凶手可能还用假名在网上发过帖子： Pappa Rodgers was a member of the "University of Idaho Murders–Case Discussion" Facebook group, until the account was removed after posting "some really creepy stuff," according to group administrator, Kristine Cameron. On November 30, Pappa Rodgers posted: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies." At one point, Pappa Rodgers got into an argument about the murders with another Facebook user, who asked: "Why do you communicate like a serial killer?" Explaining the decision to later remove Pappa Rodgers from the Facebook page, Cameron said: "Papa Rodgers was NEVER a mod or admin in this group. He was on here and argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff and posted similar questions to Bryan's crime questions." She added: "We removed Papa Rodgers at 7:10 the evening before Bryan's arrest. He created a group page and had 6 people in it. No one has heard from Papa Rodgers since the arrest." "Bryan crime questions," appears to be a reference to questions posted on Reddit several months ago by a user called Bryan Kohberger, prior to the Moscow murders, who asked criminals for details about what they felt while committing crimes. After the Moscow murders, the case was discussed in depth by a user called InsideLooking, who posted on the r/MoscowMurders Reddit group. The user correctly identified the importance of a white Hyundai Elantra seen near the crime scene, and that shoe prints at the scene likely belonged to the suspect, before the information was confirmed by police. In one post, InsideLooking posted: "Speculation: killer parked behind the house. Approached property through tree line. Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door. One knife according to coroners statement. Time of murder approximately 3:20am – 3:40am according to car fleeing scene and on camera on highway 8 approximately 3:45am. Vehicle left skid marks upon exit." In response to one of InsideLooking's posts, another Reddit user posted: "Dude is solving his own crime...Psycho." InsideLooking's Reddit profile picture initially showed a masked man dressed in black, holding a flashlight. Authorities haven't formally made any links between the Pappa Rodgers and InsideLooking social media accounts to Kohberger. Newsweek has contacted the Moscow Police Department for comment.
凶手可能还用假名在网上发过帖子： Pappa Rodgers was a member of the "University of Idaho Murders–Case Discussion" Facebook group, until the account was removed after posting "some really creepy stuff," according to group administrator, Kristine Cameron. On November 30, Pappa Rodgers posted: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies." At one point, Pappa Rodgers got into an argument about the murders with another Facebook user, who asked: "Why do you communicate like a serial killer?" Explaining the decision to later remove Pappa Rodgers from the Facebook page, Cameron said: "Papa Rodgers was NEVER a mod or admin in this group. He was on here and argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff and posted similar questions to Bryan's crime questions." She added: "We removed Papa Rodgers at 7:10 the evening before Bryan's arrest. He created a group page and had 6 people in it. No one has heard from Papa Rodgers since the arrest." "Bryan crime questions," appears to be a reference to questions posted on Reddit several months ago by a user called Bryan Kohberger, prior to the Moscow murders, who asked criminals for details about what they felt while committing crimes. After the Moscow murders, the case was discussed in depth by a user called InsideLooking, who posted on the r/MoscowMurders Reddit group. The user correctly identified the importance of a white Hyundai Elantra seen near the crime scene, and that shoe prints at the scene likely belonged to the suspect, before the information was confirmed by police. In one post, InsideLooking posted: "Speculation: killer parked behind the house. Approached property through tree line. Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door. One knife according to coroners statement. Time of murder approximately 3:20am – 3:40am according to car fleeing scene and on camera on highway 8 approximately 3:45am. Vehicle left skid marks upon exit." In response to one of InsideLooking's posts, another Reddit user posted: "Dude is solving his own crime...Psycho." InsideLooking's Reddit profile picture initially showed a masked man dressed in black, holding a flashlight. Authorities haven't formally made any links between the Pappa Rodgers and InsideLooking social media accounts to Kohberger. Newsweek has contacted the Moscow Police Department for comment. autumncolor22 发表于 2023-01-08 21:52
凶手可能还用假名在网上发过帖子： Pappa Rodgers was a member of the "University of Idaho Murders–Case Discussion" Facebook group, until the account was removed after posting "some really creepy stuff," according to group administrator, Kristine Cameron. On November 30, Pappa Rodgers posted: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies." At one point, Pappa Rodgers got into an argument about the murders with another Facebook user, who asked: "Why do you communicate like a serial killer?" Explaining the decision to later remove Pappa Rodgers from the Facebook page, Cameron said: "Papa Rodgers was NEVER a mod or admin in this group. He was on here and argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff and posted similar questions to Bryan's crime questions." She added: "We removed Papa Rodgers at 7:10 the evening before Bryan's arrest. He created a group page and had 6 people in it. No one has heard from Papa Rodgers since the arrest." "Bryan crime questions," appears to be a reference to questions posted on Reddit several months ago by a user called Bryan Kohberger, prior to the Moscow murders, who asked criminals for details about what they felt while committing crimes. After the Moscow murders, the case was discussed in depth by a user called InsideLooking, who posted on the r/MoscowMurders Reddit group. The user correctly identified the importance of a white Hyundai Elantra seen near the crime scene, and that shoe prints at the scene likely belonged to the suspect, before the information was confirmed by police. In one post, InsideLooking posted: "Speculation: killer parked behind the house. Approached property through tree line. Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door. One knife according to coroners statement. Time of murder approximately 3:20am – 3:40am according to car fleeing scene and on camera on highway 8 approximately 3:45am. Vehicle left skid marks upon exit." In response to one of InsideLooking's posts, another Reddit user posted: "Dude is solving his own crime...Psycho." InsideLooking's Reddit profile picture initially showed a masked man dressed in black, holding a flashlight. Authorities haven't formally made any links between the Pappa Rodgers and InsideLooking social media accounts to Kohberger. Newsweek has contacted the Moscow Police Department for comment. autumncolor22 发表于 2023-01-08 21:52
