https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/17aygw4/aita_for_telling_my_wife_she_is_crazy_for_wanting/?share_id=--FvjdURUb6kqN2Xn8bfF&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1 AITA for telling my wife she is crazy for wanting to pay her parents the same amount of money I owe my parents in student loans. I have 280k in medical school loans. My wife has 0 student loan. My parents agreed to pay off my loans so I can save on paying interest. My wife knew about these loans prior to marriage and understood I would need to pay my parents back. My wife now does not think it’s fair she came with no student loans. I make around 6x more than my wife bc of my education. My wife thinks her parents are being punished for having paid off all her education (college and masters). My wife also points out her parents helped substantially in raising our two kids for the last 5 years (cooking, cleaning, taking the babies at night, live in babysitting, etc) while we work. I owe my parents 280k. Wife wants us to pay her parents 280k as well. Edit: Wife’s parents paid around 200k of her education which we are not expected to pay back. Wife’s parents are well off financially and do not need money. Wife parents love their daughter and wanted to help with the kids for free. But we paid them 1000 a month. Edit 2: In laws do not need or want the money for her education. This is only my wife wanting fairness partially attributed by cultural differences in which parents are expected to pay for all upbringing of children including higher education. I however grew up in the States and do not have the expectation that my parents owe me this. Edit 3: In laws spend the 1000 we pay them to buy groceries for us and to buy things for the kids. If we proceed with paying wife’s parents for student loans, I am certain they won’t spend a dime of it. They will likely leave it for our kids or eventually for us. Her culture expects us to take care of her parents when they get older, living with us, and supported financially. I plan on doing the same for my parents. Upvote 1.2K Downvote 290 comments Share
我也看了Reddit的贴,楼主老公一开始没说楼主爸妈付钱和带娃的事情所以大家都支持老公。后来很多人支持楼主老婆,因为老公确实双标,一方面享受中国culture的免费childcare,一方面要按照美国标准还父母钱,而且还打算按照中国标准照顾他父母晚年。外国友人很多表示理解楼主 I don’t think you (the two of you) will be paying her patents 200k bc admit it, you don’t have it. And I don’t think it’s much a “cultural difference” issue bc let’s just rephrase: husband and wife got married. Wife’s parents provided years of free childcare and even money to the couple when husband was not that rich — we don’t know whether wife scaled back or chose not to advance her career bc of kids. Husband now needs to repay 280k to his parents. Nothing wrong. But Husband is financially capable of paying back bc Husband has not been not paying for nanny, cleaning, housekeeping, and a cook while enjoying free service for years. How is it not taking advantage of the kind and generous in laws? This is not American culture. If I were you, I would set aside funds (much more than 1000 a month) in an account as gratitude for her parents. They may not take it eventually and may well leave it to grandchildren. But this is important to remind both of you not to cue “culture” as an excuse to take parents for granted.
我同意你的解决方案,只想问一下楼主,孩子花很多钱是说孩子上学很贵吗?这样为啥岳父母还要收保姆费?还是你们算是给他们养老的零花钱
你爹妈也给你出了28万美元的医学院学费了?如果没出,你还在这儿叭叭叭叭的,又不是狗叫,闭嘴吧
那楼主老公28万只是医学院的钱,那本科的也还给公婆?
那以后结婚先算个账,把本科学费都还了?
楼主结婚的时候不知道老公有学贷吗?当时为啥不说不公平不坚决不嫁?
还要公平的话俩人赚一样的钱,干同样的家务,带同样时间的娃,楼主愿意吗?
我家是老公医生,特别忙,没兄弟姐妹,但再忙他妈要看病看牙全是他请假照顾的。当然我也会帮忙比如带老人拍片复查等等不太重要的appointments。算下来基本一人请一半假期来照顾老人吧。我带他妈看病完全是心疼我老公,也有心疼钱的份上,因为他请假的opportunity cost比我高得多。老公是非常忙,但再忙他也会请假照顾他妈。我也不会大包大揽去帮忙,要不然我也会怨,他少挣钱就少挣钱呗。
结婚就是两个公司合并。难道只合并收益,不合并债务? 尤其收益是债务导致的。
她父母做了屁的贡献,无非为她的无能买了单。她要是也有愿意为她付医学院学费的爹妈,也有本事读个MD,她小家可以找保姆伺候,所以她父母只是为她的无能买了单而已
给我父母1000块钱因为平时我妈总去买菜什么的。也总是买东西海运过来给孩子。疫情时间孩子去不了幼儿园,在家带两个很辛苦。我父母也不是看着这点钱给我们带孩子的,他们里外里掏的比这个多多了。
那你家几十万收入还不够花,需要你自己父母贴钱,钱都花哪里了?
