Vance: school shootings were an unfortunate “fact of life"

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brucekompas
楼主 (北美华人网)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.html
Senator JD Vance of Ohio said on Thursday that school shootings were an unfortunate “fact of life,” and he called for strengthened security measures in public schools while he spoke at a campaign event in Phoenix.
After Mr. Vance delivered remarks on border security, a reporter from CNN, who was first drowned out by booing, asked him about what he would do to prevent school shootings in light of the fatal shootings of two students and two teachers at Apalachee High School in Georgia on Wednesday.
Mr. Vance, former President Donald J. Trump’s running mate, first condemned the shooting in Georgia as “an awful tragedy” that should never have happened, and he said his thoughts and prayers were with the families.
“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.”
Mr. Vance said that he was reluctant to support increased security measures in schools but that is “increasingly the reality we live in.”
Democrats have seized upon his comments, arguing that Mr. Vance was resigned to the reality of school shootings.
“Vice President Harris and Governor Walz know we can take action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals,” Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for the campaign of Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, said in a statement. “Donald Trump and JD Vance will always choose the N.R.A. and gun lobby over our children. That is the choice in this election.”
At a speech in Portsmouth, N.H., on Wednesday, Ms. Harris addressed the Georgia school shooting. She has previously called for universal background checks and an assault weapon ban but did not call for any policy changes in her remarks.
“We’ve got to stop it, and we have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all,” she said. “You know it doesn’t have to be this way.”
Mr. Trump has in the past encouraged the public to move on from mass shootings. After a shooting in a high school in Perry, Iowa, resulted in three deaths in January, Mr. Trump told an audience of supporters they have to “move forward.”
“It’s just horrible, so surprising to see it here,” he said. “But have to get over it — we have to move forward.”
Chris Cameron contributed reporting.
好贱的一个人。。。 慢着,他真的是人吗?也许是妖怪?
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Mediterranean
Trump的评论更狠:we have to get over it 家里有娃的民主党、共和党、中间派,get over yourself, vote blue
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annaide

it is hard to trust when msm keeps lying. 自己发布假新闻,被指责再删了,但假narrative继续被疯狂传播。See community notes。对了之前说恐怖主义是fact of life是哪位?
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annaide
Mediterranean 发表于 2024-09-06 07:13
Trump的评论更狠:we have to get over it 家里有娃的民主党、共和党、中间派,get over yourself, vote blue

别上头了,你发个Trump评论截图,省得让人觉得你是blatant liar。
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shaohuacrystal
我气的想扇他一巴掌。不是应该加强枪支管理吗?
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Mediterranean
annaide 发表于 2024-09-06 07:17

it is hard to trust when msm keeps lying. 自己发布假新闻,被指责再删了,但假narrative继续被疯狂传播。See community notes。对了之前说恐怖主义是fact of life是哪位?

别洗了,他的意思就是很清楚:虽然我不喜欢,但我也不会去控枪,因为这就是生活。当然,不如川普直白:get over it
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pinkymania
人渣
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annaide
别洗了,他的意思就是很清楚:虽然我不喜欢,但我也不会去控枪,因为这就是生活。当然,不如川普直白:get over it
Mediterranean 发表于 2024-09-06 07:25

AP还知道羞耻自己把新闻标题都改了,也不敢疯狂地fake unsaid words, 你这么说随便吧。 https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-georgia-shooting-7d7727a1aff8491f66914a4d8a14cd8c JD Vance says he laments that school shootings are a ‘fact of life’ and calls for better security
PHOENIX (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life” and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia.
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Mediterranean
别上头了,你发个Trump评论截图,省得让人觉得你是blatant liar。
annaide 发表于 2024-09-06 07:22

找到一个之前Iowa shooting视频在此,他说这话时真是一脸轻松。get over it和it is what it is这些话是他经常用的。你可以换个角度接着洗:balabala他不是这个意思,他是为了安慰受害者,云云。
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王力宏
哪个mass shooting 是immigrants 干的,是cat lady干的。
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westlake
annaide 发表于 2024-09-06 07:30
AP还知道羞耻自己把新闻标题都改了,也不敢疯狂地fake unsaid words, 你这么说随便吧。 https://apnews.com/article/jd-vance-georgia-shooting-7d7727a1aff8491f66914a4d8a14cd8c JD Vance says he laments that school shootings are a ‘fact of life’ and calls for better security
PHOENIX (AP) — Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life” and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia.

有啥好洗的呢?就是宁可把孩子关在笼子里也要维护精神病和杀人犯杀人的无上权利,对吧?
是不是也要祝愿一下你家孩子也早日直面被杀的现实?
木瓜瓜
That is totally horse crap!! He probably think people are all idiots without brain!
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coalpilerd
当年的总统说要把恐袭当常态,现在的总统候选人这是要把mass shooting当常态的节奏?
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westlake
coalpilerd 发表于 2024-09-06 07:51
当年的总统说要把恐袭当常态,现在的总统候选人这是要把mass shooting当常态的节奏?

