根据白宫幕僚长事后写的回忆录Trump是在9月26日那天晚上也就是白宫聚会庆祝大法官提名的同一天确诊的，所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。参加那次活动其他人是否是在室外感染的也很难说，那天的聚会除了在室外举行的仪式外还有在白宫室内不戴口罩大家拥挤在一起的招待会，不少人是有可能在室内感染的。 不是说室外不可能感染，而是说同样的距离间隔的话室内的感染的风险比室外大多了。 Attendees were so confident that the contagion would not invade their seemingly safe space at the White House that, according to Jenkins, after guests tested negative that day they were instructed they no longer needed to cover their faces. The no-mask mantra applied indoors as well. Cabinet members, senators, Barrett family members and others mixed unencumbered at tightly packed, indoor receptions in the White House’s Diplomatic Room and Cabinet Room. ytwk11 发表于 2022-07-22 18:04
根据白宫幕僚长事后写的回忆录Trump是在9月26日那天晚上也就是白宫聚会庆祝大法官提名的同一天确诊的，所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。参加那次活动其他人是否是在室外感染的也很难说，那天的聚会除了在室外举行的仪式外还有在白宫室内不戴口罩大家拥挤在一起的招待会，不少人是有可能在室内感染的。 不是说室外不可能感染，而是说同样的距离间隔的话室内的感染的风险比室外大多了。 Attendees were so confident that the contagion would not invade their seemingly safe space at the White House that, according to Jenkins, after guests tested negative that day they were instructed they no longer needed to cover their faces. The no-mask mantra applied indoors as well. Cabinet members, senators, Barrett family members and others mixed unencumbered at tightly packed, indoor receptions in the White House’s Diplomatic Room and Cabinet Room.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html As of July 2021, “long COVID,” also known as post-COVID conditions, can be considered a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Learn more: Guidance on “Long COVID” as a Disability Under the ADA, Section Estimates of the proportion of people who had COVID-19 that go on to experience post-COVID conditions can vary: 13.3% at one month or longer after infection 2.5% at three months or longer, based on self-reporting More than 30% at 6 months among patients who were hospitalized
Germany's COVID-19 summer spike pushes nurses beyond their limits German hospitals are struggling as beds fill up and nursing staff falls ill with COVID. Even freshly trained health care workers complain about unsustainable levels of stress and worsening conditions. Relaxed regulations meet a new omicron variant Over the last two years, COVID-19 infections have dropped during the summer, when people spend more time outside. This has meant a reprieve for health workers during the warmer months. But this year is different. Case numbers are rising even in summer and the health system is already approaching its limits, according to the Marburger Bund doctors' association. While in early June the 7-day incidence rate was the lowest it had been all year, numbers have since spiked rapidly. One explanation is the new BA.5 virus subvariant. Even more contagious than previous variants, experts say that it could spread rapidly well into summer. Those who have been vaccinated or already recovered from an omicron variant infection aren't safe. Two-thirds of COVID infections are now attributable to the BA.5 subvariant. The spread has been facilitated, as authorities have relaxed prevention measures. People in Germany are no longer subject to contact restrictions or mask requirements in most public spaces. Many are also traveling and attending events once again.
美国各地对疫情的态度从来都 相差很大。没啥奇怪的。旧金山湾区和加州总体在美国算是最谨慎的地区之一了。不少大都市区也差不多。 很多人想继续在家工作。 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/21/san-francisco-slow-recovery-from-covid-is-struggle-for-small-business.html The office vacancy rate in San Francisco rose to 24.2% in the second quarter from 23.8% in the prior period, according to CBRE research.
