你别在这里忽悠楼主了。 人家年收入才30万出头， 就算从小学上起，谁来guarantee 藤校？ 上了Trinity School都不能保证， 更何况Pingry这种2流私校？（在New Jersey 确实算顶级， 我说的2流是全美国 ） 你知道Trinity School的家长都是些什么背景吗？要录取多么难吗？ “If your end goal is Ivy, going through Pingry is pretty much guaranteed.” zxy2018 发表于 2023-12-08 00:15
看看藤校录取比例最高的顶级私校， 这个排名最客观， 最靠谱。这14家里， 纽约城里7个， MA 3个， NH 2个， CA 2个 www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/top-us-private-schools-with-the-most-graduates-getting-into-ivy-league-universities-13325695 Top US Private Schools with the Most Graduates Getting Into Ivy League Universities 14. The College Preparatory School, Oakland, CA Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 29% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 9-12: $38,670 Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 8:1 Notable Alumni: HTC founder Cher Wang and video game pioneer Mark Cerny Though it''''''''s the newest school on the list, founded in 1960, College Prep has a distinguished reputation and is giving the East Coast establishment schools some competition to reckon with. At College Prep, 132 students of the Class of 2015 took 251 AP exams in 18 different subjects. 93% of the scores received were a 4 or a 5. It is no wonder, then, that the school boasts a 100% college matriculation rate for all students. Image placeholder title 13. Phillips Exeter Academy, Exeter, NH Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 29% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 9-12 and postgrad, $47,790 boarding. Day, $36,800. Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 5:1 Notable Alumni: Author Gore Vidal and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg
Primarily a boarding school, Exeter was founded in 1781 specifically to prepare students for admission to Harvard University. Exeter''''''''s commitment to diversity is unparalleled; 46 different states and 34 different countries are represented in the student body. It''''''''s known for the Harkness plan, a participatory teaching method that fosters collaboration and support in the learning process. A key tenant to the Harkness Plan is that all classes must take place at a special oval Harkness Table, so that each class size is limited to 12. Image placeholder title 12. Harvard-Westlake School, Los Angeles, CA Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 30% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 7-12, $34,700 Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 8:1 Notable Alumni: Candice Bergen, Jake Gyllenhaal, Marc Harmon, Shirley Temple, Myrna Loy and astronaut Sally Ride This is only one of two schools on the list located on the West Coast. Harvard-Westlake boasts a stellar academic reputation, as evidenced by the performance of this year''''''''s graduates on the ACT/SAT. 2016 graduates scored on average 697 on the SAT in critical reading, 710 on math and 707 on the writing portion of the exam. HW''''''''s students both past and present include countless glittering Hollywood surnames, and it also boasts a championship water polo team.
Image placeholder title 11. Chapin, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 30% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-12, $41,100 Student Body: All girls Student/faculty ratio: 7:1 Notable Alumni: Jacqueline Onassis Kennedy, Sigourney Weaver, Ivanka Trump and fashion designer Vera Wang Founded over a century ago, Chapin is located on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, overlooking the East River. The all-female independent day school, while incredibly strong in academics, places a great emphasis on learning fostered outside of the classroom. For instance, seniors are encouraged to pursue independent study in a topic of their choosing. Recent examples have included in-depth studies of: leukemia stem cells, photographic images of wildlife in Greenland and Iceland, videogame design, and Biblical allusions in Shakespeare. Image placeholder title 10. St. Paul''''''''s School, Concord, NH Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 30% Tuition (2015-2016): $57,985 (includes, room, fees and expenses) Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 5:1 Notable Alumni: Secretary of State John Kerry, former FBI director Robert Mueller and banker J. P. Morgan, Jr.
