https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-rips-republicans-over-ppp-loans-student-loan-forgiveness-2022-8#rep-kevin-hern-4 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia said this week that student loan forgiveness was "completely unfair" to "taxpayers that never took out a student loan." Data from the Small Business Administration that was compiled by ProPublica showed Greene's business had $183,504 in PPP loans forgiven, which included the original loan of $182,300 and accrued interest. The relief money was spent on payroll, according to the data. Rep. Vern Buchanan Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida said Wednesday the student-loan forgiveness plan was "reckless" and "unfair" to Americans without student-loan debt "who played by the rules." A company Buchanan owns a $50 million stake in, according to the Tampa Bay Times, had more than $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven, per the ProPublica database, which said the funds were spent on payroll. Rep. Markwayne Mullin Rep. Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma spoke out against canceling student debt on Wednesday, writing: "We do not need farmers and ranchers, small business owners, and teachers in Oklahoma paying the debts of Ivy League lawyers and doctors across the US." He also tweeted: "There is no such thing as free lunch." Companies that are owned by Mullin, according to The Associated Press, had more than $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven, the ProPublica data showed. The loaned money was spent on payroll, the data said. Rep. Kevin Hern Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma condemned the student-loan forgiveness plan and said it forced working-class Americans to "pay for other people's college degrees." A corporation that is controlled by Hern, according to Bloomberg, had more than $1 million in PPP loans forgiven, per the ProPublica data, which said the loaned funds were spent on payroll and healthcare. Rep. Mike Kelly Rep. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania said canceling student loans was "bad policy" and "unfair," saying it asked "plumbers and carpenters to pay off the loans of Wall Street advisors and lawyers." Multiple companies that are owned by Kelly, according to Politico, had at least $715,000 forgiven, all spent on payroll, the ProPublica data showed. The White House said Kelly had more than $987,000 forgiven, but Insider could not confirm that higher amount. Rep. Matt Gaetz Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida said Wednesday "instead of wiping away student loan debt with a presidential executive order, we ought to allow people who are victims of predatory systems to declare bankruptcy." "It would shatter the foundation of higher-ed finance," Gaetz continued. A company Gaetz has reported being a shareholder of had $482,321 in PPP loans forgiven, with the relief funds spent on payroll, the ProPublica data showed.
But borrowers are eligible for debt cancellation only if they have reached a certain threshold, or if they’ve accumulated the equivalent of either 20 or 25 years of qualifying months. For most borrowers, that means you will need to have been in repayment for 240 or 300 months in either an income-driven repayment plan (where payments vary based on a borrower’s income and family size) or a standard repayment plan. 这是啥高利贷啊，20-25年都换不清。
以后是不是要免除其他贷款了
太愚蠢了
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过不了几天，红州又告到最高法院，贿选又黄了，上次就是这个剧本
之前好像真没关注过，是Trump疫情期间搞的那个减免吗
二十年前美国就是这样的！
可笑就是自己有点小钱的少数民族，阶层固化的话还能落得个好？
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毕竟很多人不读大学，挺好的
低利率的环境下，大学贷款利息贴息负担并不重
美国的经济从来就是建立在借钱，免债这个循环上的。
美国为什么是最富有的国家？因为向全世界借钱
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia said this week that student loan forgiveness was "completely unfair" to "taxpayers that never took out a student loan." Data from the Small Business Administration that was compiled by ProPublica showed Greene's business had $183,504 in PPP loans forgiven, which included the original loan of $182,300 and accrued interest. The relief money was spent on payroll, according to the data.
Rep. Vern Buchanan Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida said Wednesday the student-loan forgiveness plan was "reckless" and "unfair" to Americans without student-loan debt "who played by the rules." A company Buchanan owns a $50 million stake in, according to the Tampa Bay Times, had more than $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven, per the ProPublica database, which said the funds were spent on payroll.
Rep. Markwayne Mullin Rep. Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma spoke out against canceling student debt on Wednesday, writing: "We do not need farmers and ranchers, small business owners, and teachers in Oklahoma paying the debts of Ivy League lawyers and doctors across the US." He also tweeted: "There is no such thing as free lunch." Companies that are owned by Mullin, according to The Associated Press, had more than $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven, the ProPublica data showed. The loaned money was spent on payroll, the data said.