我看了那个警察提交逮捕令到一个19页的文件，觉得也是。因为三楼两个女孩躺在一个女孩的单人床上，而有其中一个女孩的狗还在另一件屋子里，这里很奇怪。因为有狗的房子会引起很大的声音，他也没有杀狗，其实是有很多不可控因素的。 19页的文件在这里，大家自己看： https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjajoq627r8AhWHnWoFHWsBAWwQFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.documentcloud.org%2Fdocuments%2F23564652-idaho-murders-court-document-unsealed&usg=AOvVaw0-AwiLD2XNF6gmX7VG8KtZ 我根据我看到的信息，推测作案过程是 （注意不是总结，是推测）： 这个变态男对三楼一个女生觊觎很久，大概跟踪有超过三个月，然后不知道发了什么神经突然决定大半夜行凶。但他没想到同层另一个女生听到了动静，自己跑出来看，看到非常血腥的一幕开始哭，然后凶手说了句：“it’s ok, I will help you”,把她也杀了。应该不是计划中，所以略微慌张的忘了捡刀套，就在这个单人床旁边。他杀玩第二个女生还把她一起放到了床上。然后那对couple也醒了，因为那个女生点了4am的doordash，他就也把他们杀了。而为什么没有杀楼下的DM，也许因为DM完全freeze没动又很黑没看到，也许是事情超出了他的预期他沉浸在自己的想法里…… 肯定是psychopath，但这个case板上钉钉了，肯定是有预谋，专门把手机关机，洗车，在父母家的时候把垃圾扔到邻居家。Idaho是有死刑的，当时Google 查Idaho第一个跳出来的就是问询有没有死刑。
我看了那个警察提交逮捕令到一个19页的文件，觉得也是。因为三楼两个女孩躺在一个女孩的单人床上，而有其中一个女孩的狗还在另一件屋子里，这里很奇怪。 我根据我看到的信息，推测作案过程是： 这个变态男对三楼一个女生觊觎很久，大概跟踪有超过三个月，然后不知道发了什么神经突然决定大半夜行凶。但他没想到同层另一个女生四点还醒着（点过doordash），她听到了动静，自己跑出来看，看到非常血腥的一幕开始哭，然后凶手说了句：“it’s ok, I will help you”,把她也杀了。应该不是计划中，所以略微慌张的忘了捡刀套，就在这个单人床旁边。他杀玩第二个女生还把她一起放到了床上。然后同层的那对couple也醒了，他就也把他们杀了，这对couple有跟他进行一些反抗。而为什么没有杀楼下的DM，也许因为DM完全freeze没动又很黑没看到，也许是事情超出了他的预期他沉浸在自己的想法里…… 肯定是psychopath，但这个case板上钉钉了，肯定是有预谋，专门把手机关机，洗车，在父母家的时候把垃圾扔到邻居家。Idaho是有死刑的，当时Google 查Idaho第一个跳出来的就是问询有没有死刑。 Cashback 发表于 2023-01-08 23:27
我看了那个警察提交逮捕令到一个19页的文件，觉得也是。因为三楼两个女孩躺在一个女孩的单人床上，而有其中一个女孩的狗还在另一件屋子里，这里很奇怪。因为有狗的房子会引起很大的声音，他也没有杀狗，其实是有很多不可控因素的。 我根据我看到的信息，推测作案过程是： 这个变态男对三楼一个女生觊觎很久，大概跟踪有超过三个月，然后不知道发了什么神经突然决定大半夜行凶。但他没想到同层另一个女生四点还醒着（点过doordash），她听到了动静，自己跑出来看，看到非常血腥的一幕开始哭，然后凶手说了句：“it’s ok, I will help you”,把她也杀了。应该不是计划中，所以略微慌张的忘了捡刀套，就在这个单人床旁边。他杀玩第二个女生还把她一起放到了床上。然后同层的那对couple也醒了，他就也把他们杀了，这对couple有跟他进行一些反抗。而为什么没有杀楼下的DM，也许因为DM完全freeze没动又很黑没看到，也许是事情超出了他的预期他沉浸在自己的想法里…… 肯定是psychopath，但这个case板上钉钉了，肯定是有预谋，专门把手机关机，洗车，在父母家的时候把垃圾扔到邻居家。Idaho是有死刑的，当时Google 查Idaho第一个跳出来的就是问询有没有死刑。 Cashback 发表于 2023-01-08 23:27
我看到说不是事先安排好的。第一次是因为speeding,第二次是因为tailgating. FBI说不是他们安排的。 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands
FBI否认了 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands
FBI否认了 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands kaisa 发表于 2023-01-09 06:39
凶手可能还用假名在网上发过帖子： Pappa Rodgers was a member of the "University of Idaho Murders–Case Discussion" Facebook group, until the account was removed after posting "some really creepy stuff," according to group administrator, Kristine Cameron. On November 30, Pappa Rodgers posted: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies." At one point, Pappa Rodgers got into an argument about the murders with another Facebook user, who asked: "Why do you communicate like a serial killer?" Explaining the decision to later remove Pappa Rodgers from the Facebook page, Cameron said: "Papa Rodgers was NEVER a mod or admin in this group. He was on here and argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff and posted similar questions to Bryan's crime questions." She added: "We removed Papa Rodgers at 7:10 the evening before Bryan's arrest. He created a group page and had 6 people in it. No one has heard from Papa Rodgers since the arrest." "Bryan crime questions," appears to be a reference to questions posted on Reddit several months ago by a user called Bryan Kohberger, prior to the Moscow murders, who asked criminals for details about what they felt while committing crimes. After the Moscow murders, the case was discussed in depth by a user called InsideLooking, who posted on the r/MoscowMurders Reddit group. The user correctly identified the importance of a white Hyundai Elantra seen near the crime scene, and that shoe prints at the scene likely belonged to the suspect, before the information was confirmed by police. In one post, InsideLooking posted: "Speculation: killer parked behind the house. Approached property through tree line. Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door. One knife according to coroners statement. Time of murder approximately 3:20am – 3:40am according to car fleeing scene and on camera on highway 8 approximately 3:45am. Vehicle left skid marks upon exit." In response to one of InsideLooking's posts, another Reddit user posted: "Dude is solving his own crime...Psycho." InsideLooking's Reddit profile picture initially showed a masked man dressed in black, holding a flashlight. Authorities haven't formally made any links between the Pappa Rodgers and InsideLooking social media accounts to Kohberger. Newsweek has contacted the Moscow Police Department for comment. autumncolor22 发表于 2023-01-08 21:52
