男克只是被弹劾，虽然很多人也认为这是政治挂帅。最后也没有弹劾成功。 川普上台以后，左派就没停止过折腾，从通俄门开始，两次弹劾，各种挖底，起诉川普，川普business，川普周围的人，没有停止过吧。 所以，这就是政治迫害。一点冤枉的空间都没有。give me the man, I will give you the crime。任何集权国家都能干的事情。 其他的案子同样以政治迫害为目的的。这种案子根本没有讨论的意义。因为，目标就是川普。有问题扩大问题，没问题产生问题。 纽约的案子最好的例子。这个DA上台以后把各种重性犯罪都变成disdemeanor，却把川普的这个问题加重成felony。就这还不明显。竟然还要讨论法律。这有什么法律精神？ 再说，克林顿就是以pay hush money闻名的，帮他pay hush money的就是希拉里。左派帮克林顿辩护的时候，law and order呢？这是有正义感？根本就是没有三观，只有斗争罢了。
RE 最荒唐，也最恶心就是这些人说什么law and order。 epstein都死多久了，怎么不见他们叫law and order？牵涉bill gates，bill clinton的就不重视law and order了。 Nancy pelosi明显的内线交易股票，左派也集体噤声，这个时候就不需要打到违法的有钱人了。就看不到受苦受难的民众了。拜登儿子在乌克兰收钱，拜登把人家检察总长开除了。左派不但不要求调查，还说调查就是政治迫害。那个时候也不知道law and order 哪里去了。 hunter 拜登的laptop，马上喊，假的。都是假的，是俄国的阴谋。等过了选举，悄悄说，是真的，马上有人跳出来说，it's not a big deal。 这种人还有资格称别人罪有因的，也是蜜汁自信啊。
很明显，你根本不可能选共和党总统。不说别的，就以堕胎法案为例，川普是不支持严格的堕胎法案的。在这点上，他比好多共和党候选人左。还有social security，他也不赞成cut social security。川普也不赞成战争。 要说Policy，共和党候选人里，川普的policy是偏左的。你都不选川普了，还会选其他人？
RE 最荒唐，也最恶心就是这些人说什么law and order。 epstein都死多久了，怎么不见他们叫law and order？牵涉bill gates，bill clinton的就不重视law and order了。 Nancy pelosi明显的内线交易股票，左派也集体噤声，这个时候就不需要打到违法的有钱人了。就看不到受苦受难的民众了。拜登儿子在乌克兰收钱，拜登把人家检察总长开除了。左派不但不要求调查，还说调查就是政治迫害。那个时候也不知道law and order 哪里去了。 hunter 拜登的laptop，马上喊，假的。都是假的，是俄国的阴谋。等过了选举，悄悄说，是真的，马上有人跳出来说，it's not a big deal。 这种人还有资格称别人罪有因的，也是蜜汁自信啊。 扶苏 发表于 2023-04-04 11:18
说到law and order，两党半斤八两，记得当初懂王可是高呼lock her up口号来竞选的，可真的当选后，有后续了么，没有吧，所以呀，别再扯着嗓子喊law and order了，自个共和党都做不到的，自然也别指望人民主党能做到
说到law and order，两党半斤八两，记得当初懂王可是高呼lock her up口号来竞选的，可真的当选后，有后续了么，没有吧，所以呀，别再扯着嗓子喊law and order了，自个共和党都做不到的，自然也别指望人民主党能做到 banlisu 发表于 2023-04-04 11:35
当然有， 2018年，问下 Trey Gowdy House Republicans wrap their investigation into FBI's handling of Clinton and Russia probes 2019年 POLITICS OCTOBER 18, 20198:10 PMUPDATED 3 YEARS AGO Clinton email probe finds no deliberate mishandling of classified information By Reuters Staff WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. State Department investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state has found no evidence of deliberate mishandling of classified information by department employees. 2023年 It’s 2023 and the GOP Is Still Obsessed With Hillary Clinton’s Emails BY KARA VOGHT FEBRUARY 9, 2023 3:44PM EST
