以色列总人口大概是30-35%觉得两国方案可行,没看到按照年龄数据。虽然我觉得常理下以色列维持和平的意愿会高些,they have more to lose in the war。不过内塔尼亚胡控制的以色列在发疯状态也很难预测。 没有强外力压着这两个能互相掐到天荒地老。 郁闷的树洞 发表于 2023-11-06 12:57
Chuck Schumer encourages Democrats to more forcefully push Senate GOP on new Ukraine aid Schumer told Senate Democrats to more urgently engage with Republicans on Ukraine during a leadership call on Tuesday morning. BURGESS EVERETT 11/07/2023, 9:37AM ETUPDATED: 11/07/2023, 10:28AM ET Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is encouraging Democrats to more forcefully push Senate Republicans on approving new aid for Ukraine given the hazy path forward in the House GOP, according to two people familiar with the conversations. Schumer told Senate Democrats to more urgently engage with Republicans on Ukraine during a leadership call on Tuesday morning, according to a person familiar with the conversations, singling out the Senate GOP's border proposal as perilous to Ukraine funding. House and Senate Republicans are seeking to link border security with Ukraine aid, but their Monday proposal was rejected out of hand by Democrats and there are no real bipartisan talks occurring on Capitol Hill at the moment. "Senate Republicans basically copied large chunks of the House's radical [border security] bill. And that's the asking price for funding Ukraine?" Schumer said on Tuesday morning. He called it a "huge mistake," though he said he remained open to broader discussions about border security and immigration reform. Congress is at risk of leaving out Ukraine aid from any deal to fund the government before Thanksgiving recess. This would be a replay of September when the House GOP passed a Ukraine-free spending bill and punted the debate on aid to the war-torn country to later in the fall. Now, Speaker Mike Johnson is seeking to move just Israel aid and deal with Ukraine later in tandem with the border, though his Israel proposal's cuts to IRS funding turned off most Democrats. Senate Republicans are mostly deferential to Johnson so far, in light of the stronger opposition to Ukraine aid in the House GOP. The government must be funded by Nov. 17, providing a possible vehicle for parts of President Joe Biden's supplemental request to hitch a ride — but there's no clear path on that, either. At the moment tens of billions for Ukraine, Israel, the border and Taiwan are all at risk of being left on the sidelines, and there's no clear funding plan for avoiding a shutdown, either. The Senate Democratic Caucus is expected to discuss Ukraine at its weekly party lunch on Tuesday as well as all the other outstanding issues, while House Republicans hash out the matter on Tuesday morning.
你是说那个校官死了13个,列兵死了12个的那个数据?已经是军迷全世界的笑话了。
也就说死了13个团长营长(里面还有上校旅长),结果就死了13个列兵?没看过这种笑话的
最变态的苏联红军,也只是连排政委指导员冲在最前面,这倒好了,以色列是旅长带着团长营长搞万岁冲锋, 而且内塔尼亚胡的侄子也恰巧带着20个人的特种部下地道,也恰巧之后他侄子死了
备注:內塔的侄子是,以色列的101伞兵营的副营长,营狙击部队指挥官。
小声问一句,这帮人拿了钱,搬哪去?
带着50万美元搬去埃及,live like a king吧
搬美国,问题解决,美国全方位的支持以色列,这点小事应该不在话下,美国地大物博,不只是解决了以巴问题,也得到了精壮人口,而鱿鱼得了土地,巴勒斯坦人也能有点正常生活,皆大欢喜
你们其实都对。
346是10/7/2023 开始算的 34是加沙地面进攻开始算的
有句说句,这比人家俄罗斯的操作缺德多了。
这个难以相信。我想是不会上战场的。
贴链接吧。
确实,重刑犯用在战场没什么问题,他们有能力作战,但把唐氏儿用在战场,没有任何作战能力,只能当人肉沙包,可见以色列政府的邪恶程度,而国际上的各种类型的人权组织居然都选择无视,可见这些个人权组织没有一个是真正的在为人权,都是为了利益
而且重刑犯好歹是自己犯罪在先,唐氏儿招谁惹谁了?这不就是小胡子搞的种族纯化那一套吗?
