要么你判断错误，对方不是npd，只是自恋偏高（narcissistic, but not to the level of personality disorder) 要么那些多是表面朋友（也就是对npd有用的人），npd 会用假自我来面对的（比如高价值人群或潜在血包）。为了利益交换被npd当作人脉经营而不是真心朋友。
DC2013 发表于 2024-11-28 04:36 要么你判断错误，对方不是npd，只是自恋偏高（narcissistic, but not to the level of personality disorder) 要么那些多是表面朋友（也就是对npd有用的人），npd 会用假自我来面对的（比如高价值人群或潜在血包）。为了利益交换被npd当作人脉经营而不是真心朋友。
回复 37楼 doublemint 的帖子 查了一下，确实无药可救。 Narcissistic personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a life-long pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a diminished ability to empathize with other people's feelings. Generally speaking, however, most experts agree that it is usually not worth trying to reason with a narcissist. This is because narcissists are notoriously difficult to engage in any kind of meaningful dialogue as they are often incapable of seeing things from anyone else's perspective other than their own. As with many personality disorders, the exact cause of NPD is not known. Researchers believe it may be caused a mixture of genes, early childhood experiences and psychological factors. Early childhood risk factors include: excessive praise or judgement by parents. Negative childhood experiences. There may be a link between negative childhood experiences. Trauma, rejection, neglect and lack of support during childhood can all contribute to developing narcissistic traits. Because of this lack of empathy, a narcissist cannot really love you. Narcissists do not experience and show love in the sense that most people do. NPD cannot be cured but can be managed with therapy and medication. The goal of treatment is to help the person with NPD learn how to recognize their own self-defeating behaviors and replace them with healthier coping skills that allow for more meaningful relationships The best way to deal with a person with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is to get out of their way by extracting yourself from this person's life and influence. It is not your job and outside of your capabilities to make another person understand that they have a condition called NPD. Yes, it is possible for individuals with narcissistic traits to change over time, though the process can be complex and challenging. Here are some key points to consider: Self-Awareness: As people age, they may gain insight into their behaviors and the impact of those behaviors on their relationships
要么你判断错误，对方不是npd，只是自恋偏高（narcissistic, but not to the level of personality disorder)
要么那些多是表面朋友（也就是对npd有用的人），npd 会用假自我来面对的（比如高价值人群或潜在血包）。为了利益交换被npd当作人脉经营而不是真心朋友。
还有本来没有关系的陌生人或者根本就点头之交的半陌生人，表面上看从零开始主动联系上来的，其实它下手前是做了功课的。就一直好奇它们是怎么在没有啥接触的时候做判断对方值得自己花精力做功课的？判断错了会很恼火吧🤭
嗯好奇在伪友情和伪亲密关系的建立过程中有被动的NPD吗？还是说NPD大都是主动开启的一方？逻辑是那么需要关注长年累月守株待兔的话会活活憋死吧？
潜在血包到底是什么味道那么吸引NPD?不断服从性测试吗？它会不会把人的善良热情错认成缺爱听话好操控啊？
+1 “不听她的都是魔鬼”，就是要对方按自己心意或者指示来，不然就乱喷。
她向来是这种个性， 她要大家都怕她，肯定她。跟她在一起真的很抑郁， 因为没法正常沟通。我尽量不去争辩，因为不到你认输，她是不会善罢甘休的，即便是“最亲的人”, 她也不会放过。现在看来是病态，说是神经病也不为过。 会使尽力气证明她是对的，就算是拿自己的命来证明。但其实没人在乎，她还要不停劝服别人她是对的。她吃的苦肯定是最苦的。但这种个性伤的最深的其实是她自己。她朋友不少，但也总是讲朋友坏话，对朋友没有对家人这么肆无忌惮， 可能多少有利益牵扯。
明白你说的，就是内心无法认可自己也不喜欢自己，所以才疯狂拉外界认可吧，不然自我攻击得太厉害。
我妈也一样，虽然铁证下她先会“不记得了”然后会被迫承认自己有错，但是最终会强硬绕回来反复强调不能因为一两件事把她这个人全否了。她无法就事论事，我需要她意识到自己对他人的伤害，可是恰恰就在那个点上，她满心觉得自己幻想里的人设立不立得住比啥都重要关乎生死。而对方的感受？她根本就没想过。她过得苦就是一直活在恐惧中吧，内心里动不动就会被trigger到生存威胁而警铃大作。这样的人真的没有能力维持任何长期客体关系。
我妈也一样，死都要证明自己对，鸡毛蒜皮都要争。
感觉这种人无药可救， 个性是改不了了。大到生命危险，小到买的果子好不好。我说果子一分钱一分货，大的果肉多，然后她买小的，在你面前吃起来说，比大的好。每天要经历无数波挑战，我也累了，慢慢的就说你都是对的。反正我是彻彻底底放弃了
隐性的不管男女给人阴柔的感觉，久了发现是阴暗，不坦诚，不真实，爱撒谎，无关紧要的小事上撒谎信手拈来，诡辩，隐形攻击，被动攻击，倒打一耙。通常共病抑郁症，爱卖惨，交浅言深，自认受害者，喜欢博关注、博同情。交往久了把你拉下水，然后开始操控贬损，控制欲强，是古话说的真小人，近则不逊，远则怨。