我看到说不是事先安排好的。第一次是因为speeding,第二次是因为tailgating. FBI说不是他们安排的。 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands kaisa 发表于 2023-01-09 02:03
凶宅360度 virtual tour https://kuula.co/post/NWF7R/collection/79sT0
YTD1Smore 发表于 2023-01-08 19:40
看了这个就比较清晰了，我还是觉得他的target本来是三楼的那个被捅了很多🔪的女生，三楼另一个是因为听见了动静去看被波及，然后二楼的那对couple因为女生醒着也开门去看“someone is here"，就不幸遇难，而二楼的DM因为屋子和那对couple隔着一个厅，没听清,而且她和凶手撞面的时候她没有动，也许凶犯真的没注意到。看来他完全是从二楼的玻璃门进出。美国虽说总体民风淳朴但实在是变态也不少，如果她们的玻璃门是锁着的也许悲剧能够避免。
通过几次真空压缩什么的
还有些女的觉得凶手非常英俊，渴望被凶手虐待或者杀害
因为警察自己找不到尸体 警方只有选没有尸体的定罪（其实也不可能死刑） 也永远不知道尸体 还是不寻求死刑 但知道尸体 但是就没有警方找到找到尸体或残骸来起诉这个选项
Pappa Rodgers was a member of the "University of Idaho Murders–Case Discussion" Facebook group, until the account was removed after posting "some really creepy stuff," according to group administrator, Kristine Cameron. On November 30, Pappa Rodgers posted: "Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath. This evidence was released prior to autopsies."
At one point, Pappa Rodgers got into an argument about the murders with another Facebook user, who asked: "Why do you communicate like a serial killer?" Explaining the decision to later remove Pappa Rodgers from the Facebook page, Cameron said: "Papa Rodgers was NEVER a mod or admin in this group. He was on here and argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff and posted similar questions to Bryan's crime questions." She added: "We removed Papa Rodgers at 7:10 the evening before Bryan's arrest. He created a group page and had 6 people in it. No one has heard from Papa Rodgers since the arrest." "Bryan crime questions," appears to be a reference to questions posted on Reddit several months ago by a user called Bryan Kohberger, prior to the Moscow murders, who asked criminals for details about what they felt while committing crimes.
After the Moscow murders, the case was discussed in depth by a user called InsideLooking, who posted on the r/MoscowMurders Reddit group. The user correctly identified the importance of a white Hyundai Elantra seen near the crime scene, and that shoe prints at the scene likely belonged to the suspect, before the information was confirmed by police. In one post, InsideLooking posted: "Speculation: killer parked behind the house. Approached property through tree line. Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door. One knife according to coroners statement. Time of murder approximately 3:20am – 3:40am according to car fleeing scene and on camera on highway 8 approximately 3:45am. Vehicle left skid marks upon exit." In response to one of InsideLooking's posts, another Reddit user posted: "Dude is solving his own crime...Psycho."
InsideLooking's Reddit profile picture initially showed a masked man dressed in black, holding a flashlight. Authorities haven't formally made any links between the Pappa Rodgers and InsideLooking social media accounts to Kohberger. Newsweek has contacted the Moscow Police Department for comment.
+1 在美国村里真的没啥安全意识 就感觉总是很安全的民风是淳朴的 压根不会注意锁没锁门
所以西方社会这个问题很大，对犯罪分子事无巨细地报道分析，其实是给变态行为合理化，这个才刚开始，等到真正开始trial起码还得一两年到两三年，新冠期间案件积累太多，到那时候变态又出一套说辞，对这种变态要是证据确凿直接枪毙或者以同样方式直接捅死该多好，其实最符合旧约教义，书上说god不开心惩罚就是大家没听他教导。
太愚蠢了，自己作死的节奏
晚上，要是没灯，怎么能看见血？而且可能从她门边上一跑而过。
也有可能是警察蹲点爆点料钓鱼的。比如InsideLooking就推测谋杀的顺序是先二楼X和E，然后上三楼杀M和K，他还推测凶手想杀的是X和M两个人，E和K都是陪绑的。这些信息好像都错了，因为更像是先三楼，后二楼，然后K受伤最重。
为什么会有death penalty?