说少了，斯坦佛大学的Victor Hanson老爷子一下子列了20个民主党应该被定罪的例子 Or, to put it another way: what crime did Trump not do that others did with either impunity or without being arrested? Here is a sample of 20. 1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence. 2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server. 3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent. 4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions. 5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel. 6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium. 7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea. 8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests. 9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs. 10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices. 11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records. 12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators. 12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators. 13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress. 14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress. 15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress. 16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller. 17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation. 18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.” 19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas. 20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood. Yuanqq 发表于 2023-04-04 07:24
说少了，斯坦佛大学的Victor Hanson老爷子一下子列了20个民主党应该被定罪的例子 Or, to put it another way: what crime did Trump not do that others did with either impunity or without being arrested? Here is a sample of 20. 1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence. 2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server. 3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent. 4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions. 5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel. 6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium. 7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea. 8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests. 9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs. 10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices. 11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records. 12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators. 12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators. 13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress. 14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress. 15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress. 16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller. 17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation. 18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.” 19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas. 20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood. Yuanqq 发表于 2023-04-04 07:24
Trey Gowdy on Fox News: "I think it's kinda staggering that you can be accused of something that involves an adult film star, and it not hurt you in a Republican primary." pic.twitter.com/SWd3j3UHZ0 — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 4, 2023
川普这点做得不好 Jon Cooper @joncoopertweets BREAKING: Trump just posted a picture of the Manhattan judge's DAUGHTER on Truth Social. He knows what he's doing.
这样真不好！ Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric Trump, and Donald Trump Jr. have all posted photos of the judge’s daughter on social media. My God. whatislife 发表于 2023-04-04 15:42
这样真不好！ Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric Trump, and Donald Trump Jr. have all posted photos of the judge’s daughter on social media. My God. whatislife 发表于 2023-04-04 15:42
川普这点做得不好 Jon Cooper @joncoopertweets BREAKING: Trump just posted a picture of the Manhattan judge's DAUGHTER on Truth Social. He knows what he's doing. whatislife 发表于 2023-04-04 15:25
Trey Gowdy on Fox News: "I think it's kinda staggering that you can be accused of something that involves an adult film star, and it not hurt you in a Republican primary." pic.twitter.com/SWd3j3UHZ0 — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 4, 2023
这样真不好！ Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric Trump, and Donald Trump Jr. have all posted photos of the judge’s daughter on social media. My God. whatislife 发表于 2023-04-04 15:42
我其实对他被这件事抓住罪行也不是特别感兴趣。但是回过头来想想，当年男克被弹劾，也不是因为他的绯闻，是因为他在绯闻的问题上撒谎。虽然被民主党挡下来了（不赞成挡下来，就像是不赞成川普被共和党两次挡下来一样，做错了事就要接受惩罚）。纽约的检察官，我不觉得他这么做是为了民主党，他是作为检察官，做了他该做的事（违法就应该起诉）。 川普另外的三个案子，都比现在的要大，一个是佐治亚的干扰选举，有录音，也有很多证人在大陪审团作证。第二个是机密文件，这个，他自己大嘴说的话其实已经证明了一切。第三个是1/6，也在进行中。这三个案子，是我觉得他更应该被起诉的案子，我相信，到最后，也是会被起诉的，只是时间问题。 所以我说，这个案子只是大餐之前的开胃菜。
左和右谁也灭不了谁，以后只会越来越极端，互相伤害，互相恶心，不信你看这搂里叫好的几位，一会儿又要忙着去另一楼哭天喊地骂右派的极端政策了，不都是你们要的吗，谁也别怨谁。
川普确实不是个好人。但是选这个时候起诉他，要说跟下届大选没有关系，我反正是不相信的。
哈哈😄