By far the most expensive school on this list, St. Paul''''''''s is a boarding school set on 2,000 pastoral acres. It boasts state-of-the art facilities that include a performing arts center, 95,000 square-foot athletic and fitness center, two ice hockey rinks, nine athletic fields and more. Image placeholder title 9. The Dalton School, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 31% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-12: $42,960 Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 7:1 Notable Alumni: Anderson Cooper, Christian Slater, Chevy Chase, Claire Danes and sci-fi author Samuel R. Delany The Dalton School is located off Manhattan''''''''s Park Avenue, just a few blocks from the Spence School. It''''''''s known for a teaching approach called the Dalton Plan, which adapts education to each child''''''''s needs and fosters choice and responsibility. Image placeholder title 8. The Winsor School, Boston, MA Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~31% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 5-12, $42,400 Student Body: All girls Student/faculty ratio: 7:1 Notable alumni: Celebrated sixties socialite Babe Paley and entrepreneur Lesley Dewan, one of Time magazine''''''''s "30 People Under 30 Changing the World" Once known as Miss Winsor''''''''s School, the school has long-standing Ivy League ties, and Harvard president Charles William Eliot was one of its original incorporators. Ahead of its time, this school, which predates the suffragette movement, was founded to "prepare women to be self-supporting." In addition to its long-standing standard of academic excellence, Winsor encourages its students to be leaders by participating in national conferences, including the Student Diversity Leadership conference and the National Coalition of Girls'''''''' Schools conference. Image placeholder title 7. The Spence School, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 33% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-12, $45,150 Student Body: All girls Student/faculty ratio: 7:1 Notable Alumni: Gwyneth Paltrow, Jade Jagger (daughter of Mick), and author Francine du Plessix Gray
The Spence School was founded in 1892, based on what was then a forward-thinking belief - that women should have the opportunity to receive a quality education. It''''''''s located just steps from New York''''''''s Central Park and a short walk from the Guggenheim Museum and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Spence has a long-standing tradition of academic excellence, admitting only one of every 10 applicants. Image placeholder title 6. Phillips Academy Andover, Andover, MA Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 33% Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 5:1 Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 9-12 Boarding, $48,850. Day, $38,000. Notable Alumni: George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush and Humphrey Bogart Known simply as Andover, this school has deep roots in American history. John Hancock signed its articles of incorporation, Paul Revere engraved its seal, and George Washington sent his nephews there. The student body today is equally impressive. In 2013, 455 candidates sat for 897 AP examinations. Of those, 59% scored a 5, the highest possible score, and 27% received a 4. Moreover, of the graduating class of 2014, 28 students were nominated as Merit Semifinalists and 2 students were named as Achievement Semifinalists in the National Merit Scholarship Program. 5. Roxbury Latin School, West Roxbury, MA Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 36% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades 7-12, $29,300 Student Body: All boys Student/faculty ratio: 7:1 Notable Alumni: Yale founder, James Pierpont, and former Harvard president, James Bryant Conant This prep school in was founded in 1645, during the reign of King Charles I - more than a century before the American Revolution. It is, in fact, the oldest continuously operating school in the U.S. It''s commitment to academics is evidenced by the median SAT scores of the graduating class of 2015, boasting a 720 in critical reading, 750 in math, and an average score of 740 in writing. 89% of the scores of the AP courses generated by the class of 2015 were either a 4 or 5 (61% scored the highest mark, 5). It''s also one of the least expensive of our Top 14. Image placeholder title 4. Horace Mann School, The Bronx, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 36% Tuition (2015-2016): Half-Day Nursery, $32,300. Nursery-Grade 12, $45,000. Student Body: Co-ed Student/faculty ratio: 12:1 Notable alumni: Jack Kerouac and former NY Governor Eliot Spitzer Horace Mann School''s Ivy League ties go back to 1887, when it was founded as an educational experiment at the Columbia University Teachers College. The coed, independent day school not only focuses on preparation for the Ivy League, but their stated mission also emphasizes caring for others, with 80 hours of community service required for graduation. Image placeholder title 3. Brearly School, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 37 Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-12, $43,680 Student Body: All girls Student/faculty ratio: 6:1 Notable Alumni: Kyra Sedgwick, classic movie star Anne Baxter and model Kim Stolz. Brearly, located on Manhattan''s posh Upper East Side, has long-standing Ivy League ties and was founded in 1871 by Harvard graduate Samuel A. Brearley, Jr. The all-female day school holds true to its commitment to diversity, with 44% of the student body comprised of students of color. The school fosters an "adventurous intellect" and stresses critical thinking and creativity.
