LA deputy fatally shooting woman in front of child 就前两天还看了个视频,女的打电话说前男友来骚扰,俩警察去了,女的开了门手里拿着刀,然后跟前男友很近站着,警察就开枪了,当着女的九岁孩子的面,四枪打死,前男友还在那儿喊干嘛开枪…… 冰糖梨 发表于 2024-01-04 16:39
LA deputy fatally shooting woman in front of child 就前两天还看了个视频,女的打电话说前男友来骚扰,俩警察去了,女的开了门手里拿着刀,然后跟前男友很近站着,警察就开枪了,当着女的九岁孩子的面,四枪打死,前男友还在那儿喊干嘛开枪…… 冰糖梨 发表于 2024-01-04 16:39
有病的是你吧,被扇一巴掌和被用拳头或者操家伙打是一回事吗,家暴请报警,请离婚,但不是被扇了一巴掌就一定要打911的. 被家暴打了911后,不当天搬出门马上分居的,要么是浪费公众资源,要么就是脑子有问题 It was just a kind reminder. If you think that I was trying to educate anyone, then maybe you do need to be educated.
有病的是你吧,被扇一巴掌和被用拳头或者操家伙打是一回事吗,家暴请报警,请离婚,但不是被扇了一巴掌就一定要打911的. 被家暴打了911后,不当天搬出门马上分居的,要么是浪费公众资源,要么就是脑子有问题 It was just a kind reminder. If you think that I was trying to educate anyone, then maybe you do need to be educated. WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 20:27
我怎么瞎建议了,我说了自己判断是不是有生命危险. 911 is an emergency line, should be only reserved to people who are really in need. It seems many people don't know there is a non-emergency police line. Even if one doesn't want to call the police, he/she still can file a police report afterwards. The most important thing is to remove oneself from an abusive relationship, and there are many different hotlines to help domestic violence victims. The girl you just mentioned should have left her abusive boyfriend long before the worst happened, . The truth is that most domestic victims who ended up killed didn't make the right call to leave their abusers.
我就是提醒报警也有两种方式,请不要abuse公众资源.非紧急情况占用911资源,会让真正需要的人得不到救助. 隔壁打911的真实意图怎样,我无法判断,不过我愿意给她benefit of the doubt. 如果是为了离婚做准备,abuse公众资源的人, shame on them! WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 15:22
有病的是你吧,被扇一巴掌和被用拳头或者操家伙打是一回事吗,家暴请报警,请离婚,但不是被扇了一巴掌就一定要打911的. 被家暴打了911后,不当天搬出门马上分居的,要么是浪费公众资源,要么就是脑子有问题 It was just a kind reminder. If you think that I was trying to educate anyone, then maybe you do need to be educated. WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 20:27
Don't twist my words, I never said that it is a small matter, but I don't think she was in any life threatening danger considering how they fought in the past. As I said, if one dials 911 because of domestic violence, please follow through to move away from the abuser. If not, I would make an educated guess that something was wrong. There are more than one way to report domestic violence to the police other than dialing 911, period.
Don''t twist my words, I never said that it is a small matter, but I don''t think she was in any life threatening danger considering how they fought in the past. As I said, if one dials 911 because of domestic violence, please follow through to move away from the abuser. If not, I would make an educated guess that something was wrong. There are more than one way to report domestic violence to the police other than dialing 911, period.
WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 21:38
你的educated guess就是大家必须尊重的标准吗? 生活中大部分事儿都是more than one way, 这次人家只是选择了更适合人家的way,没 follow 你的 way而已, 这就算是错了吗?
The big difference between your kind and me is that I am willing to give other people the benefit of the doubt, and you clearly only want to speculate about me with the worst intentions. Perhaps name-calling is the only way that you believe you could win a discussion. I will stop responding, as I do believe in the "never wrestle with pigs" quote.