就拿最大的案子1/6号来说，判了好处也有限。的确有一半人认为他的动机是独裁，另一半人却坚定认为他是冒天下大不畏宁可被“误解”也要拯救美国于邪恶建制派之手，他要是被判刑，完全不改变他在后者眼里的地位，他还成英雄了呢。 这次一样，我觉得很爽，他活该。但右派看来，这次事件果然印证左派玩斗争，过界也无所谓，就像你也知道克林顿撒谎事件最终还是放过了，双方最终都接受了两派合作。所以很难理解右派坚定认为左派这次是完全撕破脸把党派利益置于国家之上这种说法吗？应该不难理解下次右派也会有样学样吧？而这次川普定罪，反建制派的更加坚定理解为邪恶权威果然要整死所有对抗者，以什么理由并不重要。你理解的法律、你理解的什么是维护美国，跟他们理解的这两个概念已经南辕北辙了，意识不到这一点是无法合作的，双方做的任何事在对方眼里都是无理取闹。 其他事件同理。
男克只是被弹劾，虽然很多人也认为这是政治挂帅。最后也没有弹劾成功。
川普上台以后，左派就没停止过折腾，从通俄门开始，两次弹劾，各种挖底，起诉川普，川普business，川普周围的人，没有停止过吧。
所以，这就是政治迫害。一点冤枉的空间都没有。give me the man, I will give you the crime。任何集权国家都能干的事情。
其他的案子同样以政治迫害为目的的。这种案子根本没有讨论的意义。因为，目标就是川普。有问题扩大问题，没问题产生问题。
纽约的案子最好的例子。这个DA上台以后把各种重性犯罪都变成disdemeanor，却把川普的这个问题加重成felony。就这还不明显。竟然还要讨论法律。这有什么法律精神？
再说，克林顿就是以pay hush money闻名的，帮他pay hush money的就是希拉里。左派帮克林顿辩护的时候，law and order呢？这是有正义感？根本就是没有三观，只有斗争罢了。
以前我觉得川普不一定是好人。但是经过5年的挖底，从生意，到税务，到个人作风，我反而觉得川普估计还真没什么可起诉的。至于其他政治人物，比如奥巴，拜登，克林顿，布什，我还真不敢说他们有多干净。
眼瞎才会认为川普不是好人。他要不是好人，这么多年都起诉不了？还非得现抓？
通俄门已经展示了FBI可是没在客气的。不惜制造伪证把川普拉下来。一般人放他这个位置，第一次就被弹劾了吧。
很难说。川普的命格有点越打压越强大。确实有点小强的意思。就看他自己的表现了。其实他还是有竞争对手的。比如Desantis。川普管不好自己的嘴，还是有大概率翻船的。就看他自己聪明不聪明了。
共和党如果不和TRUMP切割，50年没有共和党总统。 去年中期大选，搞成这个样子，共和党只有一部分人清醒。
RE 最荒唐，也最恶心就是这些人说什么law and order。
epstein都死多久了，怎么不见他们叫law and order？牵涉bill gates，bill clinton的就不重视law and order了。
Nancy pelosi明显的内线交易股票，左派也集体噤声，这个时候就不需要打到违法的有钱人了。就看不到受苦受难的民众了。拜登儿子在乌克兰收钱，拜登把人家检察总长开除了。左派不但不要求调查，还说调查就是政治迫害。那个时候也不知道law and order 哪里去了。
hunter 拜登的laptop，马上喊，假的。都是假的，是俄国的阴谋。等过了选举，悄悄说，是真的，马上有人跳出来说，it's not a big deal。
这种人还有资格称别人罪有因的，也是蜜汁自信啊。
共和党本来就已经很明显分裂了呀。上议院和下议院在很多问题上的观点已经不同了。比如乌克兰援助。要是团结，怎么可能众议院党魁投票那么波折？共和党内有一部分populist的人，和建制党是对着干的。
至于说团结，共和党底层确实因为这件事情开始团结了。因为再一次印证，左派斗争起来毫无底线。根本不可能有decency。没有decency也就罢了，必须的还要把自己包装成站在道德高地上，颠倒一下黑白。
很明显，你根本不可能选共和党总统。不说别的，就以堕胎法案为例，川普是不支持严格的堕胎法案的。在这点上，他比好多共和党候选人左。还有social security，他也不赞成cut social security。川普也不赞成战争。
要说Policy，共和党候选人里，川普的policy是偏左的。你都不选川普了，还会选其他人？
标题说的法官不让录像。
左派和共和党建制派是有合作余地的，但是和信Q的那一小撮人是你死我活的关系，好像还有什么两派合作的余地一样。。。
真理的范围等于大炮的射程，反正不管是合法的搞选举，还是半地下的proud boys vs antifa，GQP都没有出路
哪里有什么民主党，共和党，两党区别只不过是鸡毛蒜皮的小事，比如让不让男的上女厕所。 花多少钱买选票。 。 都是建制派，在国内就是贪污腐败分子。
trump群众基础太好了， 这不正是民意吗？
这么多韭菜好站着贪污腐败分子那边，卖了帮着数钱
果然是懂王的真爱粉呀
你看看历史。 这是美国国运衰退。 要打仗的前兆
lol，共和党底层一帮半截入土的白老头白老太太团结起来又咋样呢？就算不团结反正他们也不会去投Dem
和党的一帮娘娘们不算好人也不算坏人，大多是些没什么用的人。 2020年的下场已经注定了他们自己搞是根本没机会的。
说到law and order，两党半斤八两，记得当初懂王可是高呼lock her up口号来竞选的，可真的当选后，有后续了么，没有吧，所以呀，别再扯着嗓子喊law and order了，自个共和党都做不到的，自然也别指望人民主党能做到
你要知道这帮共和党基本盘的白老头白老太太才是最大的票房毒药，就是要让他们党内初选把川普和一帮子election denier选上去，然后大选被教做人
