这个楼主在隔壁发了言后，又自己开了个楼忽悠人了。 我把我的的帖子搬过来。 你这个简直是堂而皇之瞎解释高院的判决。我建议网友对这种“通俗一语中的的方式送总结一下”的帖子保持警惕，自己去查看。 “取消规定警察必须告知Miranda rights warning“ 这是胡乱解释。 The June 23 decision bars lawsuits against police for using evidence obtained without advising people of their rights – the ‘Miranda’ warnings 。。。 也就是说，你不能因此起诉警察，而不是说取消Miranda。 事实上，在大法官的判决里还指出，the court''s ruling still allows a victim in a similar situation to suppress the improperly obtained evidence at trial. 也就是说，没有Miranda，你不能告警察，但你的律师还是可以要求法庭把非法取得的证据suppress Wow，又一个瞎说的 纳税人税款必须拨款给宗教学校 哪有必须！ 相反， ruling does not require states to offer funding to religious schools if they don’t already fund private schools. 也就是说， 如果一个state已经同意纳税人的拨款给私人学校，他们不能够把宗教学校单独剔除。 如果州政府没有计划给私人学校拨款，就不需要拨款给宗教学校。
再说说这条 禁止州规范枪支安全 也是整个胡乱解释。 更本不是说禁止州规范，而是说纽约州的现有规范违宪。 高院反对纽约把“sensitive places”的定义扩大到整个地区。 The court said it would likely accept courthouses, schools and government buildings as sensitive places, but would frown on applying the label broadly. The ruling explicitly warned lawmakers they could not do anything that would effectively make the entire island of Manhattan a sensitive place. 因为这个，纽约的议员们紧急开会，看如何修改法律可以符合高院的判决。 如果是禁止州规范枪支安全，那还改个屁啊。
这有什么问题？ KBJ是Protestant Christian，对着Bible宣誓是不是很正常。 信伊斯兰教的可以用可兰经作为宣誓，这届众议院就有很多议员这么做的。 事实上，都没有任何规定你宣誓的时候必须把手发在任何东西上。 无神论的人就可以这么做。我们的宪法就规定“no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
说得对。高院现在在美国就是扮演了一个终身总统的角色。这是不对的。高院这次判决，是一次法理上的拨乱反正。川普的死对头、自由派领军人物金斯伯格大法官，女权和女性堕胎权的坚决支持者，是公开反对Roe v. Wade判例的。她认为把堕胎权收归联邦层面，从根本上动摇了美国立法和司法之间的独立，更一针见血地指出，堕胎权实际是一个医学问题和经济问题，而非女权问题。
以前没有判例，那是因为有Roe VS Wade顶着。 现在没有了Roe，你想要的判例马上就会有了。已经有很多州比如阿肯色禁了几乎所有堕胎，包括rape/incest。这个可不是中文媒体。哪怕你说的德州心跳法，rape 和 incest 也是不允许的。你自己可以做做research。 什么德州法官没胆子顶风作案，法律在那里，法官当然这么判。 看看州长的话吧： On September 7, 2021, Governor Abbott asserted that the Act does not force raped women to carry pregnancies to term because the state would "work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets" 看看像话吗？ 我们的法律不是强迫被强奸的妇女必须生小孩，因为我们会尽全力把所以强奸犯都抓起来，所以妇女同志不要担心。问题是法律抓强奸犯都是after the fact，难道德州警察有预测能力？
说得对。高院现在在美国就是扮演了一个终身总统的角色。这是不对的。高院这次判决，是一次法理上的拨乱反正。川普的死对头、自由派领军人物金斯伯格大法官，女权和女性堕胎权的坚决支持者，是公开反对Roe v. Wade判例的。她认为把堕胎权收归联邦层面，从根本上动摇了美国立法和司法之间的独立，更一针见血地指出，堕胎权实际是一个医学问题和经济问题，而非女权问题。 anning1941 发表于 2022-06-30 15:54
是的。 “My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights. “Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”
回复 150楼surge的帖子 送给细节派：这个是我看第五联邦法庭上诉律师总结的其他20多个判案，细节派要不要仔细研究下看看有啥刺可以挑一下 Today marks the end of what is surely one of the worst terms in #SCOTUS history. Guns and prayer and abortion got most of the attention. But that''s not all the Court did. Here are just some of the Court''s bad decisions: 1/25 Rivas-Villegas -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for using excessive force 2/25 Tahlequah v. Bond -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for killing a man 3/25 Shoop v. Twyford -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 4/25 Brown v. Davenport -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 5/25 Shinn v. Ramirez -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 6/25 Zubaydah -- SCOTUS allowed the Govt to withhold information about torture on CIA black sites 7/25 Vaello-Madero -- SCOTUS denied SS benefits to residents of Puerto Rico 8/25 Cummings -- SCOTUS disallowed recovery for emotional-distress damages in civil rights lawsuits 9/25 Patel -- SCOTUS stripped federal courts of jurisdiction to review fact issues in immigration proceedings 10/25 Biden v. Missouri -- SCOTUS blocked a federal vaccine mandate 11/25 Garland v. Gonzalez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'' access to a bond hearing 12/25 Johnson v. Arteaga-Martinez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'' access to a bond hearing 13/25 FEC v. Ted Cruz -- SCOTUS struck down campaign finance restrictions to enable Ted Cruz to pay himself back for loans he made to his own campaign 14/25 Egbert v. Boule -- SCOTUS further limited a person''s ability to sue federal officers (Bivens actions) 15/25 Vega v. Tekah -- SCOTUS weakened enforcement of Miranda rights 16/25 Carson v. Makin -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, forcing states to fund private religious schools 17/25 Kennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist. -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, allowing football coach to have public/publicized Christian prayers at football games 18/25 Denezpi -- SCOTUS recognized tribal sovereignty just enough to allow an Indian defendant to be prosecuted twice for the same crime (no double jeopardy), then... 19/25 Castro-Huerta -- SCOTUS undermined tribal sovereignty by making tribal land "part of state" and allowing state to exercise jurisdiction on tribal land 20/25 Bruen -- SCOTUS struck down NY''s 100yo restriction on concealed carry to expand 2A and limit gun restrictions 21/25 U.S. v. Texas -- SCOTUS allowed Texas''s "bounty hunter" antiabortion law to go into effect 22/25 Dobbs -- SCOTUS overruled Roe & Casey, eliminating the federal right to abortion and enabling severe (life-threatening) restrictions on abortion to go into effect 23/25 West Virginia v. EPA -- SCOTUS undermined the EPA''s ability to regulate emissions and fight global warming 24/25 And it must be noted that this isn''t everything. SCOTUS also did things on the shadow docket -- like allow Louisiana''s racial gerrymander to stay in effect for the 2022 election, etc.
