请教税务问题:成为美国税务居民之前的capital gain,需要给美国交税吗?

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Grace302
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成为美国税务居民之前,开的一个中国股票账户,很多年都没有交易了。
如果把股票卖了,capital gain该怎么算呢?
举例说,股票原始购买价格, 一万美元。 成为美国税务居民的时候,股票价值两万美元(这个在第一年报税,申报海外账户时候,已经报了)。 现在卖掉,卖出价三万美元。
那么, 我的capital gain,是两万美元呢(卖出价 - 购买价)? 还是一万美元 (卖出价 - 成为美国税务居民时候的股票价值)?
请懂行的大侠指教,非常感谢。
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Grace302
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成为税务居民不会拿到stepped up basis, 也就是说成本不变。按2万申报capital gain。这个问题无数人问过。
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SeptemberCat 发表于 2024-09-05 09:22
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成为税务居民不会拿到stepped up basis, 也就是说成本不变。按2万申报capital gain。这个问题无数人问过。

非常感谢您的回复。
我问了以下claude,好像说的和您不一样。 To answer your question accurately, we need to consider a few key points:
1. Cost basis adjustment: When you become a U.S. tax resident, you typically get a "step-up" in basis for your foreign stocks. This means your cost basis is adjusted to the fair market value of the stocks on the date you became a U.S. tax resident.
2. Capital gains calculation: When you eventually sell the stocks, you'll only pay capital gains tax on the increase in value that occurred after you became a U.S. tax resident.
3. No immediate tax: You don't have to pay any capital gains tax just for becoming a U.S. tax resident. The tax is only triggered when you sell the stocks.
Given these points, here's the answer to your specific question:
You do not have to pay capital gains tax on the value increase that occurred before you became a U.S. tax resident. You will only be taxed on any gains that occur after your U.S. residency began.
For example: - If you bought the stock for $1000 - It was worth $1500 when you became a U.S. resident - You later sell it for $2000
You would only pay capital gains tax on the $500 increase that happened after you became a U.S. resident ($2000 - $1500), not on the entire $1000 gain since you first purchased the stock.
It's important to document the fair market value of your stocks on the date you became a U.S. tax resident, as this will be crucial for accurately calculating your capital gains when you eventually sell.
Would you like me to elaborate on any part of this explanation or discuss related topics, such as how to determine your U.S. tax residency date or how to report foreign financial assets?
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Grace302
From claude:
Yes, you generally do get a stepped-up basis when you become a U.S. tax resident. This is often referred to as a "step-up in basis" or "basis step-up." Here are the key points to understand:
1. Stepped-up basis: The cost basis of your foreign stocks is typically adjusted (stepped up) to their fair market value on the date you become a U.S. tax resident.
2. Purpose: This step-up in basis is designed to ensure that you're not taxed by the U.S. on appreciation that occurred before you became subject to U.S. tax laws.
3. Application: This applies to most capital assets, including stocks, bonds, real estate, and other investments held outside the U.S.
4. Documentation: It's crucial to document the fair market value of your assets on the date you become a U.S. tax resident. This will be important for future tax calculations.
5. Exceptions: There are some exceptions to this rule, particularly for assets in certain types of foreign trusts or for individuals who were previously U.S. citizens or long-term residents who expatriated.
6. Practical effect: When you eventually sell the asset, you'll only pay capital gains tax on the appreciation that occurred after you became a U.S. tax resident.
It's important to note that tax laws can be complex and may change. Additionally, the specific rules can vary depending on your individual circumstances, the types of assets you hold, and any tax treaties between the U.S. and your previous country of residence.
Given the complexity of international tax issues, it's often advisable to consult with a tax professional who specializes in international taxation to ensure you're correctly applying these rules to your specific situation.
Would you like me to elaborate on any aspect of the stepped-up basis, or discuss related topics such as how to determine your U.S. tax residency date or how to report your foreign assets to the IRS?
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Grace302
ai说的 有道理吗? 继续请问。