Image placeholder title 2. Collegiate School, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 40% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-12, $43,400 Student Body: All boys Student/Faculty Ratio: 5:1 Notable Alumni: John F. Kennedy, Jr. and David Duchovny Another venerable institution on New York''s Upper West Side, Collegiate School, was established in 1628. The all-boys preparatory school is known for its small collaborative class sizes, boasting an average student to teacher ratio of 5:1. Collegiate School is known not only for academic achievement, evidenced by the average combined SAT score of (2195), but also for its outstanding soccer team, ranked as the best amongst private schools in New York State. Image placeholder title 1. Trinity School, New York, NY Percentage admitted to Ivy League ~ 40% Tuition (2015-2016): Grades K-11, $42,540. Grade 12, $43,320. Student/Faculty ratio: 6:1 Student Body: Co-ed Notable Alumni: John McEnroe and Larry Hagman
Located on Manhattan''s Upper West Side, Trinity is notably at the top of the list. The institution was founded more than 300 years ago as a school for the poor and was originally supported by charity. Its classes are considered the best in the nation, with its core curriculum focused on "inquiry-based" learning. Catering to grades K-12, Trinity now has an average enrollment of 960. The senior class is compromised of 113 students, 28% of which receive financial aid. Of the 214 students who took Advanced Placement classes in 2013, 93% received grades of 3 or higher. 77% received grades of 4 or 5. Approximately 41% of its graduates attended prestigious Ivy League colleges.
涨到多少没有钱的压力？
这也太夸张了吧？好好推自己吧，多赚钱是正经
真理，顶私里面拼的也是父母。其实哪里都是
不是28%的学生拿fa吗？不过估计拿fa的都是卷王
层主就等着你问这个问题呢～
呼唤层主bso
说得就是，完全不知道私校大门冲哪里开就在这里犯愁学费够不够，这不就是还没买彩票就计划好要是中了几亿大奖该怎么花？
二娃房贷又高，没必要去私立
