不知道大家知不知道这个事情- TJ 校长故意压着不告诉学生获得National Merit Award,长达五年时间才被发现。据说校长给的理由是怕伤害没有得奖的学生。。。这是什么世道啊!真是让人出离愤怒。这两年TJ江河日下,都是这些妖魔鬼怪在横行啊。还好现在的州长还有点正义之心。 https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/fcps-withholds-awards-pays-455-000-for-equity-contractor/article_0bb6c642-86c9-11ed-abbf-cb802353dab6.html TJ principal, Ann Bonitatibus, and the director of student services, Brandon Kosatka, have been quietly hiding National Merit Commended Student awards from students, parents and the public. As TJ parents compare notes, they say this practice has been occurring for as long as five years, since the principal’s arrival at TJ in 2017. (In the course of reporting, I just discovered – two years later – that National Merit recognized my son, a Class of 2021 TJ graduate, as a Commended Student in September 2020, but the principal withheld that information from families, denying students scholarships and boosts to admissions.) Making matters worse, Fairfax Times has learned that Bonitatibus withheld the awards as school district officials signed a contract of about nine months, paying a controversial contractor, Mutiu Fagbayi, and his company Performance Fact Inc., based in Oakland, Calif., $455,000 for “equity” training that includes a controversial “Equity-centered Strategic Plan” with this goal: “equal outcomes for every student, without exception.” 州长已经下令调查此事,以及学校的录取问题。各大媒体开始报道,并称其为丑闻。TJ 的那帮racists 等着吃官司吧。亚裔维权之路漫长,我们华人不要只顾低头内卷,而是要努力维权啊。 I am stunned by news reports alleging that information about National Merit Awards, as determined by student PSAT scores, was withheld from students at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology until after important deadlines for college scholarships had passed," Youngkin wrote in the letter, in part. Youngkin continued, "I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act." https://wjla.com/news/local/thomas-jefferson-tj-high-school-award-scandal-governor-glenn-youngkin-attorney-general-jason-miyares-national-merit-scholarship-delayed-parents-students-fairfax-county-public-schools-fcps-virginia-education https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/12/29/thomas-jefferson-high-national-merit/
Wow, 这个新出的新闻里面的这一段太shocking了。 这是当地学区花五万块钱请的顾问说的,油管上有记录的话: “The goal is equal outcomes,” Fagbayi explained. “And what we need to be equitable about is the access. In a very real sense, many districts struggle with this. To have true equity, you have to be purposefully unequal when it comes to resources. I want to say that again because most districts struggle with that. To have an equity-centered organization, we have to have the courage and the willingness to be purposefully unequal when it comes to opportunities and access,” For some local parents, the notion of being “purposefully unequal” is not only unethical and immoral but also potentially illegal. 我家九岁的孩子听了马上之后说,这么做的结果,就是人人都变的又傻又懒。学区领导还不如九岁孩子。
之前看新闻好像大部分获奖者都是亚裔的学生 Update: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/top-u-s-high-school-deprived-students-of-national-merit-awards-as-part-of-equity-policy/ “The report by journalist and activist Asra Nomani links the delay of National Merit awards to Thomas Jefferson high’s equity efforts, and its new “equal outcomes for every student, without exception” strategy. Most of the students who had their award notification delayed were Asian, Nomani reported.”
by definition, 如果 a population does exceptionally well after a certain selection process, then this population was biased against (歧视)in the selection process.
by definition, 如果 a population does exceptionally well after a certain selection process, then this population was biased against (歧视)in the selection process. stones 发表于 2023-01-04 22:40
我不了解隐瞒奖学金到底是什么状况,但根据媒体报道的调子,以及州长的发言,这个隐瞒的行为是非常恶劣的。学校自己都承认是错误了。这个没有什么好争论的了吧。 州长是这么说的- “We need to get to the bottom of what appears to be an egregious, deliberate attempt to disadvantage high-performing students at one of the best schools in the country,” Youngkin said. “Parents and students deserve answers and Attorney General Miyares will initiate a full investigation.” 教育局是这么说的。 “Our preliminary understanding is that the delay this fall was a unique situation due to human error,” an FCPS spokesperson said
这么恶劣的行为足以吊销这位校长的教育执照好吗! 你说的第二段,重点不是没有庆祝仪式,而是学生知道这个奖的时候已经too late!! “having teachers unceremoniously drop the Commended Student certificate on student desks the morning of Monday, Nov. 14, too late to include the honor in students’ early applications for college”
看看是不是硬扯: In a call with Yashar, Kosatka admitted that the decision to withhold the information from parents and inform the students in a low-key way was intentional. “We want to recognize students for who they are as individuals, not focus on their achievements,” he told her, claiming that he and the principal didn’t want to “hurt” the feelings of students who didn’t get the award.