Rep. Kevin Hern Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma condemned the student-loan forgiveness plan and said it forced working-class Americans to "pay for other people's college degrees." A corporation that is controlled by Hern, according to Bloomberg, had more than $1 million in PPP loans forgiven, per the ProPublica data, which said the loaned funds were spent on payroll and healthcare.
Rep. Mike Kelly Rep. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania said canceling student loans was "bad policy" and "unfair," saying it asked "plumbers and carpenters to pay off the loans of Wall Street advisors and lawyers." Multiple companies that are owned by Kelly, according to Politico, had at least $715,000 forgiven, all spent on payroll, the ProPublica data showed. The White House said Kelly had more than $987,000 forgiven, but Insider could not confirm that higher amount.
Rep. Matt Gaetz Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida said Wednesday "instead of wiping away student loan debt with a presidential executive order, we ought to allow people who are victims of predatory systems to declare bankruptcy." "It would shatter the foundation of higher-ed finance," Gaetz continued. A company Gaetz has reported being a shareholder of had $482,321 in PPP loans forgiven, with the relief funds spent on payroll, the ProPublica data showed.
本质就是贿选，也不知道有没有什么法律管管，不然以后选举就变比谁发钱多了。
我们联合起来拒绝缴税吧！
而且Trump当年已经pause student loan免除interest. 都知道要免，就是不能让民主党拿credit
如果学费是几千元的可以这样说，现在美国好点的学校基本上万
这是新冠期间的特殊政策吗？这些贷款不是全部可以免除的吗？怎么记得有很多限制条件。最好解释一下，不然太误导人了。
另外助学贷款， 不能refinance， 破产以后也不能免除， 有predatory loan 的嫌疑。
那你大概率要投共和党才有希望。因为减免学贷是民主党和progressive的政策。
你这说的是人话吗？穷人就是靠读书改变自己的命运的。 大学学费这么贵，有几个家庭付得起全额的？
而且不包住宿吧，住宿又是一笔钱。相对来说国内人性化多了
对。。光学费。 包住宿还要起码多上万块一年。 Umass armhert对外州学生的全包学费已经上5W了。
所以大部分人根本就付不起学费啊。不知道楼里说话不腰疼的都是些什么人，这可是读书的钱，又不是去吃喝嫖赌的钱。至少interest不应该这么高。年轻人好不容易毕业了，还要还学贷，对社会对经济都是不好的