哈哈哈哈哈哈 疯犹精,好有才
两国方案,
但以色列不肯退出已经占领的土地,
原因是 以色列最近十多年, 人口增长了很多,需要更多的土地
加沙虽小,确实是巴勒斯坦地区少有的适合居住的土地。巴勒斯坦人都能住两百万,让以色列吃下来,五年之内就能建成中东明珠,住三四百万人不在话下。既有良港,弄不好海上还有天然气,以色列肯定垂涎已久。
这个傻冒显然不明白往屁股大的加沙仍核弹的后果是特拉维夫都逃不掉
后来的以色列官员否决这个idea 不过是明白了以上的后果,而不是良心发现
以色列又不是没占领过加沙。
你说对了 加沙附近海域确实有大量天然气。在十月七号之前,以色列本来就要联合埃及和巴解共同开发这片天然气田
现在军事技术变革很大, 先进的发射后不管的反坦克导弹 的普及应用, 让装甲兵处境岌岌可危, 而廉价作战用无人机技术的普及,让传统“弱” 军,也有了跟 强大军事力量叫板的 能力 而世界上除了GPS以外的替代地球定位系统的普及,让美国垄断和关闭军事定位的能力受到严重削弱
至于步兵战术能力, 这个不维持相当数量的老兵,且常年高强度作训,压根实现不了, 前面鹅毛吃了亏,现在犹太人继续吃这个亏
完全没有可比性。重刑犯能活下来就免罪了。这些唐氏就是孩子啊。
其实建立以色列的犹太复国主义者,在整个二战中前期都在和纳粹合作排犹
他们的动机是,借助纳粹把欧洲犹太人赶到巴勒斯坦,以色列建国就方便多了
纳粹也给了他们很多特权。纳粹治下唯一允许存在的犹太人组织,就是复国组织。
只不过没想到纳粹在战局不利的时候,决定一劳永逸灭绝欧洲犹太人
你这是以偏概全,你讲的是其中的一个极端组织,就是那个制造了代尔亚辛村屠杀的那个。阿拉伯人不也跑去纳粹那边组建了阿拉伯军团,其主要工作就是各种屠杀。
犹太复国主义大会于1897年在瑞士巴塞尔举行。 布尔什维克在1911年十月革命中推翻沙皇, 建立苏维埃政权。 从列宁托落斯机到其卡秘密警察苏联红军之父都是犹太人。 犹太复国主义和布尔什维克有着密切联系,德国纳粹上台是二十多年后的事。但欧洲反犹太历史可就长了,德国纳粹上台后把反犹太就是反共产画上等号。
海森堡导师是犹太裔波尔, 31岁获得诺贝尔奖(狄拉克和李正道也是)。海森堡整天和一帮犹太物理学家混在一起。 talk like Jewish, walk like Jewish. 纳粹狂热分子要把海森堡一家投入集中营。 盖世太保一看这还了得, 盖世太保头目赶快出面澄清, 否则德国纳粹核子计划没有领军人物。
https://www.physics.ucla.edu/~moszkowski/histnucl/np30/heisjp.htm
这种思路行得通,这个世界早就实现共产主义了
后面的金主不要挣的吗,军火商不要赚钱的吗,真的以为民主就是人民做主啊
还有这么多世代的家仇,
真的钱到位了,分到屁民手里的有多少
看着你一本正经的讨论战争军事上的胜败,就感觉莫名搞笑
这场战争里,有谁真的怀疑过以色列会打不过哈马斯么? 少则几周,多则几个月,以色列就会把哈马斯暂时铲除,这是肯定的
这场战争的看点从来都是铲除哈马斯的过程中,美国和以色列在全球外交和政治战场要付出多少代价 战争结束后的那些年会有多少哈驴斯冒出来
一个美国人和一个中国人在争论谁的国家好
美国人:我敢在白宫外骂美国总统,你能吗?
中国人:这有什么,我也敢在天安门骂美国领导人
美国人:你这个反犹分子!
注:全美已有37个州(下图紫色部分)立法禁止反对以色列政府。
天龙人就是厉害
这联合国能否有些实际行动可以马上停火的,比如把美国以色列从联合国踢走,然后把各国一些先进武器运到叙利亚伊拉克黎巴嫩来强制以色列。或者让全世界各国跟以色列断交,断绝经济往来。希望联合国能快点有些实际有效的行动,光是说不行。
你咋知道这些的?你兄弟在雅虎下面当差?