这个杀手不是phd吗？华人读书工作能不遇到几个phd?
jury为什么不同意死刑？不明白美国怎么教育老百姓的。 没有杀人偿命一说？
江歌那案子也是。引渡回中国就死刑了吧。这些民主国家jury制度都没有死刑吗？
这个案子不是马上就要开庭了吗？
华人有几个读这个专业的啊？ stem party queen/king也不一定能遇到这专业的学生吧。
re，而且四点多还没睡第二天一般会睡到下午吧～
有一部电视剧 unbelievable，讲一个入室强奸犯，从华州到科州各种犯案，里面的警察查案的时候发现有一部警察写的书很是受这些变态推崇。
这个，确定家里很穷吗？我昨天看到他以前的朋友的采访， 说杀手的父母都在学校工作， 而且这个朋友说他的父母是很好的人之类的？在学校工作的人， 很穷吗？
我看了那个警察提交逮捕令到一个19页的文件，觉得也是。因为三楼两个女孩躺在一个女孩的单人床上，而有其中一个女孩的狗还在另一件屋子里，这里很奇怪。因为有狗的房子会引起很大的声音，他也没有杀狗，其实是有很多不可控因素的。
19页的文件在这里，大家自己看：
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjajoq627r8AhWHnWoFHWsBAWwQFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.documentcloud.org%2Fdocuments%2F23564652-idaho-murders-court-document-unsealed&usg=AOvVaw0-AwiLD2XNF6gmX7VG8KtZ
我根据我看到的信息，推测作案过程是 （注意不是总结，是推测）：
这个变态男对三楼一个女生觊觎很久，大概跟踪有超过三个月，然后不知道发了什么神经突然决定大半夜行凶。但他没想到同层另一个女生听到了动静，自己跑出来看，看到非常血腥的一幕开始哭，然后凶手说了句：“it’s ok, I will help you”,把她也杀了。应该不是计划中，所以略微慌张的忘了捡刀套，就在这个单人床旁边。他杀玩第二个女生还把她一起放到了床上。然后那对couple也醒了，因为那个女生点了4am的doordash，他就也把他们杀了。而为什么没有杀楼下的DM，也许因为DM完全freeze没动又很黑没看到，也许是事情超出了他的预期他沉浸在自己的想法里……
肯定是psychopath，但这个case板上钉钉了，肯定是有预谋，专门把手机关机，洗车，在父母家的时候把垃圾扔到邻居家。Idaho是有死刑的，当时Google 查Idaho第一个跳出来的就是问询有没有死刑。
啥叫她是个sick person?
我刚开始也是这么想的，觉得如果不是隔了11个小时会不会有些人还有救。但我猜这个DM也是非常害怕，可能内心斗争了很久才有勇气去查看，不知道晕倒的是不是她。而且嫌犯早上九点有回来房子这边，也许如果不是这俩女生一直都在，没准他就把刀鞘给取走了。
DM也是victim,其实她的命真的是捡回来的。我觉得除非说她是凶手嫁祸，还是不要blame她了。但从看到的信息来看，嫁祸的几率基本为零。
妈妈是代课老师？那工资是不高，也没用正式职员的各种福利。
这两次都是FBI故意找警察做的，为的是看他的手。我不确定他是不是手有啥伤口。
她可能有感觉发生了啥事，但没往最坏的方向去想，同时警惕性的确太低了。
同层是哪一楼？四个被杀的都在同层？不是分别在三楼和二楼么？
我猜这变态法医学拿的是A
细节我有点忘，不过这四个人和DM都不是同层，而第六个室友在DM的下一层，所以啥都没听见。
你还是爬爬楼吧再推测总结。什么乱七八糟的别误导新进楼的。
可能先刺了女孩，没刺死，所以后来说我帮你，补刀吧
目前读到的是dm听到凶手说出了这句话 但是还没有报道说这句话是在对三楼那个同屋女孩说的 还是二楼跟男朋友一起的女孩说的
是事先安排好pull over的吗？感觉不像啊，问话期间的警察身上的镜头都没有照到车里。如果是事先安排的，怎么会一点镜头都没有。
有。 连我都注意到了他的手。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzYGr6W4Ds
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案发的伊利诺州本来就没有死刑，是美国政府因为案子影响太大，强行越权把案子弄到了联邦法院审，联邦级别是可以判死刑的。为此伊利诺州还抗议了一番，说联邦政府越权了。后来jury估计也是反感联邦政府的越权行为，还是没有给死刑。
不能爆，一拿钱爆料当证人就有可信度问题了。辩护律师喜欢用这招，找人用金钱去诱惑证人，让他们要不上不了庭要不不被取信。
我看到说不是事先安排好的。第一次是因为speeding,第二次是因为tailgating.