Bay Area commuters who take public transportation still prefer to stay home. The average daily ridership on Bay Area Rapid Transit plunged from over 400,000 in 2019 to under 80,000 last year. As of May, the number had ticked up to close to 136,000 per weekday, according to BART’s website. Manhattan reached an all-time high in the quarter of 15.2%. Downtown Atlanta is at 22.8%, Chicago hit 21.2%, Los Angeles touched 21.8% and Seattle is at 20.3%, CBRE said.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html As of July 2021, “long COVID,” also known as post-COVID conditions, can be considered a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Learn more: Guidance on “Long COVID” as a Disability Under the ADA, Section Estimates of the proportion of people who had COVID-19 that go on to experience post-COVID conditions can vary: 13.3% at one month or longer after infection 2.5% at three months or longer, based on self-reporting More than 30% at 6 months among patients who were hospitalized sanba919 发表于 2022-07-21 21:06
另一德国主要媒体 https://www.morgenpost.de/politik/article235904455/marco-buschmann-corona-selbstbestimmung-gaspreise-interview.html INTERVIEW Corona: Buschmann announces the return of the mask requirement Updated: 07/15/2022, Federal Minister of Justice Marco Buschmann (FDP) expects the mask requirement to return. A summer wave is rolling across the country: the number of corona infections is increasing, the intensive care units are filling up, more people are dying again. How long do you want to watch, Mr. Buschmann? Marco Buschmann: We don't watch. We are able to act at any time, even with the applicable rules. The summer wave is already losing momentum. But we have to take very seriously what awaits us in autumn and winter. We are preparing thoroughly for this. I am confident that we will have a concept at the end of the month, which we will then discuss with the federal states in August, and in September we will bring the amendment to the Infection Protection Act through parliament. We don't waste any time. They absolutely wanted to wait until there was a scientific evaluation of the corona measures. Was it worth it? Buschmann: The independent experts should give us an overview of what we know about the effectiveness of the measures taken so far. This is very difficult with some measures, and you can't blame the scientists for that. It is now our political task to draw conclusions from this. We are curious. Buschmann: The effectiveness of masks for individuals indoors is undisputed. That is why some form of wearing masks indoors will certainly play a role in our concept. We are already working with mask requirements in local public transport. And it is very important to me that we finally get better data from the hospitals. The previous government missed a lot. It is intolerable that we have to speculate too much because we don't have enough data. Above all, we need to be able to better distinguish between who is in the hospital with Corona and who because of Corona. A clear assessment of the situation helps to predict the danger. Is the mask requirement the only corona rule that you don't block yourself against? Or do you also agree to contact and access restrictions? Buschmann: Karl Lauterbach and I will present a good concept. In many things we are already on the right track. We will make a proposal that takes three things into account. First: We will create clear and understandable rules. Second: The measures are proven to help. And thirdly: the rules protect fundamental rights, i.e. they are proportionate.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view?list_select_state=all_states&list_select_county=all_counties&data-type=CommunityLevels This site provides an integrated, county view of key data for monitoring the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States. It allows for the exploration of standardized data across the country. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-06-10/cdc-67-of-americans-should-be-wearing-masks-indoors-or-considering-it CDC: 67% of Americans Should Be Wearing Masks Indoors or Considering It The percentage of Americans who should be wearing masks in public indoor spaces under CDC guidance is increasing as the U.S. averages more than 100,000 new coronavirus cases each day. The majority of Americans should be wearing masks while in indoor spaces or considering the measure, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As of Thursday, more than 67% of the population was in a “high” or “medium” COVID-19 community level – a measure determined by new coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and hospital capacities.
过去防疫，旧金山湾区7县几乎至少是与洛杉矶地区同步。这次落后了。 如果入院情况不改善，洛杉矶县在1星期后就要求在室内必须带口罩。 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/COVID-mask-coronavirus-counties-health-17313545.php COVID-19 case numbers are surging, hospitalizations are up and at least one California county — Los Angeles — is moving toward a new indoor mask mandate. But the Bay Area isn’t planning to follow suit, at least not yet. Health experts in the region say that approach makes sense for now. County health departments across the Bay Area told The Chronicle they have no plans to resume requirements that people don masks in indoor public places. They haven’t set benchmarks for when that might or should happen. The story is different in Los Angeles County, the nation’s most populous, where public health officials said they’ll return to indoor masking requirements as of July 29 unless the number of COVID hospitalizations drops.