我最近刷tiktok,经常能刷到以色列士兵,有男有女,在那搔首弄姿的视频。一开始我还想,这尼玛是士兵,还是特殊行业工作者啊?
后来想转了。是以色列把特殊行业工作者给拉来当兵了。
gaza离tel aviv 才40公里。以色列扔核弹,这是准备同归于尽了。
诡异的是官兵死亡比率。 兵只有十几个。其他全是官。有个坦克营就死了一个人,就是营长。
工资是公开信息。一个月不到3000新谢克尔。然后超市里一瓶可乐是14--17块不等。所以一个月工资只能买200多瓶可乐(330l装的)。换算成中国,就是600人民币而已。
另外特拉维夫餐馆里一个六寸的披萨要25美元。
安理会如果能达成一致 联合国就可以出动多国维和部队,就可以制裁以色列。奈何美国有一票否决的权利,搞得联合国无法动弹
这不是不想出钱又想赶人才战争么,如果大方估计世界一大半的纷争都没有了
有啥好搞笑的,因为这个帖子本就是在煞有介事地讨论以色列前线战况不妙啊!
主要是哈马斯没有空军
13个校官,包括旅长,团长,营长。 尉官就不用说了,感觉就是当作士兵用。
但是,只有12个大头兵。
还60多辆坦克?你有没有概念60辆坦克是个什么建制?
这次看到联合国真的没什么用了,美国包庇以色列可以横着走。那以后美国和以色列继续把中东其他国家铲平也可以了。
是梅卡瓦坦克和雌虎步兵战车, 不过我看到的就有30多个。 各种车辆加起来是60多个把。
可能以色列的兵比将领金贵,都省着用吧
其实就是,你家里没关系,连讣告都进不去。
联合国本来就是个屁, 小布什轰炸萨达姆, 谁敢拦?北约轰炸南斯拉夫也没人敢挡。
当时科索沃好像死了几百人, 北约就认为那是种族灭绝。 哈哈。
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is encouraging Democrats to more forcefully push Senate Republicans on approving new aid for Ukraine given the hazy path forward in the House GOP, according to two people familiar with the conversations. Schumer told Senate Democrats to more urgently engage with Republicans on Ukraine during a leadership call on Tuesday morning, according to a person familiar with the conversations, singling out the Senate GOP's border proposal as perilous to Ukraine funding. House and Senate Republicans are seeking to link border security with Ukraine aid, but their Monday proposal was rejected out of hand by Democrats and there are no real bipartisan talks occurring on Capitol Hill at the moment. "Senate Republicans basically copied large chunks of the House's radical [border security] bill. And that's the asking price for funding Ukraine?" Schumer said on Tuesday morning. He called it a "huge mistake," though he said he remained open to broader discussions about border security and immigration reform. Congress is at risk of leaving out Ukraine aid from any deal to fund the government before Thanksgiving recess. This would be a replay of September when the House GOP passed a Ukraine-free spending bill and punted the debate on aid to the war-torn country to later in the fall. Now, Speaker Mike Johnson is seeking to move just Israel aid and deal with Ukraine later in tandem with the border, though his Israel proposal's cuts to IRS funding turned off most Democrats. Senate Republicans are mostly deferential to Johnson so far, in light of the stronger opposition to Ukraine aid in the House GOP. The government must be funded by Nov. 17, providing a possible vehicle for parts of President Joe Biden's supplemental request to hitch a ride — but there's no clear path on that, either. At the moment tens of billions for Ukraine, Israel, the border and Taiwan are all at risk of being left on the sidelines, and there's no clear funding plan for avoiding a shutdown, either. The Senate Democratic Caucus is expected to discuss Ukraine at its weekly party lunch on Tuesday as well as all the other outstanding issues, while House Republicans hash out the matter on Tuesday morning.
擦,真是畜生啊,这根元首有啥区别?
小人得志, 基本上就是这幅嘴脸
有没有可能他们一直这样?
还有中国人。别忘了,卖鸦片买卖华人当猪仔当奴隶以及新疆暴乱
被手下干掉的?还是整个营只有光棍司令营长?