LZ现在在相对稳定的金融公司工作,可以全职WFH。现在接到一个政府部门的pre-offer. 这个职位的security level是很高的,Top Secret/SCI,要polygraph好像. 不知道要不要继续,还是decline这个pre-offer. 内容如下。 Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee: 1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc). 有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。 ~~~ 我又仔细看了下职位的一些要求,感觉security clearance估计比较悬。即使我个人没有至亲亲属在中国,或者说我已经没有中国人至亲了。 - U.S. Citizenship Required - Security Clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information) - Polygraph Test Required - Position Subject to Drug Testing - Two Year Probationary Period - Direct Deposit Required
LZ现在在相对稳定的金融公司工作,可以全职WFH。现在接到一个政府部门的pre-offer. 这个职位的security level是很高的,要polygraph好像. 不知道要不要继续,还是decline这个pre-offer. 内容如下。 Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee: 1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc). 有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。 toopooh 发表于 2023-01-19 09:54
if you work for 5 years and get retirement, the best you can get is 5% of your salary as pension, that is not a big number even if you are at GS15 step 10, that will be only ~ $9000 per year
if you work for 5 years and get retirement, the best you can get is 5% of your salary as pension, that is not a big number even if you are at GS15 step 10, that will be only ~ $9000 per year GabeYaYa 发表于 2023-01-19 18:49
回复 49楼QINGQING001的帖子 我是在金融公司工作的技术工,本身并不是学金融的。 这个职位security clearance要求很高。部门也类似做intelligence数据分析的... 所以就担心。即使我的确好想有pension和好的医保啊。而且看前面的回复,感觉联邦的医保的确是比我现在的好。 You must be able to obtain and retain a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information. In addition, you are subject to a Counterintelligence Polygraph examination in order to maintain access to Top Secret information. All employees are subject to a periodic examination on a random basis in order to determine continued eligibility. Refusal to take the examination may result in denial of access to Top Secret information, SAP, and/or unescorted access to SCIFs.
回复 49楼QINGQING001的帖子 我是在金融公司工作的技术工,本身并不是学金融的。 这个职位security clearance要求很高。部门也类似做intelligence数据分析的... 所以就担心。即使我的确好想有pension和好的医保啊。而且看前面的回复,感觉联邦的医保的确是比我现在的好。 You must be able to obtain and retain a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information. In addition, you are subject to a Counterintelligence Polygraph examination in order to maintain access to Top Secret information. All employees are subject to a periodic examination on a random basis in order to determine continued eligibility. Refusal to take the examination may result in denial of access to Top Secret information, SAP, and/or unescorted access to SCIFs. toopooh 发表于 2023-01-19 19:29
Top security clearance 有可能需要Financial Disclosure Report,会调查你本人的信用,经济财务状况,而且你以后的工作需要维持良好的信用分数。我老公有security clearance,不是top级别。前些天有个小状况,有个小帐单被意外送到debt collection 部门把他紧张得不行,怕影响到他的信用记录而影响到工作,立即上诉解决了。你以后的银行账户上如果有国外资金进出,可能都需要报备。
LZ现在在相对稳定的金融公司工作,可以全职WFH。现在接到一个政府部门的pre-offer. 这个职位的security level是很高的,Top Secret/SCI,要polygraph好像. 不知道要不要继续,还是decline这个pre-offer. 内容如下。 Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee: 1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc). 有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。 ~~~ 我又仔细看了下职位的一些要求,感觉security clearance估计比较悬。即使我个人没有至亲亲属在中国,或者说我已经没有中国人至亲了。 - U.S. Citizenship Required - Security Clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information) - Polygraph Test Required - Position Subject to Drug Testing - Two Year Probationary Period - Direct Deposit Required toopooh 发表于 2023-01-19 09:54
