中国游泳第一金,100米飞鱼大战!潘展乐金牌!破世界记录!

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handylady
helloterran4 发表于 2024-08-01 01:42
你也太高估美国人的下限了
fbi已经传唤了wada主席,国会也开呃自己的调查。菲尔普斯就是去国会污蔑中国运动员的
fbi已经公开宣布正在考虑从法国引渡中国游泳队
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html

真把自己当颗葱了。。。
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nomorewaiting
这个女解说很嘈!黄健翔style的乱叫变成了一种解说风格就很烦
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jogging66
回复 1楼 ksun 的帖子
游泳很讲究技巧。 有技巧的运动,中国人人种没有劣势。这就是为什么刘翔的跨栏运动比较好。

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ksun
也是,我看说徐嘉余仰泳厉害是因为他的道边转身很牛逼,然后别人学不会。导致到现在都没有人可以接他的班。
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feifeiblue
handylady 发表于 2024-08-01 01:41
人家是前世界冠军赵菁,今年中国游泳队这么憋屈她身在这个圈子里心情肯定不一样,我其实挺能共情的,听到最后她的嘶吼都有点热泪盈眶

赵菁这场激动是可以理解的,就是她有时候有点怎么说呢,可能是为了鼓励,不顾事实。 今天有一场也是,她给香港何诗蓓喊加油,一个劲儿的喊,原话我忘了,类似于你是领先的你是第一位加油这种话,可是屏幕上显示出来的leader并不是何。。当时应该是第二。昨天有一场也这样。 虽然理解她在喊加油。。但是作为观众,就觉得还是严谨点儿好一点。何况到最后,如果何不是第一名,还以为中间被反超了什么的,感觉更遗憾啊。
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purelifemei
回复 700楼 feifeiblue 的帖子
前面看其他比赛,她就只会一直喊“顶住,顶住”,说不出个东西来,害我只好静音
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feifeiblue
purelifemei 发表于 2024-08-01 02:04
回复 700楼 feifeiblue 的帖子
前面看其他比赛,她就只会一直喊“顶住,顶住”,说不出个东西来,害我只好静音

她超high的,初初一开口就高八度的声音。就是我作为观众还没开始激动,她就已经非常激动了。 听了好几天,到潘展乐这场我已经非常适应了。。这场特适合她哈哈。
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feifeiblue
purelifemei 发表于 2024-08-01 02:04
回复 700楼 feifeiblue 的帖子
前面看其他比赛,她就只会一直喊“顶住,顶住”,说不出个东西来,害我只好静音

这几年我没怎么看过比赛,其实都不知道赵菁这号人物。
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jiajia2018
wait_6737 发表于 2024-08-01 00:27
老查赛后采访对小潘评价挺好的,应该就是用实力说话吧。 https://7news.com.au/sport/olympics/kyle-chalmers-says-he-has-faith-that-olympic-rival-pan-zhanle-was-clean-in-100m-freestyle-final-c-15550195

这些人属于很典型的白人,不想给媒体抓到把柄不好看。
那个富豪网球女属于智商不够才大放厥词的。
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micheer
太牛了!而且看采访他好可爱。
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jiajia2018
helloterran4 发表于 2024-08-01 01:42
你也太高估美国人的下限了
fbi已经传唤了wada主席,国会也开呃自己的调查。菲尔普斯就是去国会污蔑中国运动员的
fbi已经公开宣布正在考虑从法国引渡中国游泳队
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html

要不要脸啊
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territerri
kaisa 发表于 2024-07-31 17:19
还说了美国队训练的时候也给他们难堪。非常有血气的男生,看着太解气了。说完之后问这能说吗,哈哈。

果然是英雄少年气概,就是要说,没什么不敢的。做坏事的是他们
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zzheart
太赞啦!
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generalB
handylady 发表于 2024-08-01 01:30
前阵子就被公司里一个新来的混血华男坑了一把

父系华男还好,母亲是华人abc最容易歧视华人,儿子一般随爹的世界观
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木牛流马 发表于 2024-07-31 21:27
方力申采访视频好像还没上YouTube 这个是小红书上的
15 MARKO发布了一篇小红书笔记,快来看吧! 😆 JmFE3wuwz1dOyfx 😆 http://xhslink.com/yTG4zR,复制本条信息,打开【小红书】App查看精彩内容!


太感谢了 看完了 自己去搜没有搜到
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territerri
渔非凡 发表于 2024-08-01 00:26
回复 643楼 木牛流马 的帖子
潘是在这次奥运之前说的话吗?看来本来很粉这几个名将。
这个查尔莫斯,颁奖的时候表情特别有意思,登上领奖台后多次侧头看潘,看起来像是想搭话,小潘没理他。大概就是又不服气又有点佩服的尴尬感觉吧。波波维奇倒是看起来落落大方,他是唯一一个上了领奖台后回身和小潘和查握手的

看起这个波波是个很有可能教养的人
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lovejames
generalB 发表于 2024-08-01 03:00
父系华男还好,母亲是华人abc最容易歧视华人,儿子一般随爹的世界观

有道理 心理学上也容易解释。
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handylady
wait_6737 发表于 2024-08-01 00:27
老查赛后采访对小潘评价挺好的,应该就是用实力说话吧。 https://7news.com.au/sport/olympics/kyle-chalmers-says-he-has-faith-that-olympic-rival-pan-zhanle-was-clean-in-100m-freestyle-final-c-15550195

不用帮他说话了,他ins都点赞内涵潘的帖子了
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handylady
gvcc 发表于 2024-07-31 23:02
出国那么久了,白人什么德性大家心理还没数吗?你弱的时候,他们DEI上身,show各种同情和kindness。你强到超越他们的时候,他们salty和sour grape马上搬到明面上。

