刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
2022, the employment rate for men in the United States stood at 65.5 percent. This was an increase from the previous year, when 63.9 percent of men in the U.S. were employed. The employment rate of men has yet to return to pre-pandemic levels.
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
美国labor force participation rate整体只有百分之六十出头。按性别细分,男性接近70%,女性略低于60%
回复 2楼chikorita的帖子 这个数据是对的,搜了一下 The share of stay-at-home parents in the United States has fluctuated in recent decades. In 1967, 49 percent of mothers were stay-at-home mothers. That proportion steadily dropped through the decades until 1999, when only 23 percent of moms stayed at home. Since 1999, the percentage of mothers who stayed at home began to increase again, rising by 6 points to 29 percent in 2012
全体女性包括未成年吧。已育中年女性差不多四分之三都工作。 Bls 的数据: The labor force participation rate for women with children under 18 years of age was 72.4 percent in March 2019, lower than the rate of 93.5 percent for men with children under 18 years. Among mothers, the labor force participation rate for those with children 6 to 17 years old, at 77.0 percent, was considerably higher than for those with younger children. The rate for women with children under 6 years old was 66.4 percent, and the rate for women with children under 3 years old was 63.8 percent.
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
U.S. rate of employed men 1990-2022 In 2022, the employment rate for men in the United States stood at 65.5 percent. This was an increase from the previous year, when 63.9 percent of men in the U.S. were employed. The employment rate of men has yet to return to pre-pandemic levels.Feb 3, 2023 男人也有1/3多没工作啊。 又不是没工作的都是主妇。
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
也还好吧,如果你看employment rate of men,2022年男性也只有65%在上班啊。
四个兴趣,其中一个每周训练四天。别的基本都集中在周末。周中有四天需要晚上接送。晚餐一半外食一半自己做。8:30-5:00上班,6-8接送或监督练习(娃训练时自己健身),8-9督促作业。9:30娃睡以后刷剧灌水。偶尔加班。周末除了课外班就是带娃看电影play date 或者hiking 。知道别的工作妈妈,周末还要开车带娃去外地比赛,同时担任team mom.
刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。 foxxpo 发表于 2023-03-22 14:16
四个兴趣,其中一个每周训练四天。别的基本都集中在周末。周中有四天需要晚上接送。晚餐一半外食一半自己做。8:30-5:00上班,6-8接送或监督练习(娃训练时自己健身),8-9督促作业。9:30娃睡以后刷剧灌水。偶尔加班。周末除了课外班就是带娃看电影play date 或者hiking 。知道别的工作妈妈,周末还要开车带娃去外地比赛,同时担任team mom.
我觉得确实是圈子问题。我认识的为数不多几个贵妇,自己倒腾点生意是有的,但绝对不会说出“我是个程序员”“我是个会计”这种话。人家就是不用工作啊,也没必要把自己干的事情限定在某个领域。 但是我们working class,大部分家庭就是手停口停,夫妻俩都得干点小活,而且最经济有效的就是干自己的专业。我们区一二代移民是多数,互相问“what do you do”特别正常,不少同行还能聊聊工作。有些人因为照顾娃,暂时不工作,也挺正常的,男女都有。但是都会说“I'm a XX”,并且是带着有机会还是会回去labor market那种心态/语气的。 我要是有女儿,鉴于我就是个working class的水平,能把她送到另一个class的希望并不大,我还是会建议她不要不工作。她真的有本事当成Kate Middleton,也不太可能去工作,那我也管不到了,毕竟离她父母的世界有点太远了。
我听了就觉得,这几个儿子,长大了应该不会接受老婆不上班。
三娃妈之前有个暑假在我们这里的一个舞蹈学校做part time的前台,刚好她女儿在那边上课。有一天她女儿来找我家孩子玩,我开的门,她突然对我说,我妈妈现在开始上班了。我当时觉得是有点突兀。如今联想起来,真不知道孩子们都是怎么想的。
我没有观点,就是如实记录几段对话。中文水平退化了,说个事儿都说不明白了,额。
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太同意了,最烦不上班拿家庭来说事的,好像上班的人就不管家庭一样不管孩子一样,不上班也是为了自己,不要绑架是为了孩子为了家庭。
同意,在家的也不用说为了家庭牺牲,有的是为了家庭牺牲有的是找不到工作,老外有的妈妈在家但是homeschool的,那更累啊,我挺佩服在家做homeschool的主妇,老美这样的还不少,华人很少,华人有的是不差钱不用工作,有的是找不到工作,很少有在家homeschool的
男的是63.9% . 女的54.7%.所以男女差别也没那么明显。
2022, the employment rate for men in the United States stood at 65.5 percent. This was an increase from the previous year, when 63.9 percent of men in the U.S. were employed. The employment rate of men has yet to return to pre-pandemic levels.