回复 150楼surge的帖子 送给细节派：这个是我看第五联邦法庭上诉律师总结的其他20多个判案，细节派要不要仔细研究下看看有啥刺可以挑一下 Today marks the end of what is surely one of the worst terms in #SCOTUS history. Guns and prayer and abortion got most of the attention. But that''''s not all the Court did. Here are just some of the Court''''s bad decisions: 1/25 Rivas-Villegas -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for using excessive force 2/25 Tahlequah v. Bond -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for killing a man 3/25 Shoop v. Twyford -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 4/25 Brown v. Davenport -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 5/25 Shinn v. Ramirez -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 6/25 Zubaydah -- SCOTUS allowed the Govt to withhold information about torture on CIA black sites 7/25 Vaello-Madero -- SCOTUS denied SS benefits to residents of Puerto Rico 8/25 Cummings -- SCOTUS disallowed recovery for emotional-distress damages in civil rights lawsuits 9/25 Patel -- SCOTUS stripped federal courts of jurisdiction to review fact issues in immigration proceedings 10/25 Biden v. Missouri -- SCOTUS blocked a federal vaccine mandate 11/25 Garland v. Gonzalez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'''' access to a bond hearing 12/25 Johnson v. Arteaga-Martinez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'''' access to a bond hearing 13/25 FEC v. Ted Cruz -- SCOTUS struck down campaign finance restrictions to enable Ted Cruz to pay himself back for loans he made to his own campaign 14/25 Egbert v. Boule -- SCOTUS further limited a person''''s ability to sue federal officers (Bivens actions) 15/25 Vega v. Tekah -- SCOTUS weakened enforcement of Miranda rights 16/25 Carson v. Makin -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, forcing states to fund private religious schools 17/25 Kennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist. -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, allowing football coach to have public/publicized Christian prayers at football games 18/25 Denezpi -- SCOTUS recognized tribal sovereignty just enough to allow an Indian defendant to be prosecuted twice for the same crime (no double jeopardy), then... 19/25 Castro-Huerta -- SCOTUS undermined tribal sovereignty by making tribal land "part of state" and allowing state to exercise jurisdiction on tribal land 20/25 Bruen -- SCOTUS struck down NY''''s 100yo restriction on concealed carry to expand 2A and limit gun restrictions 21/25 U.S. v. Texas -- SCOTUS allowed Texas''''s "bounty hunter" antiabortion law to go into effect 22/25 Dobbs -- SCOTUS overruled Roe & Casey, eliminating the federal right to abortion and enabling severe (life-threatening) restrictions on abortion to go into effect 23/25 West Virginia v. EPA -- SCOTUS undermined the EPA''''s ability to regulate emissions and fight global warming 24/25 And it must be noted that this isn''''t everything. SCOTUS also did things on the shadow docket -- like allow Louisiana''''s racial gerrymander to stay in effect for the 2022 election, etc. supersleeper 发表于 2022-06-30 17:32
你还不承认自己开楼的时候瞎说？如果愿意好好辩论就针对我说的那三个指出你曲解的解释，说说你的理解，比如你怎么就看出“取消规定警察必须告知Miranda rights warning”，让我这个细节派听听。再说那是细节吗？你完全改变了高院判罚的意思！ 现在胡搅蛮缠，扔那么多cases干什么？
你还不承认自己开楼的时候瞎说？如果愿意好好辩论就针对我说的那三个指出你曲解的解释，说说你的理解，比如你怎么就看出“取消规定警察必须告知Miranda rights warning”，让我这个细节派听听。再说那是细节吗？你完全改变了高院判罚的意思！ 现在胡搅蛮缠，扔那么多cases干什么？ surge 发表于 2022-06-30 17:46
Whatever man ive seen many many minimizes on many different issues all over the years. The whole point of your argument is to show “I know more details than you and I know better than you” im a true believer of democracy and thus I truly believe information should not be monopolized by the so called “experts”. I’m here not to give lectures on legal jargons but to point out the elephant in the room and sound the alarms to the masses to research the details themselves and see the obvious trend, hardcore partisan aside. if you failed to see that, then you are not as smart as you claim yourself to be if you saw that but still chose to be a minimizer, then you are either a believer that the masses are incapable of finding out details or the trend line on their own and need to be spoon fed or you have other intentions as a hardcore partisan hidden under a veneer of “impartial authority”. Exactly as those 6 justices did.
