If you have selfish, ignorant, racist citizens, you will have selfish, ignorant, racist leaders. 如果总统准确地代表了公众，这八年一个平均的选民要么是一个纯粹马基雅维利主义的老白男，要么是一个阿尔兹海默中期的老白男。 综合一下这两个描述，我甚至觉得这**高估**了选民群体。
DOI EXAMINATION FINDS COMPLIANCE AND GOVERNANCE RISKS AT 51 CITY-FUNDED NONPROFITS THAT OPERATE NYC HOMELESS SHELTERS AND FLAWED CITY OVERSIGHT OF DHS-FUNDED PROVIDERS —DOI issued 32 reforms to address system-wide vulnerabilities— Jocelyn E. Strauber, Commissioner of the New York City Department of Investigation (“DOI”), issued a Report today memorializing the key findings from DOI’s extensive examination of compliance risks at 51 nonprofit human service providers that operate many of the homeless shelters in New York City and of the City’s oversight of the shelter system. The Report includes DOI’s 32 recommendations for reform, intended to protect the billions of dollars that the City spends annually on shelter services from corruption, waste, fraud, and abuse. A copy of the Report follows this release and can be found here: https://www.nyc.gov/site/doi/newsroom/public-reports.page
DOI Commissioner Jocelyn E. Strauber said, “When it comes to protecting the vast taxpayer resources that City-funded nonprofits receive, prevention is key. City-funded nonprofit service providers pose unique compliance and governance risks, and comprehensive City oversight is the best way to stop corruption, fraud, and waste before it starts. This deep dive into the City-funded homeless service provider system builds on DOI’s extensive experience investigating nonprofit fraud, and our 2021 Report concerning City-funded nonprofits. Today’s Report provides ample evidence of the risks specific to nonprofits and shortcomings in City oversight and makes 32 recommendations to strengthen controls around this essential network. I thank the DOI team that has worked tirelessly on this investigation and the many City entities that provided assistance, including the staff from the City Department of Social Services who worked closely with DOI to support this examination.” The City, through the City Department of Social Services (“DSS”) and the City Department of Homeless Services (“DHS”), operates the largest homeless shelter system of any municipality in the United States. DHS-funded shelters currently support an average of over 86,000 people per night at a cost of approximately $4 billion annually in FY 2024, up from $2.7 billion annually in FY 2022, due in large part to the influx of asylum seekers over the past two years. (DOI did not review City-funded contracts involving services to the asylum seekers that were procured under emergency procedures for this Report. DOI has oversight of these expenditures through an integrity monitor that is supervised by and reports to DOI.)
The examination for this Report began in 2021, well before the influx of asylum seekers, although some of the providers DOI examined are providing asylum seeker services. DOI’s focus on this area was prompted in part by the investigation of Victor Rivera, the former CEO of nonprofit City service provider Bronx Parent Housing Network, who ultimately pled guilty to a federal bribery-and-kickback scheme involving that nonprofit. DOI investigators drew on their knowledge of financial and administrative vulnerabilities in City-funded nonprofit providers generally to examine individual shelter providers’ governance and compliance practices, and potential conflicts of interest and other potential misconduct during this examination of 51 nonprofit organizations operating shelters for DHS. DOI reviewed the 2 operations of these organizations and their responses to a detailed questionnaire; analyzed an array of materials including audit reports, financial ledgers, invoices, and disclosures to the City; and conducted dozens of interviews, including of certain providers’ senior executives. DOI also evaluated the oversight of these providers by the City, including by DHS and DSS. The provider practices and City oversight reflected in the Report dates from 2018 through the present, although the majority of DOI’s information-gathering was completed from 2022 through 2024.