在防疫方面，加州往往是走在全美的前面。南加州出现过非常严重的疫情，也就是有过很大的教训，因此走在了加州的前面。San Diego地区的学区又有了必须戴口罩的要求。 https://www.newsweek.com/california-mask-mandate-returns-schools-says-wear-masks-stay-home-1725931 California Mask Mandate Returns as Schools Says Wear Masks or Stay Home BY KHALEDA RAHMAN ON 7/19/22 AT 11:02 AM EDT An indoor mask mandate has been reinstated for students and staff in the San Diego Unified School District amid rising COVID-19 cases. Across the country, the latest COVID-19 surge is being driven by the highly transmissible BA.5 sub-variant, prompting concerns that it could mean a return of broad indoor mask mandates in cities. The school district''s decision to reinstate indoor masking came after San Diego County moved into the "high" category of community transmission set by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines. Indoor masking will be required at all schools and district offices for at least two weeks, the district said in a letter on Friday.
根据白宫幕僚长事后写的回忆录Trump是在9月26日那天晚上也就是白宫聚会庆祝大法官提名的同一天确诊的，所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。参加那次活动其他人是否是在室外感染的也很难说，那天的聚会除了在室外举行的仪式外还有在白宫室内不戴口罩大家拥挤在一起的招待会，不少人是有可能在室内感染的。 不是说室外不可能感染，而是说同样的距离间隔的话室内的感染的风险比室外大多了。 Attendees were so confident that the contagion would not invade their seemingly safe space at the White House that, according to Jenkins, after guests tested negative that day they were instructed they no longer needed to cover their faces. The no-mask mantra applied indoors as well. Cabinet members, senators, Barrett family members and others mixed unencumbered at tightly packed, indoor receptions in the White House’s Diplomatic Room and Cabinet Room.
疫情从来就没有离开我们的生活，因此很多人还在带口罩，很多人仍然在家里工作。一波波的疫情培养出了更多更多变异，几个月后就有个新的主要变种在作怪，这种周而复始看上去还没有到尽头。这次主要是BA5还有与它很近的姐妹BA4。
有些非新冠住院人也与从前得过有关系。不少人由于得过新冠而健康状况明显不如从前。
旧金山的情况： 旧金山的新冠住院人数从四月的20左右上升到130。 https://sf.gov/data/covid-19-hospitalizations
加州的情况 https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19HospitalsDashboard/Hospitals?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no
还可以查看各地的测阳率是否提高了。 加州最近7天的测阳率是1/6。正常情况下应该在1/20左右。 https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/
而有些地区的疫情在较晚的时候才会被领头地区带动起来。
全美情况 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/article/covid-hospitalization-hot-spots-across-u-s-five-charts-n1285965
🔥 最新回帖
“所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。”
应该是。。。看到这里就是呵呵了。一笔糊涂账。
我上面已经说过了，关键就是social distance呀。室内室外都是一样，都会感染。只能说室内更不容易保持距离。
我上海的家人朋友也说，这次封城纯粹是地方政府早期的不作为加中期的犹犹豫豫造成的人祸。
我说有人用“封城”偷换概念，不是从楼主来的！ 再说了既便是从楼主接话，最多是跑题，还不是第一个跑题的！
根据白宫幕僚长事后写的回忆录Trump是在9月26日那天晚上也就是白宫聚会庆祝大法官提名的同一天确诊的，所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。参加那次活动其他人是否是在室外感染的也很难说，那天的聚会除了在室外举行的仪式外还有在白宫室内不戴口罩大家拥挤在一起的招待会，不少人是有可能在室内感染的。
不是说室外不可能感染，而是说同样的距离间隔的话室内的感染的风险比室外大多了。
Attendees were so confident that the contagion would not invade their seemingly safe space at the White House that, according to Jenkins, after guests tested negative that day they were instructed they no longer needed to cover their faces. The no-mask mantra applied indoors as well. Cabinet members, senators, Barrett family members and others mixed unencumbered at tightly packed, indoor receptions in the White House’s Diplomatic Room and Cabinet Room.