好奇当年哪个总统说恐袭当做常态,咱们也来看看上下文好不好?
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laohua001
回复 1楼 brucekompas 的帖子
应该改成。fact of fate 更准确
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monofaye
Vance said "“I don’t like that this is a fact of life, We have got to bolster security in our schools.”
MSM twisted as "This is a fact of life"
Great job, MSM. the Trump hater will hate more, and continue to trust whatever fit in their own thinking



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transient
别吵了。总结一下就是Vance死活不会控枪。
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Lemm
总结一下就是:宁肯娃死,也不控枪!
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shaohuacrystal
Lemm 发表于 2024-09-06 08:39
总结一下就是:宁肯娃死,也不控枪!

就是,我都要气哭了!JD是三个孩子的父亲,但他视孩子们的生命如草叶垃圾。大家努力💪,一定不要让他当副总统!
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westlake
monofaye 发表于 2024-09-06 08:17
Vance said "“I don’t like that this is a fact of life, We have got to bolster security in our schools.”
MSM twisted as "This is a fact of life"
Great job, MSM. the Trump hater will hate more, and continue to trust whatever fit in their own thinking




他已经define了this is a fact of life,其它喜欢不喜欢有啥区别呢
他还不喜欢childless cat lady呢,这些ladies也没有马上就倒地毙命啊
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bbhappy
回复 23楼 westlake 的帖子
Calling Mass shootings “fact of life” is not an opinion, it is fact as shootings happen like every year. “ Not like the fact” meaning he wants do something about it : increase security …. Well we know banning all guns in US is misssion impossible.
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jc255
monofaye 发表于 2024-09-06 08:17
Vance said "“I don’t like that this is a fact of life, We have got to bolster security in our schools.”
MSM twisted as "This is a fact of life"
Great job, MSM. the Trump hater will hate more, and continue to trust whatever fit in their own thinking




这两个是一个意思。我不喜欢,但这是fact of life。
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Mediterranean
bbhappy 发表于 2024-09-06 08:52
回复 23楼 westlake 的帖子
Calling Mass shootings “fact of life” is not an opinion, it is fact as shootings happen like every year. “ Not like the fact” meaning he wants do something about it : increase security …. Well we know banning all guns in US is misssion impossible.

控枪怎么不可能?AR15禁令怎么不可能?除了被NRA买通的共和党政客说不可能,还有谁说不可能?事实是:这帮政客不仅不进一步restrict ,还要进一步放松。
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minqidev
jc255 发表于 2024-09-06 08:53
这两个是一个意思。我不喜欢,但这是fact of life。

大意是: 我不想说这就是生活,因为我们更应该提高学校的安全措施. 问题是,怎么提高?? 每个人都穿防弹衣? 每个老师都配枪?
学校都变成这个样?
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claireliu
minqidev 发表于 2024-09-06 09:45
大意是: 我不想说这就是生活,因为我们更应该提高学校的安全措施. 问题是,怎么提高?? 每个人都穿防弹衣? 每个老师都配枪?
学校都变成这个样?

这图真是讽刺,付总统候选人要站在防弹玻璃后面讲话,美国连总统都保护不了,还管得了学生吗。美国现在是战区吗。
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lovewriting123
Lemm 发表于 2024-09-06 08:39
总结一下就是:宁肯娃死,也不控枪!

谁能把他的三个娃给biu 了然后再把他给biu了。 他这个繁殖癌肯定还会再生,为了避免他再生直接把他给毙了 让他体验一下痛苦
其实并不是很在乎他的印度老婆和三个非纯白人孩子 虽然他长得是白人bottom 1%,矮胖丑 但是自认为帅的不行
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lovewriting123
那个monofye 我好像猜到她是谁了。。。王菲铁粉。 德州某个退伍老兵的白人老婆。生了混血龙凤胎。 铁杆共和党。龙凤双胞胎。自家生意是买防弹衣和防弹书包的。在德州Katy 群里面卖的风生水起的。她自然希望人手一把枪越乱越好。
木牛流马
fuck him
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MissWeiWei
shaohuacrystal 发表于 2024-09-06 08:42
就是,我都要气哭了!JD是三个孩子的父亲,但他视孩子们的生命如草叶垃圾。大家努力💪,一定不要让他当副总统!