我怎么瞎建议了,我说了自己判断是不是有生命危险. 911 is an emergency line, should be only reserved to people who are really in need. It seems many people don't know there is a non-emergency police line. Even if one doesn't want to call the police, he/she still can file a police report afterwards. The most important thing is to remove oneself from an abusive relationship, and there are many different hotlines to help domestic violence victims. The girl you just mentioned should have left her abusive boyfriend long before the worst happened, . The truth is that most domestic victims who ended up killed didn't make the right call to leave their abusers. WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 21:12
您英文好去reddit上说,建议丈夫打人,妻子别打911,因为不算emergency,她没有那么需要帮助, 运气好没被打死再慢慢file a police report,看看几个同意的。 最后劝您放弃那套受害者有罪论,我早饭都要吐出来了。
我就是提醒报警也有两种方式,请不要abuse公众资源.非紧急情况占用911资源,会让真正需要的人得不到救助. 隔壁打911的真实意图怎样,我无法判断,不过我愿意给她benefit of the doubt. 如果是为了离婚做准备,abuse公众资源的人, shame on them! WebConsole 发表于 2024-01-04 15:22
那个是老婆打911为离婚的孩子抚养权留案底作准备。那个楼主说了平时双方都动手的。
现在夫妻打架报警Da会立案的知识,已很普及。
我就是提醒报警也有两种方式,请不要abuse公众资源.非紧急情况占用911资源,会让真正需要的人得不到救助.
隔壁打911的真实意图怎样,我无法判断,不过我愿意给她benefit of the doubt. 如果是为了离婚做准备,abuse公众资源的人, shame on them!
很多人以为是110,警察叔叔来了帮你口头批评下
楼主是针对隔壁帖有感。那个帖子里,平时老婆也脾气差动手扇巴掌的。
动手打人是肯定不对的。打小孩或者青春期孩子打父母,都是不对的。
那些被打死的有几个一开始就知道会被打死的?那些动手打的可能都不知道,很多是一冲动酿成悲剧。
被打死的是判断失误,跟我说的毫不相干,要是引申开来,我也可以说,所有因为911来得不及时,而死的都是另一个abuse 911的人害死的 还有仔细看我写的,我说的是911不是报警与否.我提醒就是很多象你这样的,以为报警=911
劳工留了案底没有工作只有回国一条路,她想单妈靠自己的收入养2个toddlers?
国内搬过来的家妇是很可能的
单妈在美国养两个toddlers 也比被家暴强,,这里的单妈有很多福利照顾的,更没有歧视。 对孩子们更好! 难道让他们在家暴环境中长大吗?
老婆也动手?
孩子太惨了,这是什么环境啊?
警察误shoot 家暴受害者多,还是受害者被打死打伤的多?
楼里变着法子吓唬女人被打别报警的索男们在怕什么?难道他们都是打老婆的?
是的,警察911出警都是做最坏准备的,事态怎么发展全靠警察当场的判断
这楼里谁说了不报警了
大部分人过日子都到不了被打死打伤的程度,夫妻之间如果这点共识都没有,还是早早分开别害人害己。 叫了警察那就是俩人的命捏在陌生人手里了,如果对拿枪的陌生人的信任了解超过对自己配偶的信任了解,还是那句话,造离早好。
911会判断的。在受到人身威胁的时候,不管看起来多么小的机会,一定要打911。911觉得没必要会转到311的。尤其你说到吵架,吵架的时候很少有能能控制住自己的情绪。 当然我不是只强调女性一定要打911,我看了几天前的一个帖子,在感觉伴侣情绪激动有暴力倾向的时候,男性也应该打911
单妈时不时扇老公耳光,如果老公不在自己苦逼养娃,是不是只能扇孩子了?
I am not even going to dignify that with a response.
很多人脑子依旧停留在“夫妻打架居委会来劝劝就结了”。
没错,美国这边都是劝victims勇敢地报警,勇敢地离开batterers。 这里却像居委会大妈大叔在劝架。
这些人真在美国吗?
一群不了解美国的在这里忽悠吓唬人。
敢扇孩子自然要打911, CPS 赶紧来。
就是要自我判断,不要把打911当作报复要挟的一种手段, 911 is an emergency line and should only be used in emergency situations.
