关于台湾问题,我其实是有点想法的 (摘抄)

玉萧关
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台湾问题,其实是中国国家安全的一个严重挑战,也事关国运。当然,谈及台湾,难免会涉及意识形态,也就是民主与专制的问题。
国家利益和意识形态其实是不同的层面的问题,但是国家利益的阶位显然是高于意识形态的。 中共不可能在中国永远执政,无论它有多么暴力强权,这是历史的必然,也是历史的趋势。我们看待历史,不可以局限于今日的中国。
但是中国作为一个国家实体,会永远存在下去的,也许领土和主权会不停的变更。这里就出现一个问题,我们是否因为反共就支持台独吗?答案显示是否定的。 台湾问题归根到底,不是意识形态的问题,乃是民族认同的问题。 文化和血缘认同出了问题,至于台独人士口中的民主自由,在这里已经异化,成为独立的一个遮羞布。民主和专制,都是国家治理的形态和形式。但是民主这玩意,确实需要人民素质的配合,不管我们个人如何喜欢自由,希望有民主的制度,但是你细究中国的民心,人民素质和文化土壤,多数中国人显然更习惯专制,为了二斗米,低下高贵的头,出让个人自由与权利。一声叹气也罢,捶胸顿足也罢,这是无如奈何之事。
要知道,台湾海峡是东亚的咽喉要道,是日本韩国和中国的海运生命线。到国家利益和地缘政治层面,中日旧怨未了,日本人野心极大,不仅没有战争悔过的表现,而且内心仍然把台湾当成自己的领土。如果台湾独立,日美在台湾驻军,那么中国最繁荣的东南沿海,江浙沪粤毫无安全保障可言。这还不说中国人民族情感方面的冲击。
很多人有民主原教旨主义的心态,认为民主可以包治百病,其实不然。中国也曾是亚洲第一个民主共和国,海地也是美洲非常老牌的民主国家。 这么说吧,鉴于中国人民的政治素养与文化传统,即使中国有了民主制度,也很难有正常的民主形态,大概率和今日的土耳其和俄罗斯一样。
在微信里也偶尔谈及统独,我发现身在美国的同学,更支持台湾独立。本来也是一个比较好的研究生同学, 娶了个台湾媳妇,也反共,是铁杆的台独支持者。不时会在我微信里留言有过格之言。如果是就事论事,我从来不做回应。 唯有一次,莫名其妙的说起我忘恩负义。。。。。这种涉及了人格,又毫无根据的事,让我大为光火。然后客气的对他说,我的习惯是,不在别人的微信里评论,更不会涉及私德,你既然如此评论,为了免伤和气,我不让你再看朋友圈了。
政治这个东西,是立体的多层面的,意识形态,政党利益,国家利益,民族认同,地缘政治。太过执着于一点,容易走偏。当然政治本质上就是走偏的事,尤其对于蒙昧大众而言。
玉萧关
有大局观的分析!
酒酒_
二战之后,建立了新的世界秩序,这样的背景下 所谓武统相当于强暴,是要被世界唾弃和背弃的 和平统一才算名正言顺 总而言之,全看台湾人民怎么想💁🏻
玉萧关
二战之后,建立了新的世界秩序,这样的背景下 所谓武统相当于强暴,是要被世界唾弃和背弃的 和平统一才算名正言顺 总而言之,全看台湾人民怎么想💁🏻
酒酒_ 发表于 2021-12-27 14:52

哪能指望台湾那帮都不认中国人的不肖子孙了:)
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梧桐梧桐!
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二战之后,建立了新的世界秩序,这样的背景下 所谓武统相当于强暴,是要被世界唾弃和背弃的 和平统一才算名正言顺 总而言之,全看台湾人民怎么想💁🏻
酒酒_ 发表于 2021-12-27 14:52

< 和平统一 >
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Q Chiang Ching-kuo was sent as a teenager to study in the Soviet Union during the First United Front in 1925, when his father's Nationalist Party and the Chinese Communist Party were in alliance. He attended university there and spoke Russian fluently,[2] but when the Chinese Nationalists violently broke with the Communists, Stalin sent him to work in a steel factory in the Ural Mountains. There, Chiang met and married Faina Vakhreva. When war between China and Japan was imminent in 1937, Stalin sent the couple to China. During the war Ching-kuo's father gradually came to trust him, and gave him more and more responsibilities, including administration.
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< 和平统一 >
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Q Chiang Ching-kuo was sent as a teenager to study in the Soviet Union during the First United Front in 1925, when his father's Nationalist Party and the Chinese Communist Party were in alliance. He attended university there and spoke Russian fluently,[2] but when the Chinese Nationalists violently broke with the Communists, Stalin sent him to work in a steel factory in the Ural Mountains. There, Chiang met and married Faina Vakhreva. When war between China and Japan was imminent in 1937, Stalin sent the couple to China. During the war Ching-kuo's father gradually came to trust him, and gave him more and more responsibilities, including administration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Ching-kuo UQ
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-27 20:47

