A hospital in Central Texas told a physician not to treat an ectopic pregnancy—which is not viable—until it ruptured. https://t.co/2dchhnJFtT — The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) July 17, 2022
回复 90楼baicaiye的帖子 Because you can die any moment. Should you drive to New.Mexico and the hopes your ectopic pregnancy doesn't blow up in the next 14 hours?
At least three medical facilities in Texas have counseled doctors that they should not treat pregnant women with certain complications because they might run afoul of the state’s abortion ban, according to the Texas Medical Association. The group says a hospital in Central Texas told a physician not to treat an ectopic pregnancy—which is not viable—until it ruptured. “Delayed or prevented care in this scenario creates a substantial risk for the patient’s future reproductive ability and poses serious risk to the patient’s immediate physical wellbeing,” the association said in a letter to regulators, according to the Dallas Morning News. Two other hospitals are reportedly telling doctors that if a woman’s water breaks too soon in the pregnancy they should just send her home to wait for the fetus to come out. source：https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/07/14/texas-hospitals-fearing-abortion-law-delay-pregnant-womens-care-medical-association-says/
很可惜，参议院通不过的。 House passes first bills to restore abortion rights post-Roe v. Wade https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/house-passes-abortion-bills-post-roe-era/#app The House voted on a pair of bills aimed at restoring abortion rights nationwide in Democrats' first legislative response to the Supreme Court's landmark decision overturning Roe v. Wade. The Women's Health Protection Act of 2022 passed the House with a vote of 219-210 and is an updated version of a bill the House passed in September to enact the right to an abortion and prohibit states from imposing limits on abortions that could make them more difficult or costly to obtain. The Senate failed to pass a version of this bill in May. The bill has little chance of becoming law because it lacks sufficient support in the 50-50 Senate. Yet voting marks the beginning of a new era in the debate as lawmakers, governors and legislatures grapple with the impact of the court's decision. The House also passed a measure to ban states from interfering with a woman's right to travel to obtain an abortion, the Ensuring Access to Abortion Act. It passed 223-205 but is also likely to fail in the Senate.
At least three medical facilities in Texas have counseled doctors that they should not treat pregnant women with certain complications because they might run afoul of the state’s abortion ban, according to the Texas Medical Association. The group says a hospital in Central Texas told a physician not to treat an ectopic pregnancy—which is not viable—until it ruptured. “Delayed or prevented care in this scenario creates a substantial risk for the patient’s future reproductive ability and poses serious risk to the patient’s immediate physical wellbeing,” the association said in a letter to regulators, according to the Dallas Morning News. Two other hospitals are reportedly telling doctors that if a woman’s water breaks too soon in the pregnancy they should just send her home to wait for the fetus to come out. source：https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/07/14/texas-hospitals-fearing-abortion-law-delay-pregnant-womens-care-medical-association-says/ Suess123 发表于 2022-07-17 14:19
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/15/texas-hospitals-abortion-laws/ The request comes as confusion and concerns abound among Texas medical professionals over what they can and cannot do under Texas’ abortion ban. Beyond elective abortions, there are several situations in which a doctor might advise an abortion for the safety of the patient — including ectopic pregnancies, in which a fertilized egg grows outside of the uterus, making it unviable — or provide other stabilizing treatments during hypertension and preeclampsia. Delays in treatment can cause serious health complications. But in a post-Roe world, physicians in states where abortion has been banned have to weigh the legal implications of their actions, instead of making decisions based on what prevailing medical literature recommends. In Texas, doctors can face six-figure fines and be put in jail for any disallowed abortions. According to the Morning News, the TMA included in its letter examples of some cases in which treatment was denied or delayed but did not name specific hospitals. In Central Texas, a physician was allegedly instructed to not treat an ectopic pregnancy until a rupture occurred, which puts patient health at serious risk, the letter says.
A hospital in Central Texas told a physician not to treat an ectopic pregnancy—which is not viable—until it ruptured. https://t.co/2dchhnJFtT — The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) July 17, 2022
德州孕产妇因为怀孕相关的死亡率是加州的7倍 https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state California has the lowest maternal mortality rate of 4.0 deaths per 100,000 births. Texas (34.5 per 100k) 在美国是倒数的。 美国这个maternal mortality 在发达国家是倒数的。发达国家基本都和加州差不多是个位数。美国只有不多的几个州是个位数 美国最糟的就是最黑暗的路易斯安那。 那比德州还黑。Louisiana (58.1 per 100k) 死亡率是加州十倍。
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你能证实这个是谣言你就发一下证据 不要老让别人帮你取证 别人没那么义务懂吗
认真的看了两遍。没有看懂你在说啥。。。 你的意思是说，你是和党但是你反对和党那种极端反堕胎的policy 吗？而且大部分和党其实也都是这个想法？
Because you can die any moment. Should you drive to New.Mexico and the hopes your ectopic pregnancy doesn't blow up in the next 14 hours?