回复 161楼的帖子 tell me with a straight face: answer the following questions Given what they just did 1 Will they stop here? 2 What’s next they are going to go after 3 What do you think will stop them from doing anything even worse? 4 What do you think is their end game and goal?
这些问题答案，请搜搜最近共和党从上到下个色政客的公开言论，都有答案 it’s all out in the open now, they don’t even bother to hide anymore. Yet yet yet still there are those people who will calmly say ”其实没有那么糟糕” 这句话好像在纳粹犹太人集中营的电影里看过哦。进澡堂之前还说，“别担心，不会的，没有那么糟糕” 🙂
回复 164楼的帖子 根本是伪命题 民主党里面有哪个掌权派说随便吸毒，随便开放边境？男女不分？你驾照上性别被取消了吗？ 这个伪命题在于：根本就是一些个人自由的事情，谁想变性变形关我屁事。敞开变有没有1%的人愿意变？强迫你变形了吗？ 几年前妖魔化gay marriage都用过的剧本，尼玛gay marriage 多少年了，你家老公去gay marriage了没？对了，光你屁事。当时妖魔化宣称的，天塌下来了。现在同样剧本用在变性人身上继续妖魔化。 谁爱吸大麻吸大麻去，你去问我你们college age children 有没有没吸过大麻的。屁大点事。况且，民主党有一个人说海洛因合法了吗？ 边境谁想进谁进？你要不要去问问Biden现在为啥还吧asylum seeker挡在边境外面？至于非法移民，Obama年代抓的比布什和trump按年化率都多 Again full of lies and smoke screens 所以这些重复这些洗脑“问题”的人，根本没有cognitive ability to realize the only and real threat: 政教合一的塔利班模式的国家白种男人至上的国家 Some times I can’t help but feel humans are indeed stupid.
回复 164楼的帖子 根本是伪命题 民主党里面有哪个掌权派说随便吸毒，随便开放边境？男女不分？你驾照上性别被取消了吗？ 这个伪命题在于：根本就是一些个人自由的事情，谁想变性变形关我屁事。敞开变有没有1%的人愿意变？强迫你变形了吗？ 几年前妖魔化gay marriage都用过的剧本，尼玛gay marriage 多少年了，你家老公去gay marriage了没？对了，光你屁事。当时妖魔化宣称的，天塌下来了。现在同样剧本用在变性人身上继续妖魔化。 谁爱吸大麻吸大麻去，你去问我你们college age children 有没有没吸过大麻的。屁大点事。况且，民主党有一个人说海洛因合法了吗？ 边境谁想进谁进？你要不要去问问Biden现在为啥还吧asylum seeker挡在边境外面？至于非法移民，Obama年代抓的比布什和trump按年化率都多 Again full of lies and smoke screens 所以这些重复这些洗脑“问题”的人，根本没有cognitive ability to realize the only and real threat: 政教合一的塔利班模式的国家白种男人至上的国家 Some times I can’t help but feel humans are indeed stupid. supersleeper 发表于 2022-06-30 18:38
全部民主党这个投票不用争论，因为另外一个选择就是个美国塔利班。没有第三个选择现在。 我焦虑的是，哪怕在蓝州，美国塔利班夺权后，恐怕社会也不可能稳定。少数神棍对多数人进行政教合一暴政这样的系统一定需要暴力升级来维持，这个是我焦虑的。你也需要焦虑一下孩子们的成长环境。 另外这周这个判决之后，蓝州枪支也会进一步泛滥，总之任何神志正常的华人，不管你政治倾向如何，都应该搞清楚现在美国所处的像政教合一法西斯国家滑落的趋势 当然，很多人会到死都不会醒悟的。so be it. 我发这些目的就是让那些可以独立思考的人，来思考一下，我虽然用了法西斯喜欢的夸张修辞，但是内容和大方向判断绝对没错 咱们2-5年之内就会看到final答案
CNN poll reported today, 老百姓现在也不好忽悠，随便怎么swing Americans'' views of Biden, meanwhile, remain underwater. A CNN Poll of Polls average of surveys taken in the second half of June finds that 38% of Americans approve of the job he''s doing, with 57% disapproving, similar to his ratings earlier in the month. In the AP-NORC poll, 28% of US adults approve of Biden''s job performance on the economy -- his lowest rating on the issue to date in that survey -- 36% approve of his performance on gun policy and 53% approve of the way he''s handled the coronavirus pandemic.
