看来很多人是不记得CDC和所谓专家们当时的祸害了 终于找到一篇写这个 timeline 的 纽约三月疫情就很严重了，到四月CDC才改口说要戴口罩 二月三月的时候，无数专家在电视上从各种角度建议大家不要戴口罩，纽约街头戴口罩的华人被殴打 https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-07-27/timeline-cdc-mask-guidance-during-covid-19-pandemic Feb. 29, 2020 U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams tweets that wearing a face mask will not prevent the public from contracting the novel coronavirus. “Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” he wrote in a tweet that was later deleted. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!” March 24, 2020 Even as the coronavirus spreads across the United States — shutting down businesses, sporting events and schools — the CDC’s advice around masking remains unequivocal: Healthy people who do not work in the healthcare sector and are not taking care of an infected person at home do not need to wear masks. “Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers,” the government agency says.
george floyed事件以后 美国就没有社交距离了 其实当时川普立刻开会condemn警察过度执法 就不会造成这么大规模的上街 bettercallsaul 发表于 2022-08-18 11:15
if you think trump is the cause of all the issues or he can solve any of the issues, you are delusional. trump at best is an good actor or a clown if you will. but he had a purpose. he exposed and accelerated all the hidden issues that people didn't pay attention in the past under the left and right political game, he's not going to solve any of those issues, only the people of this country can solve these issues collectively.
but the vaccine is already a very controversial topic now. the pharmaceutical companies made the most of money under the care act. are you going to have your family keep on taking the boosters after boosters?
if you think trump is the cause of all the issues or he can solve any of the issues, you are delusional. trump at best is an good actor or a clown if you will. but he had a purpose. he exposed and accelerated all the hidden issues that people didn''t pay attention in the past under the left and right political game, he''s not going to solve any of those issues, only the people of this country can solve these issues collectively. kikkomenn 发表于 2022-08-18 14:00
那些别人不知道的他编的 那些别人都知道的他拿着大喇叭说出来他是populist 他是个symptoms我很同意 他不是disease本身 但是觉得能solve it collectively 你也是delusional了
我还记得这个二货，刚开始的时候叫大家不要戴口罩，后来又发视频教大家怎么把毛巾折一折，就可以把口鼻遮住当口罩用了。 2020年二三月份的时候，他，Fauci，还有好几个专家都二了八几的叫人不戴口罩。 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Adams In February 2020, Adams was appointed to the task force for dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic.[27] Adams initially downplayed the risk from COVID-19 by comparing it to the flu, which was criticized by experts.[28][29] He also implored people not to buy or use face masks in public because he said they were not effective in preventing the general public from catching the coronavirus that causes COVID-19,[30][31] and that wearing a mask could actually increase the risk of catching the virus.[32] This was in line with other health experts, including Anthony Fauci, who were working on limited information at the time. Fauci 要稍微soft一点 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#COVID-19_pandemic In a March 8, 2020, interview, Fauci stated that "right now in the United States, people [who are not infected] should not be walking around with masks", but "if you want to do it, that''s fine".[42][43] In the same interview, Fauci said that buying masks "could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need" them: "When you think masks, you should think of healthcare providers needing them".[42][44] When Fauci made this comment, America''s top surgical mask maker was struggling to produce enough masks to meet the increased demand.[44] On April 3, the CDC reversed course, quoting recent studies that showed asymptomatic transmission of the virus, thus advocating for the public to wear non-surgical masks to reduce community transmission while Fauci advocated for wearing facial coverings in public.[43] 整个 pandemic 下来，我深刻的理解了为什么美国人普遍性的不相信政府 政府机构 专家 和权威。
那些别人不知道的他编的 那些别人都知道的他拿着大喇叭说出来他是populist 他是个symptoms我很同意 他不是disease本身 但是觉得能solve it collectively 你也是delusional了
bettercallsaul 发表于 2022-08-18 14:50
when you think I am delusional and I think you are delusional, yeah, the problems will continue. Once we overcome this, then things will happen. it takes time, maybe it will take your kids and my kids collectively. the biggest problem with people is they all expect an instantaneous resolution both from left and right.
