It’s just it’s much slower to type Chinese accurately on a phone. I thought target audience here will have no problem reading posts in English although some may have difficulty composing one fluently. but the point in my original post holds. That’s pretty much the main message from the attached article. I think you will find it a satisfactory response. I’m sorry if my style offends you. It’s just whom I am sorry about it
I’m pretty sure avoiding those small amount of death during the acute infection is not CCP’s concern not a bit 1 the deaths with acute infection will happen with older and weaker members of the society statistically. Those people CCP never cares about and their death may be a benefit economically 2 the real reason CCP is scared to shitless is the long term damaging effect of the virus on young healthy working age populations. In another words CCP needs to keep the 韭菜 healthy to drive it’s economies and maintain their control of China easy enough right? If I were someone I will probably do the same maybe more
No way to detect latent virus directly in commercial labs currently and there’s no cure so knowing it doesn’t do anything to you however theres a recent paper from Yale Akiko’s lab, suggesting certain bio markers can predict if you have long Covid. Again still very early research and definitely not something you can order from your regular (ignorant) family doctors
不上华人真的不知道有这么多人移民美国，就是为了“第一批被蒸发” no thank you，我还没有自毁倾向 helloterran3 发表于 2022-09-19 20:30
Defeatism at its finest follow这个人逻辑 那的了心脏病也不要做手术 得了癌症也不要治疗 还不如第一时间放弃气化了好 let me tell you the hard truth 哪怕真的有核大战（which I don’t think will happen although as in repeatedly said 80% of the earths current population will die within 20’years but that’s not due to a thermal nuclear war ) 地球不会灭亡 人类也不会绝种 but I can’t say the same about any given individuals
I’m pretty sure avoiding those small amount of death during the acute infection is not CCP’s concern not a bit 1 the deaths with acute infection will happen with older and weaker members of the society statistically. Those people CCP never cares about and their death may be a benefit economically 2 the real reason CCP is scared to shitless is the long term damaging effect of the virus on young healthy working age populations. In another words CCP needs to keep the 韭菜 healthy to drive it’s economies and maintain their control of China easy enough right? If I were someone I will probably do the same maybe more supersleeper 发表于 2022-09-19 19:52
I don’t agree 计划生育 was their long game based on Ma’s analysis. You can argue he’s completely wrong but you can’t say CCP wasn’t aiming for the long game at that time given best it knows. so yes for Covid you can argue CCP is wrong but you can’t dismiss yes they are aiming for the long game maybe THE long game
Defeatism at its finest follow这个人逻辑 那的了心脏病也不要做手术 得了癌症也不要治疗 还不如第一时间放弃气化了好 let me tell you the hard truth 哪怕真的有核大战（which I don’t think will happen although as in repeatedly said 80% of the earths current population will die within 20’years but that’s not due to a thermal nuclear war ) 地球不会灭亡 人类也不会绝种 but I can’t say the same about any given individuals supersleeper 发表于 2022-09-19 20:38
Then why don’t you go out and f any random guys without a condom? Why are you afraid of the sex AIDS but not the airborne AIDS? ph gosh why it’s so difficult to talk to an average person on here do you know there’s a distinction between not wanting something and how to deal with somewhen it happens
No good solutions On the individual level, you either die from the lockdown China style or you die from virus Trump style. if you are unlucky no matter where you are you are just a direct or indirect victim of the virus.
Perfect example of personal responsibilities. you do you Actually not a bad way to deal with things. But only caveat: when the shits hit the fan, don’t blame on anyone but yourself
Defeatism at its finest follow这个人逻辑 那的了心脏病也不要做手术 得了癌症也不要治疗 还不如第一时间放弃气化了好 let me tell you the hard truth 哪怕真的有核大战（which I don’t think will happen although as in repeatedly said 80% of the earths current population will die within 20’years but that’s not due to a thermal nuclear war ) 地球不会灭亡 人类也不会绝种 but I can’t say the same about any given individuals supersleeper 发表于 2022-09-19 20:38
Where does this 80% + 20 yrs come from? How confident are you that you belong to the rest of 20?
哦哦哦哦 现在变成logic induction了 你这一坨截屏啥信息都没 可悲呀 可悲呀 可悲呀
另外这一串回复为什么不用中文 我们这种不是你的目标人群？
十几年时间也很快，到时候再回过头评价不好吗？又没外部势力逼着中国放开，最多是很多中国自己人受不了，你们不如抓紧时间给他们洗脑，发在华人网没用的
It’s just it’s much slower to type Chinese accurately on a phone.