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刚搜了一下 According to a report by Statista, in 2022, the employment rate of women in the United States was 54.7%. This means that 45.3% of women were not employed. However, it is important to note that this data includes women who may be unable to work due to various reasons such as disability or retirement and not just those who choose not to work. 45%女性没有工作,这真的超过我的想象。
后来她就去上班了,一直到现在挺开心的。。。怎么说呢,孩子的需求和想法很多,做妈妈的不可能随时都满足,随时让他们满意,也没那个必要,你见哪个当爸爸的提心吊胆的想着满足孩子的?过好自己的人生,自己活得开心精彩了,其他一切都会好的。做主妇也好,如果那就是能让自己开心得生活,那就去做,不要想着这是为了孩子牺牲,一切都是为自己做的。
这个数据包括了18岁以下的65岁以上的人吗?要是这样的话,我觉得家庭主妇比我想的还少呢,而且还包括了工作但是不报税的,现在暂时不工作但是孩子大点会去工作的
美国labor force participation rate整体只有百分之六十出头。按性别细分,男性接近70%,女性略低于60%
exactly,上班是为自己上的,不上班也是为了自己,不要绑架是为了孩子为了家庭。
45%包括了退休的人啊 女性活到80 90的很多,大部分人60多就退休了
哎,我也是啊,在沙发上一摊,一边追剧一边刷手机,躺得头晕眼花腰酸背疼。
不想上班的才要想办法怎么可以舒服的在家当主妇。
看看别人的数据点,自己掂量掂量自己有没有这个本事和运气。
现在的孩子,2010年后出生的,以后养活自己都好的,没有几个接受养活别人的观念。
所以隔壁那个楼问哪个当妈妈得能够prioritize自己,那是必须得啊,不是每个moment都把自己得需求放在第一位,但是overall,做父母得应该要把自己得需求放在首位,让孩子融入自己的生活,孩子长大也同样会prioritize自己的需求。。。一个full filled的人才有可能发自内心的快乐,一个快乐的人才可能带给别人爱和快乐。
工作还有个意义就是让你生活有另外一个寄托。当然前提是你喜欢你的工作。 像我们这种中年夫妻,成天吵架两看相厌的。我每天可以上班打发时间。不用求关注不用胡思乱想。上班拿到的工资还可以增加我的安全感。生活反倒是过得容易多了。 不用围着男人转。婚姻/爱情只是我生活里面占据的很小一部分而已。
才小学生,说话就是stating the fact, LZ联想多了。
是的呢。我认识一个台湾主妇,人家真的把家里打理得一尘不染,非常cozy,而且做一手好菜。我不禁感叹,我要是男的,也能接受这样的主妇,接受不了我这样的。 我得天天穿得漂漂亮亮上班,即使累些,挣点钱,也有点价值。
对的,小孩子总是比较容易羡慕别人家,不一定都要满足。 我娃羡慕别人家妈妈不用上班,每天都在家。我wfh在家,我娃有一次看到我早晨在家悠闲的擦植物的叶子,很开心的说:妈妈,你好像不工作的的妈妈啊。她们就喜欢一放学立刻回家看到妈妈,妈妈有时间陪她们磨叽各种事情。我在想,如果她们小时候我不上班陪着,现在会不会又反过来。
现在国内二胎后,主妇也挺多的了。。。
这个数据是对的,搜了一下