他孩子很小,他已经被爆出来在家对他们吼F word. 他这种红脖子,就是生一堆,任其自生自灭的,他自己就是这么长大的。他的理想社会就是这样的,女人不重要,孩子也不重要。
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westlake
Mediterranean 发表于 2024-09-06 09:09
控枪怎么不可能?AR15禁令怎么不可能?除了被NRA买通的共和党政客说不可能,还有谁说不可能?事实是:这帮政客不仅不进一步restrict ,还要进一步放松。

唯一的不可能是因为川普和Vance都收了NRA足够的钱,他们不可能去对付自己的金主。但是,美国是美国人民的,不是总统副总统两个人的,他们两个人的利益和美国人的利益冲突,对不起,YOU ARE FIRED!
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yummy_agpr
Mediterranean 发表于 2024-09-06 07:25
别洗了,他的意思就是很清楚:虽然我不喜欢,但我也不会去控枪,因为这就是生活。当然,不如川普直白:get over it

JD Vance说的是“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” 到了左媒口里就是JD Vance说this is a fact of life. 控枪不控枪的policy可以debate.但是要故意把他的话掐头去尾来mislead别人就是人品问题了。
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pathdream
鼠食
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Ertou
就让贱民get used to this fact of life吗? 妈的道德底线都没有的烂人
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meftw
Fact个屁。全世界也就美国发生的事情算个啥fact. 这人是不是连fact的定义都不知道,美国领导人这种智商呵呵了,所谓将熊熊一窝。
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meftw
claireliu 发表于 2024-09-06 10:32
这图真是讽刺,付总统候选人要站在防弹玻璃后面讲话,美国连总统都保护不了,还管得了学生吗。美国现在是战区吗。

就是战区。我早就说了美国是战区华人大妈说我咋不离开美国,逻辑混乱的不行
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Mediterranean
yummy_agpr 发表于 2024-09-06 17:30
JD Vance说的是“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” 到了左媒口里就是JD Vance说this is a fact of life. 控枪不控枪的policy可以debate.但是要故意把他的话掐头去尾来mislead别人就是人品问题了。

可拉倒吧,回头你去因事故丧生的别人家葬礼上也说同样的话"I do not like that it is a fact of life" ,看看会不会被赶出来。
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CloudY7764
那他自己为什么要防弹玻璃。没什么好怕的get over it 就行了。
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drower
yummy_agpr 发表于 2024-09-06 17:30
JD Vance说的是“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” 到了左媒口里就是JD Vance说this is a fact of life. 控枪不控枪的policy可以debate.但是要故意把他的话掐头去尾来mislead别人就是人品问题了。

你是真傻还是装傻?他说这话意思就是你要接受啊 喜不喜欢你都要接受啊,为啥我要接受?不能改变吗?是不是人啊。自己讲个话还要搞防弹玻璃,是多害怕老百姓啊,这就是dictator的特色
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burneremaiI
yummy_agpr 发表于 2024-09-06 17:30
JD Vance说的是“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” 到了左媒口里就是JD Vance说this is a fact of life. 控枪不控枪的policy可以debate.但是要故意把他的话掐头去尾来mislead别人就是人品问题了。

左媒起码是川粉眼里的白人 你一个黄种人有什么资格诠释万总的英文?
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Bmhr01233210
所以哪来那么大的脸嘲笑印度?至少人家那里女医生被强暴之后引起了全国游行,所在州也被舆论迫使把强奸犯最高刑期改成死刑。而这边呢?14岁的孩子大白天在学校里拿着冲锋枪大开杀戒,害死了那么多无辜的老师和孩子,人们都司空见惯麻木不仁,连蜡烛都不点了,还有人说fact of life,还能更魔幻一点不?
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gokgs
JD vance is an idiot, period.
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Fhu
Ertou 发表于 2024-09-06 17:47
就让贱民get used to this fact of life吗? 妈的道德底线都没有的烂人

谁叫你不是high status male呢?自然没有在防弹玻璃后说话的特权
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Harenough
当然Vance说了it is a fact of life, 他不喜欢,但他认为这就是 a fact of life 啊, 还要怎么理解?
川普也要受害者 get over. 川粉该大力骗解这就是fact of life, 的确该 get over ,说1000遍就有人信了。
而不是辩解川普和Vance不是这个意思,方向都没对。
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Silong06
bbhappy 发表于 2024-09-06 08:52
回复 23楼 westlake 的帖子
Calling Mass shootings “fact of life” is not an opinion, it is fact as shootings happen like every year. “ Not like the fact” meaning he wants do something about it : increase security …. Well we know banning all guns in US is misssion impossible.

mission impossible? 问题是试都不想试一下,完全同意这个fact 是美国人生活的一部分,学生每个月做逃生演习也是生活的一部分,去学校之前要和父母say goodbye 也许是最后一面,也是生活的一部分。我不想我的孩子在学校要担心被枪杀。我不会投票给这些不愿尝试保护儿童的政客。