看看这篇文章, 这个是权威杂志了吧 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X Highlights mRNA vaccines promote sustained synthesis of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein is neurotoxic, and it impairs DNA repair mechanisms. Suppression of type I interferon responses results in impaired innate immunity. The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk to infectious diseases and cancer. Codon optimization results in G-rich mRNA that has unpredictable complex effects. springday 发表于 2022-04-22 17:36
Adenovirus会造成儿童急性肝炎是医学界早就发现的事情,不是突然出现的新病,在器官移植的病人中比较常见,健康孩子里少见,但是也是有报道的。最近出现的频率高一些,可能是因为孩子们的免疫系统因为疫情缺乏挑战和锻炼,被感染了病情比一般正常情况下要重。 健康孩子因为Adenovirus得急性肝炎的文献: [1] F. M. Munoz, P. A. Piedra, and G. J. Demmler, “Disseminated adenovirus disease in immunocompromised and immunocompetent children,” Clinical Infectious Diseases, vol. 27, no. 5, pp. 1194–1200, 1998. [2] F. Ozbay Hos ¨ ¸nut, O. Canan, F. Ozc ¨ ¸ay, and B. Bilezikc¸i, “Adenovirus infection as possible cause of acute liver failure in a healthy child: a case report,” Turkish Journal of Gastroenterology, vol. 19, no. 4, pp. 281–283, 2008. [3] N. Peled, C. Nakar, H. Huberman et al., “Adenovirus infection in hospitalized immunocompetent children,” Clinical Pediatrics, vol. 43, no. 3, pp. 223–229, 2004. [4] C. Rocholl, K. Gerber, J. Daly, A. T. Pavia, and C. L. Byington, “Adenoviral infections in children: the impact of rapid diagnosis,” Pediatrics, vol. 113, no. 1, pp. e51–e56, 2004. [5] A. Matoq and A Salahuddin, "Acute hepatitis and pancytopenia in healthy infant with adenovirus," Case Rep Pediatr. 2016;2016:8648190. doi: 10.1155/2016/8648190. Epub 2016 Jun 1.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/acute-hepatitis-of-unknown-aetiology---the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland 这里面有提到Laboratory testing has excluded hepatitis type A, B, C, and E viruses (and D where applicable) in these cases while Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus type 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and/or adenovirus have been detected in several cases.
moderna要申请了 Moderna to file for EUA of COVID-19 shot for very young kids by April end The drugmaker said two 25-microgram doses of the vaccine, a quarter of the dose given to those 18 and older, produced an antibody response similar to what was seen in a clinical trial of adults. Protection against infection from the omicron variant of the coronavirus was low. For children ages 6 months to 2 years, efficacy was 43.7 percent, and in children ages 2 to 6, it was only 37.5 percent. Moderna said the majority of the infections were mild. There were no cases of severe illness, hospitalization or death.
Adenovirus会造成儿童急性肝炎是医学界早就发现的事情,不是突然出现的新病,在器官移植的病人中比较常见,健康孩子里少见,但是也是有报道的。最近出现的频率高一些,可能是因为孩子们的免疫系统因为疫情缺乏挑战和锻炼,被感染了病情比一般正常情况下要重。 健康孩子因为Adenovirus得急性肝炎的文献: [1] F. M. Munoz, P. A. Piedra, and G. J. Demmler, “Disseminated adenovirus disease in immunocompromised and immunocompetent children,” Clinical Infectious Diseases, vol. 27, no. 5, pp. 1194–1200, 1998. [2] F. Ozbay Hos ¨ ¸nut, O. Canan, F. Ozc ¨ ¸ay, and B. Bilezikc¸i, “Adenovirus infection as possible cause of acute liver failure in a healthy child: a case report,” Turkish Journal of Gastroenterology, vol. 19, no. 4, pp. 281–283, 2008. [3] N. Peled, C. Nakar, H. Huberman et al., “Adenovirus infection in hospitalized immunocompetent children,” Clinical Pediatrics, vol. 43, no. 3, pp. 223–229, 2004. [4] C. Rocholl, K. Gerber, J. Daly, A. T. Pavia, and C. L. Byington, “Adenoviral infections in children: the impact of rapid diagnosis,” Pediatrics, vol. 113, no. 1, pp. e51–e56, 2004. [5] A. Matoq and A Salahuddin, "Acute hepatitis and pancytopenia in healthy infant with adenovirus," Case Rep Pediatr. 2016;2016:8648190. doi: 10.1155/2016/8648190. Epub 2016 Jun 1.
