In the US: We’ll pay employees during the full notification period (minimum 60 days). We’ll also offer a severance package starting at 16 weeks salary plus two weeks for every additional year at Google, and accelerate at least 16 weeks of GSU vesting. We’ll pay 2022 bonuses and remaining vacation time. We’ll be offering 6 months of healthcare, job placement services, and immigration support for those affected.
Alphabet Workers Union (AWU-CWA) @AlphabetWorkers Tonight, Google began another round of needless layoffs. Our members and teammates work hard every day to build great products for our users, and the company cannot continue to fire our coworkers while making billions every quarter. We won’t stop fighting until our jobs are safe!
Twitch has laid off 500 employees, which is 35% of its remaining workforce. It follows Unity, which announced the layoff of around 25% of its staff worldwide yesterday. The layoffs at Twitch, Unity, Microsoft, Google, and other tech companies are partly related to AI technology, as these companies are investing more in developing and integrating AI solutions into their products and services. However, AI technology is not the only factor behind the layoffs, as the tech industry is also facing other challenges, such as economic downturns and market competition. What do you think of AI-related layoffs? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
回复 4楼mailbox9的帖子 https://www.cnbctv18.com/education/google-likely-to-layoff-30000-employees-post-new-ai-innovation-18662731.htm Google likely to layoff 30,000 employees post new AI innovation Google had laid off approximately 12,000 employees, a move Sundar Pichai deemed essential for the company''''s adaptability and capacity to invest in emerging areas amid a transformative global environment. According to a recent report from The Information, Google is considering a substantial workforce reduction, potentially affecting up to 30,000 employees, as part of a strategic move to integrate AI into various aspects of its business processes. The proposed restructuring is anticipated to primarily impact Google''''s ad sales department, where the company is exploring the benefits of leveraging AI for operational efficiency.
美国劳工部去年9月官网就写着程序员会被减少10%。大家没事的时候可以看看劳工部官网，他们常常更新，刚才看了一眼Computer Programmers从2022-2032 要减少11% 了比去年9月预计的还要低了。 Employment of computer programmers is projected to decline 11 percent from 2022 to 2032. www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-programmers.htm 但是Computer Systems Analysts 是未来工作机会比较多的10% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-systems-analysts.htm Information Security Analysts未来需求更多，32% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/information-security-analysts.htm
Physicians and Surgeons3% (As fast as average) 这个去年9月看的时候只有2% 说明需求大一些了。 Overall employment of physicians and surgeons is projected to grow 3 percent from 2022 to 2032 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm Nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners 38% (Much faster than average) employment of nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners is projected to grow 38 percent from 2022 to 2032, www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/nurse-anesthetists-nurse-midwives-and-nurse-practitioners.htm physician assistants 27% (Much faster than average) Employment of physician assistants is projected to grow 27 percent from 2022 to 2032 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physician-assistants.htm Employment of pharmacists is projected to grow 3 percent from 2022 to 2032这个看着需求变大了，去年9月只有2%，前年还是减少2%。说明工作机会比以前多了。 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/pharmacists.htm Employment of registered nurses is projected to grow 6 percent from 2022 to 2032，这个工作机会没以前多，以前看到是15%增长。 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/registered-nurses.htm employment of diagnostic medical sonographers and cardiovascular technologists and technicians is projected to grow 10 percent from 2022 to 2032版上问过的B超技师未来工作机会是比以前多的。10% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/diagnostic-medical-sonographers.htm
处方权下放给NP了，NP外加考过美国医生试准确率高的那个Google 开发的专门针对医疗方面的AI使用，那工作机会还是有变化的。 手术医生这种达芬奇很多手术做不了。 Google''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s medically focused generative artificial intelligence (AI) model achieved 85% accuracy on a U.S. Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) practice test, the highest score ever recorded by an AI model, according to preliminary results shared by the Google Health AI team www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522 A medical domain AI developed by Google Researchers broke records on its ability to pass medical exam questions, but more surprisingly generated answers that were consistently rated as better than human doctors. While the study notes several caveats, it marks a significant milestone in how AI could upend a number of professions. www.artisana.ai/articles/googles-new-medical-ai-passes-medical-exam-and-outperforms-actual-doctors from Google’s research division shows that Med-PaLM 2, their AI language model specifically trained in medical knowledge, scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees. More importantly, a panel of human doctors consistently preferred Med-PaLM 2''''s answers to those offered by actual physicians, a sign of the massive leaps in progress AI models have made in mere months.