GOP 总统候选人 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain， 参加了一次川普集会， 不戴口罩， 回去就阳了， 然后就死了。 Cain opposed masking mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic.[108][109][110] He attended the 2020 Trump Tulsa rally on June 20 and was photographed not wearing a face mask in a crowd who also were not wearing masks.[111] On June 29, Cain tested positive for COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic in Georgia and was admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital two days later.[112] On July 2, Cain''s staff said there was "no way of knowing for sure how or where" he contracted the disease.[112] Dan Calabrese, the editor of Cain''s website, said, "I realize people will speculate about the Tulsa rally, but Herman did a lot of traveling [that] week, including to Arizona where cases [were] spiking."[43] Cain died of complications from COVID-19 on July 30, 2020, at the age of 74
我还记得这个二货，刚开始的时候叫大家不要戴口罩，后来又发视频教大家怎么把毛巾折一折，就可以把口鼻遮住当口罩用了。 2020年二三月份的时候，他，Fauci，还有好几个专家都二了八几的叫人不戴口罩。 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Adams In February 2020, Adams was appointed to the task force for dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic.[27] Adams initially downplayed the risk from COVID-19 by comparing it to the flu, which was criticized by experts.[28][29] He also implored people not to buy or use face masks in public because he said they were not effective in preventing the general public from catching the coronavirus that causes COVID-19,[30][31] and that wearing a mask could actually increase the risk of catching the virus.[32] This was in line with other health experts, including Anthony Fauci, who were working on limited information at the time. Fauci 要稍微soft一点 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#COVID-19_pandemic In a March 8, 2020, interview, Fauci stated that "right now in the United States, people [who are not infected] should not be walking around with masks", but "if you want to do it, that''s fine".[42][43] In the same interview, Fauci said that buying masks "could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need" them: "When you think masks, you should think of healthcare providers needing them".[42][44] When Fauci made this comment, America''s top surgical mask maker was struggling to produce enough masks to meet the increased demand.[44] On April 3, the CDC reversed course, quoting recent studies that showed asymptomatic transmission of the virus, thus advocating for the public to wear non-surgical masks to reduce community transmission while Fauci advocated for wearing facial coverings in public.[43] 整个 pandemic 下来，我深刻的理解了为什么美国人普遍性的不相信政府 政府机构 专家 和权威。 purplebasil 发表于 2022-08-18 14:52
不带口罩是WHO的指导方针，各国都认真遵守而已。别把责任责任推到某人身上。 WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick By Jacqueline Howard, CNN Updated 2:24 AM EDT, Tue March 31, 2020
不带口罩是WHO的指导方针，各国都认真遵守而已。别把责任责任推到某人身上。 WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick By Jacqueline Howard, CNN Updated 2:24 AM EDT, Tue March 31, 2020
jt1snd 发表于 2022-08-18 18:24
WHO 名声坏就能洗白美国专家了？一个没有约束力的国际组织而已，美国还真没有义务紧跟。至少当时中国和很多亚洲国家都推荐口罩吧？现在CDC自己都承认有错误了，Fauci后来也承认当时推荐不戴口罩是错误了，不知道给他们洗个什么？一个Covid 把所谓专家所谓CDC所谓WHO的底裤都扒光了。
if you think trump is the cause of all the issues or he can solve any of the issues, you are delusional. trump at best is an good actor or a clown if you will. but he had a purpose. he exposed and accelerated all the hidden issues that people didn't pay attention in the past under the left and right political game, he's not going to solve any of those issues, only the people of this country can solve these issues collectively. kikkomenn 发表于 2022-08-18 14:00
Whether you think the mass should pay attention or not, it's relative to your social class. If you are part of the ruling class on top of the pyramid, you sure don't want the mass to pay attention to anything, you would expect them to keep their heads down and do their job and keep on paying the evergrowing taxes, never question anything and just comply with your rules. I doubt that you are the ruling class in this country. Let's hypothetically say that your son goes to one of the top elite schools in this country, and he gets beat up by another student, whose parent happens to be on the school's board of trustees and is very influential. You complain to the school about the other student, and the school comes to you and tries to "smooth things" out by politely telling you that after their careful investigation, your son is the instigator, and either you keep quiet about the incident, or they will have no choice but to expel your son. How would you or your son feel about the school's "smooth things"?