Exactly
上好佳无袖Tank
purelifemei 发表于 2024-08-01 02:04
回复 700楼 feifeiblue 的帖子
前面看其他比赛,她就只会一直喊“顶住,顶住”,说不出个东西来,害我只好静音

拿过冠军也不适合解说,文化差了点也不做功课,专业的事还得专业人士来做,央视的杨健,看人家的解说,真是享受把看比赛的气氛更推一层楼,这个可到好。。
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baohu_suk
回复 126楼 艾薇兰琪 的帖子
很喜欢他的采访!竟说大实话了!
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baohu_suk
其实游泳这玩意,我觉得黄皮肤人这么纤细这么灵敏,按道理应该比又粗又壮的白人游的快吧
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lovejames
记得周雅菲解说就很好。
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baohu_suk
回复 197楼 habibi 的帖子
大体感觉东北人就是旱鸭子,从小没有那个环境。除了大连的能好些?
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Cath226
Qshdz 发表于 2024-07-31 17:05
Phelps在peacock采访说这个是unheard of, not sure how to think about this, it's almost 45 second. 语气里有觉得我门可能吃药。这个我听了很不爽,当时他们也是这么怀疑孙杨的(虽然他真的是暴力抗法)。

我前两天这么说了一下菲鱼。 一堆人教育我菲没吃药 哈哈哈 看看菲鱼怎么说别人
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Cath226 发表于 2024-08-01 04:49
我前两天这么说了一下菲鱼。 一堆人教育我菲没吃药 哈哈哈 看看菲鱼怎么说别人

我绝对相信老菲肯定也有吃药
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Cath226
Greenface 发表于 2024-07-31 17:49
要不然有个词叫:年少轻狂 呢,很多人年轻时候都这样过来的,能理解。他这是赢了,有狂的资本。网球那个输了还狂,就被骂死了

他说的是事实 只不过比较直接罢了 网球富二代说别人ruthless是扯淡 这跟输赢毫无关系 只不过网球富二代输了能让对手更有风度一笑而过
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summerline
年轻一代真的不一样! 没有自恨和那么多反思内耗。 祝游泳队越来越好!
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Cath226
我喜欢帅哥 发表于 2024-08-01 04:56
我绝对相信老菲肯定也有吃药

我可不敢这么说 只是他成绩太好了 “我不确定该怎么想这件事”
wait_6737 发表于 2024-08-01 00:38
因为老查赛后采访里说了,“在最后15米,我以为我肯定是最后一名,因为他抛离了我很远。"。 澳洲人比较真性情,你用硬实力打败他,他就会服气。

并没有 澳洲游泳巨头在ins上直接说小潘的成绩是不可能的,肯定有问题
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feifeiblue 发表于 2024-08-01 02:03
赵菁这场激动是可以理解的,就是她有时候有点怎么说呢,可能是为了鼓励,不顾事实。 今天有一场也是,她给香港何诗蓓喊加油,一个劲儿的喊,原话我忘了,类似于你是领先的你是第一位加油这种话,可是屏幕上显示出来的leader并不是何。。当时应该是第二。昨天有一场也这样。 虽然理解她在喊加油。。但是作为观众,就觉得还是严谨点儿好一点。何况到最后,如果何不是第一名,还以为中间被反超了什么的,感觉更遗憾啊。

这几天看了几场,赵菁主要问题是作为专业人士干货太少或者表达能力欠佳,净说空话废话。以前看过吴鹏和焦刘洋做嘉宾的都好很多,从技术解读到行业动态方面。
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tj9981
helloterran4 发表于 2024-08-01 01:42
你也太高估美国人的下限了
fbi已经传唤了wada主席,国会也开呃自己的调查。菲尔普斯就是去国会污蔑中国运动员的
fbi已经公开宣布正在考虑从法国引渡中国游泳队
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html

