隔壁公寓阳性的lz,你家下水道是这样的吗?这是香港淘大花园的情况

有希望就对了
楼主 (北美华人网)
这是香港淘大花园的情况。2003年同一小区331人确诊、42人死亡。其实每天向下水道下面倒稀释过的bleach即可 2020年3月,我通过一个权威警告了政府。不过他们有没有听我就不知道了。当时我的信:
By now (March 31, 2020), there is no direct evidence that some SARS-CoV-2 patients have been infected through faecal-oral transmission. However, there is direct evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 virus is found in the faecal of patients. And in 2003, a similar virus, SARS-CoV, could have infected hundreds of people in Hong Kong through faecal-oral transmission. In 2003, an epicenter of the SARS-CoV outbreak was the Amoy Gardens in Hong Kong. There were 321 SARS cases in the Amoy Gardens by mid-April, and 41% of them were in Block E (Cotruvo et al, 2004). "Environmental investigations (Hong Kong Department of Health 2003) indicated that the U-trap in the bathroom floor drains were usually dry and that there was a cracked sewer vent pipe in Block E. Tests with oil droplets suggested that aerosols traveled upwards in the light wells (utility channels) between each floor and that droplets could enter a bathroom through the floor drain because of negative pressure generated by exhaust fans when the bathroom door was closed." (p39, Cotruvo et al, 2004) Thus, Cotruvo et al (2004) suggest "Given that the SARS virus is excreted in faeces and these results, it seems possible that SARS could have been transmitted through wastewater droplets." (p39). SARS-CoV RNA was found in the sewage water of two hospitals in Beijing treating patients with SARS. (Wang et al, 2005) The discussion of faecal-oral transmission of SARS-CoV-2 started in Feb 2020, based on the similarity between SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV/MERS-Cov. One example is the paper on The Lancet by Yeo et al. (2020). But the authors did not provide any evidence. The first evidence comes from Holshue et al. (2020). In this paper, Table 2 shows a positive case in the stool on Illness Day 7 (stool not tested on other days). In a study in Singapore (Ong et al, 2020), SARS-CoV-2 virus is found in the toilet bowl.   To sum, SARS-CoV-2 virus can be found in the faecal of patients, and it is possible to travel through malfunctioning sewers and floor drains. That''''''''s why I suggested sanitizing the toilets and drains. 
References:
Cotruvo, Joseph A., et al., eds. Waterborne zoonoses. IWA publishing, 2004.
Holshue, Michelle L., et al. "First case of 2019 novel coronavirus in the United States." New England Journal of Medicine (2020). DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2001191   ONG, Sean Wei Xiang, TAN, Yian Kim, CHIA, Po Ying, et al. Air, surface environmental, and personal protective equipment contamination by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) from a symptomatic patient. Jama, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.3227   WANG, X. W., LI, J., GUO, T., et al. Concentration and detection of SARS coronavirus in sewage from Xiao Tang Shan Hospital and the 309th Hospital of the Chinese People''''s Liberation Army. Water science and technology, 2005, vol. 52, no 8, p. 213-221.    Yeo, Charleen, Sanghvi Kaushal, and Danson Yeo. "Enteric involvement of coronaviruses: is faecal–oral transmission of SARS-CoV-2 possible?." The Lancet Gastroenterology & Hepatology 5.4 (2020): 335-337. DOI:10.1016/S2468-1253(20)30048-0
A picture indicating the problem of dry u-trap is below:
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回复 1楼有希望就对了的帖子
美国只要按code做的水管,绝对可以阻绝空气。
剑骨琴心
那 townhouse 之间是不是会安全些?