The share of stay-at-home parents in the United States has fluctuated in recent decades. In 1967, 49 percent of mothers were stay-at-home mothers. That proportion steadily dropped through the decades until 1999, when only 23 percent of moms stayed at home. Since 1999, the percentage of mothers who stayed at home began to increase again, rising by 6 points to 29 percent in 2012
同意,如果孩子的话那么管用,他们肯定希望每天可以无限制看电脑玩游戏😄,而不是去管妈妈工作不工作
真是这样,要孩子也是我自己想养的,不是因为老人催或者我想给老公留个后(后一种说法真是很恶心)。上班也是我想上,读书也是我想读,做副业赚钱也是因为我乐在其中,以后不上班了呆家里也是我想休息。反正我做过的选择都是自己想要的,也绝对不会像某些人一样道德绑架家人说都是因为你我才牺牲了blah blah blah
我身边老婆不工作的 孩子们都是私立 即使只有一份收入 家里也比较殷实 也不是豪门级别 豪门太太没有工作的吧 不过家里殷实的 老婆工作的也很多
没办法,家里蹲都是家传的,不信你去问问家里蹲们,大概率他们长辈就是家里蹲。同样,家里蹲的家风也向下传,女儿接着家里蹲,儿子挣点钱回家就当甩手掌柜。有个词就叫耳濡目染,从小家里环境就是这样,长大了还是这个样子。不是有人说娶老婆前先看看老婆的妈啥样吗?说的就是这个道理。
我娃班里同学还真没有几个妈妈是全职主妇的。去学校volunteer 小朋友提的问题里面就有“你是做什么工作的”。听我娃说,一个家庭主妇妈妈回答这个问题的时候说,我现在没有工作,两年前我在xxx工作,我希望将来能做xxx工作。
我们这里是中西部白人90%的区。很多孩子的妈妈是大学教授,医生,中学老师,白领,年龄在30-50岁。说美国人女的很多不工作的,不知道说的是哪里,哪个年代的事
你这私校才是小样本吧。大公校和大公司的样本更大一些。小孩小有gap 的家庭多,完全不工作而且也不打算工作的很少。土豪家老婆也不是光享受的。认识的一个老钱家女主人,学艺术的,负责艺术品买卖,家里布置的像博物馆,每年赚的钱比码公多。这种就不是传统意义上的家庭主妇
私校有些妈妈是打拼完了才生孩子,退休了而已
Bls 的数据: The labor force participation rate for women with children under 18 years of age was 72.4 percent in March 2019, lower than the rate of 93.5 percent for men with children under 18 years. Among mothers, the labor force participation rate for those with children 6 to 17 years old, at 77.0 percent, was considerably higher than for those with younger children. The rate for women with children under 6 years old was 66.4 percent, and the rate for women with children under 3 years old was 63.8 percent.
