lancet论文:疫苗8个月后只剩负作用,损害长期抵抗力

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helloterran3
楼主 (北美华人网)


http://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19  vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune  function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of  two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated  individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations,  frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response  and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several  factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid  nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic  stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported  between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further  booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of  vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several  practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported.  These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs,  including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use  of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of  lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative  immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk  factor for infections in critically ill patients.
疫苗里的甲基伪尿苷摧毁人的免疫系统,导致原来很容易解决的细菌感染现在变得很致命,医院里许多大手术都没法做,做了就感染死人。
BA5在没咋打疫苗的南非波澜不惊的结束了,在超高接种疫苗的葡萄牙正在掀起巨浪,死人快超高历史高峰了。
最后搞不好会导致癌症。。。
免疫系统负责清除身体的癌细胞,上年纪的人容易得癌症,就是因为免疫系统减弱了

PS twtr上已经开始骂这个杂志造谣,lol
闲话鲜花
这个当初就知道啊,所以我没打疫苗。
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3906


http://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19  vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune  function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of  two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated  individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations,  frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response  and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several  factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid  nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic  stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported  between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further  booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of  vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several  practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported.  These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs,  including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use  of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of  lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative  immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk  factor for infections in critically ill patients.
疫苗里的甲基伪尿苷摧毁人的免疫系统,导致原来很容易解决的细菌感染现在变得很致命,医院里许多大手术都没法做,做了就感染死人。
BA5在没咋打疫苗的南非波澜不惊的结束了,在超高接种疫苗的葡萄牙正在掀起巨浪,死人快超高历史高峰了。
最后搞不好会导致癌症。。。
免疫系统负责清除身体的癌细胞,上年纪的人容易得癌症,就是因为免疫系统减弱了

PS twtr上已经开始骂这个杂志造谣,lol
helloterran3 发表于 2022-06-10 04:06

原lancet文章在这里:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00089-7/fulltext
根本就没有任何数据说明疫苗打过后更差。所有数据都是显示更好。
这种两三分没有peer review的comment不需要信了吧。
关于这个疫苗。嗯。我早就说过数据有造假。它就是既没什么正作用,也没什么负作用而已。
羞羞草
啊,mark一下,希望有反转啊
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Banana723
我也觉得 疫苗既没有任何帮助 也不至于大概率的损害人体 计量小 而且人体也会修复疫苗损伤 基本等于打了有较低概率副作用的近似安慰剂
雁过
我也觉得 疫苗既没有任何帮助 也不至于大概率的损害人体 计量小 而且人体也会修复疫苗损伤 基本等于打了有较低概率副作用的近似安慰剂
Banana723 发表于 2022-06-10 05:01

既然这样,不如不要打
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shantian
我觉得可信。我得寻麻疹就是因为免疫系统变弱了。我身边还有认识的人,因为免疫系统变弱导致更多问题的
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mylittle9
原lancet文章在这里:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00089-7/fulltext
根本就没有任何数据说明疫苗打过后更差。所有数据都是显示更好。
这种两三分没有peer review的comment不需要信了吧。
关于这个疫苗。嗯。我早就说过数据有造假。它就是既没什么正作用,也没什么负作用而已。
3906 发表于 2022-06-10 04:38

这个Lancet到底是个什么级别的杂志? 好像关于新冠, 疫苗的文章特别多。

没有peer reviews是什么意思? 这个文章算是发表了还是没发表?
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htmems
The lancet 医学顶级杂志啊, impact factor 快80了吧
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homenerd
The lancet 医学顶级杂志啊, impact factor 快80了吧
htmems 发表于 2022-06-10 06:13

但是这个已经成了非常政治化化的刊物,在一个学术出版物上居然以大字报那样的形式公开议论政治问题,把学术及科学问题政治化,真是奇耻大辱。
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peachypeach
回复 11楼homenerd的帖子
现在啥不政治化 纯讨论科学分分钟被拍扁
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marylander2
Lancet近几年非常政治化。如果疫苗真有问题,其它杂志会有报告。现在下结论太早。
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chopinor


http://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19  vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune  function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of  two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated  individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations,  frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response  and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several  factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid  nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic  stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported  between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further  booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of  vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several  practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported.  These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs,  including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use  of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of  lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative  immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk  factor for infections in critically ill patients.
疫苗里的甲基伪尿苷摧毁人的免疫系统,导致原来很容易解决的细菌感染现在变得很致命,医院里许多大手术都没法做,做了就感染死人。
BA5在没咋打疫苗的南非波澜不惊的结束了,在超高接种疫苗的葡萄牙正在掀起巨浪,死人快超高历史高峰了。
最后搞不好会导致癌症。。。
免疫系统负责清除身体的癌细胞,上年纪的人容易得癌症,就是因为免疫系统减弱了