私立都是助学金。可能那家有business报低收入你不知道而已
32万竟然能到手 （17K*12）20.4万，新泽西州，你确信？不存401K？
这么便宜当然要送 harker 六万多了
别吹了，harker 也就是高中才六万零五百，小学跟pingry 差不多
优点：顶私确实有很多资源普通学校无法比拟的，比如直接进去NYSE玩模拟trade啊，去UN开啥会做志愿者接待各国代表之类。但这些经历有啥“干货”就见仁见智了。
缺点：主要就是穷人日子难过。他对高中的回忆就是很累很累，每天训练完出门一溜豪车都是家里的司机来接人，自己累得半死还得坐一个小时地铁回家。ex整个高中没有一个保持联系的朋友，听上去甚至就没有朋友，他的说法一是其他同学大都是从小读上来的有自己的圈子，二是其他同学觉得他一个outsider这么出色都嫉妒他？？这个顶私很多著名校友，他自己也说曾经的同学现在大部分就是金融法律政治（是男校），当然这个network对他也没啥用，他跟人没联系。
是啊，而且和后面年级的申请比起来，K的工作量基本可以忽略吧，毕竟孩子小，没啥可考的。
不是很建议。第一和其他同学收入差别有些大。其次，出来不见的能上好大学。你如果纯粹为了孩子有个好的关系网拿可以送。
美国好公校也免费啊 贵就贵在大学 就没有便宜的 旗舰州大可能算便宜了 但也只限自己州
是这样的。有时看着好私校也有一堆上州立的，很可能是从小上的。然后这些从小上的家长，会不断被考进去的孩子的水平震惊。最后出成绩的其实很多也是后面考进去的。从小上这个事，虽然是容易，但是并不占便宜。
如果能进Rutgers医学院 那也不错呀
理解楼主，申请顶私的确很费力。没确定经济实力的确不能轻举妄动。
这种说话阴阳怪气的评论默认就是楼主家娃不行，真TM恶心。说的申请私校和买菜一样。
打个不恰当的比喻，就像没确诊癌症就让人去化疗，居心叵测。
送一个私立，另一个公立，是因为私立这个是儿子么？
你这真是嫌家里矛盾少，没有矛盾创造矛盾也要上呀。
17%已经很多了啊
这高中没朋友多难受啊，你EX后来去的大学好吗
其实这种比例都没有意义，Trinity这种40%藤校率绝大多数都是legacy。你家娃进去了也是陪跑的。
我们去参加过招生咨询，人家明确说K这波录取基本只考虑legacy。普通家庭去机会非常小。
体育乐器牛娃也很多，比公立要卷多了，靠实力去的都是聪明的孩子，好大学录取比例有限的，所有顶私一半或接近一半去了一般的大学，考上顶私的孩子在公立突出在私立不一定厉害了
楼主是不是没放多少401k？
529也没存呗
我N年前听我朋友说她亲戚也是普通中产，砸锅卖铁的送女儿去了私校，孩子受不了和同学的家境的落差，总是问父母，为什么别人家都有大豪宅和游泳池，咱家没有，到青春期时看着精神都有些不正常了。
我们收入现在不高，曾经是非常低，娃是送私立的。我们试过很多学校，公立，便宜的私立，最贵的私立。我给MM推荐去私立： 教育，老师是完全不一样的。升学是一个考虑，但是教育更是。教育不仅有数理化，文科的教育，还有接人待物，表达和性格培养。 家庭收入如果父母一直不放弃自己的努力，是会提高的。 别人开大车，我们乘纽约地铁，如果家里教育得当，孩子会更努力。关键是娃要自信，那么娃在学校学习要好，这个父母是可以帮的。 私立在小学注重性格的培养，高中再进去完全错过了最重要的教育。
现在亚裔确实越来越多了，我们town一个年级就转去了pingry四个华人孩子，他们的弟弟妹妹后来也都去了，容易很多。看看过去的大学placement和录取率，感觉如果孩子以后想学医学CS或者类似理工科学校, 比如Cornell/CMU/UIUC/Purdue，还有MIT这种硬核竞赛大学，没必要去顶级私立，只要孩子真聪明学习足够好就行。如果想去藤校学人文金融经济法律，可以去试试，学校升学指导/大学关系和校友方面有很大优势，很多毕业的孩子都去了这些学校和专业。和人打交道的行业在私立塑造的个性还是不错的。
我们也有一样的烦恼，还是穷。
那是9-12的。Pingry是K-12
我能问一下120万是怎么算的吗？我数学不好
Lawrenceville 和Pingry的细节录取标准不太一样，知道至少两个学习特别好的孩子，高中考上了Lawrenceville，但是却都被Pingry拒了，还有Millburn那个天才奥数华人牛娃，去年美国奥数国家队里最小的孩子，也被Pingry拒了.
