I would say, renting is much better than owning one. plus, the models currently in US market can't be compared to the ones in European market. maybe down the road, there will be much better choices. just compare any popular small RVhere, like EKKO to OASI 540, totally not on the same level.
好处: 可以在景区过夜,小孩玩的开心 坏处: 花费不比租车+住旅馆少 如果你的RV是大车,那还要带辆车,或当地租车。否则哪都去不了。只能在RV park 呆着。 如果远距离旅游,长时间开车,而且提心吊胆 休息不好,吃不好 狭窄,每次pack,unpack非常麻烦 不去RVpark,在外面坚持不了两天就没电没水了 RV park 形形色色的人,不一定安全。 绝大部分车里都带枪。感觉RVpark出事几率很大。 玩了一次就再也不想玩了。 决定, 飞机到目的地,租车+旅馆
Houston RV park shooting: 1 dead after allegedly trying to enter woman''''''''s trailer By FOX 26 Digital Published July 28, 2023 Crime and Public Safety FOX 26 Houston
We rented RV for two weeks in Alaska, very nice experience. Newer RVs are all boasting 4-season and off-grid capabilities. But, there are a lot of potential challenges:1) storing: rodents are so hard to avoid. 2) tires: if RV sits still for very long, the tires will go bad quickly.
that's trailer park? no? I thought the point of RV is to get closer to the scenary places. and if not off grid, those RV park generally charge by day and are not for those who look for affordable, long-term spots. Western coast has way more BLM managed lands, where you can go. Eastern coast doesn't have much land under BLM. but walmart, costco crack&barrel parking lots are good and safe options.
that's trailer park? no? I thought the point of RV is to get closer to the scenary places. and if not off grid, those RV park generally charge by day and are not for those who look for affordable, long-term spots. Western coast has way more BLM managed lands, where you can go. Eastern coast doesn't have much land under BLM. but walmart, costco crack&barrel parking lots are good and safe options. wayne 发表于 2023-09-12 15:14
I studied a lot about RV focus on class B. My conclusion is try not to buy but rent; If I do have the money, buy second-handed; If owning one, use it intensively for a few years and then sell it. I am in the FB Ekko group. some owners' experience with a brand-new rv are very disappointing. So get an well tested-out second hand can save a lot of money and hassle.
We rented RV for two weeks in Alaska, very nice experience. Newer RVs are all boasting 4-season and off-grid capabilities. But, there are a lot of potential challenges:1) storing: rodents are so hard to avoid. 2) tires: if RV sits still for very long, the tires will go bad quickly.
回复 32楼果酱罐子的帖子 a lot of house garage doesn't have enough height clearance for RV. For northeast people, need to find a storage place, ideally enclosed and climate controlled. But still, i saw posts that some mice got in and droppings everywhere in the RV when they pick it up in spring. a lot of work involved when owning a RV.
We rented RV for two weeks in Alaska, very nice experience. Newer RVs are all boasting 4-season and off-grid capabilities. But, there are a lot of potential challenges:1) storing: rodents are so hard to avoid. 2) tires: if RV sits still for very long, the tires will go bad quickly.
I studied a lot about RV focus on class B. My conclusion is try not to buy but rent; If I do have the money, buy second-handed; If owning one, use it intensively for a few years and then sell it. I am in the FB Ekko group. some owners' experience with a brand-new rv are very disappointing. So get an well tested-out second hand can save a lot of money and hassle. wayne 发表于 2023-09-12 15:29
两个人出去玩的话,买哪种二手class B 比较好? 车龄,里程数,make/model? 飞翔在蓝天 发表于 2023-09-12 20:02
too many to list. based on my research, you first focus on chassis and engine. generally, people recommend against Mercedez' b/c too expensive to maintain. Ekko from winnebago is really popular now. It's on Ford Transit chassis. Other than that, coachhouse features one piece fiberglass top, which is the best option for waterproof purpose. There are a lot of private mod company, which will modify and custom make based on different chassis, such as ram pro master chassis. I would recommend to join a few classB for sale/ owner facebook group and read some of the owners' experiences and then decide what best fits your needs.
too many to list. based on my research, you first focus on chassis and engine. generally, people recommend against Mercedez' b/c too expensive to maintain. Ekko from winnebago is really popular now. It's on Ford Transit chassis. Other than that, coachhouse features one piece fiberglass top, which is the best option for waterproof purpose. There are a lot of private mod company, which will modify and custom make based on different chassis, such as ram pro master chassis. I would recommend to join a few classB for sale/ owner facebook group and read some of the owners' experiences and then decide what best fits your needs. wayne 发表于 2023-09-12 20:46
We rented RV for two weeks in Alaska, very nice experience. Newer RVs are all boasting 4-season and off-grid capabilities. But, there are a lot of potential challenges:1) storing: rodents are so hard to avoid. 2) tires: if RV sits still for very long, the tires will go bad quickly.
