前几天的新闻 Ohio woman’s miscarriage leads to ‘abuse of corpse’ case before grand jury By Alyssa Guzman Published Dec. 6, 2023, 6:17 p.m. ET Brittany Watts, 33, has been accused of the felony charge after clogging a toilet with her baby and leaving the child there while “she went on with her day,” prosecutors said. However, forensic pathologist, George Sterbenz, testified the fetus was “non-viable” due to “premature ruptured membranes” as Watts water broke early, according to WKBN. “The fetus was too young to be delivered,” Sterbenz said. The forensic pathologist added that the autopsy report found no injury to the fetus and the baby had died before passing through the birth canal. Watts says she felt the baby coming out at 22 weeks and then there was a “big splash,” according to the local outlet. Prosecutors alleged she tried to “plunge” the toilet afterward and left the baby for dead in the toilet.
因为她坐在马桶上的时候流产了，那时胎儿22个星期 Watts was handed a felony charge after the traumatizing events of Sept. 22, when she sat on the toilet at 22 weeks of pregnancy and felt the baby passing through, according to the Warren Police Department. Watts heard a “big splash,” a detective said in court last month. By the time police responded to her home, they said the fetus’ remains were stuck in the toilet. Prosecutors practically made Watts out to be a monster, saying she tried to “plunge” the fetus down the drain and left the child floating in the basin while going about her day. However, Watts’ attorneys say she’s being punished for a rather normal occurrence: The Lancet found in a 2021 report Black women had a 43 percent higher risk of miscarrying in comparison to white women. https://www.theroot.com/what-black-woman-s-miscarriage-results-in-felony-char-1851080208
Cox is currently carrying a pregnancy with virtually no chance the baby -- who has trisomy 18 -- will survive to birth or long afterward. She's said she has been denied the safest form of abortion care for her -- a dilation and evacuation procedure. The CRR would not disclose when or where Cox plans to obtain her abortion care due to safety concerns. In an interview the night before the ruling, Cox told ABC News' Rachel Scott that she was shocked to hear from her doctor that she could not get the care she wanted in Texas. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hearing-underway-texas-woman-court-emergency-abortion/story?id=105455849
因为她坐在马桶上的时候流产了，那时胎儿22个星期 Watts was handed a felony charge after the traumatizing events of Sept. 22, when she sat on the toilet at 22 weeks of pregnancy and felt the baby passing through, according to the Warren Police Department. Watts heard a “big splash,” a detective said in court last month. By the time police responded to her home, they said the fetus’ remains were stuck in the toilet. Prosecutors practically made Watts out to be a monster, saying she tried to “plunge” the fetus down the drain and left the child floating in the basin while going about her day. However, Watts’ attorneys say she’s being punished for a rather normal occurrence: The Lancet found in a 2021 report Black women had a 43 percent higher risk of miscarrying in comparison to white women. https://www.theroot.com/what-black-woman-s-miscarriage-results-in-felony-char-1851080208 落地无声 发表于 2023-12-09 16:39
Cox is currently carrying a pregnancy with virtually no chance the baby -- who has trisomy 18 -- will survive to birth or long afterward. She's said she has been denied the safest form of abortion care for her -- a dilation and evacuation procedure. The CRR would not disclose when or where Cox plans to obtain her abortion care due to safety concerns. In an interview the night before the ruling, Cox told ABC News' Rachel Scott that she was shocked to hear from her doctor that she could not get the care she wanted in Texas. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hearing-underway-texas-woman-court-emergency-abortion/story?id=105455849
落地无声 发表于 2023-12-09 16:42
这个挺蠢的。。。 孩子生出来政府又不给养。 本来还能偷偷new mexico or colorado。。。 现在上了新闻她连偷偷abort的选项都没有了。
大名顶顶啊，more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was indicted 5 years ago. He still hasn't gone to trial. Read our timeline covering delays and side battles in the long-running securities fraud case against Paxton. BY EMMA PLATOFF JUNE 19, 2019 https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/19/ken-paxton-criminal-case-timeline-texas-attorney-general-fraud/ TheTexas Senate on Saturday acquitted Attorney General Ken Paxton of 16 articles of impeachment alleging corruption and bribery, his most artful escape in a career spent courting controversy and skirting consequences of scandal. No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict.Sep 16, 2023 https://www.texastribune.org/2023/09/16/ken-paxton-acquitted-impeachment-texas-attorney-general/#:~:text=The%20Texas%20Senate%20on%20Saturday,required%2021%20votes%20to%20convict. No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict. Only two of 19 Republican Senators, Bob Nichols of Jacksonville and Kelly Hancock of North Richland Hills, voted in favor of convicting for any article — a stark contrast to the more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Paxton, who attended just two days of the trial and was not present to witness his exoneration, was characteristically defiant.