又来造谣:你说“Fbi已经公开宣布正在考虑从法国引渡中国游泳队”,这是彻头彻尾的谣言,你看过你自己引用的报纸文章吗???这里面没有一个词提到FBI要去法国引渡中国游泳队,相反,这个调查主要就是针对WADA和相关国际运动委员会当初是如何处理中国23个阳性案例的。 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html
报纸文章全文,这是楼上ID造谣的证据
F.B.I. and Justice Department Open Criminal Investigation in Chinese Doping Case The move escalates a fight with China and world antidoping officials, and will cast a shadow over the Paris Olympics.
Michael S. SchmidtTariq Panja By Michael S. Schmidt and Tariq Panja July 4, 2024
The F.B.I. and Justice Department have opened a criminal investigation into how antidoping authorities and sports officials allowed elite Chinese swimmers who had tested positive for a banned substance to escape punishment and win a slew of medals — including three golds — at the last Olympics, according to two people briefed on the matter and swimming’s international governing body.
The decision to move forward with a criminal investigation is a dramatic escalation by the United States against the Chinese, world antidoping authorities and the Olympic movement, and will mean the shadow of an F.B.I. investigation will hang over the Summer Games, which are scheduled to begin later this month in Paris.
Eleven of the swimmers who tested positive — and who have never been suspended for doping — are again members of the Chinese Olympic team. Several are favorites to win medals in Paris.
The disclosure about the investigation comes a little more than two months after The New York Times revealed that the World Anti-Doping Agency and Chinese antidoping authorities had declined to discipline 23 elite Chinese swimmers who tested positive for a banned drug in early 2021. The decisions not to suspend the athletes and to keep the positive tests secret paved the way for the swimmers to compete and win medals at the Games in Tokyo.
The Times reported that the F.B.I. had learned in the past year about the positive tests and the decision to clear the athletes of wrongdoing and that federal investigators had taken steps in recent weeks to learn more about what occurred. But it was unclear if a full criminal investigation into the matter had begun.
Last month, when the executive director of the international governing body for swimming, World Aquatics, was in the United States for the U.S. Olympic trials in Indianapolis, federal investigators approached him to discuss how the positive tests were handled, according to two people briefed on the matter. Those people declined to be identified while discussing an ongoing investigation.
It is unclear what the swimming body’s executive director, Brent Nowicki, told the authorities in their interaction. Mr. Nowicki moved into his post in June 2021, a few days before Chinese authorities informed the World Anti-Doping Agency and World Aquatics that it had decided not treat the positive tests as doping violations.
As part of his dealings with the investigators, Mr. Nowicki was given a grand jury subpoena, according to a statement from World Aquatics.
“World Aquatics can confirm that its executive director, Brent Nowicki, was served with a witness subpoena by the United States government,” World Aquatics said. “He is working to schedule a meeting with the government, which, in all likelihood will obviate the need for testimony before a grand jury.”
The Associated Press first reported the statement from World Aquatics on Thursday.
Other evidence has emerged that officials at the World Anti-Doping Agency, known as WADA, are aware of ongoing law enforcement action directed at them by the American authorities. Late last month, WADA canceled a meeting it was scheduled to have in the United States later this year with other antidoping authorities and sports officials.
On a call to announce the cancellation of the meeting, a WADA official said that among the reasons it was being canceled was that the organization’s leaders did not want to travel to the United States because of an ongoing federal law enforcement investigation, according to Travis Tygart, the head of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. Mr. Tygart — who has been one of WADA’s most outspoken critics — was not on the call but one of his deputies was, he said.
The federal investigation is being conducted, partly, by prosecutors and F.B.I. agents in Boston, according to two people briefed on the matter. The authorities have interviewed at least two witnesses, according to the two people.
In a statement, WADA said it was “disappointed to learn that the U.S. Department of Justice is now investigating” the positive tests, adding that it “has not received any contact or request from U.S. law enforcement.”
Similar to its posture since April when it was first forced to publicly defend its decision not to discipline the swimmers, WADA said it had done nothing wrong and that its decision was supported by scientific and legal experts.
The escalation in the case represents perhaps the most significant investigation into a doping offense since the United States passed legislation known as the Rodchenkov Act in 2020, criminalizing doping in elite-level international sporting events wherever they take place. The investigation would be the first time U.S. authorities have focused on an international sports body under the act. WADA has been a critic of the new law since it was first proposed, arguing that criminalizing doping in one country would compromise WADA’s efforts to maintain one set of rules for sports everywhere.
In its statement, WADA raised questions about the United States involvement in investigating a matter that occurred beyond its borders.
“The public reports about this investigation validate the concerns expressed broadly by the international community about the passage of the Rodchenkov Act, under which the United States purports to exercise extraterritorial criminal jurisdiction over participants in the global antidoping system,” the statement said.
At the heart of the issue in the swimming case is the fact that the World Anti-Doping Agency agreed with China’s contention that the positive tests for the banned substance — a prescription heart medication — were the result of a “mass contamination event.” But some other antidoping experts and authorities found the claim highly dubious and charged that the lack of punishments and public identification of the athletes suggested a massive coverup.
In response, Congress in May called on the F.B.I. to open an investigation and congressional committees began their own investigations, including holding a hearing last week where Michael Phelps, the most decorated swimmer in Olympic history, testified about the need for accountability.
Antidoping officials at WADA have scrambled to protect the organization’s reputation and defended its handling of the case since news of the 23 cases was first made public. They have held numerous meetings with concerned groups, including hundreds of athletes and national antidoping bodies. Those efforts have failed to allay many of the concerns, and WADA is yet to publish any of the information it relied on to make its original decision.
A report from an independent prosecutor hired by WADA to investigate its decision making is set to be released before the Olympics. Even that might not be enough to stem the controversy before the start of the Games amid concerns over the independence of the Swiss official hired for the job.
Officials at World Swimming were keen to stress that they were asked to provide information as witnesses and were not being heard as targets of the federal investigation. WADA declined to comment.
The stakes and timing of an American investigation are particularly high given the country’s relationship with the International Olympic Committee. Los Angeles will host the next Summer Olympics after Paris, in 2028, while Salt Lake City was given preferred bidder status by the I.O.C. in bidding for the 2034 Winter Games.
Michael S. Schmidt is an investigative reporter for The Times covering Washington. His work focuses on tracking and explaining high-profile federal investigations. More about Michael S. Schmidt
Tariq Panja is a global sports correspondent, focusing on stories where money, geopolitics and crime intersect with the sports world. More about Tariq Panja
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悬 发表于 2024-08-01 05:26
并没有 澳洲游泳巨头在ins上直接说小潘的成绩是不可能的,肯定有问题

那是他教练说的,不过后来老查点赞了。 老查赛后采访说的挺好的,这个点赞确实让人大跌眼镜。
对aussie有什么期望吗?他们的运动精神还不如美国,歧视也比美国更厉害。那个澳洲教练的ins评论有的就是赤裸裸的种族歧视,美国人说那种话都要看看周围有没有人那种。
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wait_6737
悬 发表于 2024-08-01 06:45
对aussie有什么期望吗?他们的运动精神还不如美国,歧视也比美国更厉害。那个澳洲教练的ins评论有的就是赤裸裸的种族歧视,美国人说那种话都要看看周围有没有人那种。

那倒没有,美国澳洲半斤八两,都不是好东西。
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Sunnyday19
玻璃心的老外,替他们害臊啊,白长了一副好皮囊,输不起啊
渔非凡
上好佳无袖Tank 发表于 2024-08-01 04:10
拿过冠军也不适合解说,文化差了点也不做功课,专业的事还得专业人士来做,央视的杨健,看人家的解说,真是享受把看比赛的气氛更推一层楼,这个可到好。。

