的”
这句话有点天真。。。那样委曲求全留下来的也算“留得下来”吗？
这个白生学业优秀么？做项目能力怎么样？
是不是infosys 这类公司给了政治献金？感觉不像是几个科技巨头和大公司们游说来的
h1b不一定就比美国人听话，听不听话跟visa status无关，不想听话的换个公司继续h1b一样可以。
这些才是问题所在，无论一龙还是极右的MAGA竟然没有把这些分类后，再搞不同的政策。当然还有外包印度的服务业也没有人指出来
为什么没人指出来h1b现在的最主要问题是印度icc abuse？其实7万h1b名额正常使用，给IT医药金融技术领域根本用不完，完全不是什么问题，主要是ICC扰乱秩序才造成现在的不够用大排队抽签的问题
这些行业都是美国独步全球的行业 美国几千所高校 有什么需要从外国找留学生来做 从中国招人来美国金融机构 因为这个中国来的英文都说不利索的人能胜任 美国毕业的美国人不行 你觉得好笑不？这就是系统性的排挤美国人好吗
一看就不是H1过来的，身边都是高科技的h1过来的，有的英语是不好，但肯定不是绝大多数。可能你接触的都是中国城的？
排挤啥美国人，但凡美国人能胜任这些工作，哪有中印啥事
难道我记错了？H1b 不是要求master degree么？
能介绍一下你怎么来的美国？英文说的利索吗？
你还是少贬低中国人吧。他们把你咋了？你为啥恨恨的？印度来了那么多可以人，随地大小便的，看不出来素质比中国学生好很多、除了会说英语。你这标准真奇葩
maga能看到这些点, 还是maga吗
可能那些中国H1不懂某些俚语，不知道本地球星。但本专业的英语，没见过有问题的啊。
招国际生大户UIUC 24年招了多少国际生？将近1400！其中近一半是中国人。这就顶过几个藤校国际生总和了？其他几个加州大学，UW, ASU啥的，哪个不是小千
为什麽说H1B薪资低？我看一点也不低啊
计划的H1b确实是这么多，但各大公司私下里猫腻获得很多额外批准的名额，有一年居然能搞到80万。而且有很多h1b并不是高技术高学历，工资也很低
真的有一年能搞到80万名额？！是什么签证类型？
简直就是没有脑子
有人下载了官方数据做了分析
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https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953
这上面都是总申请数而不是总批准数吧。
H1B FRAUD EXPOSED My reach is not big enough for my message to be heard but I hope @twobitidiot and others can help amplify this because whatever i am about to say is 100% true, personally verifiable and absolutely unfair. I came to US in 2012 for Masters degree is Materials Science and Engineering,and upon graduation in 2014 i applied to @SpaceX only to get rejected after two rounds of interview on the basis of nationality. They really wanted me because of my skills but there are some regulations called ITAR which prevents SpaceX from hiring foreign nationals. UNDERSTANDABLE. Then I went on to work for Oil and Gas companies who would file for my H1B. I had 3 attempt to win the lottery (YES it is a damn lottery!). Guess what, i never won it. Then the manager from SpaceX who really wanted to hire me, had started a non-profit by 2016 and wanted to file for my H1B. Twice. That’s when i learned, non-profits don’t have a lottery. They are evaluated on case by case basis. Lucky me right? WRONG. The non-profit was too small for them to sponsor H1Bs. Besides the govt funds should create employment for citizens and not foreigners. UNDERSTANDABLE. So after 5 failed attempts, i decided to move back to India. Meanwhile my friends/acquaintances had already won the lottery and were working in the US. HOW DID THEY WIN THE LOTTERY AND I DIDN’T? Enter: Consultancy firms. These are run by unknown Indians, from their kitchens and basements, selling H1Bs. What???? Yes, they fabricate and spice up your resume, so you can qualify for these high skilled jobs, they interview on your behalf, and land you the job. In return they take 30% of your salary Y1, 20% Y2 etc. Yeah but how do they win the lottery? Clearly that can’t be rigged? Yes it can. They put in 3-5 applications PER candidate so that your probability of getting picked increases. WOW. Then Pratik, why didn’t you do it? Because it means you need to work for whatever employer gets picked in the lottery. I didn’t want to JUST WORK in US, I wanted to work and contribute to the right employers. I would rather be in India and start by own company than work in the US with a fake resume. The crazy thing is my acquaintances who couldn’t actually do the work because they were faking resumes, ended up outsourcing their work remotely to folks in India. WOW Objectively I was more deserving of the H1B than these losers who faked resume, rigged the lottery, gave away part of their salary to the consultancy and part to actual folks in india doing their job remotely, and when they didn’t have enough $ to survive in the US, they worked as pizza delivery guys for cash. No Indian can argue that this is the utmost form of cheating and taking jobs from Americans. And taking jobs from other more deserving Indians who didn’t play this game. To close, I am not generalizing that this is rampant among all H1B holders. There are many who won the lottery and deserve it. But i think the rigging is more common than most know. I know at least 3 who have done it. Unfortunately my reach is limited on X so this might get lost. But hopefully it gets noticed. I will be here if you are interested in more details. @VivekGRamaswamy @elonmusk @DOGE @LauraLoomer
属实。 最关键是外包，不是 H1.