too many to list. based on my research, you first focus on chassis and engine. generally, people recommend against Mercedez' b/c too expensive to maintain. Ekko from winnebago is really popular now. It's on Ford Transit chassis. Other than that, coachhouse features one piece fiberglass top, which is the best option for waterproof purpose. There are a lot of private mod company, which will modify and custom make based on different chassis, such as ram pro master chassis. I would recommend to join a few classB for sale/ owner facebook group and read some of the owners' experiences and then decide what best fits your needs. wayne 发表于 2023-09-12 20:46
好处: 可以在景区过夜,小孩玩的开心 坏处: 花费不比租车+住旅馆少 如果你的RV是大车,那还要带辆车,或当地租车。否则哪都去不了。只能在RV park 呆着。 如果远距离旅游,长时间开车,而且提心吊胆 休息不好,吃不好 狭窄,每次pack,unpack非常麻烦 不去RVpark,在外面坚持不了两天就没电没水了 RV park 形形色色的人,不一定安全。 绝大部分车里都带枪。感觉RVpark出事几率很大。 玩了一次就再也不想玩了。 决定, 飞机到目的地,租车+旅馆
Houston RV park shooting: 1 dead after allegedly trying to enter woman''''''''s trailer By FOX 26 Digital Published July 28, 2023 Crime and Public Safety FOX 26 Houston
laohua001 发表于 2023-09-12 14:36
只能说 个人风格吧 但RV or trailer 绝对不是省钱和省事搞的 喜欢的自然喜欢 不喜欢的可以找一万个理由不喜欢 我试过RV C 试过 trailer . 现在刚定了皮卡 决定trailer 方式继续玩下去。 美加太多美的地方了,山水边一停. 风景就在开窗之外,静下心来而不是景点打卡,这种感觉不是酒店和airbnb 能替代的
Yes! I strongly recommend. a lot of the hotel rooms in alaska don't have two queen beds. Adding the hotels and car rental, the total cost is very close to RV rental cost. but you have the great flexibility to stop whereever you want for how long you want. Plus, a lot of gas station can dump and re-fill. it's really convenient.
要了命了,RV Camping 和 Trailer or mobile home Park 是两回事两回事,你出门住的RV park都是营地,一般都有RV停车扎营和普通TENT的,比如KOA,这和低收入的trailer house/community 完全两码事好吗? RV 营地一般都不能住超过30天的,一些老美喜欢开着车到一个地方住半年,有些camp是可以,但大多数都不是那种,而低收入住trailer house那种更不一样了,不了解请不要误导别人好不好
要了命了,RV Camping 和 Trailer or mobile home Park 是两回事两回事,你出门住的RV park都是营地,一般都有RV停车扎营和普通TENT的,比如KOA,这和低收入的trailer house/community 完全两码事好吗? RV 营地一般都不能住超过30天的,一些老美喜欢开着车到一个地方住半年,有些camp是可以,但大多数都不是那种,而低收入住trailer house那种更不一样了,不了解请不要误导别人好不好
that's trailer park? no? I thought the point of RV is to get closer to the scenary places. and if not off grid, those RV park generally charge by day and are not for those who look for affordable, long-term spots. Western coast has way more BLM managed lands, where you can go. Eastern coast doesn't have much land under BLM. but walmart, costco crack&barrel parking lots are good and safe options. wayne 发表于 2023-09-12 15:14
Shopping centre 的停车场 safe 不到哪里去。 你如果去 California 的几个大城市试试? 呵呵。worst case 就是几死几伤。 现在的美国,太疯狂了。
买之前先租几次看看喜不喜欢。然后算算用多少次才能把买车的钱赚回来。用的不频繁肯定租更好。不差钱就买
https://www.cruiseamerica.com/rv-rentals
买之前,必须先租几次。几次后,大部分人就不买了。
也要之前找好和订好营地吧?
我想着自己不用的时候租出去,不知道可行不可行。不知道有没有mm是过来人?不吝赐教啊
好处: 可以在景区过夜,小孩玩的开心
坏处: 花费不比租车+住旅馆少 如果你的RV是大车,那还要带辆车,或当地租车。否则哪都去不了。只能在RV park 呆着。 如果远距离旅游,长时间开车,而且提心吊胆 休息不好,吃不好 狭窄,每次pack,unpack非常麻烦 不去RVpark,在外面坚持不了两天就没电没水了 RV park 形形色色的人,不一定安全。 绝大部分车里都带枪。感觉RVpark出事几率很大。
玩了一次就再也不想玩了。 决定, 飞机到目的地,租车+旅馆
Houston RV park shooting: 1 dead after allegedly trying to enter woman''''''''s trailer By FOX 26 Digital Published July 28, 2023 Crime and Public Safety FOX 26 Houston
提供一个数据点,问过有房车的同事,他说持有成本不低,要保证每年开房车出去玩14-18天,才能打平。
alaska has very friendly policy on rv, basically you can boondock anywhere feasible.