赶紧去告诉校长, 他的这句话,"we are deeply sorry"是可以在法庭上作为证据的。 On Monday, December 12, after getting caught, Kosatka sent an email to the parents of Commended Students, notifying them of the “important recognition” and saying, “We are deeply sorry” for not sharing the news earlier. He claimed school officials would contact college admissions offices to correct the record.
也许正是因为你跟TJ没瓜葛才这么想吧,TJ的学生老师都觉得not a big deal, 自己学校被人拿出来当枪使了。 Swinging 发表于 2023-01-05 00:09
TJ的学生老师都觉得not a big deal? 您倒是觉得自己可以代表TJ的老师学生啊。 就算您代表TJ 的广大学生老师都觉得这不是个事,但可惜您无法代表county教育局啊。教育局特意给全county发信说这是个错误,已经在调查,错误正在纠正。对,从州长到教育局都是小题大作,为了取悦几个难搞的不怎么优秀的学生及其家长。
希望这次的事让这个TJ校长下台。这种毒瘤没有资格在教育界害孩子。 Thomas Jefferson 以前的校长 Dr. Evan Glazer 很好, 后来去了IMSA - Illinois Math and Science Academy 作President,把IMSA 前任的烂摊子收拾得不错。IMSA 前任也是搞很多diversity inclusion equity 的事让IMSA 江河日下。一个糟糕的校长可以把一个好学校积累了几十年的名声一夜毁掉。
希望这次的事让这个TJ校长下台。这种毒瘤没有资格在教育界害孩子。 Thomas Jefferson 以前的校长 Dr. Evan Glazer 很好, 后来去了IMSA - Illinois Math and Science Academy 作President,把IMSA 前任的烂摊子收拾得不错。IMSA 前任也是搞很多diversity inclusion equity 的事让IMSA 江河日下。一个糟糕的校长可以把一个好学校积累了几十年的名声一夜毁掉。 tiffany2013 发表于 2023-01-05 05:30
这件事情不会让校长下台,要是能的话我绝对支持。 这件事犯错的是学生处的人,校长没有明显过错。最后倒霉的就是一个犯了错的老师而已。 这个错误有多大的影响,值不值得trigger state investigation? 最后倒霉的还是老师学生。
TJ 校长故意压着不告诉学生获得National Merit Award,长达五年时间才被发现。据说校长给的理由是怕伤害没有得奖的学生。。。这是什么世道啊!真是让人出离愤怒。这两年TJ江河日下,都是这些妖魔鬼怪在横行啊。还好现在的州长还有点正义之心。
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/fcps-withholds-awards-pays-455-000-for-equity-contractor/article_0bb6c642-86c9-11ed-abbf-cb802353dab6.html
TJ principal, Ann Bonitatibus, and the director of student services, Brandon Kosatka, have been quietly hiding National Merit Commended Student awards from students, parents and the public. As TJ parents compare notes, they say this practice has been occurring for as long as five years, since the principal’s arrival at TJ in 2017. (In the course of reporting, I just discovered – two years later – that National Merit recognized my son, a Class of 2021 TJ graduate, as a Commended Student in September 2020, but the principal withheld that information from families, denying students scholarships and boosts to admissions.)
Making matters worse, Fairfax Times has learned that Bonitatibus withheld the awards as school district officials signed a contract of about nine months, paying a controversial contractor, Mutiu Fagbayi, and his company Performance Fact Inc., based in Oakland, Calif., $455,000 for “equity” training that includes a controversial “Equity-centered Strategic Plan” with this goal: “equal outcomes for every student, without exception.”
