之前雇主的 401K转出来了,存在 fidelity 的 rollover IRA 账户里 另外还有一个 traditional IRA 和 roth IRA 账号,两个账号 balance 都是0 想请问,如果存自己税后的钱到 traditional IRA 再转到 Roth IRA的话,这个操作可以成功免税吗? 问题的关键是, rollover IRA 的钱会不会造成查从 traditional 都 roth convert 的过程中被税?
会的。要做backdoor roth 的话 401k不应该转成IRA。 The IRS' pro-rata rule requires you to include all of your traditional IRA assets—that means your IRAs funded with pretax (deductible) contributions as well as those funded with after-tax (nondeductible) contributions—when figuring the conversion's taxes. Then, you pay a proportional amount of taxes on the original account's pretax contributions and earnings. Say you contribute $6,000 to a nondeductible traditional IRA. You also have a rollover IRA worth $94,000 from a previous 401(k) made with pretax contributions. In this case, 94% of any conversion would be taxable. Here's the math: Total value of both accounts = $100,000 Pretax contributions = $94,000 After-tax contribution: $6,000 $6,000÷$100,000 (expressed as percentage) = 6.0% $6,000 (the amount converted) x 6.0% = $360 tax-free $6,000 - $360 = $5,640 subject to income tax
401K 转到 IRA 如果没有交税 就是 regular IRA。 regular IRA转到 Roth IRA 能不能给你省些税 是取决于 自己现在和 将来的收入和税收状况。 我没转 是因为现在在 高州税州 (加州,NY 也是),将来退休可以考虑搬去没有州税的州。
playForever 发表于 2023-12-22 00:12
所以你的意思是,我即使把6500 刀存到 balance 为0的 traditional IRA里 把这6500转到 Roth IRA 里,还是会收税,因为 traditional IRA 和 rollover IRA是被视作为一起的 IRS分不清这6500到底是 rollover 转出来的,还是 traditional IRA 转出来的?
所以你的意思是,我即使把6500 刀存到 balance 为0的 traditional IRA里 把这6500转到 Roth IRA 里,还是会收税,因为 traditional IRA 和 rollover IRA是被视作为一起的 IRS分不清这6500到底是 rollover 转出来的,还是 traditional IRA 转出来的? SDCreates 发表于 2023-12-22 00:20
是的,你要把这部分按它占所有traditional ira的百分比,交了盈利部分的税,之后才能转Roth ira。不是说你单开一个新的traditional ira,就不用管existing traditional ira balance了。
问题的关键是, rollover IRA 的钱会不会造成查从 traditional 都 roth convert 的过程中被税?
The IRS' pro-rata rule requires you to include all of your traditional IRA assets—that means your IRAs funded with pretax (deductible) contributions as well as those funded with after-tax (nondeductible) contributions—when figuring the conversion's taxes. Then, you pay a proportional amount of taxes on the original account's pretax contributions and earnings. Say you contribute $6,000 to a nondeductible traditional IRA. You also have a rollover IRA worth $94,000 from a previous 401(k) made with pretax contributions. In this case, 94% of any conversion would be taxable. Here's the math: Total value of both accounts = $100,000 Pretax contributions = $94,000 After-tax contribution: $6,000 $6,000÷$100,000 (expressed as percentage) = 6.0% $6,000 (the amount converted) x 6.0% = $360 tax-free $6,000 - $360 = $5,640 subject to income tax
谢谢,现在的雇主没有 401K
所以你的意思是,我即使把6500 刀存到 balance 为0的 traditional IRA里 把这6500转到 Roth IRA 里,还是会收税,因为 traditional IRA 和 rollover IRA是被视作为一起的 IRS分不清这6500到底是 rollover 转出来的,还是 traditional IRA 转出来的?
是的,你要把这部分按它占所有traditional ira的百分比,交了盈利部分的税,之后才能转Roth ira。不是说你单开一个新的traditional ira,就不用管existing traditional ira balance了。
谢谢解惑
那你转出来?自己先建个solo 401K吧,我忘了我是怎么建的了,建完就直接roll over into solo 401K