layoff后面试被问why you are looking for a new job - 急问

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ChairmanXi
楼主 (北美华人网)
layoff 后面试的时候被问为什么会找工作如何回答?需要如实说被Layoff了吗?这样说了会拿到next step 的面试吗?
如果我是招聘的人,如果有两个差不多的candidate,一个被Layoff,一个是现在还有工作,我会选那个有工作的,而且如果layoff之后的gap太长(比如3个月以上),我就很不太会考虑。大家说这种想法有道理吗?

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Feifei6789
你想多了吧,就算面试时候不说,背景调查一查就出来了
健康平安
老实说就可以了,layoff 有各种原因的,大家都理解。
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niuniudabao
就说是被layoff啊 又不是因为个人performance原因被fire掉的。现在这个market大家都会理解的
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westlake
Layoff不会是不选你的理由,但是是可能Low Ball你的理由
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bran
就说layoff啊,公司很喜欢招layoff的人
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faydevil
lay off很正常,实话说就好了。而且公司知道你可以尽快入职
健康平安
Layoff不会是不选你的理由,但是是可能Low Ball你的理由
westlake 发表于 2023-07-31 13:46

这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
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niuniudabao
这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:52

Isn’t that an insult? 可以投诉的么..
健康平安
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
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Mia8
你如果还没正式离开可以不说,已经离开了就实话实说吧。
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wellerism
Isn’t that an insult? 可以投诉的么..
niuniudabao 发表于 2023-07-31 13:54

没啥好投诉的,拿competing offer 打它脸就行了
孔雀翎
回复 1楼ChairmanXi的帖子
也并不是,除非两人水平相差太大。有工作的人往往都是骑驴找马,更难谈一点。 另外,有工作也分自己找工作还是猎头撬人,自己找那肯定是对原工作不满,人事,待遇,工作能力,家庭原因等等。其实跟layoff没差什么。猎头寻人,人家本来也没对工作不满,想拉人就要offer更好的待遇。
常然
layoff 后面试的时候被问为什么会找工作如何回答?需要如实说被Layoff了吗?这样说了会拿到next step 的面试吗?
如果我是招聘的人,如果有两个差不多的candidate,一个被Layoff,一个是现在还有工作,我会选那个有工作的,而且如果layoff之后的gap太长(比如3个月以上),我就很不太会考虑。大家说这种想法有道理吗?


ChairmanXi 发表于 2023-07-31 13:39

I am actively seeking new opportunities as I believe it's the right time for me to take the next step in my career. I have had some valuable experiences in my previous role, and now I'm eager to leverage my skills and expertise to contribute to a dynamic and innovative team like yours.
I have been very proactive in continuously learning and developing professionally, and I'm excited to apply my knowledge in a new setting where I can make a significant impact. Your company's reputation for fostering a positive and collaborative work environment aligns perfectly with what I'm looking for in my next position.
I believe my unique skill set and dedication to personal growth will enable me to excel in this role and add value to the team. I'm genuinely enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your organization and contributing to its continued success.
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qqqrrrnnn
这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:52

新公司的HR 可以看到你目前的所在公司给了你多少薪水?
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Ruth
实话实说,同行你不说人家也知道你们公司裁员了,也会猜。再说背景调查能查你离职时间,也能问是你辞职还是公司辞退你。藏着掖着不说,让人家猜你个人performance 之类原因,不是更糟。
健康平安
Isn’t that an insult? 可以投诉的么..
niuniudabao 发表于 2023-07-31 13:54

那时是Tech Downturn,不敢Sue不敢表示不满,有个工作已经很高兴了。
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Ruth
新公司的HR 可以看到你目前的所在公司给了你多少薪水?
qqqrrrnnn 发表于 2023-07-31 13:58

不能,你如果自己提供,他们可以去核实你说的这个数字真实与否。现在应该很多州不让问。 那位层主是被人欺负说她现在没工作0收入。
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Purple_car
回复 1楼ChairmanXi的帖子
看你第二段,为啥更prefer没被lay off的?
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qqqrrrnnn
不能,你如果自己提供,他们可以去核实你说的这个数字真实与否。现在应该很多州不让问。 那位层主是被人欺负说她现在没工作0收入。
Ruth 发表于 2023-07-31 14:01