The forensic pathologist added that the autopsy report found no injury to the fetus and the baby had died before passing through the birth canal. 是尸检确定婴儿死亡时间吧。这女的在流产之前知道会是死产?
The forensic pathologist added that the autopsy report found no injury to the fetus and the baby had died before passing through the birth canal. 是尸检确定婴儿死亡时间吧。这女的在流产之前知道会是死产? amberyc 发表于 2023-12-09 17:18
大名顶顶啊，more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was indicted 5 years ago. He still hasn't gone to trial. Read our timeline covering delays and side battles in the long-running securities fraud case against Paxton. BY EMMA PLATOFF JUNE 19, 2019 https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/19/ken-paxton-criminal-case-timeline-texas-attorney-general-fraud/ TheTexas Senate on Saturday acquitted Attorney General Ken Paxton of 16 articles of impeachment alleging corruption and bribery, his most artful escape in a career spent courting controversy and skirting consequences of scandal. No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict.Sep 16, 2023 https://www.texastribune.org/2023/09/16/ken-paxton-acquitted-impeachment-texas-attorney-general/#:~:text=The%20Texas%20Senate%20on%20Saturday,required%2021%20votes%20to%20convict. No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict. Only two of 19 Republican Senators, Bob Nichols of Jacksonville and Kelly Hancock of North Richland Hills, voted in favor of convicting for any article — a stark contrast to the more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Paxton, who attended just two days of the trial and was not present to witness his exoneration, was characteristically defiant. 落地无声 发表于 2023-12-09 17:05
还看到一个： Paxton initiated a lawsuit seeking to have the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) ruled unconstitutional in its entirety.[62] 这人就是纯坏。这种人看到穷人、弱势群体（女性）难受他就很开心。所以红州真的不能去，一不小心碰到这种纯坏的恶人还能操控法律怎么死的都不知道
Paxton sued the Obama administration over a 2016 rule by the United States Department of Labor which would have made five million additional workers eligible for overtime pay. The rule would have meant workers earning up to an annual salary of $47,500 would become eligible for overtime pay when working more than 40 hours per week.[93] Paxton has said the new regulations "may lead to disastrous consequences for our economy". Along with Texas, twenty other states have joined the lawsuit.[94]
Washington — Republicans in the Ohio state legislature are threatening to strip state courts of their authority to review cases related to Issue 1, the ballot measure approved by voters on Tuesday that established a right to abortion in the state constitution. A group of four state GOP lawmakers announced their plans in a press release Thursday, which also teased forthcoming legislative action in response to voters' approval of the reproductive rights initiative. "Issue 1 doesn't repeal a single Ohio law, in fact, it doesn't even mention one," state Rep. Bill Dean said in a statement. "The amendment's language is dangerously vague and unconstrained, and can be weaponized to attack parental rights or defend rapists, pedophiles, and human traffickers." https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ohio-abortion-issue-1-republicans-judiciary/ ohio的gop和Wisconsin的gop一个德行， GOP talk of impeaching Wisconsin justice is latest example of delegitimizing political defeats First Read is your briefing from “Meet the Press” and the NBC Political Unit on the day’s most i
Watts was handed a felony charge after the traumatizing events of Sept. 22, when she sat on the toilet at 22 weeks of pregnancy and felt the baby passing through, according to the Warren Police Department. Watts heard a “big splash,” a detective said in court last month. By the time police responded to her home, they said the fetus’ remains were stuck in the toilet. 前两天是9/22号么？那时还没选举，Ohio依旧是心跳法 The case was closed on Nov. 2 but was reopened, according to the court docket. Warren Municipal Court Judge Terry Inavchak found probable cause to move the case forward, seeking more experts to confirm at what point something — in this case, the baby — becomes viable, per WKBN’s report.
这是反科学还是故意的？
前几天的新闻 Ohio woman’s miscarriage leads to ‘abuse of corpse’ case before grand jury
By Alyssa Guzman Published Dec. 6, 2023, 6:17 p.m. ET
Brittany Watts, 33, has been accused of the felony charge after clogging a toilet with her baby and leaving the child there while “she went on with her day,” prosecutors said. However, forensic pathologist, George Sterbenz, testified the fetus was “non-viable” due to “premature ruptured membranes” as Watts water broke early, according to WKBN. “The fetus was too young to be delivered,” Sterbenz said. The forensic pathologist added that the autopsy report found no injury to the fetus and the baby had died before passing through the birth canal. Watts says she felt the baby coming out at 22 weeks and then there was a “big splash,” according to the local outlet. Prosecutors alleged she tried to “plunge” the toilet afterward and left the baby for dead in the toilet.
