Yosemite 的 half dome 难爬吗?

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怀念2019
楼主 (北美华人网)
好像又有人摔死了。有那么危险吗?听说还要先申请permit 才能爬。
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Doudoudou11
看你体力,我有认识人退休小团体去年爬去了,他们一队人身体就是倍儿棒,孩子都大学毕业了,里面有位女士还跑马拉松有腹肌的那种。。。。我上次去优胜美地,跟我bf俩人各种找理由相互说服对方不去half dome,然后俩弱鸡就举案齐眉了
半个马和甲
不是老手不建议。 需要慢慢的训练。 就和训练马拉松一样。 。别从来不爬hard level hiking 就去挑战。 最后一段很吃力的。
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shanggj
半个马和甲 发表于 2024-07-25 12:47
不是老手不建议。 需要慢慢的训练。 就和训练马拉松一样。 。别从来不爬hard level hiking 就去挑战。 最后一段很吃力的。

不觉得。 感觉就是个正常的 “difficult" 档次的 trail.
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shalalala2
怀念2019 发表于 2024-07-25 12:17
好像又有人摔死了。有那么危险吗?听说还要先申请permit 才能爬。

肯定不好爬。这次事故是因为在下大雨。
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snowgopher
下雨天当然不能爬了,湿滑的石头很危险,尤其雷雨易遭雷劈。干燥的天气,只要不恐高,能爬楼梯爬山的都可以。
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ccang1234
我连边上那个山头爬上去都吃力,普通人还是不要挑战了。
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cheshirekat
我当年爬的前几天,也是刚有个人赶上下雨滑下去摔死了。然后我们还是硬着头皮去了,只带了抓cable用的园丁手套。去了后发现有四分之一的人用了via ferrata做保护,才觉得自己有点儿不负责。如果再去爬我也会带保护。
最后这段大概45度的陡坡,夏季才有cable支起来,会有更多普通游客来爬。长年累月下来这段的石头有点儿打滑,一定要穿防滑的鞋。戴园丁手套也是为了更好抓牢cable。这次出事的姑娘就是下雨后鞋底打滑摔下去的。下行比上行更吓人,好多人都是背朝下倒着走,我这种脸朝下的被他们认为是奇葩,但我觉得这样更好控制。
山里下雨一般都是下午。所以一定要早出发,争取上午到达cable陡坡。到的早cable上人也少更安全。这次出事的姑娘和她爸是早上8点才出发,有点儿晚了。
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ZHUZI
好可怜
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xiaoyagaga
才20岁,RIP
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vivil
这个季节爬的人应该很多,脚滑摔下去周围的人没能拉一下缓冲一下吗?真是不可想象啊。我当年去爬只是觉得全程太长了,体力不好的不一定能天黑前回来。但最后一段一点没觉得有什么难的,有cable在也没觉得有危险。会不会是因为下雨所以cable上没有什么人了。
公用马甲41
怀念2019 发表于 2024-07-25 12:17
好像又有人摔死了。有那么危险吗?听说还要先申请permit 才能爬。