哦, 懂了!
吃鸡蛋
这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:52

居然有这种HR?
吃鸡蛋
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:55

点赞chatgpt
这种BS,AI最在行
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qingq
3个月以上就太长?
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Cat_2017
budget cuts, reorganization
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linlingyu
Lay off又不是fire, 有啥不能说的呢。无论真实离职原因是什么都不一定成为不要你的理由,但是撒谎被发现大概率会直接锯掉。
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Krystal2015
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:55

ChatGPT 回答得真不错!👍
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NSGA
Layoff不会是不选你的理由,但是是可能Low Ball你的理由
westlake 发表于 2023-07-31 13:46

通常是没有其他offer才会被low ball,即使你在职。 如果被laid了但是手握几个offer,应该是一样的bargain power
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sssunnysun
layoff 后面试的时候被问为什么会找工作如何回答?需要如实说被Layoff了吗?这样说了会拿到next step 的面试吗?
如果我是招聘的人,如果有两个差不多的candidate,一个被Layoff,一个是现在还有工作,我会选那个有工作的,而且如果layoff之后的gap太长(比如3个月以上),我就很不太会考虑。大家说这种想法有道理吗?


ChairmanXi 发表于 2023-07-31 13:39

面试官不太地道的即视感…… 如果有别的offer就别考虑这个了……
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ldbphilly
这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:52

这个太不professional了 什么公司这么烂
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alicechentian
如果你还有severance, 就说I am still on the payroll of XXX company
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provencebebe
这个有可能,所以最好有multiple offer。我以前被layoff, HR的人出offer时,我想negotiate 一下,他居然说your current compensation is 0, so that is a big jump already. 所以我后来告诉HR我已经另有offer了,才给我加了点钱。资本家啊。。
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:52

This is illegal in California. If you are in CA, HR 不能用以前的工资作为basis。如果LZ在别的州,不清楚rules。但下次加州的人可以说清楚你问我以前的工资来作为现任工作的参考是不合法的
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shoppingspree
你就回答为啥觉得这个工作适合你你适合这个位置就行了,没必要那么实诚回答为何离开上一份工作。
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ChairmanXi
回复 30楼alicechentian的帖子
为啥要告诉interviewer 🈶️severance? 这不是标配吗?
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ChairmanXi
回复 32楼shoppingspree的帖子
但是我估计interviewer最关心的就是这点了。你不回答他还是会追问的吧?
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grace1025
layoff 后面试的时候被问为什么会找工作如何回答?需要如实说被Layoff了吗?这样说了会拿到next step 的面试吗?
如果我是招聘的人,如果有两个差不多的candidate,一个被Layoff,一个是现在还有工作,我会选那个有工作的,而且如果layoff之后的gap太长(比如3个月以上),我就很不太会考虑。大家说这种想法有道理吗?


ChairmanXi 发表于 2023-07-31 13:39

所以你是被layoff过的人,还这么瞧不起被layoff的人?!
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fatboyslim2022
回复 1楼ChairmanXi的帖子
一定要实话实说,可以稍微夸张但是基本事实不能扭曲。发现你说谎比知道你被layoff更会turndown offer。
你可以说,公司改制,新的位置自己不合适,或者说新的职位没有chellenge, 所以自己选择拿大包裹离开公司再找合适的职位
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neverAgain
赞chatgpt
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lovemykids
Mark
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graceshcn
我当年被雷找工作别人问就是实话实说的
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Julia1985
实话实说,美国laid off那么常见
幸运之神
我就不明白。我是不是被layoff,关下一份工作什么事儿?谁规定非得告诉他们。
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Ruth
我就不明白。我是不是被layoff,关下一份工作什么事儿?谁规定非得告诉他们。
幸运之神 发表于 2023-07-31 19:42

人家问的是为啥找工作,人家需要通过你的回答来判断你是不是适合他们,比如你不喜欢上家的理由是否合理,那些情况他们是否也有,你喜欢这家的理由是否真的是他们能提供的,。。。你可以拒绝回答为啥要找工作/换工作--这也会提供信息给对方。
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Forgiveu
layoff 是前公司的原因还是自己的原因?面试的时候人家问你现在的工作状态你打算怎么回答?自己辞职也得有个理由。说谎被发现那就没戏了。
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Cath226
Layoff不会是不选你的理由,但是是可能Low Ball你的理由
westlake 发表于 2023-07-31 13:46