申请到了再纠结吧。
pingry不用穿校服
是只送一个？不患寡而患不均啊
Lawrenceville只有高中啊😂
我尊重这种想法但是完全不赞同。世界上有很多生活的方式，尤其是美国。好学区公校不但教育好，而且有各种各样家庭背景的孩子，你的孩子可以学到很多，很努力，但不孤单。
在几乎全部同学家境都比自己好的前提下，在他们父母能提供多得多的资源下，自己的一切却都要靠自己来一点点挣，而且努力一辈子也赶不上同学父母的积累。除非孩子先天非常强大，你培养的不是自信，是用来掩饰自卑的一张壳，无论这壳多么光鲜亮丽。
不知道这培养的是什么性格
我觉得年薪百万的适合送私校，家长压力不会太大，私校平时放假多钱少的话住的远孩子家长都辛苦。
会被鄙视，同学很多春寒暑假都是去国外各地去玩、高级酒店
你说的几乎全部同学家庭都比自己好这个结论是怎么得来的？在一个助学金资助率达到一半的学校，楼主家这个条件已经妥妥的高于中位数。查了一下pingry， 18%的助学金资助。
Pingry附近的公校估计还达不到17%吧。
你房贷开支占税后比例还是挺高的，其他只算5000是很抠很抠的，但如果还年轻，又非常想让孩子进私立，且预计几年内收入能翻番的话，可以去挤一挤，不过这几年肯定很辛苦就是了。
普通收入娃就进好公校，多攒点上大学的学费。老早的把钱都月光花在中小学顶级私立，以后真要进藤，藤的学费也很高啊。
帖子里好多人说周围公校好 可是周围最好的公校millburn high也就2%的藤校+stanford+mit录取率
就想知道如何判断是自信还是自卑的壳？
孩子的性格培养主要的难道不是在家里吗？学校才是辅助式的吧。
我认识和接触顶级私校的家庭都是很富裕的，家庭收入50W+，还有上百万的，每年给学校捐款赞助等等。也有知道不到50W的，妈妈全职主妇，那就是跟着学校搞各种活动等等。
楼主别觉得去私校光是砸钱就行了，这么小的孩子去学校，家长的社交也是必不可少的，当然你说你完全不管这些也不是不可以。
真心觉得没必要硬撑着去私校，除非你和你家孩子性格足够强大坚韧。
但是考虑到私校家庭的资源不觉得很好。而且几年前是25%不知道为什么下降那么多
学生群不一样。公立差学生多，私立好学生多，不能这么算的，比如国内重点高中和普高学生质量区别大啊，普高也可能有牛娃但比例小太多了
绝对不是中位数。我觉得五六十万中位数差不多
她说是壳那就是壳咯
我作为在DC的顶私家长（我自己也是做教育咨询的）给楼主建议： 首先，要根据自己孩子的性格特点，爱好，what type of learner he/she is，来决定孩子适不适合私校。 第二，每个私校的特点，mission，教学风格都不同，进入私校后，尤其是顶级私校，要考虑的是，学校能给孩子带来什么，你孩子各方面发展的空间大吗？优势能发挥出来吗？同时，你的孩子（和家庭）又能给学校带来什么？ 第三，能不能fit in（不仅是孩子，还有家长），以为在私校如果从K开始读，一路就是13年，交友圈也比较小，social也是一个要考虑的地方。我曾经见过从中国直接移民来的家庭，想办法进了纽约顶私，但是发现和人家老钱还是差距比较大（主要是家长适应不了，觉得无法融入），后来又转出来的。
我过去三年辅导过很多在DMV地区，纽约，新泽西，和波士顿地区申请顶私的家庭，这些顶私（学费4-6万多美元的）里的家庭，以DC地区为例，据我了解家庭收入大部分在50-200万美元之间，并不是大家想象的都是家族trust fund, 巨富，很多都是双职工高收入的，也有一定比例拿financial aid, 30-50万的收入有点撑，如果只有一个娃的话可能还好。
我这里有一篇文章讲择校时需要考虑的因素，希望可以帮助到楼主。
什么样的家庭适合私校？私校择校时需要考虑的因素有哪些？ https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzkzMDU1MzE2Nw==&mid=2247483833&idx=1&sn=2493ec7142797da6c966ab82b51c9c63&chksm=c279cd99f50e448fa31df810af1702e67415142766aaf4f26db647596d7f35aca84d41a3f522&token=1134115626&lang=en_US#rd
聊聊我为什么选择私校以及公校和私校的区别 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzkzMDU1MzE2Nw==&mid=2247483789&idx=1&sn=071e4c86f73a28c6ba1897a3df6b547e&chksm=c279cdadf50e44bb6c43fe1fbcf851e2debdb27fb9871bf48f47012b656ee7306dbaca68dc14&token=1134115626&lang=en_US#rd
应该是算上 两个小孩都上吧？
会明确给你一个建议的捐款数额， 每家都不一样的。 你要自己打个 五折 来捐 估计也没什么大事。
问一下你们说的藤校是耶普哈斯大藤还是包括了小藤？
包括小藤吧。要是大藤+stanford+mit有17%，那我也搬过去。哈哈！
学费每年会涨，一年5%很正常。30w 税前还是不要凑这种热闹。