说实话trump的政策真的是属于温和派不想打仗不搞激化矛盾的议题。哪怕是贸易战最后只是为了fair trade罢了。没办法，断了太多的人财路和生计。
如果你关心政治，你会发现共和党内部的声音并不统一。包括，堕胎法案，乌克兰援助，对待非法移民的态度，对待covid以及疫苗的态度。
Mitch McConnel确实和Nancy Pelosi在大问题上方针一致。堕胎法案就是GOP建制派抛出来转移矛盾的。GOP底层根本不关心这个议题。GOP底层最关心的就是inflation，south border，war，学校woke问题。
你会认为川普上台比拜登更差？really？
川普上台不会打仗。他立场已经很鲜明了。他不会跟俄国开战，也不会跟中国开战。拜登倒是有可能。
法官是根据川普律师的动议做出这个决定的。有时间去看看英文的新闻（铺天盖地的，哪个媒体给的都是一样的），你就不用跟我争这个了
可见你完全不关心政治。只是多看了几眼CNN,MSNBC而已。
还是多看看youtube上的独立媒体报道吧。Joe Rogan也可以看看。代表了美国普通人的思维。
因为韭菜觉得民主党会帮他们实现打土豪分田地，让他们过上北欧高福利生活。
真不好说，记得去年拜登大张旗鼓说MAGA的时候也有很多人说他失算了，会激起更多反抗的民意。但是看看中期选举民主党比预期好得多的结果。。。
反正我是不敢如此预测未来的。美国未来这五十年，啥情况都有可能
川普就是嘴贱。他上台希拉里受调查了？通俄门都证实是希拉里团队买的消息，放给FBI和媒体，有事吗？什么事都没有。包括希拉里花竞选的钱买通俄门的资料，也就罚款而已。
所以，到底是谁没底线，谁没有正义感？
有这个意思，把懂王拱上去，让共和党其他党员没机会，这样就能掌控票数了
正义感，笑了，两党厮杀哪来的正义感，都是要靠下三滥来抹黑对方才能胜出
2022年中期选举已经给你们GQP上过一课了，不服的话2024年可以再出来上一课。新移民和年轻人普遍左倾，白老头白老太太们一年死一两百万，此消彼长，好日子长得很呢~~
民主党是铁了心要帮助Trump 赢得党内 这样，两党对决的时候中间派只好投民主党 Biden 就是被 never trump 选上了的
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我支持查
新冠是他能力不够造成的 不是主观的，但是1/6的叛国罪，34项经济犯罪没法洗
不用等那么长了，美国这两年已经衰败的吓到所有人了，看看隔壁楼多少人讨论美元地位不保，已经有树倒猢狲散的样子了。
没有啥是一成不变的，Q说穿了就是出于各种五花八门个人原因而对现有机制的一切都产生了怀疑的一帮人。建制派也不是人人都觉得自己被现有机制保护着，他/她可以从思想上彻底转变成Q，也可以单纯利用Q，还可以两者之间。就像trump搞1/6，我不觉得他是真信他那些狂热崇拜者理论，但我信他是真心爱他的粉丝
人家的law and order可能都不是指世俗的law & order，至少不是指现行的法律秩序。 两边都喊，但喊的其实是两码事。互相diss对方的标准
这只黄右说这么多不如去捐一块钱有用
GOP底层最关心的就是inflation，south border，war，学校woke问题。
如果是一个正常国家，这些问题难道不是正常人都最关心的。那该关心什么？
川粉说被告是好事 赢麻了
你说的并不准确 新移民中除了中国人大都偏左 中国人确实大部分的甘做黄右
我也这么理解。 这楼里的左派好像认为真有什么“神圣不可辜负”的法律，其实大部分人不是这么认为的。法律本身只不过是约定俗成的一种妥协，这才是现实生活里所有人对“法律”的共识，比法律条款更要命的是人，是人的屁股。大部分人没事不会专门去挑战法律的公正，然而这绝不等于对某一案件的结论只此一家别无分店。 这次川普的定罪，很多gop人的读解就是民主党的态度，拿法律说事而已
告诉你吧，我既讨厌左，也讨厌右。当然了，你这种二极管思维理解不了。只要是和你意见不一致，就开始人身攻击。所以，你的行为只证明一点,左也非常危险，非常有攻击性，也不是什么好东西。
这位老爷子在网上呀呀这些干啥？
去报给 GOP 国会议员，这么多律师可以起诉的！去报给 FBI 啊，展开调查 grand jury indict 啊。
俺也可以在网上呀呀几十页老川的叛国罪逃税罪猥琐罪，不就是嘴炮放了个屁！
共和党建制派 is moderate and acceptable, isn't it?
川普明显的崇拜独裁者，崇拜终身领袖，川普是要把美国往独裁的方向领，big NO，拜登没有多好，可是美国就是一头猪当总统都行，就是不能要独裁者
在美国，烙印都是各行精英去从政 华人积极从政的很多都是老鼠
支持你去审喽
不在位先不说， 台上还有一个叫George satos 的大骗子， 啥时候狗屁党先搞个清理门户啊？
对的。
动摇民主是美国人的底线，两党再如何明争暗斗，一动摇民主根基两党就团结了。1/6 日那晚全体国会议员通宵选择留下完成数票交接，其实就是美国民主根基的力量。
前面有网友说民主党前面捅共和党后面捅老川，也是因为老川动了美国民主根基。各党派只要尊重民主根基，美国根本不可能有内战。
未来是不好预测，不过这次民主党的这步棋我觉着也不怎么高明，好多人说是故意让川普在共和党内胜出，可是这也是一步险棋，川普在共和党内胜出后，顶着反迫害斗士归来的光环，而且曝光率这么高，民主党怎么就这么有信心在大选把他击败呢😂
说的一针见血
说的很有道理，但这个道理不适用懂王，想想懂王破产了多少次，照样吃香喝辣，还能当选，到底是美国人民崇尚破产，还是美国人民实在没得选择，只能捏住鼻子选一个