Doctors talk to each other. It has happened.
黄右: 只要还没轮到自己都是fake news
🛋️ 沙发板凳
黄右们别在加州纽约啥的缩着，都去德州生孩子啊
他们会跟你说都是假的假的，左派无良媒体造谣。
Idaho州的堕胎法，这几天有人提议增加一个特例，就是在母亲生命受到威胁的时候可以豁免，讨论了半天，投票，GOP绝大多数反对。这些人有没有想过，孕妈妈死了，胎儿还能活吗？
哦，对了，Ohio的一个法律快要生效了，内容是，医生必须把宫外孕的胎儿给移植到子宫里， 不然以杀人罪论处。据权威医生说，这样的手术还没有成功的案例。
孕妇是没有人权的，在gop的眼里。
简直是回到一千年前了 愚昧无知还邪恶。
黄右们说了，一辈子才能怀几次娃？娃不能爬藤可是影响一辈子的事
有的時候真的覺得GOP腦子被驢踢了
女人是没有人权的，在神棍眼里
医生估计琢磨搬家了吧
告也没用。法官不也是他们的人吗
你搬德州试试不就知道了？
你是说自显低智商？还是说，是对低智商的侮辱？
我觉得网上爆出来这种传言，想要叫大家相信这个操作很侮辱网友智商。
我查了这个新闻的来源，并没有任何一家媒体能指名道姓地说是哪一个医院有这样的操作。宫外孕不治疗的结果是孕妇会死，这种事情医院是会赔死的，就算医院冷血不照顾产妇的情况，从最名声和钱包的角度来看，这个新闻的可信程度我觉得有待考证。
你觉得有用吗？即使这次Indiana医生堕胎手术前上报了，但是Indiana的AG也昧着良心说她没上报
第一这不是谣言，消息来源是TMA，比你家川总的true media可靠多了
第二，为什么黄右看到自己不喜欢的新闻就激发“独立思考”， 却连个国会暴乱的hearing都不愿意去听呢？
明白了，原来是你在侮辱低智商
狗屁党搞出来的法案经常侮辱智商 只不过gop base看不出来而已
跟他们”独立思考”出来的结论不同的hearing有什么好听的
他们的base也觉得脑残时，只能安慰自己不是真的不是真的
source：https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/07/14/texas-hospitals-fearing-abortion-law-delay-pregnant-womens-care-medical-association-says/
The House voted on a pair of bills aimed at restoring abortion rights nationwide in Democrats' first legislative response to the Supreme Court's landmark decision overturning Roe v. Wade.
The Women's Health Protection Act of 2022 passed the House with a vote of 219-210 and is an updated version of a bill the House passed in September to enact the right to an abortion and prohibit states from imposing limits on abortions that could make them more difficult or costly to obtain. The Senate failed to pass a version of this bill in May. The bill has little chance of becoming law because it lacks sufficient support in the 50-50 Senate. Yet voting marks the beginning of a new era in the debate as lawmakers, governors and legislatures grapple with the impact of the court's decision. The House also passed a measure to ban states from interfering with a woman's right to travel to obtain an abortion, the Ensuring Access to Abortion Act. It passed 223-205 but is also likely to fail in the Senate.
有些base就坚持极左更可怕 厕所lgbtq……
他们会坚定地告诉你俩字 厕所！
我觉得这种文章没有很大的可信度，首先，certain complications 没有明确。其次，哪一个医院哪一个医生干的不给宫外孕治疗？脱离上下文的语句我个人不会轻易相信。
你可以给出具体的医院，作为女性一员，我非常愿意打电话发邮件过去谴责。
你可以给出是哪家医院和更多地信息？ A hospital, A doctor, an organization, 这个操作的空间就很大了。
别人给的信息你不信 就自己去调查研究呗 支持你去联系TMA和德州媒体
并没有给出什么具体信息，全是a hospital 不拉布拉....