这种专业嘉宾是来帮忙解答一些专业问题的,一般还是主解说说话。这个女嘉宾说不出什么,就喜欢瞎吼,乱加油,喧宾夺主,喊得听不清男主持在说什么,她的嘴肯定靠话筒特别近。男主持虽然也激动,但是人家声调控制得很好,而且一直到最后都言之有物,就是可惜被女的尖叫声掩盖住了。赶紧把女的开除
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ruoyi66
恭喜,恭喜
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Geofan
wait_6737 发表于 2024-08-01 01:02
是老查,因为那时还看不起小潘,赛后彻底服了。 老查比美国那个故意往教练身上溅水的运动员强多了,看不起就不理你,赢了就主动来握手服你,也没太过分。

老查赛后评论太可爱了,说了自己为了追上去,感觉要死了
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hijklmn
tj9981 发表于 2024-08-01 05:45
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html
报纸文章全文,这是楼上ID造谣的证据
F.B.I. and Justice Department Open Criminal Investigation in Chinese Doping Case The move escalates a fight with China and world antidoping officials, and will cast a shadow over the Paris Olympics.
Michael S. SchmidtTariq Panja By Michael S. Schmidt and Tariq Panja July 4, 2024
The F.B.I. and Justice Department have opened a criminal investigation into how antidoping authorities and sports officials allowed elite Chinese swimmers who had tested positive for a banned substance to escape punishment and win a slew of medals — including three golds — at the last Olympics, according to two people briefed on the matter and swimming’s international governing body.
The decision to move forward with a criminal investigation is a dramatic escalation by the United States against the Chinese, world antidoping authorities and the Olympic movement, and will mean the shadow of an F.B.I. investigation will hang over the Summer Games, which are scheduled to begin later this month in Paris.
Eleven of the swimmers who tested positive — and who have never been suspended for doping — are again members of the Chinese Olympic team. Several are favorites to win medals in Paris.
The disclosure about the investigation comes a little more than two months after The New York Times revealed that the World Anti-Doping Agency and Chinese antidoping authorities had declined to discipline 23 elite Chinese swimmers who tested positive for a banned drug in early 2021. The decisions not to suspend the athletes and to keep the positive tests secret paved the way for the swimmers to compete and win medals at the Games in Tokyo.
The Times reported that the F.B.I. had learned in the past year about the positive tests and the decision to clear the athletes of wrongdoing and that federal investigators had taken steps in recent weeks to learn more about what occurred. But it was unclear if a full criminal investigation into the matter had begun.
Last month, when the executive director of the international governing body for swimming, World Aquatics, was in the United States for the U.S. Olympic trials in Indianapolis, federal investigators approached him to discuss how the positive tests were handled, according to two people briefed on the matter. Those people declined to be identified while discussing an ongoing investigation.
It is unclear what the swimming body’s executive director, Brent Nowicki, told the authorities in their interaction. Mr. Nowicki moved into his post in June 2021, a few days before Chinese authorities informed the World Anti-Doping Agency and World Aquatics that it had decided not treat the positive tests as doping violations.
As part of his dealings with the investigators, Mr. Nowicki was given a grand jury subpoena, according to a statement from World Aquatics.
“World Aquatics can confirm that its executive director, Brent Nowicki, was served with a witness subpoena by the United States government,” World Aquatics said. “He is working to schedule a meeting with the government, which, in all likelihood will obviate the need for testimony before a grand jury.”
The Associated Press first reported the statement from World Aquatics on Thursday.
Other evidence has emerged that officials at the World Anti-Doping Agency, known as WADA, are aware of ongoing law enforcement action directed at them by the American authorities. Late last month, WADA canceled a meeting it was scheduled to have in the United States later this year with other antidoping authorities and sports officials.
On a call to announce the cancellation of the meeting, a WADA official said that among the reasons it was being canceled was that the organization’s leaders did not want to travel to the United States because of an ongoing federal law enforcement investigation, according to Travis Tygart, the head of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. Mr. Tygart — who has been one of WADA’s most outspoken critics — was not on the call but one of his deputies was, he said.
The federal investigation is being conducted, partly, by prosecutors and F.B.I. agents in Boston, according to two people briefed on the matter. The authorities have interviewed at least two witnesses, according to the two people.
In a statement, WADA said it was “disappointed to learn that the U.S. Department of Justice is now investigating” the positive tests, adding that it “has not received any contact or request from U.S. law enforcement.”
Similar to its posture since April when it was first forced to publicly defend its decision not to discipline the swimmers, WADA said it had done nothing wrong and that its decision was supported by scientific and legal experts.
The escalation in the case represents perhaps the most significant investigation into a doping offense since the United States passed legislation known as the Rodchenkov Act in 2020, criminalizing doping in elite-level international sporting events wherever they take place. The investigation would be the first time U.S. authorities have focused on an international sports body under the act. WADA has been a critic of the new law since it was first proposed, arguing that criminalizing doping in one country would compromise WADA’s efforts to maintain one set of rules for sports everywhere.
In its statement, WADA raised questions about the United States involvement in investigating a matter that occurred beyond its borders.
“The public reports about this investigation validate the concerns expressed broadly by the international community about the passage of the Rodchenkov Act, under which the United States purports to exercise extraterritorial criminal jurisdiction over participants in the global antidoping system,” the statement said.
At the heart of the issue in the swimming case is the fact that the World Anti-Doping Agency agreed with China’s contention that the positive tests for the banned substance — a prescription heart medication — were the result of a “mass contamination event.” But some other antidoping experts and authorities found the claim highly dubious and charged that the lack of punishments and public identification of the athletes suggested a massive coverup.
In response, Congress in May called on the F.B.I. to open an investigation and congressional committees began their own investigations, including holding a hearing last week where Michael Phelps, the most decorated swimmer in Olympic history, testified about the need for accountability.
Antidoping officials at WADA have scrambled to protect the organization’s reputation and defended its handling of the case since news of the 23 cases was first made public. They have held numerous meetings with concerned groups, including hundreds of athletes and national antidoping bodies. Those efforts have failed to allay many of the concerns, and WADA is yet to publish any of the information it relied on to make its original decision.
A report from an independent prosecutor hired by WADA to investigate its decision making is set to be released before the Olympics. Even that might not be enough to stem the controversy before the start of the Games amid concerns over the independence of the Swiss official hired for the job.
Officials at World Swimming were keen to stress that they were asked to provide information as witnesses and were not being heard as targets of the federal investigation. WADA declined to comment.
The stakes and timing of an American investigation are particularly high given the country’s relationship with the International Olympic Committee. Los Angeles will host the next Summer Olympics after Paris, in 2028, while Salt Lake City was given preferred bidder status by the I.O.C. in bidding for the 2034 Winter Games.
Michael S. Schmidt is an investigative reporter for The Times covering Washington. His work focuses on tracking and explaining high-profile federal investigations. More about Michael S. Schmidt
Tariq Panja is a global sports correspondent, focusing on stories where money, geopolitics and crime intersect with the sports world. More about Tariq Panja