处方权下放给NP了，NP外加考过美国医生试准确率高的那个Google 开发的专门针对医疗方面的AI使用，那工作机会还是有变化的。 手术医生这种达芬奇很多手术做不了。 Google''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s medically focused generative artificial intelligence (AI) model achieved 85% accuracy on a U.S. Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) practice test, the highest score ever recorded by an AI model, according to preliminary results shared by the Google Health AI team www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522 A medical domain AI developed by Google Researchers broke records on its ability to pass medical exam questions, but more surprisingly generated answers that were consistently rated as better than human doctors. While the study notes several caveats, it marks a significant milestone in how AI could upend a number of professions. www.artisana.ai/articles/googles-new-medical-ai-passes-medical-exam-and-outperforms-actual-doctors from Google’s research division shows that Med-PaLM 2, their AI language model specifically trained in medical knowledge, scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees. More importantly, a panel of human doctors consistently preferred Med-PaLM 2''''s answers to those offered by actual physicians, a sign of the massive leaps in progress AI models have made in mere months.
的确我也不喜欢找NP看病，因为看过医保付费，花同样的钱为啥不找学得长的MD呢？ 但是现在大的连锁医院开始用Google这个medical generative artificial intelligence (AI) 考过医生执照usmle考试的甚至scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees.。www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522 那么有处方权的NP用上这个AI技术当助手被雇佣的多啊，便宜外加有处方权外加有Google开发的这个AI当助手。你说MD工作机会会和以前一样多吗？现在出现那么多网上医疗，Costco 29块看一次，你觉得用的有处方权工钱便宜但看病收费一样的NP多？还是工钱贵的MD，DO？ 原来都去医生诊所看病的，现在很多小病网上看了，doctorondemand.com医保后自己不用付copay,你觉得与过去相比较医生诊所是不是收入会减少？另外两大实验中心，labcrop 和 quest diagnostics都可以自己网上约检查，并且给予实验结果分析，包含可能问题（这些背后是不是强大的医疗AI支持？）原来需要去医生诊所付钱拿化验单的，比如前几日有人在这里抱怨看结果要再次约诊，这些是不是在减少医生收入？ 所有的结果这两大实验中心官网自己注册后都能看到。
的确我也不喜欢找NP看病，因为看过医保付费，花同样的钱为啥不找学得长的MD呢？ 但是现在大的连锁医院开始用Google这个medical generative artificial intelligence (AI) 考过医生执照usmle考试的甚至scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees.。www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522 那么有处方权的NP用上这个AI技术当助手被雇佣的多啊，便宜外加有处方权外加有Google开发的这个AI当助手。你说MD工作机会会和以前一样多吗？现在出现那么多网上医疗，Costco 29块看一次，你觉得用的有处方权工钱便宜但看病收费一样的NP多？还是工钱贵的MD，DO？ 原来都去医生诊所看病的，现在很多小病网上看了，doctorondemand.com医保后自己不用付copay,你觉得与过去相比较医生诊所是不是收入会减少？另外两大实验中心，labcrop 和 quest diagnostics都可以自己网上约检查，并且给予实验结果分析，包含可能问题（这些背后是不是强大的医疗AI支持？）原来需要去医生诊所付钱拿化验单的，比如前几日有人在这里抱怨看结果要再次约诊，这些是不是在减少医生收入？ 所有的结果这两大实验中心官网自己注册后都能看到。 hellohey 发表于 2024-01-11 11:55
就业不会难，因为全世界都缺医生，但是有了医疗这种AI会帮助现有的医疗工作着更快分型分诊和确诊，还有很多文字输入会更快，医生的收入应该会比原来减少，原因是很多实验室结果可以网上看，不需要再次follow up 约诊看结果再次收一次钱。 外加很多网上便宜医疗。 美国缺医生，中国也是，全世界都缺吧，中国大医院上海十院2017年就引进考过美国医生执照的AI看病了，现在还不是缺医生？美国最大连锁医院HCA是去年8月才引进google AI 的。 m.gelonghui.com/p/144355 “约10秒钟以后，沃森交出了一份详细的“推荐方案”和“不推荐方案”。 在这10秒钟里，究竟发生了什么？ 它穿梭进入看不见的网络，跑了趟美国，在庞大的数据库里阅读了3469本医学专著、248000篇论文、69种治疗方案、61540次实验数据、106000份临床报告。 在返回上海之前，它还把自己的诊疗方案部分内容翻译成了中文。”
The workforce shortage has been increasing since before the COVID-19 pandemic—accelerating at an even more alarming rate thereafter. By 2034, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges, the demand for primary and specialty care physicians will exceed supply by a range of 37,800 to 124,000 physicians. www.boozman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2023/6/usa-today-us-has-a-doctor-shortage-congress-can-help-by-expanding-our-physician-workforce
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有病吧，你是怎么能从我这个回帖里看出我阴暗的？我这个是个马甲，马甲懂不懂，任何人都能穿，不要把别人的回帖就在我头上好吧。
这是去年的吧，写着2022奖金呢。这次的据说没那么好，股票没有提前vest, 亏一大块呢。
想的美，都在裁员，还给你大包裹
合同工不叫裁员
🛋️ 沙发板凳
裁员包这次能有多大？能拿大包的话，被裁是好事，一般都求之不得呢。
多个Org，具体数据不详，一亩地上已经有人受影响
Alphabet Workers Union (AWU-CWA) @AlphabetWorkers
Tonight, Google began another round of needless layoffs. Our members and teammates work hard every day to build great products for our users, and the company cannot continue to fire our coworkers while making billions every quarter. We won’t stop fighting until our jobs are safe!