CNN poll reported today, 老百姓现在也不好忽悠，随便怎么swing Americans'' views of Biden, meanwhile, remain underwater. A CNN Poll of Polls average of surveys taken in the second half of June finds that 38% of Americans approve of the job he''s doing, with 57% disapproving, similar to his ratings earlier in the month. In the AP-NORC poll, 28% of US adults approve of Biden''s job performance on the economy -- his lowest rating on the issue to date in that survey -- 36% approve of his performance on gun policy and 53% approve of the way he''s handled the coronavirus pandemic. brookeyang 发表于 2022-06-30 18:53
I don’t approve Biden’s job performance! 他太软弱了，对付法西斯党对美国制度的攻击，素手无策，无所作为。 他太古董了，还以为美国是40年前他在参议院时候的美国。他没睁开他那个老眼昏花的眼睛看看共和党现在变成什么样了吗？ 总之，他Biden赶紧辞职美国也许还有救。他继续赖着不作为，眼睁睁等着美国坚持塔利班式的政教合一白男至上国吧
CNN poll reported today, 老百姓现在也不好忽悠，随便怎么swing Americans'''' views of Biden, meanwhile, remain underwater. A CNN Poll of Polls average of surveys taken in the second half of June finds that 38% of Americans approve of the job he''''s doing, with 57% disapproving, similar to his ratings earlier in the month. In the AP-NORC poll, 28% of US adults approve of Biden''''s job performance on the economy -- his lowest rating on the issue to date in that survey -- 36% approve of his performance on gun policy and 53% approve of the way he''''s handled the coronavirus pandemic. brookeyang 发表于 2022-06-30 18:53
Hey Dude or gal please mock me now all you want but please please please remember today you read it from me first. you will appreciate how smart I’m in the near future. Please just mark your calendar and remember today. and now mock me all you want buffet style Seriously 有空多去看看关于当时纳粹犹太人的书，看看那时候对早早跑路的爱因斯坦，其他犹太人是怎么嘲讽的😄
Road to fascism is always filled with people who would try to explain any warning signs away with FULL LEGAL JARGONS. 我真的没精力一一反驳你描述的事实和逻辑谬误。我只是总结一下这短短2周时间内共和党控制的最高法院一系列和美国主流民意格格不入的判决。你要是对具体判决细节纠结，说其实没到你说的100%，只完成了95%，典型的转移问题关键，因篇幅无法照顾的文字细节而否定大趋势的观察。 不怀疑你动机，只是可怜你这种鸵鸟式cognitive dissonance 看起来你也是熟读最高法院文书的爱好者，你潜意识知道这个2周的一系列判决定下的趋势多可怕，所以不想相信，在细节里找证据安慰自己。底下这个图比较合适。 supersleeper 发表于 2022-06-30 12:45
Hey Dude or gal please mock me now all you want but please please please remember today you read it from me first. you will appreciate how smart I’m in the near future. Please just mark your calendar and remember today. and now mock me all you want buffet style Seriously 有空多去看看关于当时纳粹犹太人的书，看看那时候对早早跑路的爱因斯坦，其他犹太人是怎么嘲讽的😄 supersleeper 发表于 2022-06-30 19:12
为什么要难受？我不反对别人信教的自由，但是反对神棍们把自己的信仰强加到别人的身上，还写进法律，政教合一。毒瘤就是毒瘤，为什么不能说？倒是你替别人难受起劲得很。
你的信息来源就是Google,还可以喂别人信息，很厉害哦，去做个社会调查，现在还有几个年轻人每个星期去教堂，真姓上帝那一套的。。
与你的写作和总结手法有点像
天天说强奸犯生孩子，找出来一个判例好不好？！ 也想看看英美法系下面哪个法官会逼着被强奸的不让堕胎让生下来的。
虽然我不信教，但你解释一下为什么大科学家牛顿最后也信基督教了？他也是个蠢人？
我觉得你需要找出一个美国版的丰县八娃女来比较有说服力
所以，共产主义国家，牢牢占据宣传的大本营啊。 GOP在宣传阵线简直毫无还手之力。
对，还是民主党左派好，随便变性，是男是女随自己，随便吸毒，敞开国界，什么人都可以接受，随便犯罪，打砸抢随便来，真他妈自由，爽！
未成年的，遭到强奸乱伦的都要生下来，你自己不看新闻，还。。。。
自己看新闻去！这么大了还要我喂你吃饭吗？
谢谢澄清。
现在还有🐷党议员还要重新开始调查，然后版上的一装13女士坚决拥护，坚持调查到底….. 😂
django unchained 奴隶主的大管家
