好奇stock 发 dividen 的时候是会同时卖出一些股嘛?

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mojolady
楼主 (北美华人网)
如题。。。否则,这个zero-sum market是咋回事?求各位大神解惑。。。
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ZSLKS
每次ex-dividend那天,调低相应红利的股价,看上去是股价上亏了。
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mojolady
每次ex-dividend那天,调低相应红利的股价,看上去是股价上亏了。
ZSLKS 发表于 2023-08-04 16:01

这个意思是:自己给自己发钱?dividen就是从自己的put进去的钱里拿出来的?
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ZSLKS
这个意思是:自己给自己发钱?dividen就是从自己的put进去的钱里拿出来的?
mojolady 发表于 2023-08-04 16:05

几乎是这样,好像你自己亏了一部分股票给自己反红利。好在股数没有变,如果你拿红利购买更多的股票,不断增加股数,如果股价未来不变或者增长,才有复利效应。
金银岛
这个意思是:自己给自己发钱?dividen就是从自己的put进去的钱里拿出来的?
mojolady 发表于 2023-08-04 16:05

对,拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些。
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mojolady
几乎是这样,好像你自己亏了一部分股票给自己反红利。好在股数没有变,如果你拿红利购买更多的股票,不断增加股数,如果股价未来不变或者增长,才有复利效应。
ZSLKS 发表于 2023-08-04 16:11

明白了,所以股市还是zero-sum。
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vsfan
对,拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些。
金银岛 发表于 2023-08-04 16:14

Not really, just regular income tax rate
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mojolady
对,拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些。
金银岛 发表于 2023-08-04 16:14

了解了
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alanbeil
对,拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些。
金银岛 发表于 2023-08-04 16:14

The dividend is always same as interest income, they are under same category in tax form. Please don't mislead people
金银岛
Not really, just regular income tax rate
vsfan 发表于 2023-08-04 16:17

建议阅读 https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/qualifieddividend.asp
Dividends are separated into two classes by the IRS, ordinary and qualified. A dividend is considered to be qualified if you have held a stock for more than 60 days in the 121-day period that began 60 days before the ex-dividend date.
The maximum tax rate for qualified dividends is 20%, with a few exceptions for real estate, art, or small business stock. Ordinary dividends are taxed at income tax rates, which as of the 2023 tax year, maxes out at 37%.


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vsfan
建议阅读 https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/qualifieddividend.asp
Dividends are separated into two classes by the IRS, ordinary and qualified. A dividend is considered to be qualified if you have held a stock for more than 60 days in the 121-day period that began 60 days before the ex-dividend date.
The maximum tax rate for qualified dividends is 20%, with a few exceptions for real estate, art, or small business stock. Ordinary dividends are taxed at income tax rates, which as of the 2023 tax year, maxes out at 37%.



金银岛 发表于 2023-08-04 16:24

And you forgot to mention long term gain is 20% for most people too.
金银岛
And you forgot to mention long term gain is 20% for most people too.
vsfan 发表于 2023-08-04 16:43

我引的两段只是用来说明你前面的话是错误的。既然你提到long term gain,提醒一句这个long term比121天要长得多。
我说:拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些 你说:Not really, just regular income tax rate

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ZSLKS
红利股放IRA Roth
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vsfan
我引的两段只是用来说明你前面的话是错误的。既然你提到long term gain,提醒一句这个long term比121天要长得多。
我说:拿dividend交的税可能比卖股票盈利交的税少一些 你说:Not really, just regular income tax rate


金银岛 发表于 2023-08-04 16:52

我们不要用谣言去打击谣言 用错误去回馈错误
I don’t have to be right, but I like listing facts.
金银岛
我们不要用谣言去打击谣言 用错误去回馈错误
I don’t have to be right, but I like listing facts.
vsfan 发表于 2023-08-04 17:29

所以你承认你前面的话是错误的,同时又想说我的话也是错的?
那你一定是不明白‘可能’两字的意思。

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