DOI received approximately 70 responses to the questionnaire distributed to City-funded nonprofit organizations. To date, DOI has completed findings on 51 providers and issued related referral letters to DSS, each one summarizing DOI’s findings as to individual shelter providers and, in total, raising hundreds of governance and compliance concerns at these providers. The findings in these referrals already have caused some providers to make improvements to their policies and procedures. The Report makes 32 recommendations to the relevant City agencies to address system-wide vulnerabilities, strengthen controls with respect to providers to protect the substantial public funds providers receive, and enhance public trust. Aspects of this examination are still ongoing, and this Report is a summary of DOI’s major findings to date. This Report builds on the findings from the investigations DOI has conducted in recent years that have focused on the City’s nonprofit vendor spending and which have resulted in criminal charges, administrative findings, integrity monitorships, and recommendations to improve City oversight of these contracts and providers. Since 2018, DOI investigations have resulted in at least 25 arrests on charges involving fraud and corruption at City-funded nonprofits, including prosecutions related to homeless service providers. Since 2018, DOI also has issued more than a dozen administrative referrals to City agencies – in addition to the administrative referrals issued as part of this examination -- reporting findings of mismanagement, noncompliance, or other non-criminal misconduct at City-funded nonprofits. In 2021, DOI issued Report on Corruption Vulnerabilities in the City’s Oversight and Administration of Not-for-Profit Human Services, which identified gaps in the City’s general oversight of its contracts with nonprofit human service providers. Many of DOI’s prior findings and recommendations remain relevant to the findings of this Report, which focuses solely on the unique issues associated with the oversight of DHSfunded shelter providers.
This Report identifies a variety of compliance and governance risks at these providers, as well as in the City’s overall management of the shelter system. These risks vary in their severity and include: • Conflicts of interest affecting City money. DOI identified cases where insiders at the shelter provider had personal business interests involving the shelter through which they received payments outside their regular compensation. In some cases, shelter executives simultaneously held employment at a private entity, such as a security company, that was hired to provide services at City-funded shelters. • Poor Citywide controls over how City money is used for executive compensation. DOI identified multiple shelter executives who received more than $500,000 per year, and in some cases, more than $700,000 per year, from providers and related organizations. Executive compensation in these cases is funded either largely or in part through City funds. The City lacks sufficient rules concerning how much City money can be allocated to nonprofit executives’ salaries. • Nepotism, in violation of City contracts. DOI found shelter providers that have employed immediate family members of senior executives and board members, in apparent violation of their City contracts. For instance, one provider that is largely funded by the City employed its CEO’s children since at least 2007. This provider subsequently entered into a DOI-managed monitorship agreement. • Shelter providers failing to follow competitive bidding rules when procuring goods and services with public money. DOI found numerous cases where shelter providers did not comply with the City’s competitive bidding requirements or where it was unclear whether shelter providers conducted true competitive bidding processes. For example, this review identified multiple instances where shelter providers awarded multimillion-dollar building maintenance service contracts to companies affiliated with the buildings’ landlords.
DOI issued 32 recommendations to address the system-wide vulnerabilities noted in this Report. Included among the key recommendations are: ➢ DSS should appoint a Chief Vendor Compliance Officer to provide overall leadership for DSS and DHS’s compliance strategy with respect to nonprofit human service contracts, including contracts with shelter providers. ➢ Shelter providers should be required to regularly disclose additional information relevant to identifying compliance risks, including potential conflicts of interest for key persons. ➢ DSS and DHS should take steps to improve their oversight of shelter operators’ expenditures, including by immediately stopping payments for costs that are not accompanied by a proper description and ensuring that relevant agency staff receive regular financial compliance training. ➢ The City should update its electronic procurement and invoicing systems to better enable thirdparty oversight and centralize key documentation.