LZ现在在相对稳定的金融公司工作,可以全职WFH。现在接到一个政府部门的pre-offer. 这个职位的security level是很高的,Top Secret/SCI,要polygraph好像. 不知道要不要继续,还是decline这个pre-offer. 内容如下。 Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee: 1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc). 有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。 ~~~ 我又仔细看了下职位的一些要求,感觉security clearance估计比较悬。即使我个人没有至亲亲属在中国,或者说我已经没有中国人至亲了。 - U.S. Citizenship Required - Security Clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information) - Polygraph Test Required - Position Subject to Drug Testing - Two Year Probationary Period - Direct Deposit Required toopooh 发表于 2023-01-19 09:54
LZ现在在相对稳定的金融公司工作,可以全职WFH。现在接到一个政府部门的pre-offer. 这个职位的security level是很高的,Top Secret/SCI,要polygraph好像. 不知道要不要继续,还是decline这个pre-offer. 内容如下。 Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee: 1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc). 有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。 ~~~ 我又仔细看了下职位的一些要求,感觉security clearance估计比较悬。即使我个人没有至亲亲属在中国,或者说我已经没有中国人至亲了。 - U.S. Citizenship Required - Security Clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information) - Polygraph Test Required - Position Subject to Drug Testing - Two Year Probationary Period - Direct Deposit Required toopooh 发表于 2023-01-19 09:54
Work Role: XXX Pay Band: 3 Location: Springfield, VA
Before you consider resigning from your current job (if applicable), please understand that there are several steps to complete before you can become an XXX employee:
1) Complete attached pre-offer questionnaire and return it to me within 3 business days. 2) Accept your conditional offer of employment and complete all required forms. 3) Complete pre-employment processing, which may involve extensive and time-consuming security measures. 4) Upon successful completion of all pre-employment processing, XXX will work on matching your skills to a specific assignment, which may take some time to identify. 5) After you have received your assignment, XXX will work with you to schedule your first day of employment so that you may make arrangements (such as finding housing, giving appropriate notice to an employer, etc).
有没有有经验的大佬指点一下我?新职位工资和我现在不会差太多。但是退休金和医保和PTO会有优势一点。已经咨询有没有可能全职WFH. 目前还没有答案。 回国可能会麻烦一点,要报备。
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我又仔细看了下职位的一些要求,感觉security clearance估计比较悬。即使我个人没有至亲亲属在中国,或者说我已经没有中国人至亲了。 - U.S. Citizenship Required - Security Clearance (Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information) - Polygraph Test Required - Position Subject to Drug Testing - Two Year Probationary Period - Direct Deposit Required
一代移民能通过吗
能。就是时间长,我的花了十个月。
请问审核期间会通知你现在的雇主吗?我怕他们调查会联系我现在的雇主,然后现在的雇主知道了,但是我最后又没通过。。。就很尴尬
最烦这种高高在上的背景调查了,一点都不从applicant的角度着想。跟国内衙门一样讨厌
会调查工作情况,你可以请关系好的同事做reference。这个确实特别讨厌。我那时候提供公司的reference是国人,特别铁,但一个在马里兰一个在加州,我以为是电话或者Zoom,后来才知道,都是当地的investigator跟她们约谈,而且是面谈。然后还有朋友,老公,邻居,都面谈了,统统查了一溜够
和邻居面谈 wow
你这个政府工是gs么?如果是,最高工资才180k多点,光板只有死工资,没bonus,没rsu,没option,没espp,一般比industry差很多啊,你确定资薪差不多?
对大陆出生的人来说TSC非常难的吧
他们交税好像有exemption,税率低
啊 感觉好烦啊
那你现在回国方便吗 需要组织批准吗
那是肯定需要批准。
还有这类工作能全职WFH的概率大吗?职位没有说是REMOTE POSITION.