你在逗我玩吗，铁链女脖子上的链条可是至今还在锁着呢，你推荐部电影给我相提并论？
我顶这个观点，这里很多人以文革式谩骂来表达左倾观点，出于本能的反感所以我越来越右倾。
其他的我没自己研究过，就不评价了。
是啊。看看今天新大法官宣誓的手放在了什么上面？是宪法吗？
教徒和非教徒都要交税，但我缴的税金不想流入教会，更别说私立学校本身就收学费，对学生还有选择权。
非常喜欢这样客观的角度解释，赞一个。
他根本不信三位一体，不信耶稣是神, 信个啥的“基督教”啊，老爱达尔文也都被教徒了，真让人无语，另外那些科学家信神也有历史因素。
铲党跟gop党意识形态类似 这里大都是铲党教育出来的产物 黄右多不奇怪 这些黄右在国内就是粉红 是党员
你比楼主客观，楼主是以客观为铺盖，掀开表面下面全是LZ的个人私货。
税金怎么使用，不说缴税人可以控制的。“我缴的税金不想流入教会”为理由， 这句话是站不住脚的。要知道，没有一项税金的使用，是会得到一致同意的。很多人反战，但我们还是花很多税金在军费上。很多人反对给非法移民福利，但很多税金还是还是花在非法移民上。
的确私立学校自己收费很高，还有donation， 没有必要拿公共的钱。但如果一个州已经决定给私人学校一些public funding， 高院认为必须一视同仁，不可以单独把宗教私校排除。我个人认为是可以接受的。
小丑看正常人都是小丑吧
那个ID是有名的加拿大菜场大妈，一个选票都没有的人，外国势力搅局的。
你这个胡说了。GOP基本盘最典型的特点：白人，基督教，拥枪，小政府。和共产党没任何交集。
还有不要什么事情都扯上共产党。美国的事情别扯上中国。
不认字吗？
问你法官判例你给个议长新闻。议长说的话在司法系统算数？
这个也是我的观察
这两个“共”字头的党，是同一个硬币的两面，但是在一下方面完全一致
政教合一：共产教：：嫉妒教
高层自己不信教：不信共产主义：：根本不真信基督教
反民主
反司法独立
反教育 产党反英语教育：：共和党反一切教育
支持群体：底层五毛：：底层疮粉
支持群体心智：不喜欢独立思考，喜欢强人政治救世主政治。
反对群体：知识分子：知识分子
反科学
反对基本人权：反女性身体支配权： 强制堕胎的计划生育：：强制生育的计划生育
反LGBT群体基本权利
反对除了政教合一教之外的其他人的宗教自由或者不信它政教合一教的自由：在中国你公开不信共产主义日子会很难过：在红脖极端地区你公开不信嫉妒教日子会很难过
反科学抗疫：极端封城的反科学抗疫：：口罩都不让带的喝漂白水的反科学抗疫
同意这个。 税金的使用如果由选民喜好来决定的话，那最后没人交税了。
这么严重的事情国会这么多年都没有立法，还要靠判例，是不是说不过去？有立法提案吗？不管从哪个党出来的
现在很多州，比如德州的堕胎法律，就没有rape和incest的特例。
这明显没有逻辑。 独立党可能更糟呢？
再说美国没有独立党只有少数党。你混哪片儿的？
了解下filibuster
就是
极右公开宣称下一步计划是进一步完成政教合一的白种男人理想国
极左公开宣称下一步是让Elon musk Jeff bezos 之类的tax rate和我们屁民一样
两边都太极端了！
这有什么问题？ KBJ是Protestant Christian，对着Bible宣誓是不是很正常。 信伊斯兰教的可以用可兰经作为宣誓，这届众议院就有很多议员这么做的。 事实上，都没有任何规定你宣誓的时候必须把手发在任何东西上。 无神论的人就可以这么做。我们的宪法就规定“no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
很多州不知道。德州SB8没说不能。 我更相信德州法官没胆子顶风作案，这是挑战common sense的问题。
你看的新闻也都是传了几道又被中文媒体转的。最初是AOC在说谎，不过没啥后果也就这样子。
说得对。高院现在在美国就是扮演了一个终身总统的角色。这是不对的。高院这次判决，是一次法理上的拨乱反正。川普的死对头、自由派领军人物金斯伯格大法官，女权和女性堕胎权的坚决支持者，是公开反对Roe v. Wade判例的。她认为把堕胎权收归联邦层面，从根本上动摇了美国立法和司法之间的独立，更一针见血地指出，堕胎权实际是一个医学问题和经济问题，而非女权问题。
以前没有判例，那是因为有Roe VS Wade顶着。 现在没有了Roe，你想要的判例马上就会有了。已经有很多州比如阿肯色禁了几乎所有堕胎，包括rape/incest。这个可不是中文媒体。哪怕你说的德州心跳法，rape 和 incest 也是不允许的。你自己可以做做research。 什么德州法官没胆子顶风作案，法律在那里，法官当然这么判。 看看州长的话吧：
On September 7, 2021, Governor Abbott asserted that the Act does not force raped women to carry pregnancies to term because the state would "work tirelessly to make sure that we eliminate all rapists from the streets of Texas by aggressively going out and arresting them and prosecuting them and getting them off the streets"
看看像话吗？ 我们的法律不是强迫被强奸的妇女必须生小孩，因为我们会尽全力把所以强奸犯都抓起来，所以妇女同志不要担心。问题是法律抓强奸犯都是after the fact，难道德州警察有预测能力？
当你在一个极端的时候 看站在中间的人也会觉得极端
是的。
“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights. “Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”
花军费我也反对，可是军方和私校不同，私校占了大笔税务上的好处，税都不付，也有自己的收入，为啥还要我们的税金，贪婪过头了吧🤷♀️
其实猪党现在很多做派真的越来越像铲党
楼主英文过四级了吗
那你反对的是政府拨款给私校，that''s fine。 这其实和高院判决无关。高院并没有是否拨款给私校的立场， 而是说如果州政府给私校拨款，不能排除宗教私校，要一视同仁。
感觉不会。只会给民主党中期选举拉票。谁知道最近都什么操作。
现在主党主要煽动各种社会issues来转移老百姓对经济的不满，没见最近什么高院，abortion rights, 环境贴子越来越多，随着中期选举愈演愈烈。
这是目前最正确而通俗的解读、就是很多人装瞎混淆视听
我觉得没有问题, 基本上支持。
这些重要吗？看隔壁那楼，左派只要把川普选下去就好了，跟着拜登喝西北风人家也高兴。
本人GRE verbal 99% percentile 你敢不敢一起晒晒？
送给细节派：这个是我看第五联邦法庭上诉律师总结的其他20多个判案，细节派要不要仔细研究下看看有啥刺可以挑一下
