转一段曾经是职业网球运动员的人的话： “I played professionally for almost 10 years. I was stuck in the 200-500 ranking area my entire career - most of the money I made was from sponsors. Paying for travel and coaching was the hardest part once I was done with tennis academies and all of that. As far as breaking into professional tennis - it’s not “hard.” Anybody “can” go to Africa and play a Futures tournament if they want - the draws there are usually very weak (if you’re an amateur you’re still going to get destroyed, but you get what I’m saying). The part that’s hard is having enough money, or your parents having enough money to get you into tennis at a young age, paying for rackets, strings, court time, possibly paying to enroll you at a tennis academy, etc. That’s why people often refer to tennis as a “rich sport.” My parents are middle class and I respect what they did for me so so so much. When I was younger (5-7 years old) I played casually, but was noticed by some people in my area. Then at the age of 9 I went to a tennis academy that was both school/tennis (mostly tennis). I made a ton of friends and enjoyed it, but I missed out on high school, college, etc. The first tennis academy wasn’t super serious, but the one I stayed at until I was 16 was very serious. Tennis was (still is) pretty much my entire life. I don’t regret it, but I’ve had so many surgeries and my body is so beat up that it’s a little rough. I’m still young but I feel old…I currently run a tennis club in my area and occasionally work with some players - the biggest name I work with is Jessie Pegula, but only when she’s in town and wants to. Sorry I’m rambling, but my point is that to even break into the “real” rankings of tennis (like 500+), you need to devote yourself to it completely. Most of us who are grinding on the Futures/Challenger Tour don’t make much money playing, but it’s incredibly expensive so that’s why it’s so hard to maintain a career. Getting a decent sponsor means everything. I truly wish they would disperse tournament money/winnings in a more fair way. But yea, I pretty much just chill with my wife & kids now, go watch a lot of tennis tournaments, run the tennis club (I have people do most of that for me but I oversee things), and I play a shit ton of video games haha. That’s my biggest hobby now when my kids go to sleep and my wife is doing her own thing. I think people generally consider tennis one of the hardest sports to fully break into, but literally anybody can go play an ITF match if they want to for the most part“
CK 发表于 2024-07-25 23:54 转一段曾经是职业网球运动员的人的话： “I played professionally for almost 10 years. I was stuck in the 200-500 ranking area my entire career - most of the money I made was from sponsors. Paying for travel and coaching was the hardest part once I was done with tennis academies and all of that. As far as breaking into professional tennis - it’s not “hard.” Anybody “can” go to Africa and play a Futures tournament if they want - the draws there are usually very weak (if you’re an amateur you’re still going to get destroyed, but you get what I’m saying). The part that’s hard is having enough money, or your parents having enough money to get you into tennis at a young age, paying for rackets, strings, court time, possibly paying to enroll you at a tennis academy, etc. That’s why people often refer to tennis as a “rich sport.” My parents are middle class and I respect what they did for me so so so much. When I was younger (5-7 years old) I played casually, but was noticed by some people in my area. Then at the age of 9 I went to a tennis academy that was both school/tennis (mostly tennis). I made a ton of friends and enjoyed it, but I missed out on high school, college, etc. The first tennis academy wasn’t super serious, but the one I stayed at until I was 16 was very serious. Tennis was (still is) pretty much my entire life. I don’t regret it, but I’ve had so many surgeries and my body is so beat up that it’s a little rough. I’m still young but I feel old…I currently run a tennis club in my area and occasionally work with some players - the biggest name I work with is Jessie Pegula, but only when she’s in town and wants to. Sorry I’m rambling, but my point is that to even break into the “real” rankings of tennis (like 500+), you need to devote yourself to it completely. Most of us who are grinding on the Futures/Challenger Tour don’t make much money playing, but it’s incredibly expensive so that’s why it’s so hard to maintain a career. Getting a decent sponsor means everything. I truly wish they would disperse tournament money/winnings in a more fair way. But yea, I pretty much just chill with my wife & kids now, go watch a lot of tennis tournaments, run the tennis club (I have people do most of that for me but I oversee things), and I play a shit ton of video games haha. That’s my biggest hobby now when my kids go to sleep and my wife is doing her own thing. I think people generally consider tennis one of the hardest sports to fully break into, but literally anybody can go play an ITF match if they want to for the most part“