州长已经下令调查此事,以及学校的录取问题。各大媒体开始报道,并称其为丑闻。TJ 的那帮racists 等着吃官司吧。亚裔维权之路漫长,我们华人不要只顾低头内卷,而是要努力维权啊。
I am stunned by news reports alleging that information about National Merit Awards, as determined by student PSAT scores, was withheld from students at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology until after important deadlines for college scholarships had passed," Youngkin wrote in the letter, in part. Youngkin continued, "I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act."
https://wjla.com/news/local/thomas-jefferson-tj-high-school-award-scandal-governor-glenn-youngkin-attorney-general-jason-miyares-national-merit-scholarship-delayed-parents-students-fairfax-county-public-schools-fcps-virginia-education https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/12/29/thomas-jefferson-high-national-merit/
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这是当地学区花五万块钱请的顾问说的,油管上有记录的话:
“The goal is equal outcomes,” Fagbayi explained. “And what we need to be equitable about is the access. In a very real sense, many districts struggle with this. To have true equity, you have to be purposefully unequal when it comes to resources. I want to say that again because most districts struggle with that. To have an equity-centered organization, we have to have the courage and the willingness to be purposefully unequal when it comes to opportunities and access,”
For some local parents, the notion of being “purposefully unequal” is not only unethical and immoral but also potentially illegal.
我家九岁的孩子听了马上之后说,这么做的结果,就是人人都变的又傻又懒。学区领导还不如九岁孩子。
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Update: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/top-u-s-high-school-deprived-students-of-national-merit-awards-as-part-of-equity-policy/
“The report by journalist and activist Asra Nomani links the delay of National Merit awards to Thomas Jefferson high’s equity efforts, and its new “equal outcomes for every student, without exception” strategy. Most of the students who had their award notification delayed were Asian, Nomani reported.”
是按照学校成绩获奖的。没有直说主要是亚洲学生,但可以想得出来。
不会就是针对亚裔学生吧
by definition, 如果 a population does exceptionally well after a certain selection process, then this population was biased against (歧视)in the selection process.
根据PSAT分数各州来确定semi-final,这个奖拿州立或极少数私立大学大全奖半奖奖金(有list),final出来时大学录取己结束。
大概都能猜出来
这是我们都知道啊,可是又能怎么样呢。哎。
Commended 应该是不到semi-final的线的。
补充我们local的报道,拭目以待。
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/fcps-withholds-awards-pays-455-000-for-equity-contractor/article_0bb6c642-86c9-11ed-abbf-cb802353dab6.html
这个头一次听说,还不到semi-final线,也不是太优秀。好高中每年很多人,TJ应该超过100人。
在TJ 估计亚裔过不了这个线的极少
对报好大学一点用也没有
纽约的某个学校吧。东部总出这种歧视亚裔的事
这个commended对TJ的学生上大学不仅没有帮助,反而有反作用。这个校长为什么要隐瞒? 或者是因为national merit隐瞒不了,所以commended student award才发现她隐瞒。如果 national merit不寄给学生,估计她也会隐瞒。现在各个学校都在diversity, 连国会都要推出 两个黑人当speaker/minority leader.
是VA那个全美排名第一的公校。VA的州长是GOP,如果是DEM,不会管。
同不懂这个怎么可以隐瞒?
文章前二段要点如下: - TJ向全校公布了semi finalist 的名单 - Commended 的学生只发了一张证书,据我所知是很像国内那种奖状纸 - 某学生的妈是一律师,出离愤怒,blah blah
我们村大公校也是这么操作的。不管怎样,学生是知道自己得了什么奖的。告不告诉家长就不知道了
Commended 实在是个安慰奖,连Semi finalist都不是每个人都能拿到NMSF scholarship的
今年240人拿到Commended,九月份National Merit要学校马上通知学生,11月14号才通知。这个校长在任五年,1200学生受影响。google到这个:
https://www.city-journal.org/war-on-merit-takes-bizarre-turn
我不了解隐瞒奖学金到底是什么状况,但根据媒体报道的调子,以及州长的发言,这个隐瞒的行为是非常恶劣的。学校自己都承认是错误了。这个没有什么好争论的了吧。
州长是这么说的- “We need to get to the bottom of what appears to be an egregious, deliberate attempt to disadvantage high-performing students at one of the best schools in the country,” Youngkin said. “Parents and students deserve answers and Attorney General Miyares will initiate a full investigation.”