这是大部分人当时的读解。至少是媒体让你相信的大部分人的读解。 但现实并没有这么明确。当时冲击国会的人感受是他们在拯救和保卫美国，前提是他们坚信川普大选票数被做了手脚。女律师出来承认傻子才会相信她之前说的票数作假完全不能改变这些人的看法，反而可能更坚定他们的结论。这就好像在中国，某人指正常委强奸，被法院传唤之后说自己其实是说说而已没有证据。然后各大媒体以取笑的口吻360度全方位播放那尴尬的一幕。你想想那个效果。 信不信川普、1/6是企图独裁还是保卫民主，完全取决于你在他之前对整个美国社会结构方方面面的满意程度。假如奥巴马期间不幸破产、失业、家人重病。。。。同时又坚信god的爱，恰好遇到川普，就更可能因为内心悲愤成为反政府粉丝，参加川派革命。 川普无权无势之后，现在被芝麻大的事件定罪。基本上等同于跟他的支持者说：你们是对的，现有秩序已经腐朽，官官相护。民主政治三权分立已经名存实亡
川普普京习近平都是一类人，长期独断专行，年纪越老越听不进去不同的意见，周围围着一圈yes man导致对世界的认知完全脱节。川普脑子一抽抽把粉丝拉到DC去打砸抢烧杀，现在就等着蹲大牢了。普京脑子一抽抽打了乌克兰被陷在里面，整不好啥时候要去海牙，现在就看另一个了。。。
说得好像gop执政期间没人不幸破产失业重病一样
当年lock her up喊得那么起劲 现在被正式起诉了就不说lock him up了 扯什么制度腐朽只能说是妥妥的双标
我基本可以确定这次川普被定罪，同情1/6号的人会增加。他们会觉得1/6号stupid，但是会一定程度理解同情。
另外，刚愎自用的是Biden，为了家族利益大把的钱往乌克兰撒
2020年初不是很多人对突击逮捕Obama和cia头都叫好么？
有。所以这部分支持民主党啊。我就喜欢奥巴马，因为他期间我找到第一份工作
川建国和拜振华这两任总统后，竟然让我觉得奥巴马真的很不错，至少美国社会是长治久安的感觉
嗯，不过看起来美国人不deserve这么好的总统。。。下一个奥巴马在哪里看不出来
为啥觉得川普上台后开始乱，不觉得Joe Biden的BLM 故意在惹事吗？不觉得是奥马的黑天使们故意打砸抢，然后不了了之吗？没有他们的支持，黑天使们为啥要上街去闹事？就是给你的感觉是你看川普在台上多乱。看看实际上是为什么。
我就知道他印了三次大钱
都是刁民想害朕？
他要是不印那些大钱，大银行崩溃，挤兑，咱们现在可能还在经济危机中没出来呢
所以他同时让Warren主导搞了很多对银行的监管，杜绝类似事件再次发生，然后川普就把那些监管给撤了，结果今年，你也看到了
奥巴马印了三次大钱，总量是多少啊？我一直挺想知道的，那时候年纪轻没太关心国家大事。
愿意选罪犯的decent的美国人还是很少的。轮子愿意选罪犯很正常。
按轮子们的心态变化， 要不把李大师请下去， 让老郭喝川普坐上去， 然后按追杀老江的规格咬白舅舅20 年？
银行这次的锅和监管没关系
政治素人
Jon Cooper @joncoopertweets
BREAKING: Trump just posted a picture of the Manhattan judge's DAUGHTER on Truth Social.
He knows what he's doing.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric Trump, and Donald Trump Jr. have all posted photos of the judge’s daughter on social media. My God.
粉丝说喜欢，就喜欢这种真小人
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-holds-press-conference-following-trump-arraignment
法官 press conference 快开始了
底线还是要有，黑社会都不威胁别人的家人的， 不威胁警察和法官的家人的。
这也是他和睡王打擂时做的，当时也是各种攻击睡王儿子的，还有那一水的独轮轮各种造谣，制作假视频，这一摊应该是由班农和小柜子负责，还有那个朱市长，现在又来这一招，不过小柜子已经进去了，班农不知能否继续
那是因为他女儿是拜登和Kamala的campaign worker啊，理应回避。
gop就是喜欢这种无下限的真小人
等等看有没有哪位川粉死士去把这个法官的女儿一枪爆头，再给GQP的棺材上面加根钉子。不过恐怕很难，这届川粉都是些光说不练的主，川普去纽约路上总共就稀稀拉拉几个打着旗给川普打气的
这也太low了吧，这是黑社会吗
底线是个相对的东西。 比如巴勒斯坦对以色列。巴勒斯坦整个政府都被定性为恐怖组织，它也确实自杀炸弹，但一样有人同情巴勒斯坦。一方被认为十分弱小，除了使用下三路没有别的办法的时候，是会被同情跟理解的。 你举的例子是强势的警察跟黑帮，跟当下trump的位置完全相反。不管主观客观，trump成功的让很多人认可了他目前的弱势。他就是当庭把法官衣服拔了，一样有人同情他
懂王在纽约没什么市场 在深红州气场就不一样了
我们在 Enjoy the Show， 看谁上蹿下跳得欢
press conference 开始了。
粉丝们谦虚一点，去学习一下吧。
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-holds-press-conference-following-trump-arraignment
1/6冲击国会也是川普怂恿死忠干的，闹出了好几条人命呢。 川总眼里，粉丝就是这样用的。