U.S. offers extra monkeypox vaccine doses for gay pride events https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/us-offers-extra-monkeypox-vaccine-doses-gay-pride-events-rcna43893
but the vaccine is already a very controversial topic now. the pharmaceutical companies made the most of money under the care act. are you going to have your family keep on taking the boosters after boosters? kikkomenn 发表于 2022-08-18 14:32
我也懒得跟你争。我能说出川普抗疫做了什么，比如增加口罩，消毒液，呼吸机生产量，推疫苗，一开始15天的lockdown，把两艘军队医用船送到纽约和加州，派national guard 和 army engineer去需要的地方帮忙（比如造简易医疗设施）。 你不如说说拜登上台以后为了防疫，除了拿只笔签强制令，他做了什么？ 你知不知道2021 die with covid人数大于2020 die with covid人数？你又不知道了吧。 你说你的认知不都是主流那几个反川媒体来的吗？ 我不一定比你强，但是我怀疑新冠疫苗的安全性，我自己也没打，我在网上也没说过它的好话，哪怕这个疫苗是川普推的，我的想法不会因此改变。您呢？ 看了全世界的抗疫路线，我不认为lock down和强制疫苗，甚至强制口罩是好的方针。我的观点来自各个国家从2020开始的观察。您呢？你是根据客观分析得来的想法吗？
so? 美国大部分死于COVID的人都是老人和有基础病的，这些人得感冒也会死 COVID病毒经过不断弱化，现在越来越象感冒或者流感 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
so 车撞死的感冒也会死
德州小学被枪打死的小学生，车祸也可以死
死的有不是CDC官老爷，他们管不着。 不过现在人人都不能幸免。病毒面前人人平等管你是Biden还是Trump
那你回中国静默去好了 那个制度和国情适合你
开始打滚了LOL
我说的就是COVID现在危害跟感冒差不多啊 谁先打滚的？ 你连个跟感冒差不多的病毒都怕得要死，那不只能静默了么？
流感天天死这么多人啊？不是seasonal的吗
当时川普的聚会上好像没有一个人戴口罩。 全世界的口罩当时都被运到中国去了。我记得非常清楚，当时我满世界都买不到口罩，在网上看到很多集装箱的口罩运到了中国，我当时想能给我留一点也好啊。
你去查查 美国flu每年死多少人 在上来打滚好哇？
我家就是自己做的口罩
不戴就不要找理由
现在美国到处是口罩，有人带吗？
全世界很多国家都不戴口罩了，如果不是强迫和害怕，谁愿意戴呢？
Trump 那个级别的要口罩会没有么？ 美国当时是口罩短缺，但也不是一个口罩都没有 CDC当时为了保证医院供给，对全国撒了弥天大谎，叫大家不要买口罩，你不会用反而会害了自己
所以他们covid死了活该？服了你的逻辑！
川普不戴口罩是他自己的问题，也有人想戴却买不到。
我哪里说了活该呀？ 天下病毒那么多，防得过来吗？
CDC说要戴口罩以后，Trmp 过了一阵儿也戴了 一开始是CDC说不要戴
看来你还没享受够打砸抢的威力，居然说警察对毒友执法过度。有本事你住去没有警察的黑人区呗！
是的，其实现在美国已经不可能做什么别的了，病毒会和我们永久共存，但是如果能推动大家尽量戴口罩，减少染病率，和减轻病情，也是一个很好的可持续的方案。戴口罩和穿裤子一样，根本没那么可怕。只是这样病人少了，医疗资本还怎么卖疫苗卖药，收天价账单啊？所以他们必然要阻挠，聪明的人就应该自己戴口罩，蠢的只好得病受苦了
看来很多人是不记得CDC和所谓专家们当时的祸害了 终于找到一篇写这个 timeline 的 纽约三月疫情就很严重了，到四月CDC才改口说要戴口罩 二月三月的时候，无数专家在电视上从各种角度建议大家不要戴口罩，纽约街头戴口罩的华人被殴打
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2021-07-27/timeline-cdc-mask-guidance-during-covid-19-pandemic
Feb. 29, 2020 U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams tweets that wearing a face mask will not prevent the public from contracting the novel coronavirus. “Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” he wrote in a tweet that was later deleted. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!”
March 24, 2020 Even as the coronavirus spreads across the United States — shutting down businesses, sporting events and schools — the CDC’s advice around masking remains unequivocal: Healthy people who do not work in the healthcare sector and are not taking care of an infected person at home do not need to wear masks. “Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers,” the government agency says.
if you think trump is the cause of all the issues or he can solve any of the issues, you are delusional. trump at best is an good actor or a clown if you will. but he had a purpose. he exposed and accelerated all the hidden issues that people didn't pay attention in the past under the left and right political game, he's not going to solve any of those issues, only the people of this country can solve these issues collectively.