建议lz以后别瞎建议了。真有生命危险才开始报警?还是先跑吧。
只要是真打了,只要没对警方撒谎,就不可能是“报复要挟”。 都被打了, batterers 受到法律的惩罚,叫做justice,不叫“报复要挟”。
怀念“打老婆自由”的应该回到大男子主义社会。这是美国!
Shame on you! Even with what you just said, I would not say that you deserve to be beaten up.
一般第一次打,很少概率会直接打死
所以报警其实不一定是必须的,但是家暴发生第一次后,赶紧下定决心离婚是真的
准备离婚的更应该报警,留了案底好争抚养权,难道要跟家暴者joint custody?不怕宝贝娃会被打吗? 连报警的勇气都没有的人,怎么会有勇气离婚?
严重同意
报复要挟在此是中性,被打人报复要挟也正常,打了人当然要被惩罚,只不过真正需要911的公众不应该同样被惩罚.报警不是只有打911一种方式.
层主您没看那隔壁帖,这位楼主开楼是因为那个原帖而来。
那老婆脾气不好,之前也动手扇老公耳光。是她这次报警估计就是为离婚作准备,先了老公一步。两人全武行的风格的确不适合在一起,离了保平安。
谢谢帮我解释
确实没看隔壁贴。女打男,男的也该报警啊。这两口子就不配有娃。
有病吧,警察都没教育,要你来教育
被家暴了还不叫紧急,哪叫?非要先丢了一半的命吗?
不死就不配报警了?不死就不能用911了?
911自己都不敢这么定
有病的是你吧,被扇一巴掌和被用拳头或者操家伙打是一回事吗,家暴请报警,请离婚,但不是被扇了一巴掌就一定要打911的. 被家暴打了911后,不当天搬出门马上分居的,要么是浪费公众资源,要么就是脑子有问题 It was just a kind reminder. If you think that I was trying to educate anyone, then maybe you do need to be educated.
做事要三思。家人内部矛盾非要报警,脑子有毛病
一帮大妈跟老农村妇女一样,男的打人是女的不贤惠,女的敢报警就是反天了一定是因为脑子有毛病。 是都挨过老公打见不得别人不挨打吗,也不知道都在哪个山沟里找的乡下老公。
就是啊, 人家警察和挨打的本人都没判断,你隔着个十万八千里几个网页, 听了打人的人几句废话,立马这么感同身受地急着在这里上窜下跳地判断干啥。 是挨了老公几耳光觉得哎呀我都忍了别人女的怎么敢报警吗= =~~~~~ 有些人比较cheap挨了男人耳光还往上贴的,但是你就不要出来丢脸啊。
这些拉着不让报警的应该都是男的。哄,骗,吓唬,威逼利诱,什么招都使出来了。
打老公/老婆/孩子算“家人内部矛盾”? ! 这么怀念男权社会,为什么来美国?人来了,脑子和思维方式却留在那里。
我怎么瞎建议了,我说了自己判断是不是有生命危险. 911 is an emergency line, should be only reserved to people who are really in need. It seems many people don't know there is a non-emergency police line. Even if one doesn't want to call the police, he/she still can file a police report afterwards. The most important thing is to remove oneself from an abusive relationship, and there are many different hotlines to help domestic violence victims. The girl you just mentioned should have left her abusive boyfriend long before the worst happened, . The truth is that most domestic victims who ended up killed didn't make the right call to leave their abusers.
我觉得她已经到了紧急关头了。
楼主觉得那是小事,因为你随意被人扇耳光觉得没事? 还是你只是想随意扇别人耳光?
At this moment, I find that the "Never wrestle with pigs" quote is indeed very true.
他想让他的观点被顶起来。
小心机男。
一个巴掌后女人可能还能保持清醒,有能打911的能力。 一个拳头过去,女人还有机会打911吗?一个人能站和打911你就这么看不顺眼,非要人只能趴地上爬着去找电话你才认同是合理? 还是那句话,要是警察觉得出警不合理了,早就当场教育打电话的人了,警察都不认为行为不妥,你又算个啥?
911三个数字早记心里了,不用想就能找到帮助。难道这时候说,我要先去查一下最近警察局的非紧急电话是多少?