This Report also reiterates many of the 23 recommendations that DOI issued in its November 2021 Report on Corruption Vulnerabilities in the City’s Oversight and Administration of Not-for-Profit Human Services. While the City has implemented some reforms since the 2021 Report and is also undertaking some work that closely tracks DOI’s recommendations, many of the recommendations from 2021 have not been implemented at any substantial level. The 2021 Report recommended, among other things, that the City: Reform its conflict-of-interest disclosure system for the City’s human service providers. Develop more specific guidance to agencies on executive compensation and consider setting a cap or other parameters on City-funded executive compensation. Conduct more robust reviews of expenses that human service providers invoice to the City, including by reviewing larger samples of supporting documentation. New York City is currently making an unprecedented financial commitment to address homelessness. For that reason, it is more important than ever that it implement stronger risk management and compliance controls around this spending. Accepting and implementing the reforms set forth in this Report, as well as in DOI’s November 2021 Report, would be critical steps in this direction. DOI Commissioner Strauber thanks DSS Commissioner Molly Wasow Park and her staff, for their partnership on this examination and the Mayor’s Office of Contracts and Mayor’s Office of Risk Management and Compliance for their assistance. DOI also received support from two private firms with experience in investigations, audits, and compliance monitoring, who provided auditing and investigative resources with respect to certain provider reviews. At DOI, this examination was conducted by Deputy Inspector General/Special Counsel Daniel Kacinski and Confidential Investigator Rushelle Sharpe, with the assistance of Senior Investigative Auditor Olga Avram and Senior Investigative Attorney Alex Cane in DOI’s Office of the Inspector General for CityFunded Nonprofits. Data Analysts Anthony McDowald and Zachary Sayle and Director of Data Analytics Shyam Prasad in DOI’s Data Analytics Unit provided technical assistance. The examination was supervised 4 by Senior Inspector General Andrew Sein, Deputy Commissioner of Strategic Initiatives Christopher Ryan, and Deputy Commissioner/ Chief of Investigations Dominick Zarrella. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doi/press-releases/2024/October/39DHSRptRelease10.17.2024.pdf
楼主真是站着说话不腰疼。中产没时间参加政治事务就好好地给中产减轻负担啊，让child care更affordable 啊，让公立学校教育更reliable啊，减中产税让中产有更多钱请家政服务啊。像马斯克那样生多少孩子都不怕，反正只要给钱就会认爹，当然是有时间有精力去政治事务里上蹿下跳，咱中产不顾着自己那点小日子 try to make ends meet怎么办？ 再说了，咱中产说话有用吗？说实话，美国领导阶级要是愿意倾听中产的话，美国根本就不会变成这样，不会陷入俄乌和以巴的财政支援无底洞而无法自拔。
你说没时间，忙都忙不过来，哪还能去投身社会运动。fair enough，所以结果也得承受，种瓜得瓜种豆得豆，不愿意贡献去支持你觉得合理的代表，那么上台的就是别的极端的代表，极端群体愿意花时间去支持，自然也得到他们想要的结果。
freedom isn't free. 只想享受public goods，却不愿意为建立和维护public goods做贡献，那么最终public goods就会消失，所谓劣币驱逐良币。
别以为我交税了，我遵纪守法了就够了，这只是bare minimum。这个法律的建立和维护，对制度的维持都需要人来做。合理的rep得不到支持上不了台，中产各家自扫门前雪，那么上台的就是white supremacy，上台的就是支持小孩变性，亚裔上学找工作quota。
凡事有果必有因，只有极左极右可选那只是果，因是只想享受public goods，不愿付出，那么最后就是社会崩坏。
如果总统准确地代表了公众，这八年一个平均的选民要么是一个纯粹马基雅维利主义的老白男，要么是一个阿尔兹海默中期的老白男。
综合一下这两个描述，我甚至觉得这**高估**了选民群体。
确实是，连代表洪波的trump背后也是有另一派系的硅谷大佬支持的，中产其实投哪个都是被卖了帮着数钱的，还要窝里互斗不亦乐乎