https://www.sfgate.com/california-parks/article/college-student-death-half-dome-yosemite-19591633.php
On July 13, during a heavy rainstorm in Yosemite National Park, an Arizona State University student slipped and fell to her death from the Half Dome cables. Park officials did not issue a statement about the death and declined to comment for this story. But Jonathan Rohloff — who was descending the cables with his 20-year-old daughter Grace when she slipped — confirmed that she did not survive. “Grace was such a beautiful soul,” he said in a phone interview with SFGATE. “She deserves to have her story told.” The father-daughter duo had hiked together countless times and over thousands of miles — up to Angels Landing in Zion National Park, down into the Grand Canyon and all over mountains across their home state of Arizona. So when Grace secured a permit to hike Half Dome through the daily lottery system on July 11, they were ecstatic.
Grace Rohloff and her father Jonathan Rohloff pose for a photo on the day they hiked Half Dome.  Courtesy of Jonathan Rohloff They cleared their schedules to drive from Phoenix to Yosemite the following day, and on the day after that, they set out on the strenuous 16-mile trail at about 8 a.m. A ranger told them there were storms in the forecast, and at times, they did notice clouds overhead. But when the pair reached the bottom of Half Dome’s famous cables a little after noon, the sky was perfectly clear, Rohloff said. They proceeded with other hikers up the 400-foot stretch of the trail supported by the cable system. When they arrived at the top, the panoramic views of Yosemite Valley and the High Sierra were outstanding. As Rohloff snapped photos of his daughter, he marveled at how beautiful and fearless she was. Grace told her father she was amazed to have climbed Half Dome — an item on her bucket list — and that she loved him. Moments later, an unsettling thunderclap boomed across the sky.
FILE: Hiker nearing the peak of Half Dome. Cables are clearly visible, as well as sheer cliff (from a near vertical perspective). Krilt/Getty Images/iStockphoto “A black cloud was rolling in like gangbusters,” Rohloff said. “I was like, ‘We have got to get down now, because we don’t want to be up here with any rain. It rolled in literally out of nowhere.’” As experienced, athletic hikers, the father and daughter could have bounded down the rockface to avoid a descent in the rain, Rohloff said. But the people in front of them were proceeding slowly and cautiously and it seemed impolite to pass them, given the frightening circumstances. Soon, they were all trapped on the cables in a heavy rainstorm. The granite became incredibly slick, and the climbers in front of them started sliding around. Grace was in a new pair of hiking shoes that were supposed to offer good traction — but they didn’t.
Grace Rohloff loved outdoor adventures.  Courtesy of Jonathan Rohloff “Dad, my shoes are so slippery,” Rohloff remembered her saying. He tried to calm her nerves, saying, “OK, let’s do one step at a time.” He believed they were taking the necessary precautions.   About three-quarters of the way down the cables, though, both of Grace’s feet went out from under her. “She just slid off to the side, right by me, down the mountain,” Rohloff said. “It happened so fast. I tried to reach my hand up, but she was already gone.” At that point, Rohloff descended the cables as fast as he could. Although his daughter had gone down a steep slope that looked about 200 to 300 feet, he had watched her come to a stop, and believed she might be alive. “I just wanted to get my daughter,” he said. At the bottom of the cables, he looked over the edge and realized that the mountain was too steep. He couldn’t reach her. He began yelling for someone to call 911, and people were staring at him, but not reacting, he said. So eventually Rohloff called 911 himself.
FILE: The trail to Half Dome in Yosemite National Park is one of the most famous in the park.  Anacleto Rapping/Los Angeles Times via Getty Imag Then he began calling out to his daughter, in case she could hear him. He repeated over and over, “Grace, I’m here. I’m not going to leave you. If you can hear my voice, give me a sign. I love you.” He dropped to his knees and prayed for a miracle, and a few people approached him, asking if they could pray, too. Erin McGlynn, a 22-year-old from Las Vegas, had just hiked up the trail with her mom to find Rohloff shouting to his daughter. “It was one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever seen,” McGlynn told SFGATE. “But it was also one of the bravest things I’ve ever seen. He was able to compose himself, just in case he could provide any comfort to her. He did everything he possibly could have.” Meanwhile, park ranger Shawna Daly was providing support to Rohloff, he said. She stayed by his side for three hours as they waited for a rescue helicopter and climbers to retrieve Grace, Rohloff said. She remained there even through the howling wind and pouring rain. At one point, it began to hail — first in pellets the size of peas, and later in pingpong ball-sized chunks, he said.
FILE: The famous rock in Yosemite National Park. Powerfocusfotografie/Getty Images The ranger was there when Rohloff learned from rescuers that Grace had died, and she went with him on the hike down the mountain, without his daughter. “I know that’s her job, but [Daly] went way above and beyond to make a human connection with me,” he said.   Later, when Rohloff spoke to a coroner, he learned that Grace sustained a severe head fracture and likely died during the fall. “That was at least comforting,” he said. “If she was gone, that she didn’t have to suffer.”
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GABA
我们去爬的时候还不需要PERMIT, 根本没想过有什么难度, 底下有很多用过的厚手套, 你要不嫌弃就拿一双来用, 下来后放回去就行了。不然自己带一付。 真不觉得难爬, 拉住CABLE很容易就上去了。 这次出事是遇上了暴雨。
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thymesu
上下要一天的话,建议先选个半天的项目搞搞,我只爬过天使之巅,来回不到四个小时那种,我慢悠悠搞了五个小时,爬前没有特别锻炼过,不赶时间的话体力上还好,但下山腿有点虚,第二天整个腿废了,第三天又好了。
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jeso1
吃饱了撑得 爬黄山为了看云海,怕峨眉看佛光 这个优胜美地,爬上去就是远看群山一锅窝头 都是圆滑灰色石头和暗绿色针叶 完全没有风景 为爬山而爬山
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vivil
看了父亲的叙述,还是怀疑他们可能走到绳索的外面去了,所以才发生了这样的事故。如果严格在两根绳索中间走,是不可能从山的侧面掉下去的。父亲的叙述提到了他们嫌前面的人走得慢,我怀疑他们从绳索的一侧外面试图超越前面的人,然后脚下一滑直接无任何阻挡的摔下去了。
道特安
Half dome是开发得比较好的路线,晴天挺安全的,下雨天比较危险,不但有可能打滑,还有可能被雷电击中。难不难爬则是因人而异,这样难度的路线(15 mile左右,爬升5000尺)到处都有,去之前可以多爬几个,至少保证体力上没太大问题。
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sakura_wind
只要耐力够和水带够,天气好的时候不难,就是最后1/3上得很崩溃,永远到不了头得感觉
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playplay
看了上面层主贴的新闻,这次出事最重要的原因是因为新买的登山鞋太滑了,到底是哪个牌子的鞋子?能不能去告这个牌子啊?
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blocked
道特安 发表于 2024-07-25 14:19
Half dome是开发得比较好的路线,晴天挺安全的,下雨天比较危险,不但有可能打滑,还有可能被雷电击中。难不难爬则是因人而异,这样难度的路线(15 mile左右,爬升5000尺)到处都有,去之前可以多爬几个,至少保证体力上没太大问题。

15mile5000尺虽然对很多有经验的登山者不是不可逾越的,但是对平时运动少的人来说还是比较艰难的。
平均上下需要10-12小时,而且有比较陡峭的坡度。对于非登山爱好者,或者平时没有锻炼的人来说,这个是相当大的挑战了。
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blocked
playplay 发表于 2024-07-25 14:30
看了上面层主贴的新闻,这次出事最重要的原因是因为新买的登山鞋太滑了,到底是哪个牌子的鞋子?能不能去告这个牌子啊?