看看这篇文章, 这个是权威杂志了吧 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X Highlights mRNA vaccines promote sustained synthesis of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein is neurotoxic, and it impairs DNA repair mechanisms. Suppression of type I interferon responses results in impaired innate immunity. The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk to infectious diseases and cancer. Codon optimization results in G-rich mRNA that has unpredictable complex effects.
至少,阿拉巴马那几个孩子既没有感染过新冠,也没打过新冠疫苗:Investigators also say neither Covid-19 nor the Covid vaccines have anything to do with the hepatitis cases. "None of the children in the cluster tested positive for Covid-19 disease. None had previously reported Covid-19 disease," said Dr. Karen Landers, a health officer for the Alabama Department of Public Health, adding, "None of the children received Covid-19 vaccine."
至少,阿拉巴马那几个孩子既没有感染过新冠,也没打过新冠疫苗:Investigators also say neither Covid-19 nor the Covid vaccines have anything to do with the hepatitis cases. "None of the children in the cluster tested positive for Covid-19 disease. None had previously reported Covid-19 disease," said Dr. Karen Landers, a health officer for the Alabama Department of Public Health, adding, "None of the children received Covid-19 vaccine." chopincminor 发表于 2022-04-22 21:33
看看这篇文章, 这个是权威杂志了吧 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X Highlights mRNA vaccines promote sustained synthesis of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein is neurotoxic, and it impairs DNA repair mechanisms. Suppression of type I interferon responses results in impaired innate immunity. The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk to infectious diseases and cancer. Codon optimization results in G-rich mRNA that has unpredictable complex effects. springday 发表于 2022-04-22 17:36
这文章由truth of health foundation 出资赞助 这个机构是一堆信教的反疫苗的医生成立的
看看这篇文章, 这个是权威杂志了吧 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X Highlights mRNA vaccines promote sustained synthesis of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein is neurotoxic, and it impairs DNA repair mechanisms. Suppression of type I interferon responses results in impaired innate immunity. The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk to infectious diseases and cancer. Codon optimization results in G-rich mRNA that has unpredictable complex effects. springday 发表于 2022-04-22 17:36
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把自己孩子毒死了。。
人类和乙肝病毒已经共存了很久了。乙肝和艾滋一样是一个性传播疾病,你想得也不是那么容易的
大多数孩子在5岁以下
兴冲冲跑去想看看data的,结果是一篇review.
🛋️ 沙发板凳
前几天那个英国的Dr Campbell说这个,下面一堆人说是新冠疫苗打出来的,问题是得病的孩子是18个月到6岁,基本都没打疫苗,什么锅都能甩给疫苗。
这个肝炎是不是也是传染性疾病啊?四岁就肝移植 那将来咋办啊…
Adenovirus只是现在的推测,真正的致病原因还是说不清楚,生病的也都是些本来很健康的孩子,没有慢性病,也没有肝病家族史。英国有好几例是acute liver failure, 我们医院这个也是,很危急的,只有用肝移植救命。
说啥来啥,起码看看病娃的年龄段再发言好不好?
英国去年年底到现在有70多例,美国刚刚开始统计, 目前看我觉得不是那么容易人传人的,否则就远远不止这几例了。
没测到甲肝乙肝病毒。
你们这是在哪里啊?
谢谢层主科普。好像美国集中在Oklahoma?
好像英国病例比较多
据说没有查到感染过新馆的抗体
反正就是lock down打乱了人的正常生活,对小孩子的影响尤其大
是啊,如果没有疫情,这个年龄段的孩子应该早在daycare锻炼得百毒不侵了。
第一反应也是会不会是新冠的后遗症?