FBI是管美国国内的事情的,它有什么权利open case查中国运动员,查wada???你这么激动地说前面的人造谣,意义何在?还“相反。。。”反在哪儿?毫无逻辑。。。
文章标题就是Chinese doping case,你翻译成阳性案例,大家就看不懂了?
还有替FBI说话的,受不了。。。
人生在线
潘展乐赛后采访挺真实的,没什么不好。所有人都心知肚明,有什么不能说的?
百自这个游泳重量级的项目能够创世界纪录,并且创自己以前的世界纪录,并且领先第二名1秒多,真真是太牛逼了。
这届奥运会看到中国的00后新生代,干饭哥,阿条姐,王大头,莎莎,还有很多项目的运动员,淡定平和真实有实力,而且个头外貌都很优秀, 感慨国力强了,人会由内而外的自信舒服。
竞技体育真的不容易,祝贺潘展乐夺下游泳及其有分量的百自首金,祝中国的新生代年轻运动员越来越好!
hijklmn 发表于 2024-08-01 07:36
FBI是管美国国内的事情的,它有什么权利open case查中国运动员,查wada???你这么激动地说前面的人造谣,意义何在?还“相反。。。”反在哪儿?毫无逻辑。。。
文章标题就是Chinese doping case,你翻译成阳性案例,大家就看不懂了?
还有替FBI说话的,受不了。。。

美国觉得自己可以管全世界
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明朗少女 发表于 2024-07-31 16:45
破记录了吧 太牛了能领先那么多

这个星球上水里速度最快的人类
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jogging66 发表于 2024-08-01 01:54
回复 1楼 ksun 的帖子
游泳很讲究技巧。 有技巧的运动,中国人人种没有劣势。这就是为什么刘翔的跨栏运动比较好。


短跑也很有技巧,苏炳添就是起跑做到极致了。
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helloterran4 发表于 2024-08-01 01:47
实话,我觉得前运动员来当嘉宾,观众的体验一般都很糟。。。

的确,前运动员就是自己做的好,但未必能讲出来,讲好了。这个赵就是拿着麦当观众来了。嘉宾还是要教练级别的。
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我特意去找了中文台,我觉得这个女解说还好啊。她不是说了吗,潘的优势在后半程。that is it, 已经说出重点来
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心澄 发表于 2024-08-01 08:02
我特意去找了中文台,我觉得这个女解说还好啊。她不是说了吗,潘的优势在后半程。that is it, 已经说出重点来

声音太刺耳,她情绪上的激动不能让观众共鸣,只让我想捂住她的嘴。。。
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tj9981 发表于 2024-08-01 05:39
又来造谣:你说“Fbi已经公开宣布正在考虑从法国引渡中国游泳队”,这是彻头彻尾的谣言,你看过你自己引用的报纸文章吗???这里面没有一个词提到FBI要去法国引渡中国游泳队,相反,这个调查主要就是针对WADA和相关国际运动委员会当初是如何处理中国23个阳性案例的。 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/world/asia/china-swimming-investigation-doping.html


川普就是搞了一个法案授权美国charge“影响美国人成绩的”外国人(教练官员队医),本来是用来搞俄国的。现在WADA已经收到所谓法院传票,所以官员干脆不去美国。 就算有些细节有混淆,美国确实立法要长臂管辖了,起诉外国人。 The Nowicki subpoena is part of the first known use of the Rodchenkov Act for an international incident.  It illustrates the wide net U.S. investigators might cast to fight doping — wide enough that it seems some folks are avoiding the United States, altogether. For instance, WADA moved a conference it had planned for this fall from New York to Montreal. The law was passed to allow American authorities to prosecute doping conspiracies in any sports event involving U.S. athletes — which includes the Olympics and pretty much every major competition around the world.
“It’s highly incorrect that one country tries to impose jurisdiction on anti-doping decisions on the rest of the world,” Banka said.
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第二张图看着像个小学生?
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回复 746楼 vwot 的帖子
那是他小孩时候的照片
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handylady 发表于 2024-08-01 01:41
人家是前世界冠军赵菁,今年中国游泳队这么憋屈她身在这个圈子里心情肯定不一样,我其实挺能共情的,听到最后她的嘶吼都有点热泪盈眶

我也是,先在这里看大家说她声嘶力竭很烦人,但是我自己看回放听到的时候却只有感动和共鸣。她也不是一开始就这样的,而是越来越激动的。
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中國運動員出個好成績就說不可能肯定吃藥了,Usain Bolt那9.58看起來也很不可能,怎麼沒人說他吃藥?明晃晃的雙標還那麼理直氣壯
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hijklmn 发表于 2024-08-01 08:23
声音太刺耳,她情绪上的激动不能让观众共鸣,只让我想捂住她的嘴。。。