FBI说不是他们安排的。 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands
被pull over两次都是有意为之，新闻都说了
这些是pull over的借口啊！不找借口怎么pull over？
FBI否认了 The FBI denies it had any involvement in requesting the Hyundai Elantra be pulled over, telling Fox News Digital in a statement that "the December 15th traffic stops conducted on the vehicle being driven by Bryan Kohberger in Indiana were not requested or directed by the FBI." https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-murders-fbi-directed-indiana-police-pull-over-bryan-kohberger-seeking-video-images-hands
有照到正脸的录像，我现在看到的录像有三个角度的，警察身上的至少有两个，当时看不出任何异常，警察很随意，告诉他们别跟的太近，他爸也很正常说赶路所以有点punchy ，警察说那就不给你们罚单了，warning一下，很自然
FBI做事流程，不可能都透明的，他们否认也可能是出于其他考虑，比如不承认介入警察执法？ FBI就算出于必要杀个人也不会公开承认。
不知道大家有没有看到这个，凶手有可能一直化名为Pappa Rodger在其中一个案情讨论Facebook群组University of Idaho Murders - Case Discussion发言，被抓前透露过很多只有警方知道的具体案情
分析的很好，我也觉得DM不是从犯
天哪，杀完人，然后参加facebook 和reddit 的讨论，对案件进行分析
Bryan开车很不好，八月份时在凶宅附近他被警察stop，因为没系安全带。
他爸爸妈妈收入加起来一共4万多。第一次申请破产是1996。前几年又申请破产，负债260，000尔资产只有150K。
妈妈收入1万多
三楼是两女孩。二楼是couple和DM. couple和DM的住处隔了一个living room. 应该3楼先被杀， couple中女的因为是醒的听到动静往外看见到凶手说了话（凶手离开时要下楼从二楼离开）， 然后couple被杀. 我有点怀疑凶手可能想杀或者奸杀三楼一女孩，但没想到那天晚上另一个女孩 和她一起睡，也没想到狗会叫。所以慌乱之中把刀套拉在床上。
http://www.keai99.com/thread-528566-1-1.html
非常同意，target是三楼的其中一个女孩
还有一种可能是觉得自己在做噩梦，觉得睡醒了就一切都正常了。。。凌晨四点是不是人脑子都不太清楚。。。
他至少知道在接近现场的时候把手机关上。不是他脑残，他学这个的知道如何抹杀他自己的犯罪痕迹，比如关手机，洗车，把车牌子更换成WA的，把自家垃圾扔到邻居家好混淆生物痕迹，但他也应该知道，没有完美犯罪，只要你在犯罪现场出现，永远会有物质/信息交换，一定会留下痕迹的！这次最原始的切入点是汽车，和伊利诺伊州那个是类似的。
被pull over两次，两次间隔9分钟，第一次是被county 警察，第二次是state巡警，两次都是因为跟前车太近了。第一次执法记录仪照得很清楚，第二次执法记录仪没戴好，全程只照到地面。警察应该是不知情的，不然不会第二次完全没摄到，也不会联系这么近两次pull over嫌犯。
这是为什么他爸要飞到华盛顿州然后和他一起开车回去的原因吗?
