https://www.npr.org/2017/07/12/536729440/could-donald-trump-jr-be-charged-with-treason-short-answer-no But Painter acknowledges that the crime of treason is rarely charged in the United States for a variety of reasons, including the fact that the Constitution requires either a declaration of war or some attempt to overthrow the government by violence. But, as he observed in an interview with NPR, "we just use other statutes because most of what is treason would have violated another statute anyway." During the Cold War, for instance, when Americans gave secrets to the Soviet Union, the charge used to prosecute accused spies, including Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, was espionage. Most were sentenced to prison; the Rosenbergs were executed. Today, other, less dire laws are in play. Painter and others, for instance, maintain there is the possibility that Trump Jr. violated campaign laws by seeking to acquire something of value — namely, opposition research to use against Clinton — from a foreigner. U.S. campaign finance laws explicitly bar obtaining money or other things of value from foreigners.
Here’s What Will Happen If Trump Is Arrested (Yes, He''ll Probably Get A Mugshot) Alison Durkee Forbes Staff KEY FACTS When Will Trump Be Indicted? That’s still unclear—the Manhattan grand jury hearing the case still has at least one more witness to hear from on Monday, and while they could vote on charges as soon as Monday, it could also come later depending on how things go. What Will Trump Be Arrested For? It’s expected that any charges against Trump will be for falsifying business records tied to the hush money payments to Daniels—as he allegedly reimbursed ex-attorney Michael Cohen for paying Daniels through the Trump Organization, labeling the charges as “legal fees”—which can be a felony in New York if they were falsified to cover up a crime and could carry a prison sentence of up to four years. What Happens After The Grand Jury Votes? If the grand jury votes to indict Trump, the indictment will be filed under seal, so it won’t be made public until Trump’s arraignment in court unless the Manhattan district attorney makes it available earlier. Will Trump Surrender? Trump’s lawyers are expected to negotiate with prosecutors a date and time for Trump to turn himself in to the authorities after he’s indicted, and Trump’s attorney has suggested the ex-president would voluntarily surrender himself to the authorities. What Happens If He Doesn’t? If Trump doesn’t voluntarily surrender and is still at his home in Florida at Mar-A-Lago, he would have to be extradited, which would either be approved by a judge or Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), Trump’s main rival for the 2024 presidential nomination. Could DeSantis Block Trump From Being Arrested? Experts cited by Insider note that while DeSantis could possibly delay Trump’s extradition, his approval is really an administrative formality, and he wouldn’t be able to totally stop the ex-president from being charged. What Happens Once Trump’s Taken Into Custody? Trump would likely be booked at the Manhattan DA’s office, where he’ll have his fingerprints and mugshot taken and have his DNA and other information taken before he’s formally arraigned and appears in court to plead guilty or not guilty. Will That Definitely Happen? Not necessarily—Trump advisors have discussed the possibility of negotiating with prosecutors to have Trump appear virtually for his arraignment from Mar-A-Lago, the Guardian reports, though the former president has reportedly expressed interest in appearing in person. Will Trump Be Handcuffed? It’s not likely Trump will do the traditional “perp walk” before he’s arraigned in handcuffs, experts cited by Insider speculated, given the optics of handcuffing a former president—which could play into Trump’s claims that Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is politically biased against him—and potential security concerns. Will Trump Be Held In Custody? Trump is almost certain to be immediately released once he’s arraigned, particularly under new bail rules in New York that allow people who are indicted on misdemeanor charges or non-violent felonies to be released on their own recognizance without bail unless they’re deemed to be a flight risk. When Could Trump Be Convicted? Manhattan criminal cases typically take more than a year to go to trial, experts cited by Reuters note, so Trump’s trial likely wouldn’t be for a while—possibly until the 2024 election season is well underway, or even after the election takes place, which Reuters notes would be uncharted legal territory if Trump were tried on state charges as president or president-elect. Will The Indictment Affect Trump’s 2024 Run? Being indicted or even convicted wouldn’t stop Trump from becoming president on its own, as legal experts have noted there are no restrictions in the Constitution that bar people from becoming president if they’ve been indicted—though if Trump becomes a convicted felon, he could face restrictions on being able to vote for himself. WHAT TO WATCH FOR While it’s still unclear what day Trump will actually be indicted—if he is—the ex-president has said on social media without evidence that he’ll be arrested on Tuesday and called for protests. Law enforcement agencies have reportedly already been preparing for protests in the event of Trump’s arrest as soon as this week, and it’s possible protests could still move forward on Tuesday even if Trump isn’t arrested given his call for them to take place, though some organizers of the January 6 riots have said they plan to stand down this time around. The grand jury meets on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, Insider