This is kind of what I am afraid of... 我在国内没有直系亲属,但是还是希望可以经常回国看望其他亲友和吃喝玩乐的
看你什么position。因为疫情,我是WFH,否则每天要进DC里面。
奥没看清,你有说用polygraph,哈哈哈。没关系的说实话就行
同时很羡慕你能去DC上班
如果离退休还很遥远,不是为了退休后的福利,我觉得联邦政府并没有那么多的吸引力。
怎么可能,都是谣言。跟大家一样的
哈哈哪里想的这么美啊妹妹,临退休去政府混一下然后拿全福利,这可纯粹的误导,不在政府干个20年你得个嘚儿啊。一入侯门深似海,哈哈哈哈😂
希望不会吧
同意,联邦如果不是total compensation持平或者更高,不然吸引力不那么大,除非industry太累想来躺平。但是如果是工作有deadline的,或者要管人的,估计都没机会躺平。联邦管人最头痛了,下面的都是大爷
Pension 是和工作年限挂钩的,当然工龄越长pension 越高。退休后以在职职工的保费享用在职时医疗保险,只要从联邦机构退休就可以了。
我只能说你想的太美啊妹妹
我是联邦职员呀,身边很多同事就是这样的呀。55+,进入我们机构工作5年就退休,是我一些同事的计划。” many federal program can be carried into retirement “. 我哪里想太美了? 我自己离退休还太遥远了。联邦政府的福利对我而言有吸引力的只有假期多而已
觉得你肯定不是政府部门的,不然怎么会不明白。我现在的医疗insurance两千多一个月,政府付一千九,工资里扣1百,干够20年退休一样的保险我不付钱;不够二十年按年限按比例,就算你用一样的保险两千多一个月你付,你占到便宜了?
好的。你觉得我不是就不是吧。你比我清楚。呵呵😄
你确定你的讲的是联邦政府?联邦医保政府只管70%左右
也许我武断了,那你说说你们部门怎么个5年福利全有的道理。讨论讨论也是好事。
那这联邦政府的空子也太大了。真要这样真可以考虑50以后申请一把,哈哈
check opm website 5 year is the minimal you can get retirement
https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/fers-information/eligibility/
if you work for 5 years and get retirement, the best you can get is 5% of your salary as pension, that is not a big number even if you are at GS15 step 10, that will be only ~ $9000 per year
干5年才算政府invested,不代表你就啥好处都有。只做五年那点小福利基本可以忽略不计。所以我说一入侯门深似海。
我不是要pension,我要full医疗保险
不是怕背景调查,是怕了调查了又没有过,然后同事雇主又知道了。。。我现在也没有好的同事人选让他们调查,感觉都好尴尬
那就得干好多年,临退休年龄才去政府那就是只能得个嘚儿,哈哈哈哈。开玩笑了😝这个词好玩儿,刚学会的
我认识的人里还听说没过的,不过的确等得久。
5年并没有full benefits,但可以退休,然后付在职员工的保费享用同样的在职联邦职工的医疗保险。
这是我一个从私人机构转到我们机构一个55+同事给我分享的她转入我们机构的原因:她丈夫是state police,属于州政府职工。刚刚退休。退休前他们夫妇一个月的医疗保费$200多。他老公退休后,州政府不再为他支付部分保费,如果要维持他们的医疗保险,他俩一个月的医疗保险费用为$2000多。她老公很多健康问题,需要很好的coverage,包括各种理疗等等。Medicare要到65+以后才能买,而且要很好的coverage,各种partA,part B,partD加起来费用不低coverage也不是很好。我同事转后我们机构,用联邦职工的保险,夫妻俩一个月保费$200多。她工作5年后退休后继续享用同样的医疗保险,仍是付$200多。这就是$2000多/月的开支到$200多/月的节省。
我的行业机会很多,联邦政府的福利是吸引力也是枷锁。尤其对于离退休遥远的我来说,要不要坚持到退休,是一个时刻在思考的问题😂
不知你申请的什么部门。看前面你说的好像是搞金融,你又不是搞CIA,FBI的。在政府部门搞军警监狱的老中我见到多了也没有调查多苛刻的。至于call reference是不能乱问乱调查的。你把比较熟的电话地址给清楚了就行。
我是在金融公司工作的技术工,本身并不是学金融的。
这个职位security clearance要求很高。部门也类似做intelligence数据分析的... 所以就担心。即使我的确好想有pension和好的医保啊。而且看前面的回复,感觉联邦的医保的确是比我现在的好。
You must be able to obtain and retain a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information. In addition, you are subject to a Counterintelligence Polygraph examination in order to maintain access to Top Secret information. All employees are subject to a periodic examination on a random basis in order to determine continued eligibility. Refusal to take the examination may result in denial of access to Top Secret information, SAP, and/or unescorted access to SCIFs.
