谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。 我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。 顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。
yummy_agpr 发表于 2024-06-29 12:22 "who seeks abortions at or after 20 weeks", Diana Greene Foster and Katrina Kimport, Perspective on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2013 45(4):210-218, 不要告诉我你不懂得怎么查文献哦。
我说的孕晚期是third trimester abortion 就是Donnie讲的8-9个月的abortion，你这篇文章讲的是1st and 2nd trimester abortion, 然后说none of the clinics have limit beyond 2nd trimester. 我看了一遍，没有讲3rd trimester abortion
谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。 我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。 顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。 田园将芜胡不归 发表于 2024-06-29 13:21
田园将芜胡不归 发表于 2024-06-29 13:21 谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。 我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。 顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。
谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。 我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。 顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。 田园将芜胡不归 发表于 2024-06-29 13:21
谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。 我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。 顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。 田园将芜胡不归 发表于 2024-06-29 13:21
51 vs 49 说得太好了。那为什不把这个决定权从州里下放到county? 或者更公平一些放到市里， 甚至是每个小社区里… 或者是把决定权放到每个人身上？ 为什么大家要止步于州？为啥啊？ 对不起俺又要swear 了：My body my bleeping choice.
我说的孕晚期是third trimester abortion 就是Donnie讲的8-9个月的abortion，你这篇文章讲的是1st and 2nd trimester abortion, 然后说none of the clinics have limit beyond 2nd trimester. 我看了一遍，没有讲3rd trimester abortion Mediterranean 发表于 2024-06-29 13:21
我帮你copy 过来吧: 26-year-old Latina woman in New Mexico, who had an abortion at 28 weeks’ gestation, said, “I was afraid of my boyfriend finding out, and I went [to the abortion clinic] once he was in jail.”这就是你要找的3rd trimester abortion的例子。 以下是baby的存活率 Fetal viability is the ability of a baby to survive outside the womb, and it depends on many factors, including gestational age. In the United States, it''s generally considered that a fetus is viable at around 23 or 24 weeks of gestation. However, babies born before 27 weeks, known as periviable babies, are still very underdeveloped and require immediate life-saving interventions and advanced care in a NICU. Survival rates for periviable babies vary depending on the week of birth: 23 weeks: 23–27% survival rate, with 98–100% of survivors experiencing significant morbidity 24 weeks: 42–59% survival rate 25 weeks: 67–76% survival rate 26 weeks: 80% survival rate, but 10% of survivors may have severe disabilities 27–30 weeks: About 90% survival rate, with the risk of severe disabilities decreasing with increasing gestation
percipient64 发表于 2024-06-29 14:25 51 vs 49 说得太好了。那为什不把这个决定权从州里下放到county? 或者更公平一些放到市里， 甚至是每个小社区里… 或者是把决定权放到每个人身上？ 为什么大家要止步于州？为啥啊？ 对不起俺又要swear 了：My body my bleeping choice.