notes, so if the grand jury doesn’t decide on charges on Monday, it wouldn’t meet again until Wednesday to decide on them, and prosecutors would still have to negotiate with Trump’s legal team about his surrender to the authorities, making a Tuesday arrest unlikely. The grand jury is expected to hear from attorney Robert Costello on Monday, a former attorney for Trump ally Rudy Giuliani who’s expected to give testimony that’s favorable to Trump and rebuts claims from Cohen about the hush money payments. Cohen, who has already been convicted for his role in making the $130,000 in payments to Daniels, may then be given an opportunity to respond to Costello’s comments before the grand jury, further delaying any potential indictment. WHAT WE DON’T KNOW Trump would be the first former president in U.S. history to be criminally charged, so there’s still a lot of uncertainty about how the process will play out and how any charges against him could be handled differently from typical criminal prosecutions. It also remains to be seen whether the Manhattan charges will be just the first in a series of charges Trump will face, as the former president also remains under investigation in Georgia for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and by the Justice Department in two investigations related to the 2020 election and him bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago. KEY BACKGROUND The Manhattan DA’s office has been investigating Trump and the Trump Organization’s finances since 2019. The investigation was initially focused on the hush money payments to Daniels, which were made ahead of Trump’s 2016 election to cover up her alleged affair with the then-candidate, but prosecutors later put that to the side and pursued a broader inquiry into the Trump Organization’s finances. That led to the company and former CFO Allen Weisselberg being indicted and ultimately found guilty of criminal tax fraud. No criminal charges were brought against Trump directly for those crimes, however, and while prosecutors initially appeared to shelve their criminal case against the ex-president, the New York Times reported in November that DA Bragg had revived the investigation into Trump and was now focused again on the Daniels payments, which Trump allegedly reimbursed Cohen for after he was already in the White House.
🚨#BREAKING: Steel barricades are being unloaded outside Manhattan criminal courthouse ⁰📌#Manhattan | #Newyork
Numerous Metal Barricades Arrive Outside The Manhattan Criminal Courthouse In New York City, Ahead Of A Possible Indictment Of Former President Trump This Week. With… https://t.co/3dUhhn1gsgpic.twitter.com/a2m2i5mIpk — R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) March 20, 2023
WATCH: DeSantis says he will not get involved in "manufactured circus" from "Soros DA" in reference to Trump indictment rumors
"He's trying to do a political spectacle [...] I can't spend my time worrying about things of that nature, so we're not gonna be involved in it anyway." pic.twitter.com/5KdTiFH70m — Florida’s Voice (@FLVoiceNews) March 20, 2023
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC Oh shit. Ron DeSantis just finally spoke out on the potential Trump indictment: “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that.” Get your popcorn ready.
🚨#BREAKING: Steel barricades are being unloaded outside Manhattan criminal courthouse ⁰📌#Manhattan | #Newyork
Numerous Metal Barricades Arrive Outside The Manhattan Criminal Courthouse In New York City, Ahead Of A Possible Indictment Of Former President Trump This Week. With… https://t.co/3dUhhn1gsgpic.twitter.com/a2m2i5mIpk — R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) March 20, 2023
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC Oh shit. Ron DeSantis just finally spoke out on the potential Trump indictment: “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that.” Get your popcorn ready. lhu2006 发表于 2023-03-20 14:42
🚨#BREAKING: Steel barricades are being unloaded outside Manhattan criminal courthouse ⁰📌#Manhattan | #Newyork
Numerous Metal Barricades Arrive Outside The Manhattan Criminal Courthouse In New York City, Ahead Of A Possible Indictment Of Former President Trump This Week. With… https://t.co/3dUhhn1gsgpic.twitter.com/a2m2i5mIpk — R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) March 20, 2023
WATCH: DeSantis says he will not get involved in "manufactured circus" from "Soros DA" in reference to Trump indictment rumors
"He's trying to do a political spectacle [...] I can't spend my time worrying about things of that nature, so we're not gonna be involved in it anyway." pic.twitter.com/5KdTiFH70m — Florida’s Voice (@FLVoiceNews) March 20, 2023
lhu2006 发表于 2023-03-20 14:29
佛州州长明明表态了，他说这是Soros DA 的political prosecution，是在摧毁民主。还要他怎么表态？
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC Oh shit. Ron DeSantis just finally spoke out on the potential Trump indictment: “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that.” Get your popcorn ready. lhu2006 发表于 2023-03-20 14:42
川普反击了： Desantis 涉嫌娈童！ 哈哈 Trump Suggests DeSantis Will Face Allegations From ‘Underage’ Girls ‘Or Possibly A Man!’ After Speaking Out On Manhattan Probe
川普反击了： Desantis 涉嫌娈童！ 哈哈 Trump Suggests DeSantis Will Face Allegations From ‘Underage’ Girls ‘Or Possibly A Man!’ After Speaking Out On Manhattan Probe lhu2006 发表于 2023-03-20 15:56
纽约所有警察，包括便衣侦探，从明天早上7点开始全部穿全套警察制服上岗，因应川普可能被起诉。 Nicole Sganga @NicoleSganga All NYPD officers — including plainclothes detectives — have been ordered to wear their full uniform tomorrow beginning at 7am ahead of a possible indictment of former President Donald Trump, a police source tells @CBSNews @PatMilton14.