Today marks the end of what is surely one of the worst terms in #SCOTUS history. Guns and prayer and abortion got most of the attention. But that''s not all the Court did. Here are just some of the Court''s bad decisions: 1/25 Rivas-Villegas -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for using excessive force 2/25 Tahlequah v. Bond -- SCOTUS reversed the lower court to give a cop qualified immunity for killing a man 3/25
Shoop v. Twyford -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 4/25 Brown v. Davenport -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 5/25 Shinn v. Ramirez -- SCOTUS made it harder to get habeas relief 6/25 Zubaydah -- SCOTUS allowed the Govt to withhold information about torture on CIA black sites 7/25 Vaello-Madero -- SCOTUS denied SS benefits to residents of Puerto Rico 8/25 Cummings -- SCOTUS disallowed recovery for emotional-distress damages in civil rights lawsuits 9/25 Patel -- SCOTUS stripped federal courts of jurisdiction to review fact issues in immigration proceedings 10/25 Biden v. Missouri -- SCOTUS blocked a federal vaccine mandate 11/25 Garland v. Gonzalez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'' access to a bond hearing 12/25 Johnson v. Arteaga-Martinez -- SCOTUS denied long-detained immigrants'' access to a bond hearing 13/25 FEC v. Ted Cruz -- SCOTUS struck down campaign finance restrictions to enable Ted Cruz to pay himself back for loans he made to his own campaign 14/25 Egbert v. Boule -- SCOTUS further limited a person''s ability to sue federal officers (Bivens actions) 15/25 Vega v. Tekah -- SCOTUS weakened enforcement of Miranda rights 16/25 Carson v. Makin -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, forcing states to fund private religious schools 17/25 Kennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist. -- SCOTUS undermined the Establishment Clause, allowing football coach to have public/publicized Christian prayers at football games 18/25 Denezpi -- SCOTUS recognized tribal sovereignty just enough to allow an Indian defendant to be prosecuted twice for the same crime (no double jeopardy), then... 19/25 Castro-Huerta -- SCOTUS undermined tribal sovereignty by making tribal land "part of state" and allowing state to exercise jurisdiction on tribal land 20/25 Bruen -- SCOTUS struck down NY''s 100yo restriction on concealed carry to expand 2A and limit gun restrictions 21/25 U.S. v. Texas -- SCOTUS allowed Texas''s "bounty hunter" antiabortion law to go into effect 22/25 Dobbs -- SCOTUS overruled Roe & Casey, eliminating the federal right to abortion and enabling severe (life-threatening) restrictions on abortion to go into effect 23/25 West Virginia v. EPA -- SCOTUS undermined the EPA''s ability to regulate emissions and fight global warming 24/25 And it must be noted that this isn''t everything. SCOTUS also did things on the shadow docket -- like allow Louisiana''s racial gerrymander to stay in effect for the 2022 election, etc.