Since the Supreme Court's Chevron decision has taken independent regulation powers away from government agencies, let's take this opportunity to review what happens now if Trump wins and the GOP gets to launch Project 2025. Hint: The 2 are connected. Abortions could be made nearly impossible nationwide, because 1. Abortion would not be subject to any safety regulation under the Dept. of Health. 2. The president would force the now-powerless FDA to rescind its approval of mifepristone and judges could declare it illegal. 3. The Office of Human Rights, also powerless, would no longer enforce any federal laws protecting LGBTQ people, racial minorities, disabled people, etc. Get ready for even more rollbacks of civil rights! 4. The EPA would be in the tank for expanded coal, oil, and gas projects. https://x.com/andrewpolino/status/1807031608576548986?s=46&t=CJEbIV1b1AZoPtomlhXKpQ
yummy_agpr 发表于 2024-06-29 14:38 我帮你copy 过来吧: 26-year-old Latina woman in New Mexico, who had an abortion at 28 weeks’ gestation, said, “I was afraid of my boyfriend finding out, and I went [to the abortion clinic] once he was in jail.”这就是你要找的3rd trimester abortion的例子。 以下是baby的存活率 Fetal viability is the ability of a baby to survive outside the womb, and it depends on many factors, including gestational age. In the United States, it''s generally considered that a fetus is viable at around 23 or 24 weeks of gestation. However, babies born before 27 weeks, known as periviable babies, are still very underdeveloped and require immediate life-saving interventions and advanced care in a NICU. Survival rates for periviable babies vary depending on the week of birth: 23 weeks: 23–27% survival rate, with 98–100% of survivors experiencing significant morbidity 24 weeks: 42–59% survival rate 25 weeks: 67–76% survival rate 26 weeks: 80% survival rate, but 10% of survivors may have severe disabilities 27–30 weeks: About 90% survival rate, with the risk of severe disabilities decreasing with increasing gestation
首先，你这确实找到one data point, 比Donnie和许多信口的pro life强太多了。其次，你这个例子不正说明了保证妇女的自主选择权很重要，特别是孕早期的自主权很重要，因为恐惧家暴拖到third trimester 的悲剧，是我们不想看到的。红州禁早期堕胎就会导致类似的拖延，不是吗？
红脖州永远是拿联邦补助的大户。 white supremacists 出来喊两嗓子可以理解毕竟祖辈辛苦过。第一代移民出身的黄皮川粉们代入感也太强了吧。
你为啥还赖在加州不走啊
这么坏，拉别人下水
一看生6，7个娃就算了吧
谁告诉你我是pro life？我是pro choice, 坚决支持想流就流。强扭的瓜不甜，不是每个人都适合做父母，孩子不如早死早投胎。共和党在这件事上纯属瞎操心。
我只是告诉你，现在法律保护你这么做的权力。如果全靠道德约束就可以了，要法律干嘛。
顺便说一句，川普说现在把堕胎权下放到州里，this issue will not divide the nation any more。这个我认为是高院判决的最大价值。让美国回归Republic，不要让51%的人把意志强加到另外49%的人身上。LGBTQ之类议题都应该这样，各回各家，各找各妈，联邦管管军事外交就够了。
我说的孕晚期是third trimester abortion 就是Donnie讲的8-9个月的abortion，你这篇文章讲的是1st and 2nd trimester abortion, 然后说none of the clinics have limit beyond 2nd trimester. 我看了一遍，没有讲3rd trimester abortion
What？什么叫下放到州里：就是州议会的老男人把30-40%人的意愿强加在60-70%的头上。 你如果觉州里老男人可以随便立法限制堕胎的话，就不是pro choice，你的立场似乎很矛盾。
发帖不看id吗？党卫军你有什么好争辩的？
州权对应骑马打仗骑马传信的时代， 比石器时代是不是先进了 几十万年？
你忘了FDR
51 vs 49 说得太好了。那为什不把这个决定权从州里下放到county? 或者更公平一些放到市里， 甚至是每个小社区里…
或者是把决定权放到每个人身上？ 为什么大家要止步于州？为啥啊？
对不起俺又要swear 了：My body my bleeping choice.
我帮你copy 过来吧: 26-year-old Latina woman in New Mexico, who had an abortion at 28 weeks’ gestation, said, “I was afraid of my boyfriend finding out, and I went [to the abortion clinic] once he was in jail.”这就是你要找的3rd trimester abortion的例子。
以下是baby的存活率 Fetal viability is the ability of a baby to survive outside the womb, and it depends on many factors, including gestational age. In the United States, it''s generally considered that a fetus is viable at around 23 or 24 weeks of gestation. However, babies born before 27 weeks, known as periviable babies, are still very underdeveloped and require immediate life-saving interventions and advanced care in a NICU. Survival rates for periviable babies vary depending on the week of birth:
23 weeks: 23–27% survival rate, with 98–100% of survivors experiencing significant morbidity 24 weeks: 42–59% survival rate 25 weeks: 67–76% survival rate 26 weeks: 80% survival rate, but 10% of survivors may have severe disabilities 27–30 weeks: About 90% survival rate, with the risk of severe disabilities decreasing with increasing gestation
所以，房价上天是好事？
Since the Supreme Court's Chevron decision has taken independent regulation powers away from government agencies, let's take this opportunity to review what happens now if Trump wins and the GOP gets to launch Project 2025.