这阅读理解能力不太行啊
其实大家都心知肚明,不差钱的大部分不会上班,除非是医生律师教授这种职业,或者自己开个美容院/gym。
和我知道的一模一样,这是人性。
私校即世界?除非是top 3% 或者干脆蹲家吃救济的。一般中产现在这个年代还不是双收入比单收入生活好很多。做妈妈的也更有个人价值。
我觉得你的中文阅读理解下降了,没看到我后面那段话。这就是个伪命题,就像央视记者在春运火车上问:大家都买到火车票了吧? 家庭妇女职业妇女互相尊重就好,没必要互相伤害呀。
话说 瑞行抹掉所有存款 没有人关心吗 哈哈
其实男的工作的比例也没有你想象中的高。不信你搜一下。必须说,美国人不工作的比例,真的超乎我的想象。
这说的太绝对了。我没钱,娘家也没钱,不上班随便花钱也不用看人脸色。夫妻间也不只是金钱关系吧。
你查一下男的有多少employed, 也会吃惊的
你看仔细点,这里面算了退休的和残疾人,Statista有男性的数据,35%的男人也没有工作。
确实是有钱人家老婆确实大多不工作,家里都有保姆。出去赚十万八万的还不如把老公伺候好了多拿点零花钱呢。不过你再打听,十个有八个都签了prenup,有钱人家狗血之多也不是一般人家比的了的。
有钱人家换老婆也比较频繁,年纪大了就换个年轻貌美的,反正有的是姑娘愿意
嫁有钱人多半也是碗青春饭
最怕那种光交女朋友不结婚的黄金单身汉,鸡贼,搞得定的都是厉害角色
你以为在中国 搞笑吧 就是在大纽约 一老头拉一个可以做女儿的姑娘 开一辆名贵车 也是被人看不起的
反正只要盯着有钱人家看,任何时候都看到的是漂漂家庭主妇在享受生活,至于是第几个就不一定了。不过离了婚分一小笔还是比普通人家日子过得好。
U.S. rate of employed men 1990-2022 In 2022, the employment rate for men in the United States stood at 65.5 percent. This was an increase from the previous year, when 63.9 percent of men in the U.S. were employed. The employment rate of men has yet to return to pre-pandemic levels.Feb 3, 2023
男人也有1/3多没工作啊。 又不是没工作的都是主妇。
你在你yy的美国吧。trump老婆在那呢。你也可以说美国人选了个他们都看不起的总统。
我也搜了一下,说是2022年2月,女性是56.3%, 男性是62.4%。这个统计包括所有16岁以上的。细分一下,25-54 是prime age, 女性就业比例73.2,男性87.2。其实工作比例男女都蛮高的
也还好吧,如果你看employment rate of men,2022年男性也只有65%在上班啊。
安全感要靠别人给本身就挺没安全感的。
这个帖子居然会被点赞这么多?“上班随便多赚1-2万,各种家务足够外包了,各种课外辅导也可以外包。”????
不生娃不就完了,还大方向引导。纯给自己找事
美国 2023 二月的统计 女性 55%就业 男性 65%就业 整体 60%工作 也就是说男女工作的比例大概是10:8.5
这个比例比中国还高 中国, 男性67.4%, 女性51%。 比例大概是 10 :7.5
但是我也认识一些做20年主妇被离婚的老美。 那时候双方都是50上下的年纪。 男方一般都找到年轻挣钱的老婆。 被离婚的主妇经济条件会跌落很多。
大人之间谈话会有所保留。正常人,尤其是职业女性,不会直接问别的妈妈是不是工作。小孩子才是心里想到什么就问什么,而且没有恶意。尤其是小学的孩子。
我们这里上学期每周都有一个家长去学校领着孩子读书,孩子们会问一些问题作为开场。“你在哪里工作”和“你在那里做什么” 是我拿到的前两个问题。其他的问题还有“你最喜欢做什么”和“你最喜欢去哪里旅游”。我问我娃别的爸妈拿到什么问题,我娃说班里孩子投票决定的问题,每个家长都是一样的。而去参加读书活动的大多是妈妈。我的推测,首先,大多数孩子的妈妈都工作,所以孩子才对别人的妈妈做什么工作感兴趣。就我娃说的,参加活动的近20个家长里面,只有一个台湾妈妈没有工作,她的答复我前面帖子里有,她有回到职场的打算。
这是中西部城市90%白人区公立小学的一个班。你可以说是小样本。但是并不是没有统计学意义。
四个兴趣,其中一个每周训练四天。别的基本都集中在周末。周中有四天需要晚上接送。晚餐一半外食一半自己做。8:30-5:00上班,6-8接送或监督练习(娃训练时自己健身),8-9督促作业。9:30娃睡以后刷剧灌水。偶尔加班。周末除了课外班就是带娃看电影play date 或者hiking 。知道别的工作妈妈,周末还要开车带娃去外地比赛,同时担任team mom.