估计水平高的都去混 企业或真正搞学术了吧？ 象 Fauci 这种一辈子在政府部门混， 真无语阿。
现在病毒毒性减弱了很多， 当普通流感对待也不是不可以， 但欧美的错误是病毒厉害的时候也没真正对待过。
反科学， 肯定就会有人付出代价。
说的就跟是川普自己掏腰包似的， 赶紧醒醒吧。 换个猪在台上， 当时美国的疫情也不会这么差, 因为猪搞竞选集会， 没人会去。
川普拉力贡献了好多病毒传播。 民主党好多了， 拜登的集会现场没几个人， 都是线上的多。 所以上智商还是有差别的。 狗屁党智商明显低很多。
but the vaccine is already a very controversial topic now. the pharmaceutical companies made the most of money under the care act. are you going to have your family keep on taking the boosters after boosters?
拜登以为强制疫苗就是抗疫呢。。。连辉瑞的CEO都骗自己，专家都在胡说八道。
那些别人不知道的他编的 那些别人都知道的他拿着大喇叭说出来他是populist 他是个symptoms我很同意 他不是disease本身 但是觉得能solve it collectively 你也是delusional了
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Adams
In February 2020, Adams was appointed to the task force for dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic.[27] Adams initially downplayed the risk from COVID-19 by comparing it to the flu, which was criticized by experts.[28][29] He also implored people not to buy or use face masks in public because he said they were not effective in preventing the general public from catching the coronavirus that causes COVID-19,[30][31] and that wearing a mask could actually increase the risk of catching the virus.[32] This was in line with other health experts, including Anthony Fauci, who were working on limited information at the time.
Fauci 要稍微soft一点
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#COVID-19_pandemic
In a March 8, 2020, interview, Fauci stated that "right now in the United States, people [who are not infected] should not be walking around with masks", but "if you want to do it, that''s fine".[42][43] In the same interview, Fauci said that buying masks "could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need" them: "When you think masks, you should think of healthcare providers needing them".[42][44] When Fauci made this comment, America''s top surgical mask maker was struggling to produce enough masks to meet the increased demand.[44] On April 3, the CDC reversed course, quoting recent studies that showed asymptomatic transmission of the virus, thus advocating for the public to wear non-surgical masks to reduce community transmission while Fauci advocated for wearing facial coverings in public.[43]
整个 pandemic 下来，我深刻的理解了为什么美国人普遍性的不相信政府 政府机构 专家 和权威。
when you think I am delusional and I think you are delusional, yeah, the problems will continue. Once we overcome this, then things will happen. it takes time, maybe it will take your kids and my kids collectively.
the biggest problem with people is they all expect an instantaneous resolution both from left and right.
Cain opposed masking mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic.[108][109][110] He attended the 2020 Trump Tulsa rally on June 20 and was photographed not wearing a face mask in a crowd who also were not wearing masks.[111] On June 29, Cain tested positive for COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic in Georgia and was admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital two days later.[112] On July 2, Cain''s staff said there was "no way of knowing for sure how or where" he contracted the disease.[112] Dan Calabrese, the editor of Cain''s website, said, "I realize people will speculate about the Tulsa rally, but Herman did a lot of traveling [that] week, including to Arizona where cases [were] spiking."[43] Cain died of complications from COVID-19 on July 30, 2020, at the age of 74
都是自己蠢死的。
science is science, truth does not lie.