这,以后鞋要更贵了。鞋厂得买额外得保险
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JohnChan
Half Dome 正面很难爬,没爬过。
顶部侧面有铁缆的就像走路,像三藩市有坡度的马路。
不过从谷底到铁缆开始的地方也要走两三个小时吧。
小亥
JohnChan 发表于 2024-07-25 18:22
Half Dome 正面很难爬,没爬过。
顶部侧面有铁缆的就像走路,像三藩市有坡度的马路。
不过从谷底到铁缆开始的地方也要走两三个小时吧。

这个版上从正面上去的目测木有
小亥
怀念2019 发表于 2024-07-25 12:17
好像又有人摔死了。有那么危险吗?听说还要先申请permit 才能爬。

楼主,你这个小马过河的问题可难回答啊。我知道每年都死人。不过比angels landing简单。
准备好手套,防滑,防晒,水即可。哪个带带,主要是保命用的,以防哪个不认识的从定顶上滚下来,带你一起去见阎王
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keetkeety
我觉得危险啊 主要是你的命是上面那些人决定的 如果他们脚一滑滚了下来
这次下雨死的人是experienced hiker
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YYFLy
vivil 发表于 2024-07-25 13:40
这个季节爬的人应该很多,脚滑摔下去周围的人没能拉一下缓冲一下吗?真是不可想象啊。我当年去爬只是觉得全程太长了,体力不好的不一定能天黑前回来。但最后一段一点没觉得有什么难的,有cable在也没觉得有危险。会不会是因为下雨所以cable上没有什么人了。

这姑娘跟她爸一起爬的,连她爸都没拉住她
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YYFLy
而且这可不是个普通姑娘,是个高中篮球运动员,而且经常跟她爸一起去爬很难的trail
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keetkeety
YYFLy 发表于 2024-07-26 02:59
这姑娘跟她爸一起爬的,连她爸都没拉住她

她是从边上滑下去的。。没有从人群中穿过。边上没有人拦着。
其实这个有个解决办法 就是上via ferrata 但是是不是很麻烦。走一段就要重新弄上。所以大部分人肯定都宁愿冒险 也不愿意麻烦。
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miss316
这是一条有一定难度,而且容错率很低的路线。天气晴好的时候,如果你体力可以,不恐高的,用绳索做好保护问题不大。下雨天千万别去找死,还有人没脚滑,但是上到顶上遇到雷击的。
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miss316
playplay 发表于 2024-07-25 14:30
看了上面层主贴的新闻,这次出事最重要的原因是因为新买的登山鞋太滑了,到底是哪个牌子的鞋子?能不能去告这个牌子啊?

有些地方坡度太大了,没有手抓住护栏是站不住的。而且出事的offtrail了,trail外的坡度更大,怪不到鞋上。
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hope20111
弱鸡当年走到坡底下已经没了半条命,还下着蒙蒙雨……直接在那里撑了个小路子煮了一包方便面,吃了就打道回帐篷了
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hokiegogogo
hope20111 发表于 2024-07-26 09:43
弱鸡当年走到坡底下已经没了半条命,还下着蒙蒙雨……直接在那里撑了个小路子煮了一包方便面,吃了就打道回帐篷了

笑死,好不容易抽签抽到的permit被你浪费了
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hope20111
小亥 发表于 2024-07-25 18:34
楼主,你这个小马过河的问题可难回答啊。我知道每年都死人。不过比angels landing简单。
准备好手套,防滑,防晒,水即可。哪个带带,主要是保命用的,以防哪个不认识的从定顶上滚下来,带你一起去见阎王

啥?比天使巅容易啊!天使巅我没问题,half dome完全不敢尝试。估计没休息好,去half dome住帐篷晚上睡不好
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JohnChan
keetkeety 发表于 2024-07-26 09:14
她是从边上滑下去的。。没有从人群中穿过。边上没有人拦着。
其实这个有个解决办法 就是上via ferrata 但是是不是很麻烦。走一段就要重新弄上。所以大部分人肯定都宁愿冒险 也不愿意麻烦。

我看过有两父女用via ferrata牵在一起的,没有挂在铁缆上面。
其实有敬畏大自然的心,手离铁缆不远,没有那么容易掉下去的。
掉下去的都是高手和胆子大的。之前还有人为了捡他的iPhone掉下去了。