可怕,各种病毒妖孽都出动了
又看了看新闻,好像没有说新冠抗体的事,只说现在没有查出covid阳性,并且也没有曾经报告过covid阳性。具体倒底有没有曾经感染过新冠没有说
没有查到抗体也许是小孩子本身对新冠病毒不敏感不显性,但并不说明没有受到新冠病毒影响
小红书看到的
健康孩子因为Adenovirus得急性肝炎的文献: [1] F. M. Munoz, P. A. Piedra, and G. J. Demmler, “Disseminated adenovirus disease in immunocompromised and immunocompetent children,” Clinical Infectious Diseases, vol. 27, no. 5, pp. 1194–1200, 1998.
[2] F. Ozbay Hos ¨ ¸nut, O. Canan, F. Ozc ¨ ¸ay, and B. Bilezikc¸i, “Adenovirus infection as possible cause of acute liver failure in a healthy child: a case report,” Turkish Journal of Gastroenterology, vol. 19, no. 4, pp. 281–283, 2008.
[3] N. Peled, C. Nakar, H. Huberman et al., “Adenovirus infection in hospitalized immunocompetent children,” Clinical Pediatrics, vol. 43, no. 3, pp. 223–229, 2004.
[4] C. Rocholl, K. Gerber, J. Daly, A. T. Pavia, and C. L. Byington, “Adenoviral infections in children: the impact of rapid diagnosis,” Pediatrics, vol. 113, no. 1, pp. e51–e56, 2004.
[5] A. Matoq and A Salahuddin, "Acute hepatitis and pancytopenia in healthy infant with adenovirus," Case Rep Pediatr. 2016;2016:8648190. doi: 10.1155/2016/8648190. Epub 2016 Jun 1.
看到这些特烦人,5岁以下孩子的新冠疫苗clinical trial都没结束,得病的绝大多数孩子根本还不够年龄打疫苗!
这个adenovirus病毒是怎么传染的?孩子们小时候打的甲肝乙肝疫苗不预防吗?这个病毒怎么传染?通过食物?
成人的没结束不是也让你打了
现在的情况是没有任何一个数据实验论文说明是什么引起的,有些人就总结是儿童没有暴露在各类病毒之中,真的是可笑。医学现在就变成了我觉得是啥啥就行了吗?
你这说法才滑稽,现在医学界都在“怀疑”,没有人下定论,你就觉得是定论了。
幼儿早期的免疫系统不完善,很多病毒感染引起的免疫反应很小,机体就变成和病毒共存,比如乙肝病毒等等。这是病毒免疫学101,不懂的自然不懂。 和病毒共存是人类生存的一个条件,不然活不到能生下一代就挂了。
科学界不去论证就随便怀疑,那还要科学干嘛,更可笑的是有的人还把某个人说的话当真相一样。专家的话科学认证的世界里不是放最低一层的吗?
你说的这个跟此病有一毛钱因果关系吗?还YY别人不懂,医学论文都不敢这么写。
请问小朋友得这个肝炎的有什么症状呢?
那到底是把小孩暴露在病毒里好还是保护好
不能同意更多,不知道就是不知道,未知就是未知
说什么因为孩子没暴露在病毒中还能更bullshit吗? 说实话我觉得恰恰相反,把这些病孩都调查一下,说不定全是送day care的娃,真正家里有条件,没有送去day care的说不定都安全的,一个也不在这里头
这些医生是弱智吗?给的猜测都那么让人无语,还到处宣传,好像是真的一样,这种言论多了,还会继续探究真相吗?
这,不总得先有个猜想,然后再去论证吗?否则你要“证”啥?不要为杠而杠。
急性肝炎到肝衰竭会出现黄疸? 眼白发黄皮肤发黄?
猜测是探究真相的第一步。苯环还是梦里梦出来的呢,就不算探究真相了吗。
看32楼,会不会是儿童食品中毒呢
你这个猜想和前面别人说新冠的猜想有本质区别吗?为什么别人猜想得到的就是嘲讽?现在专家都这么不严谨了。怪不得CDC一会儿说戴口罩一会儿说不用戴。一开始医学界的人还不少人占出来说普通戴口罩反而有害。 到底谁在扛?
甲乙丙丁都不是,那这个急性肝炎叫什么? 有没有可能是肝炎病毒也变异成了一种新病毒?
你真是抗疫疯魔了
什么事情都往抗疫上面靠,你才疯魔。有本事就事论事啊。扣帽子还不是心虚。
目前好像说是腺病毒
Later analyses have revealed a possible association of this hepatitis with Adenovirus 41.
