如果是转去Roth IRA,好像还是有prorate的问题。 https://www.thebalance.com/can-i-roll-after-tax-401-k-funds-to-a-roth-ira-2388224 “The catch, however, is that you must also roll over pre-tax 401(k) contributions in a proportional amount based on what you have put into your fund. So, for example, if your 401(k) has $200,000 in it, and 10% of that includes after-tax contributions, your rollover distributions will always be 10% after-tax and 90% pre-tax.” 但是如果Roll Over所有的balance包括Pre and After Tax的就无所谓了。
搭车问个低级的问题:我们公司的after tax 401k从工资contrubution rate is up to 6%. 401k + match + after tax 401k低于$58K,怎么样才能存满58k? 这个after tax 401k必须得从工资里扣的吗?单独写支票给fidelity不行吧? 心函 发表于 2021-12-31 12:04
如果是转去Roth IRA,好像还是有prorate的问题。 https://www.thebalance.com/can-i-roll-after-tax-401-k-funds-to-a-roth-ira-2388224 “The catch, however, is that you must also roll over pre-tax 401(k) contributions in a proportional amount based on what you have put into your fund. So, for example, if your 401(k) has $200,000 in it, and 10% of that includes after-tax contributions, your rollover distributions will always be 10% after-tax and 90% pre-tax.” 但是如果Roll Over所有的balance包括Pre and After Tax的就无所谓了。 ymchn 发表于 2022-01-04 14:57
我引用的原文的问题是:“搭车问,我公司有roth 401k 和 after tax 401k。In plan 转是不是after tax 401 转到roth 401,而不是转到roth IRA。另外,尽管我有别的traditional IRA,这样转不会导致按比率交税。谢谢” 我的回答是针对“after tax 401K 转到roth 401 K”,你讲的是roll over 401K 到 ROTH IRA,不是一回事。
回复 15楼的帖子 你说的第一点不对。 https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/roth-comparison-chart This limitation is by individual, rather than by plan. You can split your annual elective deferrals between designated Roth contributions and traditional pre-tax contributions, but your combined contributions can’t exceed the deferral limit - $20,500 in 2022; $19,500 in 2021 ($27,000 in 2022; $26,000 in 2021 if you''re eligible for catch-up contributions).
能不能转Roth IRA可以问你的401k broker,有些公司允许两个都可以转,能转Roth IRA最好。从401K转Roth IRA跟tradition IRA没有关系,不需要prorate交税。
这是假设72岁之前一分钱不取。那基本不可能也不正确。即使不需要,也应该在没有或者很少工资收入的时候每年取一部分出来做roth conversion. 假设马工50岁退休,50-72之间22年,足够低税率转很多。至少比35岁马工的边际税率低多了。还可以选择住在没州税的州。
而且tax bracket按通胀增加,39万在四十年后未必是高收入。也不是都按边际税率交。假设未来40年每年8%增长率也太乐观。
如果是转去Roth IRA,好像还是有prorate的问题。
https://www.thebalance.com/can-i-roll-after-tax-401-k-funds-to-a-roth-ira-2388224
“The catch, however, is that you must also roll over pre-tax 401(k) contributions in a proportional amount based on what you have put into your fund. So, for example, if your 401(k) has $200,000 in it, and 10% of that includes after-tax contributions, your rollover distributions will always be 10% after-tax and 90% pre-tax.”
但是如果Roll Over所有的balance包括Pre and After Tax的就无所谓了。
同问,怎么才能算好百分比,否则一不小心,超过一分钱也是不对的,对吗?比如想存满上限,怎么设啊,因为算税前的收入感觉不好算啊,
我想存满上限,这百分比的设置,感觉不太容易精准
同问设百分比之后如果扣到limit 会自动停吗?如果不自动停,存多了的钱要怎么处理?
另外这个百分比是按税前设吧?比如税前十万,2022年一共limit 是61000,401k limit 20500,假设没有其他contribution,after tax 自己能存 61000-20500=40500,占税前40.5%,那我直接设每个paycheck扣 40.5% (不考虑实际情况,用整数举例好计算哈),这样设最后是扣40500吧?
我引用的原文的问题是:“搭车问,我公司有roth 401k 和 after tax 401k。In plan 转是不是after tax 401 转到roth 401,而不是转到roth IRA。另外,尽管我有别的traditional IRA,这样转不会导致按比率交税。谢谢”
我的回答是针对“after tax 401K 转到roth 401 K”,你讲的是roll over 401K 到 ROTH IRA,不是一回事。
反正Roth 401k能转到Roth IRA,也没有税务问题。所以退休离职的时候就全转过去以后就没有RMD的问题了。
你说的第一点不对。 https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/roth-comparison-chart This limitation is by individual, rather than by plan. You can split your annual elective deferrals between designated Roth contributions and traditional pre-tax contributions, but your combined contributions can’t exceed the deferral limit - $20,500 in 2022; $19,500 in 2021 ($27,000 in 2022; $26,000 in 2021 if you''re eligible for catch-up contributions).