没问题。宁愿花大价钱鸡娃弹钢琴，宁愿花很多时间接送娃去各种兴趣班，也不愿意给议员写信，了解他们的policy，去支持合理的议员，不给娃创造一个好的社会环境，那么就不要抱怨以后娃成绩比黑人好，却上不了好大学，明明能力强，找工作却找了latino，明明有业绩，却被白人群体挡在门外。
是的，都是government的问题，都是总统的问题，都是资本家的问题，唯独不是我的问题。
我只是一个小老百姓，我啥都做不了，我只知道鸡娃买房，我交税不犯罪已经很了不起了，你们应该建立维护一个好的社会制度让我来享受，我不付出，我只想享受好的制度。好的制度就应该是天上掉下来的，天生就应该存在的
德国犹太人当年也是只想管自己都一亩三分地
然后呢？
你neng谁出这个话，就证明你是MAGA纳粹洗脑受害者
仔细读读我写的深入分析吧
【原创长贴】回顾一下2年前发的深度分析贴，讲讲election is stolen谎言宣传如何帮助Jan 6 2.0版
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你这是抄老毛的“中国社会各阶层分析”吧？
狼想要吃羊那是狼的问题。
但羊最后被狼吃了，那就是羊自己的问题。羊不是只有劣势，明明自己也有牙齿，明明数量多得多，却看着一只只被叼出去，仍然只躲在一旁看着别的羊被吃掉。然后庆幸自己没被抓，祈祷下一个被抓的不是自己。
现在来抱怨小孩被变性教育好大学被排挤？来抱怨白人种族主义排外？ 你难道还指望狼为了羊的利益摇旗呐喊？
是啊，普通老百姓，遵纪守法，认真工作交税，选举的时候也积极参与投票了，结果这还被PUA投入不够？楼主以为自己是谁啊
检查报告指出纽约市收容所系统存在一系列问题！
据侨报报道，市调查局（DOI）17日（周四）发布针对本市收容所系统检查报告，发现利益冲突、裙带主义以及包括多名主管年薪高达50万乃至70万的薪水超高等一系列问题，并提出多项改革意见。
该审查始于2021年，调查了51个非营利组织服务供应商。报告中指出的第一大问题为影响本市资金的利益冲突。 DOl确定了收容所服务供应商的内部人员有涉及收容所内部人士商业利益的情况，部分内部人士通过收容所获得常规补偿以外的付款。 部分收容所主管同时在受雇为收容所提供服务的私人实体工作。多名庇护所主管薪资超高，每年从供应商和相关组织获得超过50万到70万美元，其中主要或部分来自城市资金，因此本市缺乏足够规定以确定对于收容所高管工资的分配。
此外，DOI发现收容所系统存在违法城市合同的裙带主义，有服务供应商雇用了收容所主管和董事会成员的直系亲属。
而第三大问题为庇护所供应商在用公共资金采购商品和服务时未能遵守竞争性投标规则。
DOI局长史特劳勃(Jocelyn E.Strauber)表示，“市府资助的非营利服务提供商构成了独特的合规和治理风险，全面的城市监督是在腐败、欺诈和浪费开始之前阻止问题发生的最佳方式。今天的报告充分证明了非营利组织特有风险和城市监督缺陷，提出了32项建议以加强对这一重要系统的控制。” DOl发布了32条建议，以解决报告中指出的全系统漏洞。
包括市社会服务局（DSS）应任命一名首席供应商审核官，为DSS和国土安全部在非营利性利民服务合同方面的合规战略提供全面领导、应要求收容所提供者定期披露与识别合规风险相关的信息，包括关键人物的潜在利益冲突、DSS和市游民服务局（DHS）应采取措施改善对服务商支出的监督，包括立即停止支付模糊费用并确保相关工作人员定期接受财务合规培训、本市应更新其电子采购和发票系统，以更好地实现第三方监督并集中关键文件。
市府方面在对报告的回应中称，市府官员已同意了许多建议，并将制定一个书面计划，在90天内解决调查结果。
DOI EXAMINATION FINDS COMPLIANCE AND GOVERNANCE RISKS AT 51 CITY-FUNDED NONPROFITS THAT OPERATE NYC HOMELESS SHELTERS AND FLAWED CITY OVERSIGHT OF DHS-FUNDED PROVIDERS —DOI issued 32 reforms to address system-wide vulnerabilities—
Jocelyn E. Strauber, Commissioner of the New York City Department of Investigation (“DOI”), issued a Report today memorializing the key findings from DOI’s extensive examination of compliance risks at 51 nonprofit human service providers that operate many of the homeless shelters in New York City and of the City’s oversight of the shelter system. The Report includes DOI’s 32 recommendations for reform, intended to protect the billions of dollars that the City spends annually on shelter services from corruption, waste, fraud, and abuse. A copy of the Report follows this release and can be found here: https://www.nyc.gov/site/doi/newsroom/public-reports.page
DOI Commissioner Jocelyn E. Strauber said, “When it comes to protecting the vast taxpayer resources that City-funded nonprofits receive, prevention is key. City-funded nonprofit service providers pose unique compliance and governance risks, and comprehensive City oversight is the best way to stop corruption, fraud, and waste before it starts. This deep dive into the City-funded homeless service provider system builds on DOI’s extensive experience investigating nonprofit fraud, and our 2021 Report concerning City-funded nonprofits. Today’s Report provides ample evidence of the risks specific to nonprofits and shortcomings in City oversight and makes 32 recommendations to strengthen controls around this essential network. I thank the DOI team that has worked tirelessly on this investigation and the many City entities that provided assistance, including the staff from the City Department of Social Services who worked closely with DOI to support this examination.”