你还不承认自己开楼的时候瞎说？如果愿意好好辩论就针对我说的那三个指出你曲解的解释，说说你的理解，比如你怎么就看出“取消规定警察必须告知Miranda rights warning”，让我这个细节派听听。再说那是细节吗？你完全改变了高院判罚的意思！ 现在胡搅蛮缠，扔那么多cases干什么？
Whatever man
ive seen many many minimizes on many different issues all over the years. The whole point of your argument is to show “I know more details than you and I know better than you”
im a true believer of democracy and thus I truly believe information should not be monopolized by the so called “experts”. I’m here not to give lectures on legal jargons but to point out the elephant in the room and sound the alarms to the masses to research the details themselves and see the obvious trend, hardcore partisan aside.
if you failed to see that, then you are not as smart as you claim yourself to be
if you saw that but still chose to be a minimizer, then you are either a believer that the masses are incapable of finding out details or the trend line on their own and need to be spoon fed or you have other intentions as a hardcore partisan hidden under a veneer of “impartial authority”. Exactly as those 6 justices did.
tell me with a straight face: answer the following questions
Given what they just did
1 Will they stop here?
2 What’s next they are going to go after
3 What do you think will stop them from doing anything even worse?
4 What do you think is their end game and goal?
这些问题答案，请搜搜最近共和党从上到下个色政客的公开言论，都有答案
it’s all out in the open now, they don’t even bother to hide anymore. Yet yet yet still there are those people who will calmly say ”其实没有那么糟糕” 这句话好像在纳粹犹太人集中营的电影里看过哦。进澡堂之前还说，“别担心，不会的，没有那么糟糕” 🙂
“更一针见血地指出，堕胎权实际是一个医学问题和经济问题，而非女权问题。”这简直是牛头不对马嘴的翻译。她的原意是归结到底是医生做流产手术合不合法的问题，因为即使孕妇想去流产，也需要医生的配合。所以归结到底是医生能不能合法的做流产手术。
我觉得就是这样也比政教不分强。把宗教掺进政府管理。想想黑暗的中世纪，想想那些宗教战争。民主自由的悲哀
为什么不把蓄奴权下放给州里呢？宪法也没有说一个关于奴棣的字呀？从奴棣主的角度，废奴不就是联邦干预地方嘛？对奴棣主来说，奴棣就是私有财产，宪法不是说了私有财产不可侵犯嘛？ 同样的逻辑也可以用到妇女投票权，宪法里有“WOMEN”嘛？为什么要给妇女投票权呢？建国者不都是男的嘛？从“MAN”引伸出“WOMEN”难道不是当年大法官们的历史倒退？
根本是伪命题
民主党里面有哪个掌权派说随便吸毒，随便开放边境？男女不分？你驾照上性别被取消了吗？
这个伪命题在于：根本就是一些个人自由的事情，谁想变性变形关我屁事。敞开变有没有1%的人愿意变？强迫你变形了吗？
几年前妖魔化gay marriage都用过的剧本，尼玛gay marriage 多少年了，你家老公去gay marriage了没？对了，光你屁事。当时妖魔化宣称的，天塌下来了。现在同样剧本用在变性人身上继续妖魔化。
谁爱吸大麻吸大麻去，你去问我你们college age children 有没有没吸过大麻的。屁大点事。况且，民主党有一个人说海洛因合法了吗？
边境谁想进谁进？你要不要去问问Biden现在为啥还吧asylum seeker挡在边境外面？至于非法移民，Obama年代抓的比布什和trump按年化率都多
Again full of lies and smoke screens 所以这些重复这些洗脑“问题”的人，根本没有cognitive ability to realize the only and real threat: 政教合一的塔利班模式的国家白种男人至上的国家
Some times I can’t help but feel humans are indeed stupid.