中国古人还是有智慧的，在古代党就不是一个好词，党争是一个朝代气数将尽的典型症状，还是美国太年轻
川粉大嘴一张变成最干净的总统了
大家快来看 说黄右川粉又蠢又坏不是空穴来风吧
现在的党争和明末东林党宦党的党争何其相似。 互相扯后腿，有利的政策推行不下去，行政效率底下。 两党制已经玩不下去了，川普只是加速了这个崩坏的过程。
贪婪害了他。不过如果不贪婪他可能也发不了这些财。
2016年就有很多他做生意不给小生意人付账的烂事儿给挖出来。
这都算最干净的美国总统？
我不知道版上那些互骂的 有啥精神气儿和底气 先管好自己的眼前的比较好 大的事情，真的插不上手
确实…… 意识形态是一个阵地，里面是战争和利益，不是讲理的地方。我笨，多年之后才意识到这类隐形的landscape.
听上去好像说的是川普电话门时施压泽连司机搞拜登。
比起民主党的那些烂事 小巫见大巫
https://www.npr.org/2017/07/12/536729440/could-donald-trump-jr-be-charged-with-treason-short-answer-no
But Painter acknowledges that the crime of treason is rarely charged in the United States for a variety of reasons, including the fact that the Constitution requires either a declaration of war or some attempt to overthrow the government by violence. But, as he observed in an interview with NPR, "we just use other statutes because most of what is treason would have violated another statute anyway."
During the Cold War, for instance, when Americans gave secrets to the Soviet Union, the charge used to prosecute accused spies, including Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, was espionage. Most were sentenced to prison; the Rosenbergs were executed.
Today, other, less dire laws are in play. Painter and others, for instance, maintain there is the possibility that Trump Jr. violated campaign laws by seeking to acquire something of value — namely, opposition research to use against Clinton — from a foreigner. U.S. campaign finance laws explicitly bar obtaining money or other things of value from foreigners.
这些是炒作吗？ 真是笑死人了。
他就是最贪婪的资本家。白嫖还要别人倒找钱…
所以拜登儿子的笔记本，还有他儿子从乌克兰和中国拿的钱媒体是用显微镜也没看到是吗？媒体还有什么信誉可言吗？让闭嘴就集体闭嘴，让报道就集体报道。就差一个中宣部一样的组织同意管理了。
不光是美国，这些年世界各国都在走下坡路。。。恐怕最终会一场大战然后重新洗牌一切重来
真有大战美国铁定是输家，最好的结局就是成为澳洲那样偏安一隅的地区强国，差的话就是大号南非巴西永不翻身了。
我早就说了，他的专长是破产，5个平行宇宙，他让美国破产4次，可能maga成功一次。但老百姓不像富人，经不起国家破产
现在还有这么多黄皮川粉的鼎力支持 不知道是不是脑子被新冠病毒入侵了
等到逮捕那一刻，你使劲喷也无妨，耐心耐心!