读书前付不起学费所以给你贷款给你机会读书，然后你读完书还是还不起贷款？那你读书前后的区别是？其实还不如不读书
这句话你对你自己孩子说吧，读不起书就别读了。 你自己算一下4年学费加利息new grad工资付不付得起
美国的医疗，教育这些essential service都是high price tag，就是资本家褥羊毛的工具
心虚什么，还怕引用。
很多大公司入职后可以给你还学贷，当然前提是你自己能被录用，我的学贷就是这么解决的。再说了，学贷慢慢还啊，人家让你一毕业就还清了？？觉得自己将来就是换不起学贷的，当初为什么要申请学贷？你自己读书前后没区别，为什么要读书？
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会有公司帮还学贷的 我之前工作过的公司，每个月帮你还你工资2%的学贷。 但是！这样的公司太少了啊，也不是人人能碰上。
这都没听说过。太多top公司，银行的package里有帮忙还学贷的条款了。
说明你从来没在top的地方工作过
而且有些top的学校，可以给被录取的外国学生做担保，使得学生可以获取私人银行比如曾经的CITI贷款
大部分公司都不offer的 狗家我知道有offer，但是一年也就2500（而且这已经很多了，有些公司一个月就给50刀） 脸书就没有，在你这边就不算top公司了？
另外你说的私人银行贷款那利率更贵了，我看你根本就没有在美国读过书。
宾大的financial aid不是纳税人的钱啊
由学校担保的私人银行贷款没有比联邦贷款利率高。我说的都是我的亲身经历，不像你满嘴跑火车，不懂装懂。
你就整天心虚的禁止引用，呵呵
别在这儿误导人了，private bank比federal差多了 你说是你的亲身经历？，那我问一下你，你的每个月还款多少
private student loan也有条款可以申请延期还，但是要在一定时间范围内。正常情况是毕业半年后就开始还贷，但如果毕业没及时找到工作，可以和他们申请延期还的
不懂装懂你才误导人，我当时学贷的利率是四点几。
private基本30天就会report的。我们说的是late payment
正常人都不会take private over federal的 楼上别人已经说的很清楚了。
我觉得你还是多长长见识，没见识虚心一些也行。没见识不虚心还满嘴跑火车反而倒打一趴说别人没在美国学习工作，你这种美华只会丢美华的脸。
笑死了，我们都是在客观讨论 你连federal和private的terms都不清楚，在这儿胡说八道误导别人，我看你就是读书太少了像个文盲一样只会攻击别人
被我们学校录取的外国学生尤其是发展中国家来的，十之八九都申请了，学校担保，手续简单利率好钱瞬间到账。自己申请需要老爸老妈担保的这种可不就麻烦多了
这些top公司能容纳多少大学毕业生？
你这么说等于是说除了极少部分大部分不要读大学算了
另外，教师工资一出来基本就是只能养活自己，所以大学生不要学教育，大家都homeschooled算了
申请federal不需要爸妈担保的，都说了你不懂了，呵呵
我一直说的是private student loan, 我说的是我自己的亲身经历，不像你，满嘴跑的不知道开向哪里的火车。谢谢
估计就是你这种人，读书前知道借贷，读书后不知道还贷，脸真大
你别听她瞎说的 大公司我也就知道google有offer，facebook都没有 很多公司都没有offer的，或者也只有一个月50刀这种也算offer了，总之能帮助还款的很少
你逻辑有问题吧？你前面说申请private贷款不需要爸妈担保，我说federal本来就不需要爸妈担保的啊？你是看不懂中文吗？文盲？我真觉得你书是白读了
还有各种各样各种名目来头的奖学金，自己去search,自己写essay去申请啊，比如我入学的时候就有个机构给来自亚洲发展中国家的女性设置的奖学金，申请成功后，只要接下来每个学期GPA达到一定标准，就可以给。总之，办法多的是，自己想自己努力去争取啊，非得脸皮厚的只会要钱不肯还钱？说白了这种人道德水平都堪忧，我要是招人我肯定不会要。
很多银行和一些学校有长期合作项目，这样如果你被这所学校录取了即使你是国际学生，你也可以由这个学校替你做担保申请贷款，就不需要爸妈做担保了。如果你没有参与这个项目或者是入读的没有这种项目的学校，并且需要申请private student loan,那你就需要父母或者其他人为你做担保。我真的觉得你这种智商只能在美国混
扯不过loans开始扯scholarship了 你以为大家都是白痴吗？别人不知道有scholarship这件事情？真觉得你逻辑有问题。