The layoffs at Twitch, Unity, Microsoft, Google, and other tech companies are partly related to AI technology, as these companies are investing more in developing and integrating AI solutions into their products and services. However, AI technology is not the only factor behind the layoffs, as the tech industry is also facing other challenges, such as economic downturns and market competition.
What do you think of AI-related layoffs? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
不是，别瞎说了。有的一个组从vp开始被雷了
学meta，裁到位。士气大涨，连创新高。
确实看不懂了！
Meta据说也在裁员啊
革命就是AI替代啊，隔壁不是刚贴了
因为股价与公司的利润密切相关，裁人可以提高利润率，所以股票边裁边涨，CEO也可以得到奖励
才知道啊？马工就是这世界上最傻的x。 一边open source，一边搞ai，自掘坟墓说的就是马工。
这得多傻才认为码工能决定要不要open source。
你是据哪里说？给出source，别张口就来
看新闻说Instagram把所有的tpm都裁了
到处都是了吧
https://www.cnbctv18.com/education/google-likely-to-layoff-30000-employees-post-new-ai-innovation-18662731.htm
Google likely to layoff 30,000 employees post new AI innovation
Google had laid off approximately 12,000 employees, a move Sundar Pichai deemed essential for the company''''s adaptability and capacity to invest in emerging areas amid a transformative global environment.
According to a recent report from The Information, Google is considering a substantial workforce reduction, potentially affecting up to 30,000 employees, as part of a strategic move to integrate AI into various aspects of its business processes.
The proposed restructuring is anticipated to primarily impact Google''''s ad sales department, where the company is exploring the benefits of leveraging AI for operational efficiency.
着找工市场也太难消化了吧！
I approve this message, 某清华VP 被烙印搞下去了，被雷。
放心好了，码工最安全。码工就是AI的创造者，AI一定是最后干掉自己的创造者的。
最不安全的，是医生。当然，医生有工会。但AI大潮不是工会能够挡住的。
感觉普通会计更危险。医生应该还不错。
美国劳工部去年9月官网就写着程序员会被减少10%。大家没事的时候可以看看劳工部官网，他们常常更新，刚才看了一眼Computer Programmers从2022-2032 要减少11% 了比去年9月预计的还要低了。 Employment of computer programmers is projected to decline 11 percent from 2022 to 2032. www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-programmers.htm 但是Computer Systems Analysts 是未来工作机会比较多的10% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/computer-systems-analysts.htm
Information Security Analysts未来需求更多，32% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/information-security-analysts.htm
家庭医生也许，真正的专科医生不会。会计，律师这些行业会洗牌
Physicians and Surgeons3% (As fast as average) 这个去年9月看的时候只有2% 说明需求大一些了。 Overall employment of physicians and surgeons is projected to grow 3 percent from 2022 to 2032 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm Nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners 38% (Much faster than average) employment of nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners is projected to grow 38 percent from 2022 to 2032, www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/nurse-anesthetists-nurse-midwives-and-nurse-practitioners.htm physician assistants 27% (Much faster than average) Employment of physician assistants is projected to grow 27 percent from 2022 to 2032 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physician-assistants.htm Employment of pharmacists is projected to grow 3 percent from 2022 to 2032这个看着需求变大了，去年9月只有2%，前年还是减少2%。说明工作机会比以前多了。 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/pharmacists.htm Employment of registered nurses is projected to grow 6 percent from 2022 to 2032，这个工作机会没以前多，以前看到是15%增长。 www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/registered-nurses.htm employment of diagnostic medical sonographers and cardiovascular technologists and technicians is projected to grow 10 percent from 2022 to 2032版上问过的B超技师未来工作机会是比以前多的。10% (Much faster than average) www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/diagnostic-medical-sonographers.htm