The City, through the City Department of Social Services (“DSS”) and the City Department of Homeless Services (“DHS”), operates the largest homeless shelter system of any municipality in the United States. DHS-funded shelters currently support an average of over 86,000 people per night at a cost of approximately $4 billion annually in FY 2024, up from $2.7 billion annually in FY 2022, due in large part to the influx of asylum seekers over the past two years. (DOI did not review City-funded contracts involving services to the asylum seekers that were procured under emergency procedures for this Report. DOI has oversight of these expenditures through an integrity monitor that is supervised by and reports to DOI.)
The examination for this Report began in 2021, well before the influx of asylum seekers, although some of the providers DOI examined are providing asylum seeker services. DOI’s focus on this area was prompted in part by the investigation of Victor Rivera, the former CEO of nonprofit City service provider Bronx Parent Housing Network, who ultimately pled guilty to a federal bribery-and-kickback scheme involving that nonprofit. DOI investigators drew on their knowledge of financial and administrative vulnerabilities in City-funded nonprofit providers generally to examine individual shelter providers’ governance and compliance practices, and potential conflicts of interest and other potential misconduct during this examination of 51 nonprofit organizations operating shelters for DHS. DOI reviewed the 2 operations of these organizations and their responses to a detailed questionnaire; analyzed an array of materials including audit reports, financial ledgers, invoices, and disclosures to the City; and conducted dozens of interviews, including of certain providers’ senior executives. DOI also evaluated the oversight of these providers by the City, including by DHS and DSS. The provider practices and City oversight reflected in the Report dates from 2018 through the present, although the majority of DOI’s information-gathering was completed from 2022 through 2024.
DOI received approximately 70 responses to the questionnaire distributed to City-funded nonprofit organizations. To date, DOI has completed findings on 51 providers and issued related referral letters to DSS, each one summarizing DOI’s findings as to individual shelter providers and, in total, raising hundreds of governance and compliance concerns at these providers. The findings in these referrals already have caused some providers to make improvements to their policies and procedures. The Report makes 32 recommendations to the relevant City agencies to address system-wide vulnerabilities, strengthen controls with respect to providers to protect the substantial public funds providers receive, and enhance public trust.
Aspects of this examination are still ongoing, and this Report is a summary of DOI’s major findings to date.
This Report builds on the findings from the investigations DOI has conducted in recent years that have focused on the City’s nonprofit vendor spending and which have resulted in criminal charges, administrative findings, integrity monitorships, and recommendations to improve City oversight of these contracts and providers. Since 2018, DOI investigations have resulted in at least 25 arrests on charges involving fraud and corruption at City-funded nonprofits, including prosecutions related to homeless service providers. Since 2018, DOI also has issued more than a dozen administrative referrals to City agencies – in addition to the administrative referrals issued as part of this examination -- reporting findings of mismanagement, noncompliance, or other non-criminal misconduct at City-funded nonprofits.
In 2021, DOI issued Report on Corruption Vulnerabilities in the City’s Oversight and Administration of Not-for-Profit Human Services, which identified gaps in the City’s general oversight of its contracts with nonprofit human service providers. Many of DOI’s prior findings and recommendations remain relevant to the findings of this Report, which focuses solely on the unique issues associated with the oversight of DHSfunded shelter providers.
This Report identifies a variety of compliance and governance risks at these providers, as well as in the City’s overall management of the shelter system. These risks vary in their severity and include:
• Conflicts of interest affecting City money. DOI identified cases where insiders at the shelter provider had personal business interests involving the shelter through which they received payments outside their regular compensation. In some cases, shelter executives simultaneously held employment at a private entity, such as a security company, that was hired to provide services at City-funded shelters.
• Poor Citywide controls over how City money is used for executive compensation. DOI identified multiple shelter executives who received more than $500,000 per year, and in some cases, more than $700,000 per year, from providers and related organizations. Executive compensation in these cases is funded either largely or in part through City funds. The City lacks sufficient rules concerning how much City money can be allocated to nonprofit executives’ salaries.
• Nepotism, in violation of City contracts. DOI found shelter providers that have employed immediate family members of senior executives and board members, in apparent violation of their City contracts. For instance, one provider that is largely funded by the City employed its CEO’s children since at least 2007. This provider subsequently entered into a DOI-managed monitorship agreement.
