回复 109楼noghsot_1948的帖子 是的,基本肉烂在锅里。 “People have used cryptocurrency to borrow for other cryptocurrency, but that’s sort of contained in the crypto world.” There are exceptions — MicroStrategy took out a $205 million bitcoin-backed loan in March with the crypto-focused bank Silvergate — but for the most part, crypto-backed loans exist within an industry-specific echo chamber.
回复 111楼narsecho的帖子 这段说现在大部分的digital assets都不是机构持有的。 经过这次crash,我认为机构会更谨慎,crypto winter已经来了,问题只是会持续几年而已。 For all the enthusiasm for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, venture capitalist and celebrity investor Kevin O’Leary points out that most digital asset holdings are not institutional. Gans agrees, telling CNBC that he doubts banks areall that exposed to the crypto sell-off. “There’s certainly been banks and other financial institutions, which have expressed interest in crypto as an asset and as an asset that they might like their customers to also be able to invest in, but in reality, there isn’t that much of that investment going on,” explained Gans, noting that banks have their own set of regulations and their own need to make sure that things are appropriate investments. “I don’t think we’ve seen the sort of exposure to that that we’ve seen in other financial crises,” he said.
decentralized, why defi is so promising is because you can make/get loans without the banks.. the whole point of blockchain/crypto is to get the big brother system out of the process...
decentralized, why defi is so promising is because you can make/get loans without the banks.. the whole point of blockchain/crypto is to get the big brother system out of the process... ranch_99 发表于 2022-06-19 00:40
And you really think the big brother will,let that happen?
回复 111楼narsecho的帖子 这段说现在大部分的digital assets都不是机构持有的。 经过这次crash,我认为机构会更谨慎,crypto winter已经来了,问题只是会持续几年而已。 For all the enthusiasm for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, venture capitalist and celebrity investor Kevin O’Leary points out that most digital asset holdings are not institutional. Gans agrees, telling CNBC that he doubts banks areall that exposed to the crypto sell-off. “There’s certainly been banks and other financial institutions, which have expressed interest in crypto as an asset and as an asset that they might like their customers to also be able to invest in, but in reality, there isn’t that much of that investment going on,” explained Gans, noting that banks have their own set of regulations and their own need to make sure that things are appropriate investments. “I don’t think we’ve seen the sort of exposure to that that we’ve seen in other financial crises,” he said. kikidelivery 发表于 2022-06-19 00:35
比特币没有什么实用性吧
Daily Wire on Twitter: "Powell: "Rapid changes are taking place in the global monetary system that may affect the international role of the dollar...A U.S. [central bank digital currency] could...potentially help maintain the dollar’s international standing.” https://t.co/qCgw3ySTiE" / Twitter
Powell: "Rapid changes are taking place in the global monetary system that may affect the international role of the dollar...A U.S. [central bank digital currency] could...potentially help maintain the dollar’s international standing.”
有一些矿工的真实成本是3.2-3.3cents。
有些人88的同时,另一些人在开香槟。
除了某🦌自己买气井发电之外谁成本有3分了?
这个指的是Digital dollar不是比特币。 中国大力发展Digital yuan同时打击比特币,不知道美国会不会走同样的路。
中国政府搞数字人民币的本质是要搞数字粮票,重回计划经济。美国政府搞数字货币没有任何意义。
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这种方式不会更便宜,北美的天然气现在很有用。。。欧洲有大量需求。
其他美国境内的电,还有4cents内的,美国境外的,3cents多的很多。
直接接受比特币抵押贷款的,目前没有。
是的,基本肉烂在锅里。 “People have used cryptocurrency to borrow for other cryptocurrency, but that’s sort of contained in the crypto world.” There are exceptions — MicroStrategy took out a $205 million bitcoin-backed loan in March with the crypto-focused bank Silvergate — but for the most part, crypto-backed loans exist within an industry-specific echo chamber.
因为都在交易所里,交易所里的流动性都是这么做出来的。
华尔街这次应该赔掉底裤?因为花街大亏,我才觉得bitcoin这次大跌回不来了。
事实证明不抗通胀,之前吹嘘的任何好处都没有,坏处一大堆一个没少。
当然了信者恒信,就看多少人信了。但是花街投机跟美国政府信用支持差了十万八千里。
我一直觉得btc 这个越来越难挖的币,是fundamentally flawed.
这段说现在大部分的digital assets都不是机构持有的。 经过这次crash,我认为机构会更谨慎,crypto winter已经来了,问题只是会持续几年而已。
For all the enthusiasm for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, venture capitalist and celebrity investor Kevin O’Leary points out that most digital asset holdings are not institutional. Gans agrees, telling CNBC that he doubts banks are all that exposed to the crypto sell-off. “There’s certainly been banks and other financial institutions, which have expressed interest in crypto as an asset and as an asset that they might like their customers to also be able to invest in, but in reality, there isn’t that much of that investment going on,” explained Gans, noting that banks have their own set of regulations and their own need to make sure that things are appropriate investments. “I don’t think we’ve seen the sort of exposure to that that we’ve seen in other financial crises,” he said.
huh???!! 自己去Google一下 defi,
我个人觉得整体数字货币盘子并不大。华尔街并没有大的对手盘,也没人有这个实力。这只是华尔街的众多金融工具中的一个。
decentralized, why defi is so promising is because you can make/get loans without the banks.. the whole point of blockchain/crypto is to get the big brother system out of the process...
And you really think the big brother will,let that happen?
做反了就亏呗。那些买了btc 做asset的还挣了吗?