🛋️ 沙发板凳
美国这次如果要大爆，很可能要到8月以后，尤其是在开学后。
这里不可能把人关起来的。 纽约800万人口，死亡率你看一下图：
那张图的尾巴是不准的。死亡是一小部分，而被新冠侵害的很大一部分人会有长期健康问题。况且死亡曲线本身就比住院曲线要晚1个月左右。
如果只看一个图，那就应该是住院人数。
我去巴黎伦敦旅游，已经完全没有人带口罩了。欧洲那么密集的地方全民不带口罩。医疗资源没听说挤兑。如果有后遗症，难道全民傻瓜？反而回到美国后很多带口罩的。
对于欧洲那么密集的地方全民不带口罩你不更担心？ 那些开出租的，服务员，如果经常感染或者同事经常感染也应该会有一部分人吓得带口罩，事实是一个带的都没有。
绝大多数欠发达地区吧。一二线城市基本都被封了一两遍了。
走自己的路，让别人说去吧😂
有点，但除了 人口密集大城市，美国大部分地方 照旧，尤其 “大农村”， 我们的医院 还是 没啥重的，远远不如 1月份！
不是的。 有些一、二线城市只是部分封。上海开始也是，疫情大爆完全失控后才全封。
对的，室内游乐园人山人海的，还是尽量暂时避免一下。我们covid以来host和参加的小朋友生日party基本都是要么自己家后院pool party，要么就是studio那种人少的（就我们一个party）。就那样，还有一些家长会比较concerned about covid安全。
我家十八线小县城封城➕半封城三次以上，全员核酸得有十遍以上，有几个月需要连续隔天核酸，全是强制，要不然没绿码不能出门上班。
不知道楼主家是多偏远的地区，居然如此岁月静好
被全封的地方比例很低，因此全国绝大多数人口所在的生活区才没有由于有疫情而被封。重庆和成都没有被全封过吧？我前面提到：我和我老婆父母所在的城市都是“新一线”。地理位置比那2个城市的交通更发达。
如果上海早就搞半封，就不会有后来的大爆发而做那种全封了。
如果你家离边境线较近，或者在曾经出现过严重疫情区的地方，那就不奇怪。比如，瑞丽可能是全国被封最长最多的地方。黑龙江也有个差不多的。
国内现在封控分得越来越细了。过去，城市里一个高/中风险区通常是一个区，一般最小的会是一个社区或者街区，而现在大多只是几栋楼甚至更小或者类似的一小块/片。
住院人数以前很准，现在其实也不准了，很多是因为别的原因住院然后测出covid的，要看有多少人是真的因为covid住院才行。
麻省：不到三分之一的住院是for covid，其他的都是with covid
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/covid-19-response-reporting
建议 大家多看德语媒体。
德国新闻 早就不报道疫情了。
另外 德国卫生部长 都不提 疫情了。 所以无所谓了。
德国的人口密度比美国 中国 大很多很多倍。
德国的媒体比较客观。
大家注意 德语媒体就可以了。
为欧洲担心还不如为印度巴西担心
全民傻瓜有问题么？英国现在3%人口因为long covid不能工作，慢慢来，这个数一年加1%，50年也就一半人口不能工作
普通老百姓脑子不好使被政客资本家牵着鼻子走的占绝大多数。
请问长期健康问题的结论是从哪儿来的？
你自己不关心，是不会有政客花钱把这个信息推到你眼前的，虽然搜索一下也能搜到
没搜到大部分有长期影响的文章，你如果有能甩个链接吗？
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html
As of July 2021, “long COVID,” also known as post-COVID conditions, can be considered a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Learn more: Guidance on “Long COVID” as a Disability Under the ADA, Section
Estimates of the proportion of people who had COVID-19 that go on to experience post-COVID conditions can vary: 13.3% at one month or longer after infection 2.5% at three months or longer, based on self-reporting More than 30% at 6 months among patients who were hospitalized
欧洲是做得最烂的一个地方。与新冠相关的死了近2百万。什么时候变成有些人的模范了？
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-covid-19-summer-spike-pushes-nurses-beyond-their-limits/a-62476217
Germany's COVID-19 summer spike pushes nurses beyond their limits German hospitals are struggling as beds fill up and nursing staff falls ill with COVID. Even freshly trained health care workers complain about unsustainable levels of stress and worsening conditions.