既反科学又故意。
因为神棍们当上了大法官
然后下届总统说了
别提1修，trump上台美国宪法没用了
"pro life"
神棍们蓄谋已久, 成功了而已.
pro-birth
对啊。。。正常情况下也是捞出来赶紧去医院吧？ 怎么就上了plunger还继续该干嘛干嘛呢？ 调查调查也是应该的。。。
为什么被判定无法存活有细节嘛？
因为她坐在马桶上的时候流产了，那时胎儿22个星期
Watts was handed a felony charge after the traumatizing events of Sept. 22, when she sat on the toilet at 22 weeks of pregnancy and felt the baby passing through, according to the Warren Police Department. Watts heard a “big splash,” a detective said in court last month. By the time police responded to her home, they said the fetus’ remains were stuck in the toilet.
Prosecutors practically made Watts out to be a monster, saying she tried to “plunge” the fetus down the drain and left the child floating in the basin while going about her day. However, Watts’ attorneys say she’s being punished for a rather normal occurrence: The Lancet found in a 2021 report Black women had a 43 percent higher risk of miscarrying in comparison to white women.
https://www.theroot.com/what-black-woman-s-miscarriage-results-in-felony-char-1851080208
Cox is currently carrying a pregnancy with virtually no chance the baby -- who has trisomy 18 -- will survive to birth or long afterward. She's said she has been denied the safest form of abortion care for her -- a dilation and evacuation procedure. The CRR would not disclose when or where Cox plans to obtain her abortion care due to safety concerns. In an interview the night before the ruling, Cox told ABC News' Rachel Scott that she was shocked to hear from her doctor that she could not get the care she wanted in Texas.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hearing-underway-texas-woman-court-emergency-abortion/story?id=105455849
这是挺残忍的。说到底并不知道婴儿是不是活产。
22星期很早 基本必死无疑 但是不是绝对。。。 这真是个灰色的地带。。。
流产是normal occurence不过。。。马桶冲走自己的fetus也算嘛？ 警察多久respond的？准妈妈有没有主动联系nicu联系救护车？
是个魔鬼女人。正常人不是马上捞起来叫救护车吗？
这个挺蠢的。。。
孩子生出来政府又不给养。 本来还能偷偷new mexico or colorado。。。 现在上了新闻她连偷偷abort的选项都没有了。
网上有庭审的视频，你可以看看，好像前几天看到医生作证胎儿流产前就没了 22星期的孩子多大了？也许她并不知道自己流产了？我也是猜测，和你一样
丫们唯一的目的是pro-bible
大名顶顶啊，more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was indicted 5 years ago. He still hasn't gone to trial. Read our timeline covering delays and side battles in the long-running securities fraud case against Paxton. BY EMMA PLATOFF JUNE 19, 2019 https://www.texastribune.org/2019/06/19/ken-paxton-criminal-case-timeline-texas-attorney-general-fraud/
TheTexas Senate on Saturday acquitted Attorney General Ken Paxton of 16 articles of impeachment alleging corruption and bribery, his most artful escape in a career spent courting controversy and skirting consequences of scandal. No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict.Sep 16, 2023 https://www.texastribune.org/2023/09/16/ken-paxton-acquitted-impeachment-texas-attorney-general/#:~:text=The%20Texas%20Senate%20on%20Saturday,required%2021%20votes%20to%20convict.
No article received more than 14 of the required 21 votes to convict. Only two of 19 Republican Senators, Bob Nichols of Jacksonville and Kelly Hancock of North Richland Hills, voted in favor of convicting for any article — a stark contrast to the more than 70% of House Republicans who impeached the attorney general in May. Paxton, who attended just two days of the trial and was not present to witness his exoneration, was characteristically defiant.
多大不重要 nicu很多是22周还尝试救一下（当然大概率不能救活） 24周救活的概率就大一点（当然还是有很多developmental problems） 最早的活下来的早产儿是21周5天（虽然我也一直没明白这个精确到天数是怎么算出来的，大姨妈又不准）
医生如果证明已经不是活胎了 周数早的话，正常程序就发回家等着流产，不能自己流再回医生那里处理。 而22周应该已经不能发回家了，需要在医生那里处理，做那个dilation and evacuation procedure 好像还是满蹊跷的。。。
是尸检确定婴儿死亡时间吧。这女的在流产之前知道会是死产?