宽容一点吧。I can feel her. 中国队这次前面比的不好,有各种各样的原因。相信那个女主持也是发自内心的激动和高兴。她事后也说了抱歉情绪比较激动。再揪着不放就没意思了。
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ksun 发表于 2024-08-01 01:59
也是,我看说徐嘉余仰泳厉害是因为他的道边转身很牛逼,然后别人学不会。导致到现在都没有人可以接他的班。

就是这样的。水下和转身都特别好。underwear and turns.
他的劣势是身高,仰泳是身高最matter的泳姿,蛙蝶都好很多。日本运动员很多蛙蝶尖子选手,仰泳从来没有过。
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wait_6737 发表于 2024-08-01 06:29
那是他教练说的,不过后来老查点赞了。 老查赛后采访说的挺好的,这个点赞确实让人大跌眼镜。

这不是这些人的正常操作吗?镜头前友好谦恭,镜头外傲慢刻薄。所以说小潘采访的时候说出来真相特别好。
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渔非凡 发表于 2024-08-01 07:19
这种专业嘉宾是来帮忙解答一些专业问题的,一般还是主解说说话。这个女嘉宾说不出什么,就喜欢瞎吼,乱加油,喧宾夺主,喊得听不清男主持在说什么,她的嘴肯定靠话筒特别近。男主持虽然也激动,但是人家声调控制得很好,而且一直到最后都言之有物,就是可惜被女的尖叫声掩盖住了。赶紧把女的开除

这个男解说挺好的,知识储备对我这种低层次观众非常丰富了。确实言之有物。 尤其是我每次听完体操再听游泳,简直好到不行。。
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this kid is from my friend's club!!
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渔非凡 发表于 2024-08-01 07:19
这种专业嘉宾是来帮忙解答一些专业问题的,一般还是主解说说话。这个女嘉宾说不出什么,就喜欢瞎吼,乱加油,喧宾夺主,喊得听不清男主持在说什么,她的嘴肯定靠话筒特别近。男主持虽然也激动,但是人家声调控制得很好,而且一直到最后都言之有物,就是可惜被女的尖叫声掩盖住了。赶紧把女的开除

赵菁每次不顾事实的喊,我还以为她的屏幕可以看的更仔细,和我看的不一样。。
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googled "Rodchenkov" https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/07/sport/grigory-rodchenkov-paris-olympics-russia-spt-intl/index.html 俄国的叛徒,算是俄国润人吧。 大致看了一下,这个以他的名义整出来的法案就是针对俄国和中国的。IOC和WADA里你出了多少钱啊?脸这么大! FBI都出动了呢!还罚款,还监禁10年呢!好怕怕啊
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这不是这些人的正常操作吗?镜头前友好谦恭,镜头外傲慢刻薄。所以说小潘采访的时候说出来真相特别好。
kasu 发表于 2024-08-01 09:04

还是因为21年事件吧,后来才知道德国还专门出了一个纪录片讲这个事。WADA的独立调查能不能给一个报告啊,愁。真心的是为运动员感到心酸,辛苦那么多年。
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 08:46
川普就是搞了一个法案授权美国charge“影响美国人成绩的”外国人(教练官员队医),本来是用来搞俄国的。现在WADA已经收到所谓法院传票,所以官员干脆不去美国。 就算有些细节有混淆,美国确实立法要长臂管辖了,起诉外国人。 The Nowicki subpoena is part of the first known use of the Rodchenkov Act for an international incident.  It illustrates the wide net U.S. investigators might cast to fight doping — wide enough that it seems some folks are avoiding the United States, altogether. For instance, WADA moved a conference it had planned for this fall from New York to Montreal. The law was passed to allow American authorities to prosecute doping conspiracies in any sports event involving U.S. athletes — which includes the Olympics and pretty much every major competition around the world.
“It’s highly incorrect that one country tries to impose jurisdiction on anti-doping decisions on the rest of the world,” Banka said.

你说的大家都知道,和我的帖子也没有直接关系,FBI去法国引渡中国运动员就是纯粹的谣言。period
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ILuvSunshine 发表于 2024-08-01 08:58
就是这样的。水下和转身都特别好。underwear and turns.
他的劣势是身高,仰泳是身高最matter的泳姿,蛙蝶都好很多。日本运动员很多蛙蝶尖子选手,仰泳从来没有过。

Ryosuke Irie 至今还保持着200仰亚洲纪录。
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你说的大家都知道,和我的帖子也没有直接关系,FBI去法国引渡中国运动员就是纯粹的谣言。period
tj9981 发表于 2024-08-01 09:14

太能抠字眼了,出动了FBI本来就是事实,法案针对外国运动队也是事实。Congress要立新法案限制WADA也是事实。USADA6月那边刚cleared一个3月“吃牛肉”被查出兴奋剂的奥运运动员,纽约时报那边就渲染2名中国运动员的汉堡阳性事件(中国运动员好歹停赛一年等待调查才被clear呢)。
一套套组合拳也太明显,抠字眼也没用…美国就是这种立国内法管国外事的做法,做到哪一步另说。
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潘潘太牛了,让我热泪盈眶
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 09:36
太能抠字眼了,出动了FBI本来就是事实,法案针对外国运动队也是事实。Congress要立新法案限制WADA也是事实。USADA6月那边刚cleared一个3月“吃牛肉”被查出兴奋剂的奥运运动员,纽约时报那边就渲染2名中国运动员的汉堡阳性事件(中国运动员好歹停赛一年等待调查才被clear呢)。
一套套组合拳也太明显,抠字眼也没用…美国就是这种立国内法管国外事的做法,做到哪一步另说。