你也去挣你老公的hourly pay,你家可以请人陪你婆婆看病,说来说去一家都是在为你这个废物买单,你抱怨个屁
mmmm……
别说得好听,一千美元都要拿的女方父母,就是很low
还是不明白,你家一年七十万收入,没什么负债,小孩不上学,还需要你父母贴钱,纯好奇这钱都咋花掉的?
那你应该尽快自立起来不要用他们的钱。不得不说公婆催你们还钱确实是有先见之明。你这个性格态度被你父母惯坏了
她家这个是楼主要叽歪,我认识的几十万马公加学艺术的老婆,老婆父母全款500万房子,人家过得很好,老婆就享受生活,不工作也比较少做家务,从来不说要让男方父母也出500万,男方父母改变life style 多奉献啥的。因为人家知道自己命好,父母给房子,老公赚钱,不要求男方父母也对自己奉献出力给钱。
你读那么多书,才挣你老公的N分之一,就是你父母投资你这个废物很失败,你怨你公婆,这也太不公平了
这个不是楼主,你不要乱骂
你也太气愤了,不用这样吧
花了这么多钱赚的才是老公的五六分之一。然后结婚生娃了还在啃老,你也好意思?
房贷,daycare,因为之前想着照顾两边父母,他们又对首付有贡献,就买了大房子,给他们留了他们自己的屋子。
所以说孩子不如我留钱做什么,给这么多还是不满足。
一年7万,你老公学费28万,你读了master2年14万,你老公挣得你5、6倍的钱,你爸妈投资在你身上比较失败
这事很简单啊,公婆的还了,你爸妈的也还了啊(也别算带娃的了,就算首付那种大额的)你爸妈的到时候都是你的(不是你老公的)。有啥说不出口的。 要是你abc老公不肯还你父母的,那就恶心了。你公婆不咋帮你忙你就不用管他们呀,你老公爱帮他们养老就养老被,反正还完学贷后再出的钱 你老公给1块,你也给你父母一块啊。为啥他赚的多你赚的少就不能这么要求呢…婚后财产啊,共有的。当然你abc老公要是想离婚你也要有离婚的底气哈…不然就只能忍了(忍也可以先把你爸妈的钱还了)
你们自己买房子,给“他们”留屋子是指你父母还是公婆?
婆婆给儿子还贷款,不是赠与形式。那你老公要还他们钱很合理啊? 这个你父母什么关系?!?!?!
至于是不是需要再多孝敬你父母? 这件事情需要你们自己分开讨论。
你要先搞清楚, 第一件事情,你老公是有法律义务,借钱就是要还的。
而孝敬是没有法律义务的,所以这两件事情根本不能混在一起讨论啊。
本质就是不同的。
至于其他借的钱, 建议把所有属于借的钱列个单子,列好债主名字,并达成每个债主的钱什么时候需要还清,然后就按这个单子每个月还。
下次记住家人也要明算账。否则就是各种家庭争端的导火线。
父母公婆,他们都有自己的屋子,独立的卫生间
我替Lz父母生气啦,生这么个废物,还这么不要脸
同感
你回错了吧,lol。不过话说回来不是请人就能解决问题的,比如我婆婆,老太太太难搞,只有她儿子才能搞得定她,我也只能带她跑跑腿这种事。她能让请人我最好了,付的工钱跟她儿子陪看病损失的钱可少太多了。
你是说房间?我还以为是你给他们各自买了sfh。这样的话哪怕你们在高房价地区,六七十万收入完全可以cover你们的支出吧,怎么还会需要你父母补贴你们
媳妇没义务侍候婆婆,又不是她生的,自愿,那是另外一回事儿
是不要脸。还借款她还觉得吃亏了,非要从老公口袋里再扒拉出去,揣她口袋里才算是她的。
一股子农村凤凰女的馊味。当医生的怎么找这么一个废材。
同意。男人遇上不要脸的一家也挺可怕的 结婚对男女都是再投胎吧?