我觉得那个妈妈是Panic了，知道本州的法律有多可怕
嗷嗷谢谢！ 信我，这人是非常清楚地知道自己在做什么。法学博士毕业，他不是蠢，他就是想让别人痛苦
昨天有id还说gop是law & order，开啥国际玩笑
还看到一个： Paxton initiated a lawsuit seeking to have the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) ruled unconstitutional in its entirety.[62]
这人就是纯坏。这种人看到穷人、弱势群体（女性）难受他就很开心。所以红州真的不能去，一不小心碰到这种纯坏的恶人还能操控法律怎么死的都不知道
德州一个州长，一个AG，都是这路货色。搞笑的是，红脖还次次都选他
你是说那个妈妈是因为俄亥俄的反堕胎法panic吗？俄亥俄州长之前是签了有心跳以后就不能打胎的法，但是很快就被法官block了，上个月俄亥俄选民还投票支持将reproductive right加入州宪法，所以俄亥俄州并没有德州那样变态的反堕胎法。
看出来了，德州似乎选的都是些神经病
Washington — Republicans in the Ohio state legislature are threatening to strip state courts of their authority to review cases related to Issue 1, the ballot measure approved by voters on Tuesday that established a right to abortion in the state constitution. A group of four state GOP lawmakers announced their plans in a press release Thursday, which also teased forthcoming legislative action in response to voters' approval of the reproductive rights initiative. "Issue 1 doesn't repeal a single Ohio law, in fact, it doesn't even mention one," state Rep. Bill Dean said in a statement. "The amendment's language is dangerously vague and unconstrained, and can be weaponized to attack parental rights or defend rapists, pedophiles, and human traffickers." https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ohio-abortion-issue-1-republicans-judiciary/
ohio的gop和Wisconsin的gop一个德行，
GOP talk of impeaching Wisconsin justice is latest example of delegitimizing political defeats First Read is your briefing from “Meet the Press” and the NBC Political Unit on the day’s most i
可德州怎么选了这么一群王八蛋？
估计不会，他挪用公款包小三照样蹦跶
德州女选民不知道是怎么想的
喜欢选包小三的family man 这种女选民里不少和坐在联邦高等法院高堂上的侍女大法官差不多的
本来光明正大的自由和权利，为什么要偷偷？？
这样还能blame victim也是够可以的了…
胚胎6个月才有一点点存活可能。
我没有blame victim
就是光明正大的自由和权力啊。。。
但是如果你是肚里有孩子那个妈妈 你是赶紧偷偷去外州堕胎，还是慢慢的先争取权力？ 堕胎比较紧急，月份越晚对身体伤害比较大。。。 是我的话我就偷偷跑出去堕胎，权力只能回头再说。
你发的是一个月前的旧文了，这个提议已经被州内其他GOP给否了，根本没下文。两天前issue 1正式实施，22周以内堕胎合法。
说人家蠢算什么？让别人偷偷摸摸做违反她自己州法律的事就聪明了？！
Watts was handed a felony charge after the traumatizing events of Sept. 22, when she sat on the toilet at 22 weeks of pregnancy and felt the baby passing through, according to the Warren Police Department. Watts heard a “big splash,” a detective said in court last month. By the time police responded to her home, they said the fetus’ remains were stuck in the toilet. 前两天是9/22号么？那时还没选举，Ohio依旧是心跳法 The case was closed on Nov. 2 but was reopened, according to the court docket. Warren Municipal Court Judge Terry Inavchak found probable cause to move the case forward, seeking more experts to confirm at what point something — in this case, the baby — becomes viable, per WKBN’s report.
我是说政府这个法律蠢 这种non viable情况 明知道生出来活不了几天 九成以上活不过一年 还非要人家生人家养然后再经受失去孩子的痛苦
偷偷跑出去堕胎也是犯罪，知情的人帮助她的都犯罪。何况产检也是自己一直看的医生，正常人听到胎儿有问题都不会想着偷偷溜出外州找不认识的医生来做手术吧？不是和医生商量好然后守法地争取到了括免吗。只有不正常的政客才会漠视母婴到健康，为了政治目的而控制别人的身体，赤裸裸的独裁法西斯！
麻烦多做做功课，2022年6月心跳法在俄亥俄州实施，但是在同年9月就被court block了， 总共就实施了三个月都不到。 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Ohio
这个案子是今年9月发生的，当时心跳法没有实施，22周以内堕胎合法。