感觉他说的是L签证。不是H1.
支持CS移出H1抽签。LOL
很透彻
地里有人讲他刷800道题？太卷了，刷题只是为了pass the bar, 同工作有什么关系？美帝不是应试教育，当然干不过老中老印。
其实更具体的是越来越多大公司被印度人偷家，outsource到印度不一定省钱效率高，但是对印度高管忠诚，所以实际上根本的矛盾就是印度的软件服务业和美国的矛盾， 川普又有顺理成章的加税理由了
H1抢的是高薪工作，一般MAGA白人其实做不了。要做是要经过训练或者上学后才行。
外包抢的是底层工作，比如电话客服就是任何MAGA白人都能做，而其他国家比如中国的普通移民做不了，只有印度人英语母语能做。还有H4抢的白人在公司里HR，秘书类的工作，需要交流的多，中国人也一般做不了，都是印度人在做。
那有百分之多少的老美20万以上？
其实刷题本身考察的只是服从度，能上到州大的娃，只要愿意刷，肯定都能过的，我也知道很多国内top2的不愿意花太多时间刷题，或者工作太忙没时间刷题，进不了大厂的，相反很多烂校文科毕业一门心思进大厂的，上班都在摸鱼刷题，很容易就进大厂了。所以刷题跟能力根本没那么多关联，更多的是看你愿不愿意服从。
这两年有PhD学位的，抽H1B的中奖率大概1/3。有认识的人三年抽不到，要么O1，办不了O1的需要挂靠一个学校。
20万的标准从何而来？ 州大教授也大部分不足20万工资吧 尤其是ap 甚至是associate prof 这些更有可能还在等待绿卡的人？
因为马一龙吹嘘H1B是top 0.1%的外国tech talent呀。
没办法，释怀吧，这种扭曲的心态无不和历史背景遭遇的经历有着极大的关系，只能靠下一代慢慢稀释
这话我爱听❤️。我就是国内top毕业，进不了大厂的酸葡萄。工作之外一直努力学习，真心喜欢IT这个专业。非CS科班出身，靠自学进了DS, 然后转backend，再转full-stack，AWS, CKAD各类certificates拿了不少，这些知识都直接在工作中变成了“生产力”。同事的评价是“XXX knows everything”。心里抵触刷题，所以一直逃避大厂面试机会。为了更高的薪酬，开始动心准备刷题了，但不是很开心。
LOL
请教如何自学转DS？
还“为了在美华人的未来”，笑死个人了。大选过了这么久，还没走出angry这个phase，lol
h1b大讨论之前美国副外长就要禁止中国学生学STEM，STEM由印度人来。H1B大讨论至少防止老印把美国霍霍成印度西特厚V2，拖累所有人 （or the next London)。
https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1873335238434427203
那你千万别笑坏了，健康的活着看看接下来要发生的事情吧。我自己是不怕的，有时想想，这些关我屁事，怎么都轮不到我头上。事不关己高高挂起最好。
7/8年前，DS刚刚火起来时，在Coursera, Udemy, edX上学一些machine learning, python, SQL方面的课程，很容易找到工作。现在形势不清楚了。
Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell 说的，这是拜登任命的，可得想想怎么甩到Trump身上
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/us-needs-chinese-students-humanities-indian-students-sciences-us-diplo-rcna158795
城门失火，殃及池鱼。
和你一样的感觉，我也是转行的，非常抵触刷题，觉得刷题按照题型背得滚瓜烂熟直到三十分钟两道题的水平，就是浪费生命。实际工作中几年才用到一次和刷题有关，但那些靠背题进的碰到了真实案例要用刷题的技巧来解决的根本不知道去用它就让问题一直defect在那，我不刷题的到是用算法把问题解决了，只不过花的时间是几个小时，不是十几分钟，但会做题不会用到实际问题上题做再快有什么用？更不要说大部分实际工作中这些算法题都用不上。不过我年记大了，刷题对年纪大记性大不及年轻人的人来说太辛苦了，不打算为了钱这么苦自己。
像你这么想那永远这不敢那不能，那就忍着三哥三姐在你头上拉屎吧