911后警察自然教报警人该怎么做,轮不到你来评论让你家该做什么不该做什么的。
还什么kind reminder, 别给自己脸上贴金。 不去骂施暴的人,反而挑剔受害者,你就根本不懂啥叫kind
你会读中文吗
我只是说不是必须的,根本没提到不可以
你自己在脑补啥?
Don't twist my words, I never said that it is a small matter, but I don't think she was in any life threatening danger considering how they fought in the past. As I said, if one dials 911 because of domestic violence, please follow through to move away from the abuser. If not, I would make an educated guess that something was wrong. There are more than one way to report domestic violence to the police other than dialing 911, period.
你的educated guess就是大家必须尊重的标准吗?
生活中大部分事儿都是more than one way, 这次人家只是选择了更适合人家的way,没 follow 你的 way而已, 这就算是错了吗?
The big difference between your kind and me is that I am willing to give other people the benefit of the doubt, and you clearly only want to speculate about me with the worst intentions. Perhaps name-calling is the only way that you believe you could win a discussion. I will stop responding, as I do believe in the "never wrestle with pigs" quote.
您英文好去reddit上说,建议丈夫打人,妻子别打911,因为不算emergency,她没有那么需要帮助, 运气好没被打死再慢慢file a police report,看看几个同意的。 最后劝您放弃那套受害者有罪论,我早饭都要吐出来了。
但是如果是那种互殴的,男的只是还手并没有凭借体力优势也控制还手力度的,女方根本不怕的那种,而且女方还不想离婚的,那为啥报警呢, 报警了男的被抓女的还哭哭唧唧的后悔。。。
就是这个道理
如果每个冲突都打911,估计你还是死,警察根本分身乏术
谨慎的不同意。大家都是成年人,吵架归吵架,谁动手,无论男女,另外一方都应该911。要知道有第一次就有第二次,有第二次,后面程度就有可能更大。
处在那个境地 男的动起手来, 一般女的不太容易判断,到底会不会升级,是否需要打911,
事后说这些没用
你这种所谓的 浪费公共资源的说法, 就有些装圣母了,
绝大部分的人都和你一样具备基本常识,
你得很多人同一时间,一起打911打着玩,而同一时间所在地区又正好同时有大量的真正需要警力资源的案件,才有可能造成你说的情况,警力资源不够,而导致正经事情得不到救助。
觉得被打一下不要紧的,有时候被打第二下就死了。
中国男人本来就不像白人黑人这么暴力,没啥致命性。家暴起来还不知道是谁先打的谁呢。
到时候夫妻双方都动手,互相指责,夫妻把监护权丢了。
这是想红还是想黑…“中国男人不像白人黑人这么暴力,就没啥致命性”。你咋不说中国男人不是男人呢?
开什么玩笑,中国没家暴吗? 男女力量悬殊。我去健身房练好几个月,勉强举个十磅。我看进来个瘦瘦的小伙,也没啥训练痕迹,咔咔上来就举5、60。记住了,男的跟女的打架,根本不需要费劲就能给女的打坏了。谨慎点不是错,不然家暴打死的都哪来的?情况不好该报警就报警,你没办法确认什么是生命危险。像那个帖子里家里还有枪的,人情绪一上来指不定会发生什么。每年枪打死家人朋友远远多于打死坏人的。每年枪击被杀的完全是陌生人开枪打死的只占20%,其余都是家人朋友。买枪要三思。
Re. 国男打一下,摔个盘子的那种跟老美暴力打得鼻青脸肿段骨头的不是一种性质,国内一个老领居一生气就掀桌子砸了多少盘子,偶尔也给他老婆一巴掌,每次不是女儿女婿过来调解,就是居委会片儿警来人调解,到老也没真的把老太怎样,要在这里老太如果报警,绝对得坐牢因为一地盘子菜特别狼藉,每次大呼小叫的在这里也绝对算abuse,其实老头平时挺疼老太的,也极少对她动手,据说几十年也就三四次,每次就一下,不像这边老美打起来是真打,能打青打断骨头,这种一定要报警