教育局是这么说的。 “Our preliminary understanding is that the delay this fall was a unique situation due to human error,” an FCPS spokesperson said
这么恶劣的行为足以吊销这位校长的教育执照好吗! 你说的第二段,重点不是没有庆祝仪式,而是学生知道这个奖的时候已经too late!!
“having teachers unceremoniously drop the Commended Student certificate on student desks the morning of Monday, Nov. 14, too late to include the honor in students’ early applications for college”
看看是不是硬扯:
In a call with Yashar, Kosatka admitted that the decision to withhold the information from parents and inform the students in a low-key way was intentional. “We want to recognize students for who they are as individuals, not focus on their achievements,” he told her, claiming that he and the principal didn’t want to “hurt” the feelings of students who didn’t get the award.
赶紧去告诉校长,
他的这句话,"we are deeply sorry"是可以在法庭上作为证据的。
On Monday, December 12, after getting caught, Kosatka sent an email to the parents of Commended Students, notifying them of the “important recognition” and saying, “We are deeply sorry” for not sharing the news earlier. He claimed school officials would contact college admissions offices to correct the record.
赞第一手资料。。。。。。。。。。。。
这和以前的种族歧视没有任何不同
太扎华左心了,华左都说民主党对亚裔最好了
两年前VA能翻红,也是一个女孩被transgender强奸了,学校包庇罪犯,爸爸去闹还被抓起来了,左到无耻。
原文里说那个奖状只寄给学校的,如果学校不给学生,学生就不会知道的,不管这个奖对申学校有多少用处,学校隐瞒它因为不想让没得奖的人难过都是不对的
这篇文章有一段没怎么看懂,NMSF九月十六号发信给TJ,没贴足邮资,学校十月中旬才收到?
因为这些为这个校长开脱的自己并没有受到影响,那当然希望别人被影响的越多越好。
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说不上种族歧视,所有人的奖状都迟发了。歧视好学生?也许。能进TJ的都是好学生。现在招生政策变了吗?
看得出还真有人从未经历过种族歧视
有个屁用。整个美国搞垮华裔是最大的政治正确。
能不能做个人啊。你至少把这条新闻完整读完吧。
同意。。。。。。。。。。。。
也许正是因为你跟TJ没瓜葛才这么想吧,TJ的学生老师都觉得not a big deal, 自己学校被人拿出来当枪使了。
招生政策的确与时俱进。。。
你觉得没用就没用吗?这么明目张胆的如果可以逃避责罚。以后有用的一样隐秘怎么办?或者有更下作的手段。你们二级管真让人受不了。
TJ的学生老师都觉得not a big deal? 您倒是觉得自己可以代表TJ的老师学生啊。 就算您代表TJ 的广大学生老师都觉得这不是个事,但可惜您无法代表county教育局啊。教育局特意给全county发信说这是个错误,已经在调查,错误正在纠正。对,从州长到教育局都是小题大作,为了取悦几个难搞的不怎么优秀的学生及其家长。
就是嘛,学生自己是知道的
几个Karen家长觉得没有向学校全体通报表彰就是不尊重他家了
一个垃圾奖也要通报全校?还找上这戏精州长了,乘机大做文章
看了这个贴子,就知道应该再屏蔽哪几个人了。我同意你的观点。这就是打压亚裔。
一看就是因为跟你没瓜葛你不知道,新闻里有学生采访啊,还有学生在会上发言。
TJ的学生是挺惨的,一定要被按头承认被歧视了才行,否则就是傻,没阶级觉悟。一个年级400多人,前100多有奖,后面的240只是晚通知了俩星期,而这些娃根本就没打算把这个所谓的纪念奖放在大学申请里,再说学校不是在给大学打电话解释了吗?去TJ游行示威的有几个TJ 的学生和学生家长啊,你们倒是说说?TJ 学生会把这个安慰奖当回事儿, 你太小瞧他们了吧。
equity这个概念本来就是个荒谬的理念,equal outcome那不就是共产主义吗,干好干坏都一样。还是当年邓小平看的清楚,警惕极右,但主要还是要防极左。
这个奖是有用的。当学校不要看SAT成绩的时候,这个奖至少告诉AO这个学生的成绩靠谱。前两年Pandanmic的时候尤其重要,万一AO想看呢?