CK 发表于 2024-07-25 23:54 转一段曾经是职业网球运动员的人的话： “I played professionally for almost 10 years. I was stuck in the 200-500 ranking area my entire career - most of the money I made was from sponsors. Paying for travel and coaching was the hardest part once I was done with tennis academies and all of that. As far as breaking into professional tennis - it’s not “hard.” Anybody “can” go to Africa and play a Futures tournament if they want - the draws there are usually very weak (if you’re an amateur you’re still going to get destroyed, but you get what I’m saying). The part that’s hard is having enough money, or your parents having enough money to get you into tennis at a young age, paying for rackets, strings, court time, possibly paying to enroll you at a tennis academy, etc. That’s why people often refer to tennis as a “rich sport.” My parents are middle class and I respect what they did for me so so so much. When I was younger (5-7 years old) I played casually, but was noticed by some people in my area. Then at the age of 9 I went to a tennis academy that was both school/tennis (mostly tennis). I made a ton of friends and enjoyed it, but I missed out on high school, college, etc. The first tennis academy wasn’t super serious, but the one I stayed at until I was 16 was very serious. Tennis was (still is) pretty much my entire life. I don’t regret it, but I’ve had so many surgeries and my body is so beat up that it’s a little rough. I’m still young but I feel old…I currently run a tennis club in my area and occasionally work with some players - the biggest name I work with is Jessie Pegula, but only when she’s in town and wants to. Sorry I’m rambling, but my point is that to even break into the “real” rankings of tennis (like 500+), you need to devote yourself to it completely. Most of us who are grinding on the Futures/Challenger Tour don’t make much money playing, but it’s incredibly expensive so that’s why it’s so hard to maintain a career. Getting a decent sponsor means everything. I truly wish they would disperse tournament money/winnings in a more fair way. But yea, I pretty much just chill with my wife & kids now, go watch a lot of tennis tournaments, run the tennis club (I have people do most of that for me but I oversee things), and I play a shit ton of video games haha. That’s my biggest hobby now when my kids go to sleep and my wife is doing her own thing. I think people generally consider tennis one of the hardest sports to fully break into, but literally anybody can go play an ITF match if they want to for the most part“
什么名次？ top 100 还是blue chip?
打到100名？ 200 名？
上Yale， 哈佛，Brown， 或U of Chicargo什么的，有帮助吗？
有哪些学校比较喜欢网球生呢？
如果GPA top 3%的话,有帮助。
州里前几离pro还差远了吧，全national 前几还差不多
不进大学校队都没用。这么多华人小孩花时间弄体育就是为了特招进藤校。你不想网球特招， 只能靠别的spike进。
州前几就是national前200了，还不够牛啊？我看网球排名可以排的很具体，几百都有。
national前200是很牛啊，但是离能打pro还差很远吧，看看全世界排名top的美国有几个？
As far as breaking into professional tennis - it’s not “hard.” Anybody “can” go to Africa and play a Futures tournament if they want - the draws there are usually very weak (if you’re an amateur you’re still going to get destroyed, but you get what I’m saying).
The part that’s hard is having enough money, or your parents having enough money to get you into tennis at a young age, paying for rackets, strings, court time, possibly paying to enroll you at a tennis academy, etc. That’s why people often refer to tennis as a “rich sport.” My parents are middle class and I respect what they did for me so so so much. When I was younger (5-7 years old) I played casually, but was noticed by some people in my area. Then at the age of 9 I went to a tennis academy that was both school/tennis (mostly tennis). I made a ton of friends and enjoyed it, but I missed out on high school, college, etc. The first tennis academy wasn’t super serious, but the one I stayed at until I was 16 was very serious. Tennis was (still is) pretty much my entire life. I don’t regret it, but I’ve had so many surgeries and my body is so beat up that it’s a little rough. I’m still young but I feel old…I currently run a tennis club in my area and occasionally work with some players - the biggest name I work with is Jessie Pegula, but only when she’s in town and wants to.