资本家给马工开高工资不就是因为雇他们干掘坟墓的活么？ 马工们冲着工资去的根本不管是不是在挖坑，不过他们掘的坟墓可不只埋他们自己。
遥想去年Ai刚开始板上会计说了：Ai对他们没影响。其实Ai对白灵影响确实最大。现在主要机器人不行，看斯坦福的视频笑死了，但是10年以后护士护工都会被影响的，机器人全年无休，出了故障换一台，不需要8小时休息
别担心，现在裁人说明以后拿的包裹更大，华人大妈们更要逼孩子转学CS了。
还是你AI系统好（记忆好）。都忘了有这茬。确实很快大家就来羡慕躺在赚钱的google员工了。
这最近都是边裁边找，这行确实缺人，但是不缺熟练工和老人，特别喜欢找Ng，所以板上各位劝孩子学计算机没错吧。 现在裁的基本还是没有钱景的方向，有钱景的那个方向供不应求。板上这批新毕业生占尽了天时地利，能力强的确实一样拿大包。当然能力不行学计算机找不到工作也正常吧，这行本来就非常残酷，最烦老技术，老人
你不做自然有其他人会去做。没人能阻挡AI发展的步伐。那还不如自己做了
别逗了，现在名校CS新毕业生都在哭爹喊娘找不到工作，最难就是NG
你确定？现在CS最难找工作的是NG，反而是有十几年工作经验的反而容易找工作。
没觉的真正Cs Ng到底对多难找，根正苗红没有身份问题的真的不难找。领导也喜欢名校年轻人很多暑期项目有科研性质，正对当下风口，而且Ng也就是脸家不要，其他家还是有机会，条件好的基本都可以Return，顶多Delay而已。 转码的就算了，这条路确实不通了，专业擦边球的也算了，机械生物的就算了，合作过几个基础太差，那才叫真的完全没有经验，带起来累死了，连最基本的Git都经常出错，还要不停给擦屁股。 这次身边10几年经验的反而找不到什么好的，主要是风口经验不多，基本都是降薪降中场了
我知道的NG没找到工作的不少，其中还有berkely CS的。
码工和码工是两回事 真·码工可是从来瞧不起那些半路出家混coding的
我就是ME想转CS，OMSCS毕业了, GPA4.0, 还有希望么？
有希望，找层主就好。 不仅UCB CS的没工作，还有CMU CS的没工作，能进这些Program的ABC男生可是每个中学的学霸啊 辛苦多年的学霸待业，情以何堪
哈哈，我看层主那个傲娇态度也不像能看得起我们半路出家人的...
外科醫生我們有生之年都沒被取代的可能，第一機器手只能做輔助，第二開刀出事需要活人背鍋
真的无语
别说外科医生了，内科医生也没事，因为医生行会权力很大，医生的处方权等权力不会给电脑的 华人学霸别学CS了，赶紧学医吧
主要这次这个周期太快了，看着很诡异。2022泡泡破了，本来应该会盘整再出发，下一个经济周期开始。然而有AI 风一吹，2023股市又起来了，新的泡泡又开始了，快的真是让人觉得不踏实。 经济周期和科技更新这么快的话企业和资本调整都很难跟上，更别说人才供求和个人的职业发展了。 时代的浪潮越来越快，还好版上的很多人都已经考虑退休了，不然根本跟不上趟。儿孙自有儿孙福吧。
这次似乎裁员不多，媒体说是几百个人，那就是大概0.5%，比去年的6%差远了
他说的大概是国内情况，国内现在就是在裁那些有经验的人，换毕业生，因为招毕业生国家有补贴，而且国内互联网公司平均年龄27，35以上没有转管理岗的就危险了。
几千人吧，几百肯定不止。而且肯定有后续，gbo 这些明显要裁的地儿还没开始呢吧
目前还是泡沫破裂早期吧
这次是各自ORG裁，几百人是指某个ORG，全公司肯定不止几百 亚麻今年也是如此操作 而且不会仅此一次
问题是大家都这么想的话，医生行业也是很卷的
先看看房产中介什么时候能把AI取代再说其他的吧，每个行业都有工会，动他们的蛋糕很难。看看高速上那些乱开的卡车，自动驾驶因为他们的工会无处施展
华尔街会不会被ai取代？他们会不会因为担心自己的工作安全而压制ai发展？
学霸怕卷吗？能进UCB EECS与CMU CS的都是卷天卷地文理双全的硬核学霸，学医卷完了有成果，CS卷完了可能啥都没有
是啊，不少手术达芬奇还做不了。
都不是问题，第一条，人手还能比机械臂更精确更稳定？第二条就更不是问题了，ai公司赔啊，赚那么多钱，赔一点毛毛雨了，ai出事的概率比人小
处方权下放给NP了，NP外加考过美国医生试准确率高的那个Google 开发的专门针对医疗方面的AI使用，那工作机会还是有变化的。 手术医生这种达芬奇很多手术做不了。
Google''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s medically focused generative artificial intelligence (AI) model achieved 85% accuracy on a U.S. Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) practice test, the highest score ever recorded by an AI model, according to preliminary results shared by the Google Health AI team www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522
A medical domain AI developed by Google Researchers broke records on its ability to pass medical exam questions, but more surprisingly generated answers that were consistently rated as better than human doctors. While the study notes several caveats, it marks a significant milestone in how AI could upend a number of professions. www.artisana.ai/articles/googles-new-medical-ai-passes-medical-exam-and-outperforms-actual-doctors
from Google’s research division shows that Med-PaLM 2, their AI language model specifically trained in medical knowledge, scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees. More importantly, a panel of human doctors consistently preferred Med-PaLM 2''''s answers to those offered by actual physicians, a sign of the massive leaps in progress AI models have made in mere months.