Relaxed regulations meet a new omicron variant Over the last two years, COVID-19 infections have dropped during the summer, when people spend more time outside. This has meant a reprieve for health workers during the warmer months. But this year is different. Case numbers are rising even in summer and the health system is already approaching its limits, according to the Marburger Bund doctors' association. While in early June the 7-day incidence rate was the lowest it had been all year, numbers have since spiked rapidly. One explanation is the new BA.5 virus subvariant. Even more contagious than previous variants, experts say that it could spread rapidly well into summer. Those who have been vaccinated or already recovered from an omicron variant infection aren't safe. Two-thirds of COVID infections are now attributable to the BA.5 subvariant. The spread has been facilitated, as authorities have relaxed prevention measures. People in Germany are no longer subject to contact restrictions or mask requirements in most public spaces. Many are also traveling and attending events once again.
在第一页就讨论过了。最近7天的报告是不完整/的。
大领导发话，马上夏季休假高峰，不管大家去全世界哪里浪，一定要做好病毒防护，口罩还是应该戴😿
是生活在美国吗？
很多人想继续在家工作。
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/21/san-francisco-slow-recovery-from-covid-is-struggle-for-small-business.html The office vacancy rate in San Francisco rose to 24.2% in the second quarter from 23.8% in the prior period, according to CBRE research.
Bay Area commuters who take public transportation still prefer to stay home. The average daily ridership on Bay Area Rapid Transit plunged from over 400,000 in 2019 to under 80,000 last year. As of May, the number had ticked up to close to 136,000 per weekday, according to BART’s website.
Manhattan reached an all-time high in the quarter of 15.2%. Downtown Atlanta is at 22.8%, Chicago hit 21.2%, Los Angeles touched 21.8% and Seattle is at 20.3%, CBRE said.
也只有这里。
德国媒体 从2月份 俄罗斯侵略乌克兰到现在
都不报道疫情了
国内最近也是此起彼伏，老百姓怨气非常大。这么打地鼠也不是长久之计啊。
根据这个数据，小部分有问题，大部分都没事啊。
https://www.morgenpost.de/politik/article235904455/marco-buschmann-corona-selbstbestimmung-gaspreise-interview.html
INTERVIEW Corona: Buschmann announces the return of the mask requirement Updated: 07/15/2022,
Federal Minister of Justice Marco Buschmann (FDP) expects the mask requirement to return.
A summer wave is rolling across the country: the number of corona infections is increasing, the intensive care units are filling up, more people are dying again. How long do you want to watch, Mr. Buschmann? Marco Buschmann: We don't watch. We are able to act at any time, even with the applicable rules. The summer wave is already losing momentum. But we have to take very seriously what awaits us in autumn and winter. We are preparing thoroughly for this. I am confident that we will have a concept at the end of the month, which we will then discuss with the federal states in August, and in September we will bring the amendment to the Infection Protection Act through parliament. We don't waste any time.