美国宪法有规定罪犯不能竞选总统么？ 马一龙还说他2024年必定赢得大选呢。
就看Harris能不能否定大选结果，Biden要大家冲击国会，中断认证。反正没啥后果。
是的，全是屁股决定论。看着版上除了谩骂就是谩骂，实在是看的太痛苦了。 谁也说服不了谁，可能谁也没想说服对方。
没办法，狂热的支持一个政党的，绝大多数都是精神疾病，哈佛那个女教授的这个结论还是有一定道理的。而这种精神疾病，决定了不会有逻辑，不会有理性的辩论，只有攻击，攻击，再攻击对方。
felony连选举权都没有，有人会觉得正在坐牢的felony有被选举权吗？马应龙的胡说八道，早就没法信了
事情是他自己做下来的，大陪审团也不是民主党选出来的，政治迫害从何说起，要我说，是报应来得太晚
大家看到新闻了嘛？
老川一边承诺会老实被捕，一边背后秘密怂恿粉丝们示威暴动。
还是老川的底线低，人至贱无敌！
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/18/donald-trump-claims-he-arrested-tuesday-manhattan-probe/11498285002/
无知的人无畏
现在的新闻，最好左，中，右都看一遍，你就知道这些猫腻了。
无知的是你自己啊，或者，你觉得拿公家的钱去赌情妇的嘴是家常便饭？
应该不会有战争，不过不是你想的原因。而是川普不会挑动司机加入北约，会让他老实点，这样俄国也就不会入侵了。川普缺点很多，但的确不喜欢打仗。
如果川普连任，普京都不用动手，川普直接把乌克兰拱手送上，岂不更好？至于乌克兰生灵涂炭，谁关心？
一大把年纪了，形容人就会好人坏人LOL
前总统叛国，阴谋推翻选举结果，煽动叛乱。这个定成铁案，土鳖都要笑出猪叫了。
确实很悲哀。曾经的民主自由大国沦落到今天这样，真的很让人震惊，也很可悲
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萝莉岛，爱泼斯坦自杀 川普两次去审计五角大厦的阿富汗预算，第一次一个中将自杀了，第二次审查小组飞机失事了。 拜登的乌克兰门 压死佛洛依德的警官，你可以说他有种族歧视，本来是过失杀人的罪，最后公检法讲政治被定成了谋杀。
法律在深国权贵面前一文不值
之前吹嘘民主制度有修复功能。现在发现自己离进集中营比川普在任更近了。这就是修复。
美国法律没禁止坐牢的人参选总统。就像美国没有规定国语是英语一样。
twitter门的文件还挂着呢。很多大妈就对民主党的无法无天的行为都忘了。
现在已经超越了《竞选州长》
CDC也不是立法机构，居然敢这么发布规定，真正的无法无天了。 CDC 的头应该去坐牢
他在参加竞选前已经被调查一堆案子 就是参选才能拖到现在 他的策略就是拖延
你可以准备一下，需要笑出猪叫的日子不远了
LOL这是把海妖那一套再搬出来吗？
还是赶紧去学猪叫吧，不要到时候来不及
打蛇打7寸。这种对蛇尾巴敲一下的起诉，只会反被蛇咬。
付封口费不违法，现在就是说他用竞选的钱付封口费。这很难坐实。首先要证明这笔钱确实是通过竞选账户走账的，其次Trump一堆账户，Trump完全可以说我只是同意付封口费，走账的事是财务执行的，我本来是要走我私人的账户，是财务走错账了。要想给床铺定罪，必须有明确证据指认床铺给了明确指示从竞选账户走账。而且即使定罪，一个misdemeanor， 他的追随者也会认为是有人吹毛求疵，床铺不注意细节。。。等等为他开脱。
很难扯清楚的。这事只能给Trump 难堪，但对他政治杀伤力非常有限，弄不好民主党弄巧成拙。
他要推到财务身上，财务也得认错吧？而且，财务犯这么大的错，公司居然不处理？另外，这个不是misdemeanor，是felony的。 他的律师的另一个借口，是他当时的律师，那个Cohen，坚持要川普付钱给他，然后他再给Stormy，但是第一，律师只能建议，决定是当事人做的，第二，Cohen现在和检方合作，未必会和他口径一致
其实川普现在这种折腾，目的只有一个，影响将来真正做决定的潜在陪审团，只要有一两个同情他的陪审团不肯定罪，他就赢了
我也同意，在他现在被调查的诸多罪行中，这个是最不起眼的一个。如果真的像川粉所说，民主党密谋害他，应该是佐治亚那个第一个提控，可是民主党这边并没有控制任何检察官的能力，也没有所谓的密谋，只是这个检察官觉得证据充足，需要提起控诉。这恰恰证明了某人的“天下人都要害朕”的受害妄想狂本来就是子无须有
拜登儿子的事，FBI已经立案调查，目前没有公布过进展，有进展媒体自然会跟进。
财务认不认没用，只要没有证据说是床铺让他从竞选账户走账，他走账了，就是财务的问题。雇Accountant替报税做账，就是要承担这种责任的。
另外川普付钱给律师，再给风暴姐，这也没有违法，无非是遮羞。
我认为现在床铺是看到这个案子的问题，故意卖惨，很可能从中获利。床铺现在巴不得别人给他戴手铐押上法庭，然后电视转播呢。