是啊，每个case要想讨论就得自己看完全文，所谓总结都带着总结者的立场。
了解啥？流产案多少年了，国会就立法展开过类似同性恋婚姻合法的讨论吗？同性恋婚姻都立法了，有人真的关心妇女流程权吗？
哦哦哦，所以technically 高院并没有“禁止”妇女选择权哦。“只是下放给州了而已”
哦哦，所以technically高院并没有说州不能立法控制枪支，“只是规定不能控制的太严而已”
这位，饭要一口口吃，200多年的美国，共和党想打烂也需要时间，别急，你指责我的事情，在等1-2年自然变成绝对的事实。现在只是进度条90%而已，别急啊。
太焦虑了不好。直接损伤身体健康。自己的身体健康是天下第一大事。淡定淡定。你的意思懂了，中期选举投民主党，千万不能投共和党。
你教育我一下：国会通过同性婚姻法案是啥时候，法案名字叫啥？
全部民主党这个投票不用争论，因为另外一个选择就是个美国塔利班。没有第三个选择现在。
我焦虑的是，哪怕在蓝州，美国塔利班夺权后，恐怕社会也不可能稳定。少数神棍对多数人进行政教合一暴政这样的系统一定需要暴力升级来维持，这个是我焦虑的。你也需要焦虑一下孩子们的成长环境。
另外这周这个判决之后，蓝州枪支也会进一步泛滥，总之任何神志正常的华人，不管你政治倾向如何，都应该搞清楚现在美国所处的像政教合一法西斯国家滑落的趋势
当然，很多人会到死都不会醒悟的。so be it. 我发这些目的就是让那些可以独立思考的人，来思考一下，我虽然用了法西斯喜欢的夸张修辞，但是内容和大方向判断绝对没错
咱们2-5年之内就会看到final答案
我觉得你说的很有道理，可是让我很害怕。我是准备在美国工作到退休年龄的，要不要提前逃离啊？
I don’t approve Biden’s job performance!
他太软弱了，对付法西斯党对美国制度的攻击，素手无策，无所作为。 他太古董了，还以为美国是40年前他在参议院时候的美国。他没睁开他那个老眼昏花的眼睛看看共和党现在变成什么样了吗？
总之，他Biden赶紧辞职美国也许还有救。他继续赖着不作为，眼睁睁等着美国坚持塔利班式的政教合一白男至上国吧
我不会在公开论坛是这些，省的让傻逼收益。让傻逼蠢死活该，好好享受gilead国的好处去吧
私信讨论
你有脑子没 你去看了吗 你是啥结论？高院是不是说了妇女有身体选择权了？educate me please please please
你大概可能不理解左派不是川粉，不是个人崇拜。 左派对民主党的意见更大
最近反堕胎游行的采访报道，很多人对于民主党不能把堕胎通过立法形式保护下来意见很大，给高院钻了空子。
只懂得个人崇拜➕忠诚不绝对就是绝对不忠诚的共X党支持者，怎么可以理解骂Biden最凶的是支持民主党的正常人呢？
太不可思议啦！
如果你不是来当搅屎棍，你说的每句话都是你肺腑之言，觉得你生活在美国真的太委屈你了，简直生活在水深火热中！” 塔利班式政教合一白男至上？”，你还好吧？
Hey Dude or gal
please mock me now all you want but please please please remember today you read it from me first.
you will appreciate how smart I’m in the near future. Please just mark your calendar and remember today.
and now mock me all you want buffet style
Seriously 有空多去看看关于当时纳粹犹太人的书，看看那时候对早早跑路的爱因斯坦，其他犹太人是怎么嘲讽的😄
正解！ 就是这种“不管你肯不肯，都要把孩子生下来”的态度
我觉得共和党不仅仅如此
这种一连串极端判决，和主流民意强烈相悖，共和党怎么可能不知道。他真的不担心中期和总统大选大败吗？摆了之后，国会可以随时推翻高院判决
你有没有想过这个可能，它不是傻不知道这个后果，可能可能是它很confident它一定能选应，对，不管民意如何，一定能选赢。听起来是不是有点像共X党那种选举啦？
考虑下这个可能性，再看看它们这一年在各个红州进行的大选夺权布局。基本上，不管民意如何，它们回牢牢控制国会和总统（最高法院已经被牢牢控制了第一年，这两周这一连串）
仔细想想Jan 6那个政变计划为啥没成功，这次要成功它们会怎么做
仔细思考答案就在眼边
要不要大家集资开一个道教学校，兼修编程。。。STEM
对抗塔利班只能是用这种还治其人之身的办法
但是我担心你一办，红州政府有各种办法不给你钱。蓝州你办的起来没问题，但是不能禁枪了，以后人家屠杀学生专门找你道教学校来
总之，你还是觉得塔利班夺权后会维持法治？！you will be unpleasantly surprised
你不是没有精力，你是没有能力吧。发这么多误导性的言论，我看你精力很旺盛
本来联邦可以保护的妇女自主权，现在交给宗教狂热分子老白男来做主，这个和把权利下放给美国人民没有一点关系。
行了别说看书的事了，你就说咱们往哪里跑路？
赞这个，其实美国更容易滑向极右
按本办版风气，我统一建议是：天下太平，一切岁月静好。
咱们继续聊房子 RSU 包裹 刷题 升职😃
咨询费？真是高看你了 以为你是个人物呢 还自比爱因斯坦 以后你的帖一律拉黑
Who gives a f🥹
You can you up I’m all ears
just curious if you are even aware of those things before seeing my list lol