• Shelter providers failing to follow competitive bidding rules when procuring goods and services with public money. DOI found numerous cases where shelter providers did not comply with the City’s competitive bidding requirements or where it was unclear whether shelter providers conducted true competitive bidding processes. For example, this review identified multiple instances where shelter providers awarded multimillion-dollar building maintenance service contracts to companies affiliated with the buildings’ landlords.
DOI issued 32 recommendations to address the system-wide vulnerabilities noted in this Report. Included among the key recommendations are:
➢ DSS should appoint a Chief Vendor Compliance Officer to provide overall leadership for DSS and DHS’s compliance strategy with respect to nonprofit human service contracts, including contracts with shelter providers.
➢ Shelter providers should be required to regularly disclose additional information relevant to identifying compliance risks, including potential conflicts of interest for key persons.
➢ DSS and DHS should take steps to improve their oversight of shelter operators’ expenditures, including by immediately stopping payments for costs that are not accompanied by a proper description and ensuring that relevant agency staff receive regular financial compliance training.
➢ The City should update its electronic procurement and invoicing systems to better enable thirdparty oversight and centralize key documentation.
This Report also reiterates many of the 23 recommendations that DOI issued in its November 2021 Report on Corruption Vulnerabilities in the City’s Oversight and Administration of Not-for-Profit Human Services. While the City has implemented some reforms since the 2021 Report and is also undertaking some work that closely tracks DOI’s recommendations, many of the recommendations from 2021 have not been implemented at any substantial level. The 2021 Report recommended, among other things, that the City:
Reform its conflict-of-interest disclosure system for the City’s human service providers.
Develop more specific guidance to agencies on executive compensation and consider setting a cap or other parameters on City-funded executive compensation.
Conduct more robust reviews of expenses that human service providers invoice to the City, including by reviewing larger samples of supporting documentation.
New York City is currently making an unprecedented financial commitment to address homelessness. For that reason, it is more important than ever that it implement stronger risk management and compliance controls around this spending. Accepting and implementing the reforms set forth in this Report, as well as in DOI’s November 2021 Report, would be critical steps in this direction.
DOI Commissioner Strauber thanks DSS Commissioner Molly Wasow Park and her staff, for their partnership on this examination and the Mayor’s Office of Contracts and Mayor’s Office of Risk Management and Compliance for their assistance.
DOI also received support from two private firms with experience in investigations, audits, and compliance monitoring, who provided auditing and investigative resources with respect to certain provider reviews.
At DOI, this examination was conducted by Deputy Inspector General/Special Counsel Daniel Kacinski and Confidential Investigator Rushelle Sharpe, with the assistance of Senior Investigative Auditor Olga Avram and Senior Investigative Attorney Alex Cane in DOI’s Office of the Inspector General for CityFunded Nonprofits. Data Analysts Anthony McDowald and Zachary Sayle and Director of Data Analytics Shyam Prasad in DOI’s Data Analytics Unit provided technical assistance. The examination was supervised 4 by Senior Inspector General Andrew Sein, Deputy Commissioner of Strategic Initiatives Christopher Ryan, and Deputy Commissioner/ Chief of Investigations Dominick Zarrella.
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doi/press-releases/2024/October/39DHSRptRelease10.17.2024.pdf
想法很好。问题是华裔这点人合在一起也没用。民主社会你连人数都没有还想变天？大部分在东西海岸是投票也改变不了。少数在红区的也是一样。在摇摆州的少数，大家因为利益也没法合在一起支持一边。说起来很好听，可惜做不到。 你还不如劝大家搬运国人入籍和多生娃。
楼主真是站着说话不腰疼。中产没时间参加政治事务就好好地给中产减轻负担啊，让child care更affordable 啊，让公立学校教育更reliable啊，减中产税让中产有更多钱请家政服务啊。像马斯克那样生多少孩子都不怕，反正只要给钱就会认爹，当然是有时间有精力去政治事务里上蹿下跳，咱中产不顾着自己那点小日子 try to make ends meet怎么办？
再说了，咱中产说话有用吗？说实话，美国领导阶级要是愿意倾听中产的话，美国根本就不会变成这样，不会陷入俄乌和以巴的财政支援无底洞而无法自拔。
候选人不行是因为选民不行。
彭斯人品可靠，当州长期间财政良好，但没人选啊。选民就喜欢极端的。