对，对你这种智商和人品的来说这些都不是路，只有舔着脸要钱然后不还钱才是唯一可行的路
再说一遍 federal loan本来就不需要父母担保 所以你的这个并不是benefit 听不懂吗？
呵呵，真不愧是野鸡大学出来的 别人在帖子里讨论贷款，你说不过就开始扯奖学金，扯不过就开始骂人，你可真牛逼呀。
在美国任何政策本质上都是分蛋糕
明白人都知道话语权越大分的越多，只有华人只给提供情绪蛋糕，就是所谓民主自由的道德制高点的情绪蛋糕， 实际好处全分给其他人
造成 物价狂涨，股市狂涨
这说到底就是一个资源问题，比如现存各种奖学金还有大公司找人帮还学贷的能cover十万人，但大学生有一百万，所以你说法就是其他九十万负担不了这么贵的学费就不应该上大学
粉红时就说国内大学学费低多好多有助阶层流动，说到这边就好像学费不是个问题似的，这逻辑果然是野鸡大学毕业的
我觉得你们才是逻辑堪忧，你们一直强调读书前付不起学费就丧失了读书的机会，所以才给你们贷款给你们机会上学呀。
然后你们还不满意，又接着强调上学毕业后还是还不起贷款，所以来去只有一条路就是得让别人给你们付钱你们上学，然后你们赚的钱都是你们自己的才可以。同样的逻辑，是不是一人说我穷但我还是想住大房子，所以我申请房贷但我还不起，所以把房贷给我免了，大房子我还是要接着住。
我就想问问，别人为什么有义务给你们付钱让你们上大学？
要想共产主义大家可以一起共产主义，大学免学费大家都免不论贫富，税率涨大家都涨。别总拿自己的成绩不行能力不足当优势理所应当的让别人给你们买单。
当然了，估计在楼里一部分人眼里看来，这么多坎还读什么书，有什么资格想改变现状，专心做底层工作的奴隶就好了。
我不支持长期完全取消学贷，政府应该整治现在学费过高学贷泛滥的情况但这估计要花很长时间。支持取消企业小额贷款非要踩取消学贷的就是双标。
我觉得很多人对这个的抵触是觉得不公平：有一些人靠节衣缩食打几份工，或者去伊拉克阿富汗拼命，来付了大学学费。如果这不是forgive existing loan 而是going forward 应该阻力小的多。
说的好啊 美国过去20多年在中东打仗花了7万亿美元，今年军费奔9000亿去了。 美国学贷全部是1.8万亿美圆。
美国人应该想明白，交上去的税是用来打仗，还是用来给自己后代付学费呢？
只花钱不用付钱当然是好事当然轻松了，同理零元购，拿了一堆东西不用付钱乐此不疲，小商家怎么办？只能提高商品物价让老老实实规规矩矩付钱的人cover这些。如果是国家把钱用在国民身上，全民上大学免费买东西免费，那是另外一回事，但这不是资本主义最痛恨的共产主义吗？
我说的就是全民免学费 你拿零元购物来说是逻辑不在线上和难缠蛮横。
你的例子0⃣️元购物一个是给犯罪行为买单 这个是政策演变的必须过程。
按照这个楼主跟你的说法就是就在我们这些人有生之年看到免学费同样会永远投不通过的那一票 因为这些人有生之年没有免学费下一代也甭想
问题上 黄右们一旦赚不到便宜就认为是吃了大亏 不患寡而患不均
学贷是穷人的事情 军火商都是富人 当然是用穷人的钱填补富人，你以为资本家闲的？
美国大部分政府拨款都是打仗用的 你看一天天地给鸟克兰资助，钱从哪儿来？ 只有很小一部分给教育
全民免学费是体制的事情，是资本主义和共产主义的事情，当然遥不可及
但是当下给部分人免学贷，是总统的贿选行为，不是为了什么将来共产主义，其实就是一种犯罪行为。
你看不懂我前面的回帖是吧？
不一样吧。PPP是病毒期间政府要求你small business关门，还不能layoff员工，所以给你减免。这个学生贷款完全没有限制你找工作用收入还贷款啊
PPP有很多滥用的。
我好奇你和楼主看不看新闻 免学贷又不是每个人都免的，只是免一部分，而且是免最穷的那批学生（不是每个人都qualify的），就这样还被最高院否了。最高院，从反堕胎开始，就是和普通人对着干。让这个社会的穷人和女人生不如死。当然啊，就你这智商，你这格局八成是不懂的。
哈哈，又开始心虚禁引用了。
这么说吧，你上学前是穷人，大家给你机会，借钱给你读书。你读完马上翻脸不认人，觉得别人就该给自己付学费，理由就是自己还不起贷款。你说一个读完书连自己学贷都还不起的人，你指望他为社会出力？
哈哈，我一开始就和你说了，没有禁止引用是系统bug 我告诉你，这个世界上大部分人都是还不起学贷的，因为美国的学费很贵。你这个人呢。，不仅不讲道理，而且对这个社会上的穷人毫无同情心，我不知道你这个人存在世界上的意义是什么？Over不想和你争辩了，浪费时间。