没出租过,但全看你动手能力。rv和车不一样,是个移动房子,需要很多维护,供电,上下水,清理,维修内饰,冬天防冻… 要是能学动手能力强,肯定啥都没问题啊
rv park里面人杂这点真没想到 以为都是热爱自然的人
google RV park shooting,killing
太多了
我唯一一次租RV, 在RV park 看见有人在摆弄枪
rv容易出事故?想着是比较大的车会稳一些……
这个我也没想到。 以为给住帐篷的是同一拨人。 其实想一下也对, 很多极低收入的人都住在 RV park, 就是连房租都交不起那种, 电影里也有很多这样的都住在 RV park 里。 所以变得安全就成问题了。 反而一搬帐篷营地的才是真的一家大小出来亲近大自然的人。
那么好? 不知道还有哪个州是这样的。 就是不 RV 也弄个 RoofTop, 那随便往那个湖边,山顶一停就是了。
帐篷营地也不好说,我上次露营遇到一波老墨开party,放很loud的音乐,喝酒,抽烟,折腾到半夜两三点 公园的quiet time是11点
可以租出去 每次需要清洁打扫 需要挂网上 申请许可什么的 我觉得不少的工作量
that's trailer park? no? I thought the point of RV is to get closer to the scenary places. and if not off grid, those RV park generally charge by day and are not for those who look for affordable, long-term spots. Western coast has way more BLM managed lands, where you can go. Eastern coast doesn't have much land under BLM. but walmart, costco crack&barrel parking lots are good and safe options.
相对。。。好的。 单独例子肯定不少。
LZ can check outdoorsy so you have a general idea.
你说的对, 我搞混乱了 trailer park 跟 RV park。
当然不是 。大车难开,尤其公园里很多路不是平整的路,有山路 有陡坡 有拐弯和窄道。黄石公园那么容易的路, 能在路上翻车的就是房🚗,普通SUV都开得好好的。
challenge 1有点吓人啊
a lot of house garage doesn't have enough height clearance for RV. For northeast people, need to find a storage place, ideally enclosed and climate controlled. But still, i saw posts that some mice got in and droppings everywhere in the RV when they pick it up in spring. a lot of work involved when owning a RV.
#2 其实很好解决了。 停的时间长, 用千斤顶顶起来, 然后4面垫石头就可以把轮胎压力去掉。
租过一次Cruise America, 1) 得开个小车, 否则开着RV到处逛景点, 趴车是个大问题,也很容易刮蹭到 2) 油耗特别大, 10MPH? 3)开着车的时候, 锅碗瓢盆得放好了, 就算放好了, 车内的噪音很大
总的来说,体验感一般, 近处周末一小时车程开到full hookup的营地停好车不动也许还可以,较远的路程就不推荐了
RV和旅馆相比,当然不可能那么方便舒服,但要是去公园野外看夜里的星星清晨的朝阳,RV比帐篷又要舒服,安全一些。旅游好几天的话,有个RV的冰箱能存点吃的,烧烤啊西瓜啊什么的也都顺手。如果营地有水有电,也不一定在RV里面洗澡上厕所。
如果自己买RV,出租给别人,我想最重要的是要住在一个旅游胜地,这样才有客源吧。然后就是要比较handy,小修小补的自己能干了。
两个人出去玩的话,买哪种二手class B 比较好? 车龄,里程数,make/model?
特别容易弄脏弄乱。明明用得很小心,还是会很脏。但是打扫也很容易。
too many to list. based on my research, you first focus on chassis and engine. generally, people recommend against Mercedez' b/c too expensive to maintain. Ekko from winnebago is really popular now. It's on Ford Transit chassis. Other than that, coachhouse features one piece fiberglass top, which is the best option for waterproof purpose. There are a lot of private mod company, which will modify and custom make based on different chassis, such as ram pro master chassis. I would recommend to join a few classB for sale/ owner facebook group and read some of the owners' experiences and then decide what best fits your needs.
freedom elite 24fe 怎么样?
层主,像我家这种rv小白带一家老小去阿拉斯加玩你建议租rv吗?我考虑是不是先租个在local找地方玩一圈看看合不合适。。
谢谢宝贵经验!