其实最大的质疑还就是21年那个,汉堡那个都停赛了不算啥。21年那件事虽然不是国际大赛,但是如果出什么事,所有人都去不了奥运会了,然后大家身上都背有那么多的代言除了巨大损失说不定还得有违约费。还有质疑WADA不透明的,那个时候如果真的透明,西方肯定要闹,那肯定奥运肯定也是去不了的。西方肯定说不管你有没有问题,所有运动员先停赛调查之类的。站回到那个时候肯定没啥更好的处理方式了。
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宽容一点吧。I can feel her. 中国队这次前面比的不好,有各种各样的原因。相信那个女主持也是发自内心的激动和高兴。她事后也说了抱歉情绪比较激动。再揪着不放就没意思了。
liwmhi 发表于 2024-08-01 08:57

她是解说,不是运动员,不是普通观众,为什么不能说她???没有业务能力就不要当解说,没几个人想听她叫唤,除了你们几个。。。
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回复 762楼 ksun 的帖子 主要是有一个吃汉堡的现在也在游泳队,“适时”地在奥运会期间被爆料。IOC让盐湖城签协议之后,国会也不买账,还要继续整。反正这事儿谈拢之前,被明里暗里涉及的人,谁也不会贸然入境美国。美国立这个法,到底觉得能怎么实施,还是真的就不想别人来了,只有内部自己知道。
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 09:56
回复 762楼 ksun 的帖子 主要是有一个吃汉堡的现在也在游泳队,“适时”地在奥运会期间被爆料。IOC让盐湖城签协议之后,国会也不买账,还要继续整。反正这事儿谈拢之前,被明里暗里涉及的人,谁也不会贸然入境美国。美国立这个法,到底觉得能怎么实施,还是真的就不想别人来了,只有内部自己知道。

不为来不来,就是为了诋毁中国。。。
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不为来不来,就是为了诋毁中国。。。
hijklmn 发表于 2024-08-01 10:00

意思就是,WADA查过的他们要自己亲自再查一次,把有关人员都传唤到美国来审问一遍,然后依据美国的法律,决定charge谁就charge谁。 也挺好笑的,你都不信人家,人家为啥要信你这种单方面法律行为? 非常川普思路,在拜登政府下还发扬光大了。
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meftw 发表于 2024-08-01 08:56
中國運動員出個好成績就說不可能肯定吃藥了,Usain Bolt那9.58看起來也很不可能,怎麼沒人說他吃藥?明晃晃的雙標還那麼理直氣壯

这其实很好理解。别人尤其是黄种人的成绩让这些白人内心的优越感暴露无遗而已。
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 09:56
回复 762楼 ksun 的帖子 主要是有一个吃汉堡的现在也在游泳队,“适时”地在奥运会期间被爆料。IOC让盐湖城签协议之后,国会也不买账,还要继续整。反正这事儿谈拢之前,被明里暗里涉及的人,谁也不会贸然入境美国。美国立这个法,到底觉得能怎么实施,还是真的就不想别人来了,只有内部自己知道。

还真不能来美啊。。。看了一下除了LA奥运会,最近没有啥世界锦标赛在美国举行
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 09:36
太能抠字眼了,出动了FBI本来就是事实,法案针对外国运动队也是事实。Congress要立新法案限制WADA也是事实。USADA6月那边刚cleared一个3月“吃牛肉”被查出兴奋剂的奥运运动员,纽约时报那边就渲染2名中国运动员的汉堡阳性事件(中国运动员好歹停赛一年等待调查才被clear呢)。
一套套组合拳也太明显,抠字眼也没用…美国就是这种立国内法管国外事的做法,做到哪一步另说。

该抠。因为很多人只看标题或吸睛短评论,而不去看具体内容的。 一天七次 fbi引渡中国游泳运动员 谣言就是这么起来的,虽然能增加可见度,boost民族情绪,但这种做法难说不会反噬。
cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 10:05
意思就是,WADA查过的他们要自己亲自再查一次,把有关人员都传唤到美国来审问一遍,然后依据美国的法律,决定charge谁就charge谁。 也挺好笑的,你都不信人家,人家为啥要信你这种单方面法律行为? 非常川普思路,在拜登政府下还发扬光大了。

这不是国会搞的吗?
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cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 09:36
太能抠字眼了,出动了FBI本来就是事实,法案针对外国运动队也是事实。Congress要立新法案限制WADA也是事实。USADA6月那边刚cleared一个3月“吃牛肉”被查出兴奋剂的奥运运动员,纽约时报那边就渲染2名中国运动员的汉堡阳性事件(中国运动员好歹停赛一年等待调查才被clear呢)。
一套套组合拳也太明显,抠字眼也没用…美国就是这种立国内法管国外事的做法,做到哪一步另说。

FBI去法国引渡中国运动员就是纯粹的谣言。至于你扯这么多根本和我的这个话题无关,哪儿凉快哪儿去。

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该抠。因为很多人只看标题或吸睛短评论,而不去看具体内容的。 一天七次 fbi引渡中国游泳运动员 谣言就是这么起来的,虽然能增加可见度,boost民族情绪,但这种做法难说不会反噬。
ganymede 发表于 2024-08-01 10:16

他主要目的是反川了。可能被挡了财路。抓住一切机会洗脑。
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在华人上吵个没玩,你们能不能上ins 上和那些暴民硬刚一下? 我都战斗一晚上了。麻烦华人上喜欢小潘的去ins, twitter 上发下声。
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xiaojiejie 发表于 2024-07-31 20:09
美国90%的运动员在那个list上?这你也信?脑袋被门挤了吧,LOL