白等连做戏都不肯
是阿， 奥巴马说过川普连假装抗疫都不干， 还蛮有道理的。
sigh. 还有这么多人抱臭脚， 真是可怜阿。 拜登至少装模作样了好几个月。 LOL
美国出什么幺蛾子最后都是承认就好了。有的地方不认错呢。
这种论点也真的很掩耳盗铃。
知道就会有这个角度舔，果然翻了3楼就有了。不管啥新闻都是土共做的不好啊，呵呵。
不带口罩是WHO的指导方针，各国都认真遵守而已。别把责任责任推到某人身上。
WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick By Jacqueline Howard, CNN
Updated 2:24 AM EDT, Tue March 31, 2020
再过一阵，同样的铺天盖地告诉你为什么要给乌克兰那么多钱。
每天打开电视，每个台基本说着同样的话。
醒醒吧，不要吵了，别人想让你听到什么，你就只能听到什么。
这种洗脑也是让我目瞪口呆， 太厉害了！韭菜们掌握信息有限，可不就被割的命。
说良心话,联邦总统认真做戏就可以,州长责任更大吧。可惜川普也就演了那两场好戏,其他就乱演了,什么Chinese virus, just a flu,年轻20岁之类的。他要能像Biden认真戴个口罩,估计也能连任。
川普说了注射清洁液后就停止新闻发布会了
6 feet 是因为飞沫传染的距离一般到6Feet 就落到地下了。
WHO 名声坏就能洗白美国专家了？一个没有约束力的国际组织而已，美国还真没有义务紧跟。至少当时中国和很多亚洲国家都推荐口罩吧？现在CDC自己都承认有错误了，Fauci后来也承认当时推荐不戴口罩是错误了，不知道给他们洗个什么？一个Covid 把所谓专家所谓CDC所谓WHO的底裤都扒光了。
政客第一要素是不要脸，要点脸的人都爬不上去。
我就记得川普政府拿了一个厚厚的空白书出来。不干事就算了，但不能这麽把大家当傻子骗吧。这事后来怎么解释的？ 我没follow。
CDC有community risk map上面写了high risk 推荐室内口罩。 写成这样也算是仁至义尽了吧 各州政府都不强制， CDC能做什么 CDC 确实问题大，但这个community risk map 办的是不错的。
CDC自己承认过：缩短隔离时间是因为经济和复工压力。翻译一下，就是政治压力。 虽然CD C guidelines 没有强制力，很多企业和学校是根据它的guidelines 来制定自己的政策的，所以guidelines 也不是完全废话。
6ft是气溶胶颗粒抛物线运动的长度。 你学习一下空气动力学😄
同意，至少能认错
嗯， 像你这样的， 文化越多越愚昧。 CDC 的好多专家都是博士文凭吧？
再加上你这个物理博士就更完美了。
（亏你还懂空气动力学）
这个6feet是非常扯淡的
想想, 美国的花粉过敏. 那么大的花粉都不会在6feet落地, 何况比花粉小的飞沫?
以前就听专业人士说过，CDC大量雇员都是医学相关专业，但是拜AA所赐，能混进医学院，智商和努力程度到底无法考过board，不得已纷纷转入这种机构，制定医疗政策。于是美国的公共卫生管理水平每况愈下。新冠初期口罩短缺，是奥巴马政府处理H1N1时用光了库存、缺乏监管机制及时补充库存；初时更是不允许各地自行检测，也是H1N1时的遗留政策，是华大实验室冒违法之险私下开始快速检测，后来华州依托于华大，从最早的疫区转为率先缓解疫情的州。新冠两年多以来各种荒谬的指导、屡次三番地打脸，CDC和福奇是最应该对这场疫情的蔓延和久治不下问责的。
为什么要expose？ 如果能解决的问题 expose 就是好的。 如果这些问题就是不可调和的，谁都解决不了的， 总统就是活活稀泥，把矛盾弄小一点，让这些矛盾大家不pay attention 就很好了。
弗洛伊德这事，我儿子原本支持川普，因为他是个逆反的teen,和周围人对着干的。 这件事情之后他也不支持了，认为川普不是smooth things， 反而总是激化矛盾。 他是对比了学校，对于两个小孩子打架的时候的处理方法。
这个部门加上整个疫情完全就是政治化了。美国很多人都是政府说什么就做什么。越是高学历的越听话。特别是初期的时候。刚刚开始时 我的老板 西北医学院毕业的医生 还是华裔 天天跟我争辩不需要戴口罩 洗手保持距离就好。然后我怎么劝说让她还在口罩没有紧张时以诊所名义购买 就是死活不听。后来还是我在华人网上募捐了一批口罩直接寄给诊所渡过前面最难的几个月。
说起福奇更是忍到我自己都佩服自己。这个老头是我前同事的舅爷天天在哪里吹捧他 还说当时怎么给她写推荐信实习。我心里有千万只草泥马奔腾而过 不过还是忍住了 跑了出去上楼去干活去了。
欧美文化天然抗拒口罩， 也是打到了他们的短板。 亚洲文化接受口罩毫无压力。
有了心里上的抗拒， 需要很强的说服了才行。 新冠这样的致死率看来还是说服不了他们。
我上学时的目标是who或者cdc的。结果一趟州政府实习我就赶紧打住了。美国政府很多部门就是养老机构。加上家里人反对我学流行病学以传染病主打，所以我退学换专业了。流行病学还是欧美起源的 本来公共卫生管理就是提高健康指数的为前提的 可惜败给了官僚
当年CDC装模作样招机场防疫人员，又要public health 学位，又要讲中文，还要到亚特兰大培训，估计人上岗的时候中国已经成病例最少的国家了。