Commended? 在TJ 这个奖的意思就是你不是top 30%…
名单不公布,因为人太多了。 但是录取分数是公布的,而分数是唯一标准,所以不需要任何judgement, 孩子自己知道有没有奖,学校发的证书就是个形式化的东西。 当然应不应该发,应该,毕竟是孩子自己考出来的,晚发了几个星期是不是故意隐瞒学生,以至于影响他们的早申,在我看来逻辑行不通。
So what? Engineering school 录取的时候还是要看硬指标的吧。这个显然是个可以用来横向比较的指标。
要看硬指标不看SAT,看这个? 大学录取都是先看生源学校内部排名的。
謝謝解釋 上星期就聽到這個新聞 我還納悶semi finalist 網上都有名單 原來是這個不公布名單的獎狀 了解了
这个奖项,学校有权利依据该校学生成绩水平来决定是否通知获奖情况? 如果不是的话,学校就是传达信息到获奖学生,用不用这个奖项去申请大学,是学生来决定。学校已经侵犯了学生的知情权!
tj不通知是因为只有几十人没有奖? tj不通知是因为他追求results equal 即使只有即使有个有奖,他也不会公布,因为results不equal
有用没用是你隐瞒的理由吗?我就知道会有这样的声音
希望这次的事让这个TJ校长下台。这种毒瘤没有资格在教育界害孩子。 Thomas Jefferson 以前的校长 Dr. Evan Glazer 很好, 后来去了IMSA - Illinois Math and Science Academy 作President,把IMSA 前任的烂摊子收拾得不错。IMSA 前任也是搞很多diversity inclusion equity 的事让IMSA 江河日下。一个糟糕的校长可以把一个好学校积累了几十年的名声一夜毁掉。
头一次听说commended award. 原来还有人care这个。
区别很大吧, 晚通知有些报名都结束了。好像是说故意晚通知来着。学校家长都说了这个家长就是种族歧视
You got it.
这有什么好争的?晚通知到影响了使用就跟不通知一样了啊。不要说你觉得没用就没有影响。
亚裔维权之路漫长,我们华人不要只顾低头内卷,而是要努力维权啊。
如果是这样那确实是不好公布可能会伤害少数几个没得奖的学生,如果大多数没拿奖反而好说。
这件事情受影响最大的是TJ senior, 在学校游行的却都是学校外面的人,有senior 特地在会上发言,认为只是oversight, 但是闹事的家长根本不听。 P.S. 闹事的家长除了那个Karen (非亚裔), 都没有其他亚裔家长。
如果延迟发奖真的如你说是因为几十个人没有奖,tj这种做法确实应该被整顿。大家讨论的本来不是大肆庆祝,而是该发奖没有发奖。奖有没有意义,多少人得了,这些都不是关键,个人没有及时收到就是学校的问题。
TJ做妖不是这一次了吧,之前降低收分标准,靠抽签录取是不是也是这个校长?要是这样,我也支持把校长辞了
这件事情不会让校长下台,要是能的话我绝对支持。 这件事犯错的是学生处的人,校长没有明显过错。最后倒霉的就是一个犯了错的老师而已。 这个错误有多大的影响,值不值得trigger state investigation? 最后倒霉的还是老师学生。
那有需要庆祝,你得告诉学生有不有这个事,由学生决定报不报有不有用,我儿子的朋友申请就写了这个,进了加州理工,至于AO的决定收他这个起作用没有,谁也不知道,但学生认为也许有点用