They absolutely wanted to wait until there was a scientific evaluation of the corona measures. Was it worth it? Buschmann: The independent experts should give us an overview of what we know about the effectiveness of the measures taken so far. This is very difficult with some measures, and you can't blame the scientists for that. It is now our political task to draw conclusions from this. We are curious. Buschmann: The effectiveness of masks for individuals indoors is undisputed. That is why some form of wearing masks indoors will certainly play a role in our concept. We are already working with mask requirements in local public transport. And it is very important to me that we finally get better data from the hospitals. The previous government missed a lot. It is intolerable that we have to speculate too much because we don't have enough data. Above all, we need to be able to better distinguish between who is in the hospital with Corona and who because of Corona. A clear assessment of the situation helps to predict the danger. Is the mask requirement the only corona rule that you don't block yourself against? Or do you also agree to contact and access restrictions? Buschmann: Karl Lauterbach and I will present a good concept. In many things we are already on the right track. We will make a proposal that takes three things into account. First: We will create clear and understandable rules. Second: The measures are proven to help. And thirdly: the rules protect fundamental rights, i.e. they are proportionate.
1%意味着好90多万人口；2.5%意味着200多万人口；13.3%意味着上千万人口。那些是由于：美国累积的上报的感染数是9000多万。
看英国就行了，总人口的3%，不是感染人数的3% 美国不统计就没有
安大略省截至周四，已经有1483名新冠患者入院接受治疗，比一周前的985人显著增加。 其中126人在重症病房，上周四时的重症人数是118人。现在有55人需使用呼吸机，比一周前的28人翻了近一倍。 目前的住院人数也是自5月11日以来的最高值。
上周安省实验室通报的PCR检测阳性率已达14.9%，到了本周一时，阳性率进一步升高至16%。今天的阳性率为15%。 安省新冠顾问研究组根据废水监测数据预测，整个大多伦多地区、安省中西部区域的病毒含量仍在上升
借贴问户外party大家感觉还好吗？总归还是要讲话吃东西。最近有个户外party在想是不是不举行了，邀请别人会不会被偷偷骂。
大家口罩戴起来，可能的话顺便打第四针吧 我觉得最有意思的就是每次去店里买东西倒是年轻白左小青年喜欢戴口罩，其他大爷大妈到不怎么戴。小年轻本来重症概率就低
当然了，你不关心疫情，是生活在美国么？
能说明啥？ 前两年也人山人海，还有直接在从迪士尼回家的飞机上去世的
呵呵。。。现在关心疫情的是那个大国大家都知道，你这话只能说明你自己。
我觉得户外小型聚会还是可以的，大家知根知底的 我家孩子的户外活动从来没停过，也会跟朋友们在室外吃吃喝喝，都还好
啥时候是个头
夏令营，旅游各种活动，人员的交错比上学的时候还要杂。其实估计就亚裔还在乎， 不觉得要到开学，应该应该再次群免了
自由世界啊，大家都是用自己的行为投票。你这么担心，回中国去就好了呀。还是说你现在就在中国？那我们墙外人的事儿就用不着你担心了。
这么多人出来对疫情话题反感，也许是由于这个网站的人并非生活在美华人/中国人最集中的几个大都市区的人比较多？那些人就没想过自己认同的行为过去发生过，被证明实际是在推动疫情发展？就没想过欧洲的过去的防疫抗疫基本上还不如美国？而且，回头看，几大波疫情都是在欧洲大发展后，美国疫情才大起。向欧洲看齐是很糟糕的事情。
其实，在一个多月前，CDC就已经提醒民众要多加防备了。虽然CDC犯过大错（包括：最开始说普通民众不需要戴口罩），但比一些反防疫的普通民众（尤其在很多保守地区的民众）更知道经验和教训的重要是一直存在的事实。
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view?list_select_state=all_states&list_select_county=all_counties&data-type=CommunityLevels This site provides an integrated, county view of key data for monitoring the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States. It allows for the exploration of standardized data across the country.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-06-10/cdc-67-of-americans-should-be-wearing-masks-indoors-or-considering-it
CDC: 67% of Americans Should Be Wearing Masks Indoors or Considering It The percentage of Americans who should be wearing masks in public indoor spaces under CDC guidance is increasing as the U.S. averages more than 100,000 new coronavirus cases each day.