Sorry I’m rambling, but my point is that to even break into the “real” rankings of tennis (like 500+), you need to devote yourself to it completely. Most of us who are grinding on the Futures/Challenger Tour don’t make much money playing, but it’s incredibly expensive so that’s why it’s so hard to maintain a career. Getting a decent sponsor means everything. I truly wish they would disperse tournament money/winnings in a more fair way.
But yea, I pretty much just chill with my wife & kids now, go watch a lot of tennis tournaments, run the tennis club (I have people do most of that for me but I oversee things), and I play a shit ton of video games haha. That’s my biggest hobby now when my kids go to sleep and my wife is doing her own thing.
I think people generally consider tennis one of the hardest sports to fully break into, but literally anybody can go play an ITF match if they want to for the most part“
想进这些学校那只能靠特招了。不够特招水平那就得看其他了。就是跟其他没有网球特长的学生竞争。成绩都非常好的前提下，人家可能有钢琴或者写作或者数学特长。
这是ATP排名吧，大学校队的顶尖也没有到了有排名的程度，played professionally就不会上高中了，要全天训练的，pro里的顶尖选手大学生的年纪已经拿大满贯了。
我查不到这些成名的职业选手 成名之前在州里面ranking如何，都是排名第一的？那全美国只有50个，感觉太少了。全世界有3800个职业网球运动员，不可能美国只有50个吧。
特招就是指要和大学的教练联系，参加大学体育队，做体育生，是吗？
如果是钢琴特招，上了大学之后，还需要继续maintain钢琴level吗？
打到一定的水平以后再来操心这些细节吧。 你娃多大？ 你这是娃已经高中了担心体育特招以后大学里不想花时间了吗？ 还是你家小娃才刚开始网球你在规划？
认识有孩子州第一的网球特招进了藤校，毕业了也还是去华尔街
钢琴没有特招
哪有钢琴特招？除非你申请音乐学院然后弹得和李云迪等一样好，才能只凭钢琴进去。那个 层主说的是成绩非常好的情况下，如果没有特招，你的特长要和别的孩子特长一样强。这样 申请太功利了，一切只为升学，网球好为什么不去网球校队？
高中在校队不能证明优秀，起码不是进藤校的那种优秀。
什么比赛的名次？你打网球多了就知道，比赛和比赛的档次差好多。有些比赛你赢了自己爽还行，拿出去说会被同行笑话的。
转另一个曾经打ATP但没有很成功的球员的话，后来这人当过袁悦教练： https://weibo.com/1733108642/5010873619579454
时间让你把最好的自己“榨”出来了。 埃：你看，也许我退役时并没有拥有豪宅豪车，但我带走了令人难以置信的、永恒的友谊，很多人都不曾有过的文化交流，以及33岁时难忘的生活经历。这是无法用金钱或大学学位来支付或交换的。 这难道不算成功吗？ 这难道不是一件值得骄傲的事吗？OK，我没有劳力士，也没有住在我梦想的豪宅里，但我随身带着许多回忆、旅行、人和知识，这一切造就了当下的我。 如果倒流回去，我还会做同样的事情。 在内心深处，我觉得我的职业生涯确实非常成功。
真实网球感受
谢谢这么实际的回复
娃好友全国排名前三十，去了藤校D1,但肯定不会走专业，而且也没好到走专业。
这个肯定的，州第一应该是非常厉害的人，是全美Top50了！这肯定是天才了。
美国各个州网球水平层次不齐，在强州第一还不错，很多弱州第一全美都有可能200开外
很有可能。我们之前的好几个教练全是东欧过来打D1，再留下来当网球教练的。就我们这农村，从捷克这么过来的教练我们就认识4个。
captain像我家孩子team都不是谁厉害就当，而是看seniority还有popularity
能放得上台面的EC（诸如网球啊，钢琴啊等等等等，没怎么打比赛的） 需要大概什么投入啊
比如五年以上？每周几个小时？
hm，是不是还是得有一定成绩啊，比如大小比赛奖，高中校队等，但是不足以走特招？
同意
varsity captain要证明的就是leadership