那些大的RV或者trailer对新手太不友好了,在窄路上也有点不安全
如果要自己买的话,我也推荐class b带升高顶仓的,一家四口足够睡
rv对比的是汽车旅馆。跟motel比起来 rv又干净又方便。景色也强得多。
只能说 个人风格吧 但RV or trailer 绝对不是省钱和省事搞的 喜欢的自然喜欢 不喜欢的可以找一万个理由不喜欢
我试过RV C 试过 trailer . 现在刚定了皮卡 决定trailer 方式继续玩下去。 美加太多美的地方了,山水边一停. 风景就在开窗之外,静下心来而不是景点打卡,这种感觉不是酒店和airbnb 能替代的
阿拉斯加强烈推荐租RV
属实
而且RV是一种家人exclusive的出行方式。整个全程下来,不用拖行李上下楼,不用跟餐馆服务生假客套,不用排队等厕所。
可以看作没有轨道的卧铺火车 + 穷人版私人飞机。
你这个能睡四个人的是什么型号?需要升顶吗?
Storyteller Overland. 不升顶。它家也有奔驰sprinter版本。做工比Winnebago好些。
我感觉我最不喜欢RV的地方就是黑水箱
不要通过Outdoorsy 租。
我上次出行前专门买了outdoorsy自己网站提供的保险。后来有个擦挂事故,结果最后用的是自己保险,因为他们的保险是secondory 的。请问有哪家secondary保险7天要价$700,但啥也不管?客服烂到泥地里去了。建议楼主也查查英文网站的review
坏处是多出的花费: 保险,存车费,很多知识要学(如何维护和使用)我买的class B,在营地连水连电很方便,如果是trailer的话就麻烦。
总而言之我觉得好,但缺点也的确不少,看你如何权衡
这个RV PARK和低收入住的TRAILER PARK是两码事好吗?根本不是一回事别误导
以前我也是这么打算的,一旦拥有了就舍不得给别人造了,那是自己得另一个家,我可舍不得租给不认识的人霍祸 不过老美出租的很多,新的更抢手也很贵,你舍得那肯定划算就是
没错,我去年刚买时也闹过不少乌龙,但好在肯学跟维护房子一样上手就好了,今年玩起来就没压力了
Yes! I strongly recommend. a lot of the hotel rooms in alaska don't have two queen beds. Adding the hotels and car rental, the total cost is very close to RV rental cost. but you have the great flexibility to stop whereever you want for how long you want. Plus, a lot of gas station can dump and re-fill. it's really convenient.
Zan! could you share more? which model? can two bigs kids + 2 adults fit? Thanks in advance!
RV和船一样,最开心的两天分别是买的那天和卖的那天。
等你买了就舍不得出租了,那是你的度假屋(活动的),是第二个家。而且美国房车装修的质量都不怎么样,外人根本不会爱惜,你就光修理吧。
这些人不用工作的吗?是不是国家公园附近的rv park会好一些,都是去旅游的
要了命了,RV Camping 和 Trailer or mobile home Park 是两回事两回事,你出门住的RV park都是营地,一般都有RV停车扎营和普通TENT的,比如KOA,这和低收入的trailer house/community 完全两码事好吗? RV 营地一般都不能住超过30天的,一些老美喜欢开着车到一个地方住半年,有些camp是可以,但大多数都不是那种,而低收入住trailer house那种更不一样了,不了解请不要误导别人好不好
我们去阿拉斯加的好几个RV PARK都是有很多常驻的人。 RV完全不能开的那种,车旁边还有花花草草,瓶瓶罐罐。一看就是长期住的。
我家有个RV,空调倒是不吵,如果用发电机的话那个发电机是真的很吵
你定RV park要看review呀,我没去过阿拉斯加,但在其它很多州都RV CAMPING过,一般营地都不会允许常住的,也没有这些乱像,都很peaceful。
有些营地可以常驻,有些老年美国人就卖了房子住RV, 以前我们在campsite和一些老年人聊天得知的,有些一住几年,有些夏天冬天去不同的州,挺向往的。常驻的价格比较便宜。
是有这样的,但大多·数·还·是不让常驻,我住过几次这种有常住section的。她们要和营地签合约的,有些营地专门划一小片给这些老人,这些和前面层主们说的trailer house那种不安全的低收入聚居的Mobile park是不一样的。一般这种都是老头老太太,人家都打理的可好了,放个门牌还种花花草草,晚上还聚一起唱歌聊天BBQ啥的,跟打理个家一样
不去营地你不担心安全问题么?
Shopping centre 的停车场 safe 不到哪里去。
你如果去 California 的几个大城市试试? 呵呵。worst case 就是几死几伤。
现在的美国,太疯狂了。
我们去Alaska 也是租的rv 2个礼拜。体验跟你完全不同。非常好。没见到常住的。或者我没注意。大部分营地都有限制的最多俩礼拜。rv好处是可以在风景优美的地方随时吃饭扎营。小孩外面活动空间多,很休闲。
我们不去的是RV park,但是普通帐篷营地是常去的,因为我们的camper van很小。有大电池不需要接电;同时没有黑水箱也不需要排污。
其实National Forest里面免费的boondocking我们也常干,安全性上没有那么吓人。
mm,有问题请教啊,麻烦你看一下私信?