The majority of Americans should be wearing masks while in indoor spaces or considering the measure, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As of Thursday, more than 67% of the population was in a “high” or “medium” COVID-19 community level – a measure determined by new coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and hospital capacities.
变种永远都在，生活要继续，除非地球灭亡。
楼主谈在美国大家周围疫情抬头，您谈国内如何。谁在偷换概念？
你这种言论是某种人群的一个典型/标准/代表性的回答，在网上不断地被“重复”。不能够讨论具体的内容，而把话题转向对“对手”的个人化。
扣帽子谁不会啊？
照您的荒唐逻辑，也可以说：您不担心，是不是因为您不在美国？是不是您现在就在中国？那我们墙外人的事儿您当然不担心了。
风言风语是因为疲了，而且见过了经历过了。。。 我们家前两个月开始不戴口罩了，每周末都去密集的地方旅游，吃饭。 最近上华人看着看着又把口罩戴起来了，喊家人们戴，都有些不情愿。
口罩恐惧症患者 比 新冠恐惧症患者 更不可思议
在news下，google “bay area wearing masks“
如果入院情况不改善，洛杉矶县在1星期后就要求在室内必须带口罩。
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/COVID-mask-coronavirus-counties-health-17313545.php
COVID-19 case numbers are surging, hospitalizations are up and at least one California county — Los Angeles — is moving toward a new indoor mask mandate. But the Bay Area isn’t planning to follow suit, at least not yet. Health experts in the region say that approach makes sense for now. County health departments across the Bay Area told The Chronicle they have no plans to resume requirements that people don masks in indoor public places. They haven’t set benchmarks for when that might or should happen. The story is different in Los Angeles County, the nation’s most populous, where public health officials said they’ll return to indoor masking requirements as of July 29 unless the number of COVID hospitalizations drops.
确实，其实很多人得真的是自愿的，所以真的得了自己负责
自愿什么？ 多少人被动卷入， 一批人到处浪还不带口罩。 现在是死猪不怕开水烫， 没辙了
https://www.newsweek.com/california-mask-mandate-returns-schools-says-wear-masks-stay-home-1725931
California Mask Mandate Returns as Schools Says Wear Masks or Stay Home BY KHALEDA RAHMAN ON 7/19/22 AT 11:02 AM EDT
An indoor mask mandate has been reinstated for students and staff in the San Diego Unified School District amid rising COVID-19 cases. Across the country, the latest COVID-19 surge is being driven by the highly transmissible BA.5 sub-variant, prompting concerns that it could mean a return of broad indoor mask mandates in cities. The school district''s decision to reinstate indoor masking came after San Diego County moved into the "high" category of community transmission set by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines. Indoor masking will be required at all schools and district offices for at least two weeks, the district said in a letter on Friday.