非常同意，FBI不是吃素的，DM肯定没有任何嫌疑，她是这起屠杀的受害者和幸存者，楼主一上来其实就把关注点放错了。
是的，她提供了嫌疑人的figure，made 比如身高和眉毛
我看reddit上的分析是，二楼女孩点了外卖，吃完去厨房扔垃圾，回房间的时候正好看见凶手下楼，她赶紧跑回房间喊bf，所以dm会听到女声 someone is here，但是凶手也看到点外卖的女生了，他跟进去，先杀了估计还没全醒的bf，接着杀了外卖女生。
看了这个就比较清晰了，我还是觉得他的target本来是三楼的那个被捅了很多🔪的女生，三楼另一个是因为听见了动静去看被波及，然后二楼的那对couple因为女生醒着也开门去看“someone is here"，就不幸遇难，而二楼的DM因为屋子和那对couple隔着一个厅，没听清,而且她和凶手撞面的时候她没有动，也许凶犯真的没注意到。看来他完全是从二楼的玻璃门进出。美国虽说总体民风淳朴但实在是变态也不少，如果她们的玻璃门是锁着的也许悲剧能够避免。
有道理，要不然凶手不会慌乱中没有看到幸存女孩，他根本没有顾忌到她，是奔着扔垃圾的女孩去了，我第一次看到这对couple的照片时就特别难过，他们看起来那么开心幸福
三楼两女生当天晚上睡一张床。
先杀了二楼couple, 然后才经过DM房间。应该是DM没开灯，房间黑才没被凶手看见。不是 对DM没有顾忌
28岁就算大龄？
觉得DM以为Bryan是哪位室友的ONS
这是检控双方的plea deal，prosecutor 用这种方法避免trial的不确定性给他定罪，对方认罪但用尸体位置negotiate 轻些的刑罚，达成deal就不需要再继续trial了。
认罪减刑对纳税人是最省钱的了，尽管对受害者家庭有遗憾。Kohberger不认罪的话，证据这么强也至少要折腾一两年甚至更长，耗费数百万。
Kaylee的爸爸妈妈希望死刑。妈妈说如果Kaylee和Madison被关进监狱，她就能去看她们和她们说话，但现在不行了因为她们死了。所以爸爸妈妈希望Bryan死刑。
华人上有ID说如果多人一起作案而警察只抓住一个人，这种情况不能结案。Bryan是在爸爸妈妈家里被抓的，他应该看到爸爸没被抓。
酒吧门口都有 Bouncer 的，酒吧老板应该不会怕他这种猥琐男。
大概率他就是没看到DM。
第一，这是半夜4点，他也不会主动去开灯，DM 也没说有灯光。当在4点左右，在没灯光的房子里，凶手很可能对房子内部的房间结构也不是特别熟悉，很容易没有注意到某一个角度的物品或人。
第二，从二楼的 Floor Plan 来说，他从 Xana 的房间出来，去厨房的玻璃 sliding door 的时候，是需要先朝着 DM 的房门的方向走两步，再右转。很可能 DM 看到他的时候，他正在准备右转，对于 DM 来说，她觉得这人正从她这个大活人身边走过，但是从凶手的走路的方向来说，他可能当时已经视线转移到厨房那边去了，因为那是他的目标方向，而且，DM没有发声音，这也救了她自己。
第三，厨房通向外面的玻璃门，那边的光线可能会比 DM 房间方向的光线亮很多，因为外面的雪地，会反射月光。从光学来说，通常都是在暗处看明处看得清楚，从明处看暗处看不清。外面的光线更亮，也帮助了在暗处的 DM，使她不显眼，同时，也让凶手的注意力投向了外面。
我也觉得没看见DM
不知道这个说法，好象有合伙抢劫案，只抓了一个，被判刑的。他这个案，他没法证明他有同谋吧，我觉得他担心是不是他爸已经把他供出来了，他好决定是不是plead guilty。
看他爸爸的面相挺和善的。在德州小学枪击案时，他妈妈很同情被杀的孩子们，给报社寄了凶手姐姐写的哀悼孩子们的一首诗。到底是什么让他变成这样一个恶魔？
是啊，我觉得可能有人天生有这些倾向，可能减肥前被欺凌就激发了犯罪的欲望
re, 我觉得她是知道陌生人来了，不知道是室友叫来的还是来偷东西的，有些害怕，但是没有料到是来杀人这么严重，所以没有报警。潜意识下觉得不对但是半夜也不好打电话，第二天打电话没人接但是也不敢自己上楼查看，所以叫朋友一起来。
推测合理！
细思极恐！这么刀刀致命太可怕了。
凶手至少有12次半夜开车围着这个房子转，他肯定是选了个混乱好下手的房子
不是说他stalk其中一个女孩吗？那就不是随便选的房子
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而且刀刀致命，男朋友连还手的余地都没有。这个杀手非常冷静和冷血。
那时开始听证不是真正审判
大学生趴体到凌晨其实在很多学校都常见，这个地方治安不错好些年也没有谋杀案，所以她们这样倒是也能理解。