根本不是，100年前西班牙flu美国人都乖乖戴口罩 根本原因是医疗资本利益，CDC也反，政客故意挑事，拿自由说事，结果就犟上了，要是从上到下用推疫苗的力量推口罩，推广口罩毫无压力，疫苗这种打了会发烧几天痛苦万分，还死了几万人的事都可以推得动，戴口罩有什么推不动的
嗯 是的。被洗脑了。 第一第二个月初期我是第一个在自己朋友圈里带头做步口罩送朋友 那个CDC的流行病学者还让我给她和家人做了一套。但是她就是屁都不敢说一句戴口罩有用。一个以前认识人现在是教授怼我说布口罩没有用。一个研究而已。其实那个研究我有看过。我怼他说 97%没有用那么起码我降低了3%感染了 哈哈。后来他自己在脸书上发文说大家不戴口罩怎么怎么不安全。跟我老板一样 对口罩接受的时间线跟CDC的一模一样。
黑白颠倒的文革行为还不能说了? 幸亏有Trump揭漏了皇帝新衣, 不然人们大众都一个个被卖了还美呢.
疾控中心防疫各类传染病成百上千，新冠只是众多P3类中的一种，今天热门的猴豆近亲天花也只是三级。四级中有著名ebola. 国内各种传染病很多， 肝炎肺结核Aids. 美国培训中国疾控人员有十几年历史，上次SARS前就有了。
这次疫情中cdc表现实在很糟糕， 失去别人信任很容易， 重建信任比登天还难。
6 feet是有科学根据，你这个属于外行话。很长时间，WHO对传染病的social distancing的规定是3 feet。这是根据研究，我们打喷嚏咳嗽时候的droplet一般3 feet 以上就失效了。这是根据一个很久以前哈佛的研究：https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/20/3/611/280025?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false。这是半个世纪以上的标准。但是2003年SARS开始的时候，研究发现3 Feet 可能不够（研究https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa031349），所以标准提高到6 feet.
当然等新冠大流行的时候，后来又发现新冠病毒可以通过气溶胶传播，但这已经很后面了。但提高social distancing更多也不切合实际，就有mask mandate之类的推荐了。所以6 feet不是随便想想规定的，而是有科学研究在背后。当然史无前例的新冠不断打破我们对已知病毒流行病的认知，我们包括CDC对这个病毒的理解也是个渐进的过程。
不学医也知道戴口罩是常识呀
从那一刻起，我就知道了结果，也知道了原因。
因为现任大统领是各界精英背书最能抗疫又有主媒保驾护航的啊，当年各路牛鬼蛇神纷纷跳出来呼吁川普让贤让更能抗疫的拜灯上台，因为拜灯显然是抗疫专家，人蹲地下室，百毒莫近
川普争取到的宝贵时间全被CDC浪费掉了
Whether you think the mass should pay attention or not, it's relative to your social class. If you are part of the ruling class on top of the pyramid, you sure don't want the mass to pay attention to anything, you would expect them to keep their heads down and do their job and keep on paying the evergrowing taxes, never question anything and just comply with your rules. I doubt that you are the ruling class in this country.
Let's hypothetically say that your son goes to one of the top elite schools in this country, and he gets beat up by another student, whose parent happens to be on the school's board of trustees and is very influential. You complain to the school about the other student, and the school comes to you and tries to "smooth things" out by politely telling you that after their careful investigation, your son is the instigator, and either you keep quiet about the incident, or they will have no choice but to expel your son. How would you or your son feel about the school's "smooth things"?