无论怎样大家还是更喜欢找MD看病，而不是NP。 美国就算给猫狗看病都很贵，家里的宠物去一次医院就要几百，听说有动手术的要几万刀
不可能。花街最稳
金融策略是零和游戏。很好奇如果大规模被ai替代后，会不会最后变成ai技术的比拼。如果真这样，本科毕业凭年轻力盛做trader的道路就差不多被堵死了，只有有能力做算法研发的程序员和科班出身的phd才有可能进入这个行业的门槛。这也太恐怖了。
的确我也不喜欢找NP看病，因为看过医保付费，花同样的钱为啥不找学得长的MD呢？ 但是现在大的连锁医院开始用Google这个medical generative artificial intelligence (AI) 考过医生执照usmle考试的甚至scored an astounding 86.5% on a question set styled after the US Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE), well surpassing the typical 60% pass threshold for human examinees.。www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/103522
那么有处方权的NP用上这个AI技术当助手被雇佣的多啊，便宜外加有处方权外加有Google开发的这个AI当助手。你说MD工作机会会和以前一样多吗？现在出现那么多网上医疗，Costco 29块看一次，你觉得用的有处方权工钱便宜但看病收费一样的NP多？还是工钱贵的MD，DO？ 原来都去医生诊所看病的，现在很多小病网上看了，doctorondemand.com医保后自己不用付copay,你觉得与过去相比较医生诊所是不是收入会减少？另外两大实验中心，labcrop 和 quest diagnostics都可以自己网上约检查，并且给予实验结果分析，包含可能问题（这些背后是不是强大的医疗AI支持？）原来需要去医生诊所付钱拿化验单的，比如前几日有人在这里抱怨看结果要再次约诊，这些是不是在减少医生收入？ 所有的结果这两大实验中心官网自己注册后都能看到。
你看到都是一些表象，但医生还是不够，现实世界是你要约个专科医生很难。就说说最简单的家庭医生，我自己的普通医疗机构普通家庭医生，本来三个月见一次，但最近说太忙了，看不过来，以后频率减半，改为半年一次，把病人向外推，你觉得医生会就业难吗？
就业不会难，因为全世界都缺医生，但是有了医疗这种AI会帮助现有的医疗工作着更快分型分诊和确诊，还有很多文字输入会更快，医生的收入应该会比原来减少，原因是很多实验室结果可以网上看，不需要再次follow up 约诊看结果再次收一次钱。 外加很多网上便宜医疗。
美国缺医生，中国也是，全世界都缺吧，中国大医院上海十院2017年就引进考过美国医生执照的AI看病了，现在还不是缺医生？美国最大连锁医院HCA是去年8月才引进google AI 的。 m.gelonghui.com/p/144355 “约10秒钟以后，沃森交出了一份详细的“推荐方案”和“不推荐方案”。 在这10秒钟里，究竟发生了什么？ 它穿梭进入看不见的网络，跑了趟美国，在庞大的数据库里阅读了3469本医学专著、248000篇论文、69种治疗方案、61540次实验数据、106000份临床报告。 在返回上海之前，它还把自己的诊疗方案部分内容翻译成了中文。”
The workforce shortage has been increasing since before the COVID-19 pandemic—accelerating at an even more alarming rate thereafter. By 2034, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges, the demand for primary and specialty care physicians will exceed supply by a range of 37,800 to 124,000 physicians. www.boozman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2023/6/usa-today-us-has-a-doctor-shortage-congress-can-help-by-expanding-our-physician-workforce