联邦的混成老油子打卡,不少人工作到80多,感觉pension确实没什么大意义了
Top security clearance 有可能需要Financial Disclosure Report,会调查你本人的信用,经济财务状况,而且你以后的工作需要维持良好的信用分数。我老公有security clearance,不是top级别。前些天有个小状况,有个小帐单被意外送到debt collection 部门把他紧张得不行,怕影响到他的信用记录而影响到工作,立即上诉解决了。 你以后的银行账户上如果有国外资金进出,可能都需要报备。
谢谢姐妹分享经验!
请问联邦政府工作在哪里看比较好? 面试难吗? 从申请到pre- offer大约多久? 经历过昨天的血雨腥风后,感觉稳定性比啥都好:(
现在中美关系这么敏感 楼主还是小心吧 进安全级别太高的部门不是什么好事
那你当初为啥要申请。。
联邦雇员可以每年放更多进去Roth,现在应该是2万左右。
一般只调查自己父母,siblings,in-law 父母。
有clearance的职位基本上没法全职WFH,因为你需要在classified environment工作,一般是公司的lab和电脑。当然你可能有些时间是可以远程的,比如不access那些资料的时候。 审查大概需要3-6个月,甚至听说过有一年的,根据每个人都情况不一样,如果你很多资料在中国,大概率要时间比较长的。
不需要太担心,一般都能过,除非你确实有问题。。。需要啥资料如实提供就好了。
Roth TSP 不像Roth IRA 有收入限制,但是Roth TSP和TSP加起来不能超过annual limit 两万多
第一条要求就是公民。
USAJOBS.GOV 我这个挺快的 一两个月大概
我家俩边还的确没有入党过的。祖上被土共迫害惨了。坚决不入。。。
但是证实证伪都很难。再说,你如少先队、共青团这些外围组织要不要交代?
妹妹真不用担心。家里情况不重要。以我家的情况,如果我能过,大部分人都能过。我爸军校出身,党员,国家干部,还当过驻外使馆官员,查起来全都是火坑。我公婆都大学教授,敏感专业,一个教化学一个教物理。另外跟国内经济牵连我也是必然的,疫情给两家都汇过钱,希望家人能好过一些。调查我的时候,人家拿着我的credit report一条条问我这些汇款,我都如实回答。人家也都表示理解。我的部门属于DHS,也是top clearance,查的很细,但问心无愧,我知道一定能过。
谢谢姐妹!very helpful!
一般人没有,部队系统有。
现在的直接supervisor 和HR都会联系,这不是你填个其他同事就可以糊弄过去的。而且你即使要求他们不联系现在的工作单位,他们也不会理你的。政府这帮人就这样,一副爱来不来的样子,很烦人。
你不是联邦政府的吧?联邦政府里的保险自负额跟工龄无关。
联邦雇员表示从没听说过这个福利。
扣Roth就存不了那么多tsp,这俩是cumulative
state department也有
没听过你可以去学习一下ROTH TSP
不会通知的 应该。我原来拿到一个州政府的offer,对方主动跟我说还要背景调查,让我先别跟现在雇主说。不过我后来没去。
再看了大家回答 看来还是有可能。不过楼主接了试试看呗。应该没什么的。
她说的是退休福利。 我以前听说的是十年以上,57岁以上,退休可以继续用医疗保险。今天看到贴里有说五年的。 https://www.cbp.gov/node/356709/printable/print
貌似五年的是62岁以上退休,就是说57岁进政府。 这当然也可能吧,不过对大部分人来说还是服务十年以上年龄57以上才能退休拿医疗保险福利。
全放Roth不就行了?
你可以把tsp全部放Roth。
看到这儿,我也有兴趣想多问下, 1.是不是只有citizen才有可能成为联邦政府的雇员 2.干5年之后退休,需要满足一个最低的退休年龄吗?(比如说,我想50岁退休,假如我45岁开始干的话,可以吗?) 谢谢层主。
全放Roth能否拿到match?
退休之后的医疗保险 - 除了必须工作n年以上,退休前还必须用fed 的plan