欧美文化天然抗拒口罩 -- not true https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/56348351
没让你当地球球长委屈你了。你这么远见卓识没早点想到我们愚民不容易教化？应该早有预备方案啊
这舔出了新水平
所谓智者千虑阿， 谁会想到你每天都蠢出一片新天地。
哪你说说多少尺合适，恐怕就只有你想用尺子精确到6尺，谁白痴一目了然
说你白痴是在夸你。你没见过医院， 商场， 各种用游标卡尺量出来的站位吧？ 光在井底里是看不到外部的世界的。 愚昧至极。
6 feet 是美国抗疫的典型标志， 充满了愚昧， 自欺欺人， 掩耳盗铃， 狐假虎威， 井底之蛙， 自高自大。
当然， 你这样愚昧的你体会不到其中的妙处的。 不戴口罩是简单的愚昧， 6ft 是充满了科学精神的愚昧， 没有博士以上学位的估计不一定制定出这样的抗疫规定。
这个猴痘应该问题不大， 传染性没那么高。
U.S. offers extra monkeypox vaccine doses for gay pride events
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确实是，让有些人戴口罩就象扒了他们的裤子一样
你批评川普你也找点实际的东西批评。
川普不抗疫？疫苗谁推动的？大量生产口罩，呼吸器，消毒液谁推动的？
你就说说拜登做了什么？除了强制疫苗，拜登做了什么？
传染性不高，都能搞成这样。 按照这个趋势，情况只会更严重 得了猴痘的好处就是可能终生免疫，不会来回的传染
我个人反对新开发的新冠疫苗，我也没打。但是不代表川普没做事。讨厌川普的不管是左派还是主党，最大的问题就是一点credit都不愿意给川普。所以现在他们说的话毫无credit。却不认为是自己的问题。
疫苗是川普推的。他自己也打了，还上电视宣传了。但是GOP base大多数人不喜欢这个疫苗，所以发生他推疫苗的时候被台下嘘了，也被很多人批评过。
我不知道讨厌川普的人是不是都是左派。这不重要了。但是人家也没有杀人放火强奸掳掠，没有逻辑的恨，自己可能觉得自圆其说，其实旁人听着就觉得没有逻辑。
你就不要洗地了好不？ sigh. 还这么愚昧的执拗不误。
非得拿着病毒到处撒才叫不抗疫吗？ 怎么这么多愚昧无知的。
川普要是有半点真心抗疫， 至于到处搞五万人集会集中力量传播病毒吗？ 你的良心还在吗？
一开始物资出现严重问题，谁解决的？你就说说拜登上台以后除了搞意识形态，靠着一支笔强迫这个强迫那个，对于生产物资，运输物资问题，他实际解决了什么？
不过就是媒体帮着cover，让你产生错觉罢了。
如果是川普执政期间出现物流问题，媒体天天讨论天天骂，你的印象又不一样了。
你对拜登和川普的印象不过是来自于主流几个媒体给你塑造的。拜登上台以前天天讨论covid，天天说covid死了多少人。你知道2021死的人（with covid)，比2020多吗？你不知道了。因为主媒不会天天给你灌输。所以你无感。你对2020死去的人特别有感，对2021死去的人无感，说穿了就是媒体想要你有感，你有感了，媒体不让你有感，你就没感了。
你说你对拜登和川普的印象是不是就是跟着媒体走？
我也懒得跟你争。我能说出川普抗疫做了什么，比如增加口罩，消毒液，呼吸机生产量，推疫苗，一开始15天的lockdown，把两艘军队医用船送到纽约和加州，派national guard 和 army engineer去需要的地方帮忙（比如造简易医疗设施）。
你不如说说拜登上台以后为了防疫，除了拿只笔签强制令，他做了什么？
你知不知道2021 die with covid人数大于2020 die with covid人数？你又不知道了吧。
你说你的认知不都是主流那几个反川媒体来的吗？
我不一定比你强，但是我怀疑新冠疫苗的安全性，我自己也没打，我在网上也没说过它的好话，哪怕这个疫苗是川普推的，我的想法不会因此改变。您呢？
看了全世界的抗疫路线，我不认为lock down和强制疫苗，甚至强制口罩是好的方针。我的观点来自各个国家从2020开始的观察。您呢？你是根据客观分析得来的想法吗？
我一没骂人，二没说脏话。你自己不想理性讨论才受不了不同的意见。
他们这帮人最怕的就是理性讨论，要的就是媒体大肆渲染制造恐慌让人们无法理性思考， 给还在摇摆中的人造成peer pressure，受他们的控制。雇佣一帮水军把各个网站搅和得乌烟瘴气，给主党洗地，黑trump，甩锅CDC.
物资出问题其实还是靠中国恢复生产解决的，美国吹了半天的国防生产没生产出几个口罩呼吸机，福特的口罩生产线跟BYD一比就是个作坊。