I thought target audience here will have no problem reading posts in English although some may have difficulty composing one fluently.
but the point in my original post holds. That’s pretty much the main message from the attached article. I think you will find it a satisfactory response. I’m sorry if my style offends you. It’s just whom I am sorry about it
非常同意
喜欢清零就回国 不然就呆着 绝大多数人这一生的意义就是活着本身，本末不可倒置 人类从诞生已然携带并且被各种病毒细菌真菌影响和改造着 泰然接受人类的命运呗
我一直以为如果核战争爆发 第一批被蒸发的人是最幸福的 远幸福于末世苟且 如果认为新冠就是另类核战 那就随它去 回避得了吗？ 如果是大号流感 那就也随他去 有必要吗？
you have to know there’s still a way to avoid infections as long as possible while in US and yet still enjoy all the freedoms
its not a dichotomy
中国有10亿人口，假设完全放开，0.001%的感染人群最后会因为感染提前一年死亡，那么晚放开一年，就会有1万人多活一年。 有统计说常用的十种抗肿瘤药物的总收入为670亿美元，而这些抗肿瘤药物只是平均延长肿瘤病人生存期几个月，不到一年。 现在在感染后遗症未知的情况下，能晚放开就晚放开，我觉得经济上来讲同抗肿瘤药比还是挺值的哦。
谭书记用什么来证明它是实验室产物啊！证据呢
I’m pretty sure avoiding those small amount of death during the acute infection is not CCP’s concern not a bit
1 the deaths with acute infection will happen with older and weaker members of the society statistically. Those people CCP never cares about and their death may be a benefit economically
2 the real reason CCP is scared to shitless is the long term damaging effect of the virus on young healthy working age populations. In another words CCP needs to keep the 韭菜 healthy to drive it’s economies and maintain their control of China
easy enough right? If I were someone I will probably do the same maybe more
No way to detect latent virus directly in commercial labs currently and there’s no cure so knowing it doesn’t do anything to you
however theres a recent paper from Yale Akiko’s lab, suggesting certain bio markers can predict if you have long Covid. Again still very early research and definitely not something you can order from your regular (ignorant) family doctors
你能在这几张图里找到two thirds两个词然后看下去么？
现在还没有到我文盲我自豪的时代
你们没商量好吗
https://huaren.us/showtopic.html?forumid=398&topicid=2846448&postid=94649057#94649057
就不告诉你
手动点赞，就是这意思。
不上华人真的不知道有这么多人移民美国，就是为了“第一批被蒸发”
no thank you，我还没有自毁倾向
再这样封下去，不知有多本该查出来的肿瘤病人耽误了去医院而更晚查出来，好好化疗的病人因为医院关闭而不能按时化疗，本该手术的病人不能尽快手术。你可以晚放开，但别耽误正事啊，需要治疗的的及时治疗啊。当然，这些人早点死符合你节省肿瘤药物的理论。
Defeatism at its finest
follow这个人逻辑 那的了心脏病也不要做手术 得了癌症也不要治疗 还不如第一时间放弃气化了好
let me tell you the hard truth 哪怕真的有核大战（which I don’t think will happen although as in repeatedly said 80% of the earths current population will die within 20’years but that’s not due to a thermal nuclear war ) 地球不会灭亡 人类也不会绝种 but I can’t say the same about any given individuals
Ccp想不了那么长远，能想得到的话也不会计划生育了，现在清零政策跟医学跟民生跟未来一点关系都没有，就是那个人想当皇帝，这是他自以为最有力的成就。
I don’t agree
计划生育 was their long game based on Ma’s analysis. You can argue he’s completely wrong but you can’t say CCP wasn’t aiming for the long game at that time given best it knows.
so yes for Covid you can argue CCP is wrong but you can’t dismiss yes they are aiming for the long game maybe THE long game
看生存质量啊，不然为啥有安乐死？如果活着太痛苦，死亡也是解脱。心脏病癌症的某些阶段并没有太大的痛苦，干嘛不治？晚期癌症非常痛苦，确实很多人选择不治了或自杀。
Then why don’t you go out and f any random guys without a condom? Why are you afraid of the sex AIDS but not the airborne AIDS?
ph gosh why it’s so difficult to talk to an average person on here
do you know there’s a distinction between not wanting something and how to deal with somewhen it happens
提前死几十年吧
放开了这些人得上covid死一大半，你又会说他们本来身体就不好不是covid的错，这个游戏美国已经玩两年了
No good solutions
On the individual level, you either die from the lockdown China style or you die from virus Trump style.
if you are unlucky no matter where you are you are just a direct or indirect victim of the virus.
那是早期！！omicron 不一样了啊，怎么还以为是刚爆发的时候呢？上海阳了多少？死了多少？你哪来的数据这些人会死一半？
你说这些没有用，实际上美国绝大多数的人都感染过了，如果这是人类的宿命，我认了。你有理想有毅力相信人定胜天，那就去做那极少数的能一直躲避感染的人，反正这病毒也不会消失了，你一辈子就小心翼翼的过吧。
ACE2...
正确
Perfect example of personal responsibilities.
you do you
Actually not a bad way to deal with things. But only caveat: when the shits hit the fan, don’t blame on anyone but yourself
Where does this 80% + 20 yrs come from? How confident are you that you belong to the rest of 20?