你没感觉错,你确实就是在剥削你父母,好在你父母体力财力都有,愿意让你啃
是啊,这贪得无厌的东西从来不觉得老公的不算真是自己的,非要揣自己口袋才是自己的。 这种祸害养在身边,她老公真是个智障找这么一个定时炸弹
婚姻能成就一个男人,也能毁掉一个男人。人的思维品性是改变不了,这逼能正正有词要她老公也出28万给她爹妈就知道她品性是坏透了,这不是骂能骂转性的。
这男的以后会很可怜,这女的对钱财特贪特短视,老公的钱不是她的揣她口袋才是她的,男的在这逼眼里真是一根阴毛都不如。
就是城乡结合部家庭出来的凤凰女,对钱看得极重,还变着法从自己老公口袋里往外扒拉
三岁定八十,绝对不会再要脸的。也许长得漂亮?要是还长很丑,这男人也是脑子进水了
你这么自私的女人有老公简直是奇迹
赚了那么多利息了,借钱不还本,还来贴大字报,不够牛?你是同路人? 借人钱的,果然都是大爷
在美国出生or在美国长大的,不要找成年后才来美国的中国配偶,不然就糟糕了。
我同意你说的,一定要门当户对,价值观相同。 本来打算给儿子付医学院的学费,现在我要考虑一下了。如果付了学费,遗产份额肯定是要减少的。 家里孩子多,必须要公平。
偷偷干啥都行,只要警局不抓。上网来找支持,本来就是白痴,讨骂的,华人上很多无聊的人,正好有点儿事儿干
Sp 500的确是非常好的投资。孩子还是要生的,放养就好了,自己也有开心好玩的时候
同感。我娃也想念医学院,还是让他去贷款吧。以后要是找个懂道理的媳妇,就替他付清贷款,到时候还能念我个好。要是找个贪得无厌的媳妇,只能相敬如宾了
给一个孩子付医学院学费,那必须把同样的钱拿出来给另一个孩子,随便他买房还是读书。反正要做到公平家里才父慈子孝。
这种女的用过了就可以了,结婚的不要
国内现在的风气很不好,男的出轨嫖娼很平常,女的只向钱看,吃相难看的也很多。还有小家和原生家庭的界限感也很模糊,一不小心嫁娶的不是一个人,是对方的一大家子。
ABC孩子应该尽量避免和国内长大的孩子婚嫁。
楼主脾气不错, 家庭和睦最好, 有些人说话够难听.
说的可太对了。
是,家里有男娃的家都得好好想想,除非是家里有金矿的,一般工薪中产家省吃俭用的付大学,医学院的学费到底值不值得。
自己做媳妇的时候骂婆婆,自己要当婆婆或丈母娘的时候骂媳妇,同一批
真假,链接来一个?
教育好娃就是了,不要找楼主这样的小市民家庭出身的。
不出所料 美国人大多挺她老公 https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/s/Mss8TMAeJT
笑死啦,这届婆婆丈母娘不好斗,还是找门当户对的吧,免去了很多麻烦
我也同意不需要还。
另外,楼主读书也花了她父母的钱。其实某种意义上也叫借。不过她老公是借学贷,而楼主是借父母。 都需要还。
但是呢,家里很难讲完全公平,比如老公挣钱多,楼主估计做家务多,楼主父母帮忙家务多。不好算。
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所以算不清楚呀。 楼主父母来帮忙照顾孩子,一个月外面请住家保姆得多少钱钱?
最简单的算法就是,婚后的钱是公共的财富。 她老公用婚后的钱去还婚前的贷款,法律上是怎么裁断的?