年轻挣钱的女人为啥要找离婚男
Men’s employment rate is 65.5%, 也没高到哪去啊。
不像这届国人,特别是出来了的华人女性,要不是有家底就是从小家里推出来努力读书上来的。上班赚的还是比较可观的。不少美国女的也没读多少书,出去上班也就是个温饱线的工资,一个月三四千的还没daycare高。家里生一俩娃就肯定上不了班了。
同上,不少全职妈就是这样过来的。拼几年娃大了就好了。运气好的事业上去了米多了不也方便了吗。
说的好像上了班就能指引大方向了似的,还真看得起自己
真是自立的典范啊。家庭是一体的,家庭成员之间有排序。谁被排在了前面要知道感恩。
那是你小孩
我没空去女儿班上读书,她们班上去读书的家长都是不上班的,所以我不觉得这些孩子会问去读书的妈妈们是做什么工作的。也有上班的妈妈(比如印度妈妈是牙医)去学校讲怎么保护牙齿顺便打广告的,但是根据我女儿给我讲的,我发现孩子们并没觉得牙医妈妈就比家庭主妇去读书而高大上。
我女儿读这个学校之前,我觉得大部分美国女人都上班,因为我自己也上班,所以天真的以为美国变穷了,现在养不起家庭主妇了。后来搬到这个社区(本地公立top1的学区但是一半邻居送私立),再送女儿去了这个私立,才发现确实很多妈妈都不上班,上班的大部分是外国移民做教授医生律师之类的,我甚至觉得有些爸爸都不上班。社区里好几对年轻couple生了3-4个孩子,大白天两口子一起开着golf车在小区里转悠。 所以不同的环境,造就不同的样本。
我一直受的教育是家庭主妇在家里没地位,啥都要看人脸色,有钱人的家庭主妇容易被离婚。但自从我女儿上了这学校,我也没觉得这些家庭主妇有多危险了,我女儿读了好几年了也没听说谁离婚了。我在美国的两个表弟找的老婆都是在家当家庭主妇并且掌握家庭财政大权,两个表弟任劳任怨,其中一个表弟媳生了一个女儿后明确说不再生了,另一个结婚5-6年还没生孩子。
我老公想让我做家庭主妇,觉得我带回家的paycheck约等于无,但是我的职业不能有GAP所以我一直辛苦搬砖。最近女儿对我的需求越来越多,我思考自己做的垃圾research对人类进步其实没有任何贡献,反而因为忙导致很多家庭事务没法参与,感觉有点得不偿失。现在我觉得美国家庭主妇多也是有道理的,大部分上班哪里是为了事业,不就为了三瓜两枣,如果经济不是特别紧张,当家庭主妇注重家庭生活也没啥不好。
一般是请人接送,还有就是把兴趣班安排在周末和下班以后,孩子放学到下班那段时间,一般放after school. 家务和做饭,有没有孩子都要做,两个人都上班的,多数两个人分担,而且多数女的十几万以上年薪的,打扫卫生、yard work 都外巴
你自己也说了,你的paycheck 在家庭的供献约等于无,可是还是有很多女性,paycheck对家庭的贡献在40%以上,甚至更多,那就不是只多挣个三瓜俩枣了,而是对家庭finance有substantial impact了
接送可以carpool 或者请人。而且娃的事也不全是妈妈的事吧,爸爸接送也很多的,不管另一半上不上班。
我觉得确实是圈子问题。我认识的为数不多几个贵妇,自己倒腾点生意是有的,但绝对不会说出“我是个程序员”“我是个会计”这种话。人家就是不用工作啊,也没必要把自己干的事情限定在某个领域。 但是我们working class,大部分家庭就是手停口停,夫妻俩都得干点小活,而且最经济有效的就是干自己的专业。我们区一二代移民是多数,互相问“what do you do”特别正常,不少同行还能聊聊工作。有些人因为照顾娃,暂时不工作,也挺正常的,男女都有。但是都会说“I'm a XX”,并且是带着有机会还是会回去labor market那种心态/语气的。 我要是有女儿,鉴于我就是个working class的水平,能把她送到另一个class的希望并不大,我还是会建议她不要不工作。她真的有本事当成Kate Middleton,也不太可能去工作,那我也管不到了,毕竟离她父母的世界有点太远了。