Q 鄧小平曾坦言,這個人若健在兩岸必統一 https://kknews.cc › 歷史
15 July 2016 — 你絕對想不到,鄧小平曾與蔣經國是蘇聯中山大學的同窗,那時候的鄧小平,是蔣經國所在共青團小組的組長。已經掌握台灣大權的蔣經國,密切注視著他在 ...
江仁台觀點:鄧小平與蔣經國時代的兩岸互動 - 風傳媒 https://www.storm.mg › article
10 Aug 2021 — [啟動LINE推播]每日重大新聞通知1926到1927年,鄧小平與蔣經國是蘇聯莫斯科中山大學的同窗,那時候的鄧小平,是蔣經國所在共青團小組的組長。 UQ
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Q 鄧小平曾坦言,這個人若健在兩岸必統一 https://kknews.cc › 歷史
15 July 2016 — 你絕對想不到,鄧小平曾與蔣經國是蘇聯中山大學的同窗,那時候的鄧小平,是蔣經國所在共青團小組的組長。已經掌握台灣大權的蔣經國,密切注視著他在 ...
江仁台觀點:鄧小平與蔣經國時代的兩岸互動 - 風傳媒 https://www.storm.mg › article
10 Aug 2021 — [啟動LINE推播]每日重大新聞通知1926到1927年,鄧小平與蔣經國是蘇聯莫斯科中山大學的同窗,那時候的鄧小平,是蔣經國所在共青團小組的組長。 UQ
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-27 20:57

这一代台🐸指望不上了,梧桐梧桐
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耶稣说,一个人有两个儿子,小儿子要求父亲把归他的那一分家产给他,然后起身往远方去,在那里将分给他的财产挥霍一空,只能屈辱地去为人放猪为生。这时他决定回家,请求父亲的原谅。但是当他回家时,他的父亲在远处看见,就动了慈心,几乎不给他机会来表示悔改,就跑去抱着他的颈项,热切的与他亲嘴,并宰了肥牛犊庆祝小儿子的回来,又把上好的袍子给他穿,把戒指戴在他手上,把鞋穿在他脚上。大儿子听见,对无耻的小儿子受到这样的优待,而自己一直忠诚却未受过奖赏,感到生气嫉妒。他父亲就出来劝他:孩子,你始终和我同在,我一切所有的都是你的。只是你这个兄弟是死而复活,失而又得的,所以我们理当欢喜快乐。
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耶稣说,一个人有两个儿子,小儿子要求父亲把归他的那一分家产给他,然后起身往远方去,在那里将分给他的财产挥霍一空,只能屈辱地去为人放猪为生。这时他决定回家,请求父亲的原谅。但是当他回家时,他的父亲在远处看见,就动了慈心,几乎不给他机会来表示悔改,就跑去抱着他的颈项,热切的与他亲嘴,并宰了肥牛犊庆祝小儿子的回来,又把上好的袍子给他穿,把戒指戴在他手上,把鞋穿在他脚上。大儿子听见,对无耻的小儿子受到这样的优待,而自己一直忠诚却未受过奖赏,感到生气嫉妒。他父亲就出来劝他:孩子,你始终和我同在,我一切所有的都是你的。只是你这个兄弟是死而复活,失而又得的,所以我们理当欢喜快乐。
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/浪子回头的比喻 UQ
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 00:03

小儿子的救赎之路:只能屈辱地去为人放猪为生。说明了梧桐的必要性
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智統
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智統

EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 00:26

Q British Overseas Territories - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › British_Overseas_Terri...
The British Overseas Territories (BOTs), also known as United Kingdom Overseas Territories (UKOTs), are fourteen territories all with a constitutional and ... Largest territory: British Antarctic Territory Government: Devolved administrations under a ... Sovereign state: United Kingdom ‎British Overseas Territory Citizen · ‎British Antarctic Territory · ‎Anguilla

Dependent territory - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Dependent_territory
Summary: The United Kingdom has three "Crown Dependencies", thirteen "Overseas Territories" (ten autonomous, two used primarily as military bases, ... UQ
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那是殖民地的残余而已。台海战略要地,不破不立,快刀斩乱麻,战争是为了永久和平
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Wisdom shall prevail, I believe.
The total cost, tangible/ intangible both short-term/ long-term, to be potentially incurred must be counted extremely carefully.
Sometimes, a simple and linear solution may not be the best or pragmatic.
Just my thought!
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在投票支持留欧的人群中,86%的人认为英国脱欧的情况糟糕或比他们预期的要更差。总体而言,只有14%的选民表示英国脱欧的进展好于预期。
https://www.sohu.com/a/511794435_656058
根据英国媒体12月25日报道,市场调研公司Opinium的调查显示,超过六成的选民认为,在英国离开欧盟一年之后,脱欧的情况“很糟糕”或“比他们预期的更糟”。
调查还发现,在2016年投票支持脱欧的人群中,有42%对脱欧迄今的结果持负面态度。其中26%的脱欧支持者表示,脱欧的结果比他们预期的要差,16%的脱欧支持者认为,他们预期脱欧会很糟糕,而事实证明他们是对的。
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< Sometimes, a simple and linear solution may not be the best or pragmatic. >
In hindsight, many would know by now the US should not have started the Iraq war due to a hurt by the 9.11 trap.   
A downturn trending for long time ever since, till nowadays.
Q In 2020, Neta Crawford, chair of the political science department at Boston University, in her Costs of War Project, estimated the long term cost of the Iraq War for the United States at $1.922 trillion.
Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Financial_cost_of_the_Ir..