楼主自己也拎不清,言不顺,理不正。
父母有没有给你付在美国读书的费用? 父母来带孩子,每个月给了市场价没有? 如果没有,可以先打借条。 这样就是楼主欠她父母的债了。
另外,婚后共同财产,怎么偿还一方婚前的贷款? 但是呢,还是说回来,结婚了,不能分的太清楚。 错就错在一开始楼主父母没让楼主打欠条。
就是楼主傻,还被这里的华人婆婆喷的够呛 :D
真的啊,夫妻同时在中英文网站发帖。
谁说亚裔男在婚恋市场上不吃香的?关键是看你有没有魅力。说实话,看到一些亚裔女那个平板身材,再考虑到一些亚裔女的低教养,就是脱光了放在我面前我也没有性趣。
赶紧哄哄老公吧。看下面这些留言,你老公恐怕要动别心了。
AITA for telling my wife she is crazy for wanting to pay her parents the same amount of money I owe my parents in student loans. I have 280k in medical school loans. My wife has 0 student loan. My parents agreed to pay off my loans so I can save on paying interest. My wife knew about these loans prior to marriage and understood I would need to pay my parents back. My wife now does not think it’s fair she came with no student loans. I make around 6x more than my wife bc of my education. My wife thinks her parents are being punished for having paid off all her education (college and masters). My wife also points out her parents helped substantially in raising our two kids for the last 5 years (cooking, cleaning, taking the babies at night, live in babysitting, etc) while we work. I owe my parents 280k. Wife wants us to pay her parents 280k as well. Edit: Wife’s parents paid around 200k of her education which we are not expected to pay back. Wife’s parents are well off financially and do not need money. Wife parents love their daughter and wanted to help with the kids for free. But we paid them 1000 a month. Edit 2: In laws do not need or want the money for her education. This is only my wife wanting fairness partially attributed by cultural differences in which parents are expected to pay for all upbringing of children including higher education. I however grew up in the States and do not have the expectation that my parents owe me this. Edit 3: In laws spend the 1000 we pay them to buy groceries for us and to buy things for the kids. If we proceed with paying wife’s parents for student loans, I am certain they won’t spend a dime of it. They will likely leave it for our kids or eventually for us. Her culture expects us to take care of her parents when they get older, living with us, and supported financially. I plan on doing the same for my parents.
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看来他们夫妻还真的挺般配的
楼主说她老公看了所有comment并表示同情她被拍 4岁来美国能看懂这个楼里的comment而且作为一个专科医生有时间看懂这个楼,比看了贴就站在楼主这一边还神奇
她逗逼一个,她老公在reddit发帖说她是疯婆子要自己掏28万孝敬她爹妈
哎呀她们说的是不能找条件一般的女留学生好吧。不然除了出绿卡,还得学国内的男方出房子出家用,然后女方又不按本地规矩出婚礼还公婆借款,加上能力一般英语也不是母语,本地ABC娶普信女是真的吃亏!
智商不行就老老实实做人。傻人也有傻福气的。就怕楼主这种明明智商人品都不行的,越努力只能离幸福越远。
那根本不一样,带娃是父母打赏,子女要感恩戴德。 收5000一个月那是正经保姆价格了,做得不如市面保姆雇主要给脸子的。
这都能发现啊 太厉害了
拉倒吧你,你家老公四岁过来能咣咣咣看完这么多中文论坛长篇大论?!完全没可能。你在俩论坛砖头收的可以另外搭个房子了
哈哈,条件好,你爹妈还惦记你老公的钱,你可真有意思
有一点很对,你觉得父母给你支付学费,你要报答她。那是你的事情啊。钱为什么要让老公承担呢?
这个逻辑点在哪里呢?
如果你说给钱是因为你父母付出很大,但问题这个娃也是你的孩子呀,这个家你也是一份子啊。 而且付出前,你父母都说了不要给钱的,那如果你过意不去,那还是应该你自己拿自己工资来孝敬你父母呀,怎么突然就老公也需要为你的愧疚买单了?特别是接受服务钱和服务后的代价不同的情况下? 如果要按市场价支付父母,你老公还会要你父母帮忙吗? 所以不能强行服务吧?!
好奇怪的逻辑。真是看不懂。 话说,医生这些逻辑也没有吗? 反正处处都感到古怪~~~
教育投资再多,也是白扔了,LZ挣不到钱去报答父母,怎么办? 教育投资也有成功和失败之分的。Lz就是这一点拎不清,或者故意装傻
网友太牛了!
I don’t think you (the two of you) will be paying her patents 200k bc admit it, you don’t have it. And I don’t think it’s much a “cultural difference” issue bc let’s just rephrase: husband and wife got married. Wife’s parents provided years of free childcare and even money to the couple when husband was not that rich — we don’t know whether wife scaled back or chose not to advance her career bc of kids. Husband now needs to repay 280k to his parents. Nothing wrong. But Husband is financially capable of paying back bc Husband has not been not paying for nanny, cleaning, housekeeping, and a cook while enjoying free service for years. How is it not taking advantage of the kind and generous in laws? This is not American culture. If I were you, I would set aside funds (much more than 1000 a month) in an account as gratitude for her parents. They may not take it eventually and may well leave it to grandchildren. But this is important to remind both of you not to cue “culture” as an excuse to take parents for granted.
她就是国内男女婚姻里金钱那套。活的特他妈的累,跟这种女人活得也特妈的累