感觉一是个性，好强， 我也好强，但我理智。二是她们可能多少自卑，没有正确的方法调解，只能来强的掩饰过去。但让爱她们的人也无法接近，帮助她们，真是难过，叹气
哈哈哈哈哈， 我妈是显性隐性都占了
显性隐性配一对不好吗🤭别祸害人间
我十几年前被身边几个npd搞得痛苦不堪，到网上搜索、寻求帮助，结果发现了NPD人格，各种特征都对的上，醍醐灌顶豁然开朗。他们就是一群心智不到3岁的熊孩子，一味忍让、讲道理只会纵容他们得寸进尺。对待熊孩子就得立场坚定、态度强硬、奖罚分明，像教育2岁小孩子一样给他们立规矩，违反规矩就严厉惩罚。一群纸老虎，只要你内心强大坚定，他们就服软了。
类似这种事情发生了很多次，鸡毛蒜皮的小事最后都要变成争对错，让我下跪认错，最后上网一查才明白，服从性测试。偏偏我从小就倔强，不是我错了，我不会服软的，奉陪斗到底。
玛雅怎么防止被NPD盯上啊？
传统女性是什么样的？温柔顺从、慈眉善目、与人为善、谦逊礼貌、低调讨好、逆来顺受、贤妻良母、贤惠保守、大度包容等等，那些就是npd们最喜欢的血包，被他们拿捏，克的死死的。
咱们反着来就行了，多读书、多锻炼、多赚钱，强身健体，放下恋爱脑，站起来战斗！
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听起来是很有道理，但是我包子, 而且心脏不好，永远弱势。其实我已经躲了我妈十几年了，我了解她，也了解我自己，在一起我早就疯了。最近她高血压，死活不吃药，说让她吃药的都是魔鬼，我就回来看看她，可能也是永别了。其实她非常渴望关爱，但又狠狠拒绝。
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斗争了好多年，改造的基本正常了。她/他们都是纸老虎，欺软怕硬的，你硬他就软了。
NPD如果有朋友，基本符合两个原则 1. 此人能力比NPD差，至少在NPD的眼里是这样子的；2.NPD和此人在一起，可以让NPD的自我感觉非常膨胀。一旦这两条不符合了，NPD立刻翻脸。
NPD就到处套磁，如果你太有同理心，或者内心不够坚强，就会被套牢。一旦意识到了，立刻远离就行了。NPD会去寻找下一个目标。
所以关键就是不要被套牢，一旦意识到跟对方在一起怎么都不舒服，又说不清楚原因，那就要考虑远离。
是的，不要圣母心，不要同理心泛滥，尊重他人命运，不参与别人因果。也称为灰岩疗法。
这个太难了，尤其是对至亲， 不过我也别无他法，释然了，否则真的跟自杀差不多。
“NPD就到处套磁”， 嗯所以不要盲目以为主动闯进自己生活的都是能于万千人海中看见自己的人🤭其实他们可能同时在敲好几家的门😑
你这是把多少隐性NPD的饭碗都砸了😂
接受他们在自己剧本里退场这件事真的也是很难过的。
感觉NPD 是病，但这些人不可能承认自己病了寻求医治，尤其老一辈文化低的， 无解的一生
不能直接离吗？为啥要奉陪到底？ 你还年轻，还有机会。等他老了必须有人照顾的时候，你可能就会因为良心不忍不离了。趁现在离婚没有道德枷锁，离了吧！
有文化也没用。这是为数不多的不能治疗的精神疾病。假如是真的有，那是不可能好的。
就算承认有病 人格障碍也没办法治疗吧
查了一下，确实无药可救。 Narcissistic personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a life-long pattern of exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a diminished ability to empathize with other people's feelings.
Generally speaking, however, most experts agree that it is usually not worth trying to reason with a narcissist. This is because narcissists are notoriously difficult to engage in any kind of meaningful dialogue as they are often incapable of seeing things from anyone else's perspective other than their own.
As with many personality disorders, the exact cause of NPD is not known. Researchers believe it may be caused a mixture of genes, early childhood experiences and psychological factors. Early childhood risk factors include: excessive praise or judgement by parents.
Negative childhood experiences. There may be a link between negative childhood experiences. Trauma, rejection, neglect and lack of support during childhood can all contribute to developing narcissistic traits.
Because of this lack of empathy, a narcissist cannot really love you. Narcissists do not experience and show love in the sense that most people do.
NPD cannot be cured but can be managed with therapy and medication. The goal of treatment is to help the person with NPD learn how to recognize their own self-defeating behaviors and replace them with healthier coping skills that allow for more meaningful relationships
The best way to deal with a person with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is to get out of their way by extracting yourself from this person's life and influence. It is not your job and outside of your capabilities to make another person understand that they have a condition called NPD.
Yes, it is possible for individuals with narcissistic traits to change over time, though the process can be complex and challenging. Here are some key points to consider: Self-Awareness: As people age, they may gain insight into their behaviors and the impact of those behaviors on their relationships
如果意识到，可以改善。前面一个层主把她老公训好了
还要下跪…病得不轻
这个老公好可怕啊😱你后来不会真的跪了吗？
头两年没搞明白怎么回事，带孩子很累也没精力跟他吵，为了息事宁人，不吵架不影响孩子就妥协了跪了。后来看清楚了他是NPD，直接揭穿他，让他下跪道歉认错，再也不敢造次了。
那时候还年轻，刚结婚，娃又小，没想过离婚，以为是磨合期，想再努力努力。好在过了七年之痒，他也基本上正常了，算是磨合好了吧。