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June6666
还有通风管道呢,我家的厕所能闻到邻居洗发水的味道,要是他生病了我们估计躲不过。
公用马甲9
租的房子,谁知道啊…
有希望就对了
租的房子,谁知道啊…
公用马甲9 发表于 2022-01-04 08:59

每天向下水道下面倒稀释过的bleach即可
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Madman2020
99.99%的人都不知道吧
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jeso1
这里公寓没有floor drain,除非你2个月不洗澡,不刷牙,淋浴地漏和脸盆干了,否则U型管一直有水。
空气也不可能,新楼房都是Havac系统,室内自循环。
小金猪
要是下水道传染的话多数住公寓的人都中了吧
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shirley951951
上周收到l close contact 警告,然而已经休假一个月了,唯一可能性就是楼上喜欢浪的年轻couple,没什么事还经常party,我能听到女孩的咳嗽声,已经两周多了,那也没耽误他们浪,只能cross fingers 了。
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tracylovebobo
回复 10楼shirley951951的帖子
你的意思是你们已经一个月没出门了,但是接到自己是密接的通知?
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iewily
这里公寓没有floor drain,除非你2个月不洗澡,不刷牙,淋浴地漏和脸盆干了,否则U型管一直有水。
空气也不可能,新楼房都是Havac系统,室内自循环。
jeso1 发表于 2022-01-04 09:08

就是啊。。这的公寓没有地漏的
而且如果地漏干了室内不会很臭吗?。。难道不会发现?
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shirley951951
回复 10楼shirley951951的帖子
你的意思是你们已经一个月没出门了,但是接到自己是密接的通知?

tracylovebobo 发表于 2022-01-04 09:29

对,除了人少时候去超市,也就两次…然而我们这里超市人人戴口罩…所以肯定是楼上,天天咳嗽…..今年死活要买房了。
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freerose
哎…没有那么可怕吧?不是老弱病残不用太担心。现在的病毒即使感染了也没有大碍
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chuckle
上周收到l close contact 警告,然而已经休假一个月了,唯一可能性就是楼上喜欢浪的年轻couple,没什么事还经常party,我能听到女孩的咳嗽声,已经两周多了,那也没耽误他们浪,只能cross fingers 了。
shirley951951 发表于 2022-01-04 09:13

在美国? 美国啥地方隔壁邻居阳性都算密接?
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vitaminB
美国的浴室没有地漏。隔壁公寓阳性帖子那家估计就是住两层那种公寓,数数屋顶的排气孔就能猜到是不是跟邻居share排气道。多数是分开的,因为层数少,分开的成本不大,收益大,互相不会干扰。
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baicaiye
每天向下水道下面倒稀释过的bleach即可
有希望就对了 发表于 2022-01-04 09:03

如果是金属下水管道估计也没几年就要被腐蚀的不成样子。短时间是没有问题的,也能解决一些现在的问题。
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iheartnyc
疫情以来在纽约住了整整两年了,从来就没有公寓聚集感染的,事实上居住密度最大的曼哈顿一直是感染率最低的地区。
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NJ橘猫
还有通风管道呢,我家的厕所能闻到邻居洗发水的味道,要是他生病了我们估计躲不过。
June6666 发表于 2022-01-04 08:59

这个确实是。以前住公寓,邻居抽大麻,味道到处都是
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Gr4ce
上周收到l close contact 警告,然而已经休假一个月了,唯一可能性就是楼上喜欢浪的年轻couple,没什么事还经常party,我能听到女孩的咳嗽声,已经两周多了,那也没耽误他们浪,只能cross fingers 了。
shirley951951 发表于 2022-01-04 09:13

你这个密接 细思极恐啊 CDC规定 For COVID-19, a close contact is anyone who was within 6 feet of an infected person for a total of 15 minutes or more over a 24-hour period (for example, three individual 5-minute exposures for a total of 15 minutes).
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ecuecon
我们以前住apt 80年代盖的。就是相邻两个unit,因为卫生间相邻,就share一个出风口。 之前没问题,后来新搬进来一家,整天在卫生间抽烟。烟味太浓,我家卫生间也都是。 management修了之后,好很多,但是仍然能闻到。
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CleverBeaver
这个确实是。以前住公寓,邻居抽大麻,味道到处都是
NJ橘猫 发表于 2022-01-04 12:26

嗯 我以前也是闻到过隔壁抽烟的味道的 这里的密封做的很差
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zhengxumaomao
还有通风管道呢,我家的厕所能闻到邻居洗发水的味道,要是他生病了我们估计躲不过。
June6666 发表于 2022-01-04 08:59

这是什么通风管道