Hint: The 2 are connected. Abortions could be made nearly impossible nationwide, because
1. Abortion would not be subject to any safety regulation under the Dept. of Health.
2. The president would force the now-powerless FDA to rescind its approval of mifepristone and judges could declare it illegal. 3. The Office of Human Rights, also powerless, would no longer enforce any federal laws protecting LGBTQ people, racial minorities, disabled people, etc. Get ready for even more rollbacks of civil rights!
4. The EPA would be in the tank for expanded coal, oil, and gas projects. https://x.com/andrewpolino/status/1807031608576548986?s=46&t=CJEbIV1b1AZoPtomlhXKpQ
你脑补太多了
你觉得这是newsom的加分项吗。。。
湾湾肯定是大大的减分项， LOL
首先，你这确实找到one data point, 比Donnie和许多信口的pro life强太多了。其次，你这个例子不正说明了保证妇女的自主选择权很重要，特别是孕早期的自主权很重要，因为恐惧家暴拖到third trimester 的悲剧，是我们不想看到的。红州禁早期堕胎就会导致类似的拖延，不是吗？
你不是一直要投Trump吗？
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明显是现在的川普更容易打啊 4年后对上共和党少壮派，赢面肯定比现在低
现在主要是民主党内部的建制派，讲论资排辈，拜登自己不声明前，纽森很难主动跳出来
我投川普的唯一前提是拜登参选， 哈哈。 我又不是民主党脑残粉， 尽管我现在注册的是民主党。
都走了让你们龙虾党吃谁去
Pro choice是民主党为了拉拢女性选票spin出来的话术。是啊我的body我做主，政府滚远点。不过真那么简单吗？活在妈妈子宫的婴儿只是妈妈身体的一部分，还是一个有独立生命的个体。如果是前者，那没错，你的身体你做主。但如果是后者，谁来保护婴儿的生命权呢？
Shithole地区肯定上不了天
纽森或者其它少壮派这次不出来，就凭拜登抖抖抖，话都说不利索，川普很大概率又会嬴。川普大嘴巴四年，共和党谁接着他出来都会大败。
哈哈 拜登这次真的是没法选，脑子都浆糊了。
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然并软...... 人家背靠盖蒂和其他几个大家族。~~南希下来了，牛🈸上我觉得这个剧本符合美国纸牌屋逻辑。
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可别，没人求你做活雷锋，我自己一年交几十万的税，说谁吃谁的福利还说不准呢。不喜欢加州赶紧走。你放心，加州再不可能翻红了
那你是眼里的极端。哪一个发达国家没做到全民医疗的。
这事真不好说，要不是有新冠，川普大概率是连任的。。
所以如果川普这次胜选，4年后民众也未必会对他有那么大的恨意，特别是还需要把这种恨意转移到整个共和党身上。。
今天很多讨厌川普的人，可并不如何讨厌Desantis
现在主要就是纽森作为建制派的一员，肯定不可能自己跳出来。。
需要各种背后运作，让佩罗西之类的党内大佬，让捐款的大金主，去劝说拜登主动退 拜登要先宣布自己主动退出，或者起码要先在党内形成这种共识，纽森才能站出来。。
他当了几年副州长是因为老州长Jerry Brown压着他。现在是白等压着他。但他肯定是要竞选总统的，就是时间问题。这次他如果不能出来，下一届肯定要出来。虽然他会掏空一点钱包，但最起码他不会鼓动人针对华人，不会要命。
讨厌德三德子的不少，白瞎了yale本科教育，怎么会教出这么反智的。他老婆吃相太差，也很给他减分。