成人疫苗已经通过EUA了才给打的,哪个国家批准给5岁以下小孩打mrna疫苗了?
现在送不送孩子去幼儿园还跟家里是否有条件有关系吗? 还剩下几家纯属于无条件才送的呢?
都有论证还用怀疑吗?
论证也是现有怀疑呀, 得先有个方向啊
人家第一就怀疑新冠了呀, 但是目前显示就是没关系啊, 我觉得作为大众谨慎一些, 保留这个怀疑很正常, 但是如果非要往新冠上靠, 非要认定一定是新冠导致的,虽然别人也拿你没办法。 但是也的确跟你聊你下去, 考虑问题的方向完全不同呀
moderna要申请了
Moderna to file for EUA of COVID-19 shot for very young kids by April end
The drugmaker said two 25-microgram doses of the vaccine, a quarter of the dose given to those 18 and older, produced an antibody response similar to what was seen in a clinical trial of adults.
Protection against infection from the omicron variant of the coronavirus was low. For children ages 6 months to 2 years, efficacy was 43.7 percent, and in children ages 2 to 6, it was only 37.5 percent. Moderna said the majority of the infections were mild. There were no cases of severe illness, hospitalization or death.
这个猜想是没法论证的,或者说这些人不准备论证。过去两年全世界的孩子或多或少都呆在家里,在外面都戴着口罩。
请教一下,肝移植容易找到肝源吗?
但是欧美已经放开很久了啊……大部分孩子早就回学校一年多了吧,怎么突然就冒出这个肝炎,也是挺吓人的。话说这个肝炎只在孩子里发现吗?大人没有?
有可能是爸妈打疫苗的后遗症吗???我脑洞太大了。。。
那个女的特别会用各种噱头赚流量,她不是说了是因为他老公吃错药了吗
猜测是父母的吧。认识一个人换的肾是她妈妈的。
谢谢科普
哈哈。 大家都找到了寄托
印象中肝移植不需要整个,切一块儿下来就可以,可以亲属之间捐献
要是现在这个肝炎在欧洲病例多,尤其是英国,会不会真的跟那个阿斯利康有关系呢?也许他们选的载体腺病毒激活了成人身上已经被压制的某种腺病毒,最后传给儿童,正好儿童的免疫系统还没有成熟?
同想知道
Highlights
mRNA vaccines promote sustained synthesis of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
The spike protein is neurotoxic, and it impairs DNA repair mechanisms.
Suppression of type I interferon responses results in impaired innate immunity.
The mRNA vaccines potentially cause increased risk to infectious diseases and cancer.
Codon optimization results in G-rich mRNA that has unpredictable complex effects.
沒有一個小孩打過疫苗才奇怪吧。 雖然兒童接種率普遍低,但上百號病例不太可能一個打過新冠疫苗的都沒有。官方急著撇清反而可疑。
不見得是腦洞,可能是父母打了疫苗,shed 有毒的spike protein,傳染了小孩。
第一次听说要和乙肝病毒共存。 我印象中和乙肝病毒共存的话 应该是 大三阳病人 和小三阳病人,多年后可能会有肝硬化 肝癌的并发症 。 正常健康人应该可以产生抗体完全清除 病毒的 。 你确定和病毒共存是人类生存的一个条件?那现在世界上的AIDS病人相对于健康人都有生存优势了?
说的是阿拉巴马的那几个。南方红州很多小孩没打过一点不稀奇。
这就是我前面说的,这些孩子现在没有测出新冠阳性,之前也没有报告过新冠阳性,并没有说他们没有新冠抗体。具体曾经是否感染过新冠并不能确定吧
因为大都是五岁以下呀 ,五岁以下的疫苗还没有批准,就没有人打过呀,超过五岁的病人就少了,接种率也不高,正好没碰到很正常。
呵呵,坐等打脸。
欧美封城有3个月么?新冠都2年了现在出肝炎。
这文章由truth of health foundation 出资赞助
这个机构是一堆信教的反疫苗的医生成立的
兴冲冲跑去想看看data的,结果是一篇review.
大多数孩子在5岁以下