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呼啦圈 发表于 2024-07-31 16:45
世界纪录,牛 看了小伙子的赛后采访,hmmm觉得还是太年轻了,我撤了。。。

哈哈是的

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handylady 发表于 2024-08-01 01:41
人家是前世界冠军赵菁,今年中国游泳队这么憋屈她身在这个圈子里心情肯定不一样,我其实挺能共情的,听到最后她的嘶吼都有点热泪盈眶

同意 我也喜欢这种真性情的流露 专门找来视频给家俩人看 让孩子们体验那个兴奋和荣耀感
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太TM牛了!!!牛掰!!
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这小伙是典型的零零后 自信实在真实 没有虚的!
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还有不要老拿他和孙杨比 他比孙杨强多了! 孙杨人品家教都不行 潘强太多了!
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要好好保护这个小孩。 泳队信誉一旦破坏,要重新建立很难。澳州那个选手好虚伪,一边握手,一边背后说doping.
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kiwimelon 发表于 2024-08-01 10:43
同意 我也喜欢这种真性情的流露 专门找来视频给家俩人看 让孩子们体验那个兴奋和荣耀感

赵菁:啊!!啊!!潘展乐!!! 潘展乐:在游了!在游了!
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ganymede 发表于 2024-08-01 10:16
该抠。因为很多人只看标题或吸睛短评论,而不去看具体内容的。 一天七次 fbi引渡中国游泳运动员 谣言就是这么起来的,虽然能增加可见度,boost民族情绪,但这种做法难说不会反噬。

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韩国解说也激动得快要破音了,不过一直还在进行专业讲解来着。
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ksun 发表于 2024-07-31 16:45
----------------- 小孩哥,你拿到了孙杨没拿到的,加油!


他阳性了吗?
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悬 发表于 2024-08-01 11:09
韩国解说也激动得快要破音了,不过一直还在进行专业讲解来着。

韩国那对解说很好玩啊,他们平时就是男一句女一句的风格吗。那配合的真不错
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大大的赞一个
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wfh888 发表于 2024-08-01 11:13
他阳性了吗?

没有啊
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brookeyang 发表于 2024-08-01 11:04
要好好保护这个小孩。 泳队信誉一旦破坏,要重新建立很难。澳州那个选手好虚伪,一边握手,一边背后说doping.

我觉得那个澳洲教练也有问题,他说的是他觉得没有见过超过一个身位获得冠军的人,但是超过一个身位难道不是应该说后面的人游得慢么?看下波波维奇,老查的成绩没多好啊,都是37点几,怎么着也得游进37才算大家齐头并进吧,会不会后面的人光吃浪了?哈哈哈就完全没有逻辑这个人
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我觉得那个澳洲教练也有问题,他说的是他觉得没有见过超过一个身位获得冠军的人,但是超过一个身位难道不是应该说后面的人游得慢么?看下波波维奇,老查的成绩没多好啊,都是37点几,怎么着也得游进37才算大家齐头并进吧,会不会后面的人光吃浪了?哈哈哈就完全没有逻辑这个人
ksun 发表于 2024-08-01 11:36

他的意思是出池子难游,所以大家都慢;无论哪个池子,这几个人应该差不多,不应该只有一个人超常发挥。 问题是之前游出46的,本来就只有潘展乐和波波维奇,查尔莫斯一直是47。要说也是波波维奇没发挥好。
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悬 发表于 2024-08-01 11:09
韩国解说也激动得快要破音了,不过一直还在进行专业讲解来着。

韩国解说 为什么激动?
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feifeiblue
他的意思是出池子难游,所以大家都慢;无论哪个池子,这几个人应该差不多,不应该只有一个人超常发挥。
cebublue 发表于 2024-08-01 11:46

这个楼前面有个回帖,回答的是2米2的浅池子的影响, 举例大概是说相当于成人去1米2的池子的感觉。 顺着这个思路我在想,会不会是潘展乐没有欧美运动员那么高,前两天的帖子说现在都1米9多奔着2米高了, 我查了潘展乐是189多一点,这样会不会反而他能够比其他高一些的运动员稍微自如? 就像1米4的成人可能就比1米8的成人更适应1米2的池子?
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我觉得那个澳洲教练也有问题,他说的是他觉得没有见过超过一个身位获得冠军的人,但是超过一个身位难道不是应该说后面的人游得慢么?看下波波维奇,老查的成绩没多好啊,都是37点几,怎么着也得游进37才算大家齐头并进吧,会不会后面的人光吃浪了?哈哈哈就完全没有逻辑这个人
ksun 发表于 2024-08-01 11:36

这种短距离的大热门比赛,冠军超出一个身位我感觉真的很不容易。所以就是潘展乐牛。 前面说亚军看见前面的人超过他的距离还以为自己是最后呢,我感觉好真实的。 以他的位次,平时应该真没有这么夸张的距离差。
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feifeiblue 发表于 2024-08-01 11:50
这个楼前面有个回帖,回答的是2米2的浅池子的影响, 举例大概是说相当于成人去1米2的池子的感觉。 顺着这个思路我在想,会不会是潘展乐没有欧美运动员那么高,前两天的帖子说现在都1米9多奔着2米高了, 我查了潘展乐是189多一点,这样会不会反而他能够比其他高一些的运动员稍微自如? 就像1米4的成人可能就比1米8的成人更适应1米2的池子?

我觉得可能是一旦领先了就不受到浪的影响。赢的一点之后就会优势加大。
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这种短距离的大热门比赛,冠军超出一个身位我感觉真的很不容易。所以就是潘展乐牛。 前面说亚军看见前面的人超过他的距离还以为自己是最后呢,我感觉好真实的。 以他的位次,平时应该真没有这么夸张的距离差。
feifeiblue 发表于 2024-08-01 11:51

季军的记录也比亚军快,他拿亚军就不错了