没有必要说出来是哪个医院 因为哪个医院的法律顾问都会是同一个意见。 Texas medica association是五六万个医生的大协会，不会捏造事实的。
这个估计孕妇救回来也不能再生育了。 胎心降到一定数值以下孩子就会出大问题，非要等到胎心绝对测不到了再干预，不光是孕妇生理上的巨大风险，心理上也是巨大trauma啊。
你是阅读理解不太行吗？你自己不会去问tma和德州媒体吗？
厕所文学看多了 脑子不好使了
excuse me? 现在是哪个世纪啊？号称地球是圆的人不会被马上拉到广场烧死了吧？
宫外孕一旦大出血就很急，没法去其他州。只能在医院附近等着。但是不大出血的时候也无法知道什么时候大出血。
为什么不能马上飞到别的州去手术？人命关天随时的
私人飞机么？ 随时候着 不是每个人都有财力可以这么做的。 何况gop的目标就是全国禁。 等他们拿到2院多数，废弃filibuster，就可以立法了。就跟当年简单大多数就要废除affordable care一样。
真的是难以置信，我自己有过一次宫外孕，发现得早，打针就好了，但是整个过程还是非常难受和焦虑，因为第一针下去，数值降不下来，还在长，每天测，又打了第二针，幸好没有需要做手术，整个过程担惊受怕，还加上严重孕反应，有没有迎接新生命的喜悦，几乎半年才缓过来 我难以想象确诊了宫外孕，不在最早的时候干预，把伤害降到最低，还有等到孕妇快死了，这是真的吗，真的吗，投票的人有一点点良知吗
看前面我贴的、众议院通过法案可以去其他州，不过通不过参议院的
仔细说说？
查出来宫外孕普通做法都是立即处理包括打针手术等等。坐飞机在路上大出血就完蛋了还不如留在本地。
华人川粉也是受过社会主义教育的，跟宗教里泡大的神棍相比还有点极端不彻底。
我觉得快了
别张口就来，我在纽约，早期发现宫外孕，立马打了针，每天检测，没听说医生会不治的，
Ohio 这谁提议的，这么猪脑子。我不喜欢Ohio，这下又多一个理由了。
RE 当年我宫外孕的时候医生明确说不让travel，因为不知道哪一分钟会爆 而且根据处理方式和时间，结果有可能大不同，比如说本来打针可以治疗的，拖延之后搞不好不仅要手术还要切除输卵管
所以是谁轻一点，谁重一点呢?
随时可能大出血出人命的，怎么旅行?
"我在纽约“
？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？出处
多年前这版上的大妈们一致要保守派大法官上台。。。。如愿以偿来了6:3
怎么也没让哈佛收50%华裔呢？ 怎么也没人管厕所呢？ 大妈的智慧
前两天新闻指名道姓被谴责，现在不指名道姓又被说是假的 掩耳盗铃
看你是不是育龄妇女呗
我在兰州都在害怕GOP老白男要全国禁止堕胎。。。
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/15/texas-hospitals-abortion-laws/
The request comes as confusion and concerns abound among Texas medical professionals over what they can and cannot do under Texas’ abortion ban. Beyond elective abortions, there are several situations in which a doctor might advise an abortion for the safety of the patient — including ectopic pregnancies, in which a fertilized egg grows outside of the uterus, making it unviable — or provide other stabilizing treatments during hypertension and preeclampsia. Delays in treatment can cause serious health complications. But in a post-Roe world, physicians in states where abortion has been banned have to weigh the legal implications of their actions, instead of making decisions based on what prevailing medical literature recommends. In Texas, doctors can face six-figure fines and be put in jail for any disallowed abortions. According to the Morning News, the TMA included in its letter examples of some cases in which treatment was denied or delayed but did not name specific hospitals. In Central Texas, a physician was allegedly instructed to not treat an ectopic pregnancy until a rupture occurred, which puts patient health at serious risk, the letter says.
从川普被选上的那刻起就觉得一直都是
川皇拿到GOP总统提名，真是目瞪口呆。GOP烂到根儿上了。
这个时候更加不能让川普当总统
感觉美国要完蛋了，一个疯子川一个傻子拜 你说你选哪个
看看这最高法院，感觉未来几十年都完了
为什么病人不选择离开找别的医院甚至别的州呢？真是…自己的命自己要决定。而且如果医院误导的话是不是也可以找律师狠拿一笔啊
会死在路上
California has the lowest maternal mortality rate of 4.0 deaths per 100,000 births. Texas (34.5 per 100k) 在美国是倒数的。
美国这个maternal mortality 在发达国家是倒数的。发达国家基本都和加州差不多是个位数。美国只有不多的几个州是个位数
美国最糟的就是最黑暗的路易斯安那。 那比德州还黑。Louisiana (58.1 per 100k) 死亡率是加州十倍。
那就只能找傻子啦，不是给了原则吗？好疯子>好傻子>坏傻子>坏疯子
宫外孕还是很多的，每100个怀孕就会有两个， 我朋友亲人都遇到过， 都是很紧急立刻做的手术， 很难想象还要找飞机飞到其他州， 太危险了。
那么高的通胀率，选傻子也受不了，应该有一个第三党
今天看到AP这篇文章整个人都不好了，楼上说假新闻的不是蠢就是坏。