有个名词Covid fatigue用来描述这种防疫疲痨反常识现象。
但这里有些人的言论让我想起2年前比较强烈反口罩的很多人的同种言行，而且有些“新”的很个人化内容。
好专业的洗地技术 举个例子看看国内哪个城市还没被封控？哪个城市不要强制核酸
你先说说哪个大城市没封过吧，举个例子这么难。看看是不是个别。一线北上广深都封过了，你看看还有啥二线城市
病毒还能分清户内户外？难道到了户外病毒就消失了？
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.28.20029272v2 这不是常识吗？室外传播的风险比室内低20倍
北京没有过城市范围内的封控，都是有感染病例的各个小区封控，如果所在小区没有出现病例就没有封控。我父母，公婆，爷爷奶奶所在的几个小区都没有经历过封控。
也有可能不那么好测出来？国内都是天天测，测好多天才测出来有的人
感觉这个世界彻底变了，以前打夏天哪有流感啊。flu season是9月到次年四月，现在可好了，大夏天整天病，敢问这不是covid related，还是什么呢？
川普是怎么感染的？ 欢迎大法官的party不就在室外？还是每个人都测试了的情况下。
版上不是也有好多disney玩了回来感染的。
MM注意下 快速测验盒新变种有假阴弱阳趋势，一定要多等一会儿
个人亲测
在非常肯定中标（症状明显）情况下我测了anti-gen，15min那种 等了10几分钟， 阴性， 随手丢进垃圾桶
过了半天家人传来一阵惨呼， 谁测得阳性丢进垃圾桶不说？
一看是我非常确定一条杠的试纸，居然出现模糊的第二条杠
之后同样的事迹在家人身上又发生一次
室外和人保持距离还是安全的。disney室外人挨人人挤人的密度太大了。
绝大多数被封了的城市是这种情况，是部分被封。我从一开始就提到了这点，但有些人就是要坚持说到处都是上海那种情况。我也提了：上海如果提早就封部分区，也就不至于后来完全失控而大爆发。做得早，有些城市（比如包头就有一次）只封了1-2星期就清零了，基本属于是预防性封，因为被证明是并没有扩散开；扩散较大或严重的才被全封，几乎都会在1个月内做到在社区清零；而上海长达3个月，是开始不作为而变得特别严重失控造成。
现在国内的“高风险区”和“中风险区”分得比几个月前细多了，而且不知什么时候增设了（至少在几个月前没有的）“低”风险区。封控会做得越来越细致/局域化。 http://bmfw.www.gov.cn/yqfxdjcx/risk.html
我是新人。这个网站有相当多的人在多个美国疫情主题里冷言冷语，往往第1句话就开始提国内怎样怎样糟糕。而国内绝大多数人的生活区从来没有被封的实际情况却完全被忽略。
最可笑的是说/问： 1.你一定在国内。（我本可以随便就说回去，而且更合理：你一定不在我生活的地区，全美防疫意识最强的一个地区。） 2.为什么不回去？（我本可以说，而且更合理：因此我没有生活在你的生活区，也不会去上海那种不负责任的地方。是不是我也可以问：怕封为什么不移到远离边境的偏僻地方？不喜欢防疫较严，为什么不从过去和将来都要根据疫情会要求大众在室内戴口罩的发达地区搬离到一些特别保守/偏僻的地区？）
是，这个呼吸传染，关键就是social distance呀。室内室外都是一样。只能说室内更不容易保持距离。
明明就是讨论在这儿的大伙儿周围疫情的状况，有些人就是要去拿中国出来说事，而且一定要找他们觉得中国不好的地方出来比。
这些人就是觉得说出中国不好，她们比较爽，估计也觉得能让她们的对手（要怼的对象）不爽。和这种人去争中国究竟是咋样的，没啥意义。
不喜欢就别看，别人还不能自由表达了？ 你不爱看我还爱看呢，希望华人网友常常相互提醒，才更有动力防护
二级管又来了
要我说你们就应该去英国加入最反智最爱被宰割的劳动阶层
根据白宫幕僚长事后写的回忆录Trump是在9月26日那天晚上也就是白宫聚会庆祝大法官提名的同一天确诊的，所以他应该是在那天的室外庆祝活动之前就感染了。参加那次活动其他人是否是在室外感染的也很难说，那天的聚会除了在室外举行的仪式外还有在白宫室内不戴口罩大家拥挤在一起的招待会，不少人是有可能在室内感染的。
不是说室外不可能感染，而是说同样的距离间隔的话室内的感染的风险比室外大多了。
Attendees were so confident that the contagion would not invade their seemingly safe space at the White House that, according to Jenkins, after guests tested negative that day they were instructed they no longer needed to cover their faces. The no-mask mantra applied indoors as well. Cabinet members, senators, Barrett family members and others mixed unencumbered at tightly packed, indoor receptions in the White House’s Diplomatic Room and Cabinet Room.
我说有人用“封城”偷换概念，不是从楼主来的！ 再说了既便是从楼主接话，最多是跑题，还不是第一个跑题的！