川普只是现象，不是问题的源头
现象是美国的族裔问题已经累积到了必须解决的状态了，奥巴马作为第一个黑人总统，当然会让越来越多心怀不满的白人极端分子不能接受，他本人没有做错什么，他的肤色就是原罪。
作为华人，我们希望等到肤色就是原罪的时候才行动吗？还是，和种族主义的白人联手，让这一天来得更早？
你说的，川普自己心里肯定清楚，他很多擦边犯法的事情，都是靠钱摆平的，现在他在国家大事上一样的胡闹，这次不是拿钱就能摆平了，所以他拼死也要去做总统，就可以像那四年一样，让他的司法部长把官司都给拖没了
可叹这么一个为了一己私利不惜把整个国家都拖下水的家伙，还能霍霍出这么多愚蠢的追随者，当初美国的创建者们写宪法的时候一定没有想到
时代不同了，美国原来一直是精英治国，老川是搞民粹。老川能出线，一是拜托一般白人没有太多享受到全球化福利，二是互联网社交媒体的普及。所以老川可以把美国的精英们叫成沼泽地，deep state，主流媒体最后也没办法。就是不理解一群老中跟着老川呐喊啥，精英治国好歹还讲究利益脸面，民粹就是批斗抓替罪羊而且明显已经把中国当头号敌人了，华人长相的能有好日子过？
我也觉得是奥巴马加剧了种族冲突。什么 "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon Martin..."
只会干正事不是好事？
真有可能有不少protest votes
知道你自己在说什么吗？民主党不希望抓trump? 那是谁要抓他？ GOP里的RINO本来就是和猪党穿一条裤子的。别秀你自己的智商底线，好吗？
GOP里的RINO和民主党共同穿的一条裤子有个名字，民主。保住民主的底线，再大的分歧都可以通过民主解决。这一点，的确和川普还有佛州，德州州长有本质的区别
Oh shit. Ron DeSantis just finally spoke out on the potential Trump indictment: “I don’t know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. I can’t speak to that.”
Get your popcorn ready.
有些脓包，早戳破比晚戳破好，早戳破伤害小。
真的有人想要搞事，就出来溜溜。
DeSantis这次的表现老辣，表面说这是政治化操作，不得罪和党基本盘选民，但一边乐见川普被推下bus，巴不得他出丑，出大丑，被判罪才好， 这样好让自己能顺利当选共和党总统候选人。
川普当年当选，很大程度上也是政治的需要。当时老百姓烦透了不干实事的政治棍子了。好歹老川看上去至少是干事的。 但是这人在政途上经验还是不够，玩不过老牌资深政治家。而且刚愎自用了一些。
想想就刺激，看看哪个洪波是真保守派
除了被当场击毙，事后真不好说。
民主？你是指epstein吗？你相信主党那些个政客都是白莲花，一点点可以被起诉的crime都没有？包括lie to the congress？包括inside trade？我说的还是最明显的俩crime。
纽约当初90%左右没选trump吧。BLM游行他们需要紧张。indict Trump他们紧张什么？难道好多犯罪分子就等着这个趁机再捞一把？
佛州州长明明表态了，他说这是Soros DA 的political prosecution，是在摧毁民主。还要他怎么表态？
川普发帖号召纽约的警察队伍反抗你知道吗？
川普反击了： Desantis 涉嫌娈童！ 哈哈
Trump Suggests DeSantis Will Face Allegations From ‘Underage’ Girls ‘Or Possibly A Man!’ After Speaking Out On Manhattan Probe
劫法场的有不少已经在牢里了吧，1/6号
trump不是还说当年派fbi去帮他拿下佛州州长的么？
种族极端分子肯定有。 但是我/有些人不喜欢奥八和他皮肤什么颜色一点儿关系没有。
不喜欢他是因为他当总统时的政策。 最简单明了的事情是健康保险。 奥八前，健康保险付的少，cover 的多。 现在是健康保险越来越不好了。特别富有的无所谓。特别轻盈的受益，中产才是受灾的
All NYPD officers — including plainclothes detectives — have been ordered to wear their full uniform tomorrow beginning at 7am ahead of a possible indictment of former President Donald Trump, a police source tells @CBSNews @PatMilton14.