同意。以及,有其他offer可解。
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kittyblue
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:55

没人比CHATGPT 更SWEET,更情商高了
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Ella2020
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:55

写得真好呀
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witmail
你想多了吧,就算面试时候不说,背景调查一查就出来了
Feifei6789 发表于 2023-07-31 13:40

You can ask hr not to contact current employer.
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zojirushi
chatgpt's reply. Example response: "I recently experienced a layoff from my previous company due to some restructuring and cost-cutting measures. While the experience was challenging, I am grateful for the skills I gained and the accomplishments I achieved during my time there. Now, I am looking for a new opportunity where I can continue to grow professionally and contribute my expertise. Your company, with its excellent reputation and exciting projects, aligns perfectly with my career goals, and I am enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your team." Remember that layoffs are a common occurrence, and many employers understand that it's often beyond an individual's control. Focus on how you can add value to their organization and demonstrate your enthusiasm for the position, and you'll make a positive impression during the interview process.
健康平安 发表于 2023-07-31 13:55

太牛了
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zojirushi
I am actively seeking new opportunities as I believe it's the right time for me to take the next step in my career. I have had some valuable experiences in my previous role, and now I'm eager to leverage my skills and expertise to contribute to a dynamic and innovative team like yours.
I have been very proactive in continuously learning and developing professionally, and I'm excited to apply my knowledge in a new setting where I can make a significant impact. Your company's reputation for fostering a positive and collaborative work environment aligns perfectly with what I'm looking for in my next position.
I believe my unique skill set and dedication to personal growth will enable me to excel in this role and add value to the team. I'm genuinely enthusiastic about the possibility of joining your organization and contributing to its continued success.
常然 发表于 2023-07-31 13:56

这个也是ChatGPT?
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zojirushi
你就回答为啥觉得这个工作适合你你适合这个位置就行了,没必要那么实诚回答为何离开上一份工作。
shoppingspree 发表于 2023-07-31 17:18

我也觉得即使你说了这些 HR还是会push绕回来一开始那个问题
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zojirushi
回复 1楼ChairmanXi的帖子
一定要实话实说,可以稍微夸张但是基本事实不能扭曲。发现你说谎比知道你被layoff更会turndown offer。
你可以说,公司改制,新的位置自己不合适,或者说新的职位没有chellenge, 所以自己选择拿大包裹离开公司再找合适的职位
fatboyslim2022 发表于 2023-07-31 18:08

谢谢 这个回答好; 公司改制,新的位置自己不合适,或者说新的职位没有chellenge, 所以自己选择拿大包裹离开公司再找合适的职位


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Ruth
You can ask hr not to contact current employer.
witmail 发表于 2023-07-31 20:21

只能要求对方不联系前雇主要reference ,你是否在那个公司工作过,工作起止时间,人家要做背景调查你怎么阻止,背景调查现在都是第三方去查,第三方回复,怕打草惊蛇影响现在工作的理由不成立的。
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dinglingling
我以前都是说公司因为大环境不好, 业务萎缩所以被雷, 好像没觉得有影响到别人给我offer
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Night_Cat
实话实说,没必要遮掩
没有道理,这种candidate公司至少知道他在真心找工作,没道理不要,而且很可能更省钱
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majia___majia
HR之间的圈子也不大的,尤其是同行业的。所以你就只能实话实说了。
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majia___majia
回复 8楼健康平安的帖子
这hr这么硬气吗? 那至少给一个market average反击一下。
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babyking
背景调查不查雇佣记录的,不必担心
就按自己没被layoff那么说
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minqidev
比较好的答案是, 公司把这部分业务外包到了印度,部门取消了
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zjy1986
Hr问要实话实说layoff 面试问可以转成为什么选择这家公司以及自己的职业期望 我觉得啊
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azurepiggy~2代
你如果现在还在上班,另说,如果已经被layoff,老老实实讲啊,我面试别人有点经验,有时候明明是OK的理由,藏着掖着不知情的人还以为你有啥坏事呢。
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Dede2012506
实话实说