目前defi,绝大部分不是“银行”,也不是美国政府定义的任何一种“金融机构”。有兴趣去看他们的合规细节就好了。
银行,或者在美国的外资银行,都是有明确的合规要求的。一个LLC,或者一个新加波的非盈利基金会,或者一个DAO组织,或者一个开曼公司就能说自己是金融机构了吗?
那我还说自己是火星人呢。
这个是比特币吗?我说的是比特币
呵呵,看起来您真不是圈里人。
winter is coming, not just for crypto.
是啊。我记得以前的新闻是把整个crypto market 跟苹果公司比
去年中国下狠手大力打击采矿,绝大部份矿机都被赶走了,当时华尔街日报还是啥的说中国政府倒行逆施,美国喜迎矿机入驻,从此引领比特币潮流
股票跌就跌呗关我啥事?股票跌他还能不生产显卡啦?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1081252187/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-china-us
未经他人苦,莫劝他人善 我连续两周去电脑店门口准时排队,但是买不到显卡的时候,我还会在意矿老板和赌徒们?哈哈哈哈亏惨了吧?
再说了,我天天在医院加班救人,还差这点福报?我的福报记账本这点东西都不够我零头,省省吧你
嘛……这种郁金香游戏,肯定有人赚钱走人,有人天台做空中飞人,又不是每个人矿厂都有水电站
真的假的,我感觉周围没有那么多,还是高科技群体
素数是无穷的。可以用反证法很容易证明。
假设素数是有限的,一共N个,把这N个素数连乘的乘积再加 1,就又是一个新的素数。所以,假设不成立。
表面上比特币是有限的,但是,因为比特币可以用 1/2,1/4, 1/8,1/16 不停地切分成无限小的分数作为货币单元,等于是无限的。
有限和无限是针对货币单元来说的。普通的货币,最小的交易单元是固定的,比如1美分,货币发行量,决定了可使用的总量。比特币,没有最小的交易单元,所谓的有限发行量,其实是一种忽悠。
黑人投资币市的比例高于其他人种,不会自杀,只怕更乱,可能零元购都补不上缺口
还真是这样,无限涨下去的话都可以无限细分了
费马数 2^2^n+1 有不同的prime factors, 两两互质, 所以有无穷多质数。
我咋觉得数学系的谁都知道素数是无穷的。
呵呵,那请您这个圈内人来讲讲。
为什么要讲呢? 资本市场本来就很血腥,虚拟货币跟当年的次贷相比又如何?
总量一定但是可以无限细分,就导致天然的通缩,大家持有比特币就好了,以后可以买更多东西,于是大家就都会藏起来不拿出来用,就会导致市场上没有比特币可用,要想让经济转起来就必须分得更小,更加通缩,所以这种天然通缩的东西是不可能拿来做货币的,醒醒吧
你说比特币没有质押,又说合规的银行不接受。那你来讲讲defi是做啥的,美国合规的crypto交易所占总交易额的多少?美国之外的三四分的矿场算力占比有多少?
也不能再细分了,现在最小单位就是1so=e-6 而且btc网络很慢,容易堵,gasfee也很高,越来越高,不适合日常交易。。所以btc不是货币,是数字货币的本位,是黄金。
説錯了。 是 1 in 5 adult 不是1/5 的全體米囯人。 請看這個視頻 從2:05 開始:
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這個就嚇人了,危險呃
你有兴趣发btc帖,没功夫Google?
基本数论问题,素数是无穷的
啊对对对,矿场那么多显卡都是装饰品?你开心就行不需要说服我
例如,高盛和galaxy的合作。高盛出钱,galaxy做业务。这个是银行出钱,机构做事。机构有相应的备案和资质。
大部分的defi项目的资金来自募集,这个募集是否做了合规存疑。defi基础上的金融服务产品,按照美国本地法律,这需要项目团队(公司),高管,都具备资质,项目团队是否具备资质,存疑。所推出的金融产品,是否合规,存疑。这些defi的产品以及 产品,的营销和宣传是否合规,存疑。
其中必然有一些好的项目和团队是做了完备合规的,但有几个?
如果不做好完备合规,传统基金不会进来,不敢进来,也不能合法向美国本地居民提供服务。
你加班救人是免费的吗?自我感觉太良好了。
你这种细分有啥意义呢?1btc还是=1btc
说明比特币并不能简单的认为是有限资源,因为它不具备传统货币的最小交易单元是绝对固定的特征。
对于比特币,表面上是有个所谓的上限,记得是2000多万个比特币,但因为交易单元可以无限小,每一次交易单元按照1/2递减的时候,其实,是和传统货币保持最小交易单元不变,发行量增倍是一样的效果。
照你这么说全世界不论是医生护士牧师教师无国界医生组织,只要不是免费的,有拿合理合法的薪水,就是图人钱财没有福报咯?不愧是金融专业,满脑子离了钱就无法运转
比特币本来就没说是传统货币啊,传统货币的发行量会随着经济增长不断上升。比特币的数量是固定的。你可以把比特币当成数字黄金,黄金的数量也是基本固定的,也可以接近无限细分。
那你就认为医护行业比别人更值得福报了?自我感觉真良好。
贵重金属钱币流通中的损耗,一个physical 物品大小的下限,都决定了以金银为主的货币不是无限可分的。否则中国历史就不会有那么几次缺银造成的钱荒最终导致政权的不稳定了。一定需要不停地生产或者输入才能满足经济发展的需求。
照这么说,比特币也不是无限可分的,因为一个transaction也是有消耗的,比如电费,机器维护,都会产生消耗。等你细分到交易一个单位的消耗比这个单位的价值还高的时候,自然就不能再分了。
早就该跌死的了
这个货币也有点儿吓人,需要增发都是得一倍一倍增发。