PS twtr上已经开始骂这个杂志造谣,lol
helloterran3 发表于 2022-06-10 04:06

你这个造谣id咋还没被杀档,lancent的文章和你说的有毛关系,还有葡萄牙case已经讲了,你这真是吃x都赶不上热乎的
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chopinor


http://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0
Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19  vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune  function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of  two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated  individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations,  frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response  and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several  factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid  nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic  stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported  between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further  booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of  vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several  practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported.  These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs,  including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use  of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of  lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative  immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk  factor for infections in critically ill patients.
疫苗里的甲基伪尿苷摧毁人的免疫系统,导致原来很容易解决的细菌感染现在变得很致命,医院里许多大手术都没法做,做了就感染死人。
BA5在没咋打疫苗的南非波澜不惊的结束了,在超高接种疫苗的葡萄牙正在掀起巨浪,死人快超高历史高峰了。
最后搞不好会导致癌症。。。
免疫系统负责清除身体的癌细胞,上年纪的人容易得癌症,就是因为免疫系统减弱了

PS twtr上已经开始骂这个杂志造谣,lol
helloterran3 发表于 2022-06-10 04:06

还有你在中国就好好蹲地下躲着吧,下次发帖别太早了,下午4点就发今天kpi完成的不好吗
冰是睡着的水
我觉得可信。我得寻麻疹就是因为免疫系统变弱了。我身边还有认识的人,因为免疫系统变弱导致更多问题的
shantian 发表于 2022-06-10 05:20

可是我看到说很容易皮肤过敏是因为免疫太强,一有风吹草动免疫系统就激活 所以药物抑制
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SkyJapan
这个Lancet到底是个什么级别的杂志? 好像关于新冠, 疫苗的文章特别多。

没有peer reviews是什么意思? 这个文章算是发表了还是没发表?
mylittle9 发表于 2022-06-10 06:03

很有名的杂志,不是美国的,所以这种文章能够发表。
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SkyJapan
Lancet近几年非常政治化。如果疫苗真有问题,其它杂志会有报告。现在下结论太早。
marylander2 发表于 2022-06-10 06:33

FDA的辉瑞报告看了吗,能够出来也是很曲折的;政治化的是美国本土,辉瑞在政府有说客,打过疫苗的不应该玻璃心,不要一来就贴造谣标签。这个结论不早,文章里面也有数据,生活中有疫苗出事的。
芳好年华
我觉得有点道理。第二针moderna六个月后,我莫名其妙得了shingles。在家上班,压力不大,每天按时按点吃饭做运动,早睡早起。吃的也很健康,实在想不明白为啥,最后只能归结为疫苗的后遗症,因为我第一针也有很强的副作用,打针的那边,打针两周后忽然整条手臂红肿发热还痒。据说叫covid ring。肿的最厉害的部位,像座小山一样隆起在我的上臂,快一个月才好。第三针是打乱了例假,例假前乳腺痛到不行。慢慢才好转。所以我怎么也不会去打第四针了。
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chopinor
很有名的杂志,不是美国的,所以这种文章能够发表。
SkyJapan 发表于 2022-06-10 07:35

问题楼主说的文章和lancet有毛关系,他引的是一篇啥数据都没有的野鸡杂志野鸡文章
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sunychen23
楼主故意造谣,什么目的???lancet的文章哪个方面说你提到的副作用,你自己脑补做的试验???你自己发的那个link网站是洪波常年反疫苗的网站,注意是不管是新冠还是其他疫苗的阴谋论都会放那里
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SkyJapan
可是我看到说很容易皮肤过敏是因为免疫太强,一有风吹草动免疫系统就激活 所以药物抑制
冰是睡着的水 发表于 2022-06-10 07:17

免疫系统紊乱,把正常细胞当异类攻击
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SkyJapan
问题楼主说的文章和lancet有毛关系,他引的是一篇啥数据都没有的野鸡杂志野鸡文章
chopinor 发表于 2022-06-10 07:54

lancet 发过Covid19副作用的文章,这篇是引用;此杂志impactor Factor 3.6 , 可以接受。 野鸡谈不上,有些比较好的州大,教授常发的文章也就这个水平。FDA pfizer 的adVerse effect 报道,可以看看。 打过的都不希望发生不好的事,我也不希望,整个社会对疫苗这件事都很不正常。
抹茶可丽饼
回复 23楼SkyJapan的帖子
这个杂志版面费2500美元,接受率83%。不算野鸡也是灌水杂志,有钱就上。
抹茶可丽饼
看了看数据葡萄牙哪里死亡人数暴增超过历史最高了?倒是南非四个波峰各个变种都轮了个遍。一个都没少。