Costs of the 20-year war on terror: $8 trillion and 900000 deaths https://www.brown.edu › news › costsofwar
1 Sept 2021 — The cumulative cost of military intervention in the Iraq/Syria war zone has risen to $2.1 trillion since 9/11, and about $355 billion more has ...
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Q 千渔千寻 发表于 2021-12-25 https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2761941&&fid=384&postid=91292874#91292874
为啥中国政府不完全开放互联网?中国本科生有人口10%以上么?大多数人阅历和理性思维不到火候,对人性没有深刻的认识,会被别人洗脑煽动利用。 UQ
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< Sometimes, a simple and linear solution may not be the best or pragmatic. >
In hindsight, many would know by now the US should not have started the Iraq war due to a hurt by the 9.11 trap.   
A downturn trending for long time ever since, till nowadays.
Q In 2020, Neta Crawford, chair of the political science department at Boston University, in her Costs of War Project, estimated the long term cost of the Iraq War for the United States at $1.922 trillion.
Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Financial_cost_of_the_Ir..

Costs of the 20-year war on terror: $8 trillion and 900000 deaths https://www.brown.edu › news › costsofwar
1 Sept 2021 — The cumulative cost of military intervention in the Iraq/Syria war zone has risen to $2.1 trillion since 9/11, and about $355 billion more has ...
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EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 06:45

< 对人性没有深刻的认识 >
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Q “英军已经制定了计划,只要俄军一进攻乌克兰,驻乌英军立刻就能撤出。” 英国《每日快报》当地时间12月27日爆料,有消息人士透露,一旦发生所谓的“俄罗斯入侵乌克兰”事件,英军指挥官已制定了相应计划,在乌克兰担任培训和顾问职务的英国军队将迅速撤离到波兰。这一计划被命名为“轨道行动”。
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< Sometimes, a simple and linear solution may not be the best or pragmatic. >
In hindsight, many would know by now the US should not have started the Iraq war due to a hurt by the 9.11 trap.   
A downturn trending for long time ever since, till nowadays.
Q In 2020, Neta Crawford, chair of the political science department at Boston University, in her Costs of War Project, estimated the long term cost of the Iraq War for the United States at $1.922 trillion.
Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Financial_cost_of_the_Ir..

Costs of the 20-year war on terror: $8 trillion and 900000 deaths https://www.brown.edu › news › costsofwar
1 Sept 2021 — The cumulative cost of military intervention in the Iraq/Syria war zone has risen to $2.1 trillion since 9/11, and about $355 billion more has ...
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EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 06:45

不能和伊拉克侵略战争相比,梧桐是正义之战。中国次早需要一次战争,让全世界看清中国的实力,从而在未来的五十年到一百年,打消敌人的任何非分之想。
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给中华民族多保留一点多样性吧,即便不独立,也别统一啦!两岸和平共存,友好相处才最符合民族利益。其实只要我们敢公开宣称只要台湾不寻求独立,我们绝对不主动统一。允许台湾以中国台湾的名义全面参与国际组织,回归国际大家庭。这样才能有可能收获双方的和解和合作。当然,对于目前两边的政客,这些都是不能接受的。所以前景堪忧。
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中国的现状,是第一岛链还在紧紧的捆绑着危险着。是可忍孰不可忍!每一个中国人,都应该同心同德,团结一致,不解放台湾,不解放南海,誓不罢休
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The potential of large scale economic/trade sanction by the US due to the recently signed laws should not be underestimated.
That would possibly only help the US to spend much more in weapons, military employment, and developing domestic manufacturing. And their alliance countries.
Not worth to take the great risk through this path, seriously!
imho
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赵立坚:首先我要告诉你的是,台湾没有外交部,只有台湾省的外事负责部门。
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中国的现状,是第一岛链还在紧紧的捆绑着危险着。是可忍孰不可忍!每一个中国人,都应该同心同德,团结一致,不解放台湾,不解放南海,誓不罢休
huawei6g 发表于 2021-12-28 16:15

莫名其妙,先定义好中国人,那是拿中国护照的公民。不要随便代表其他国籍的人。
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The potential of large scale economic/trade sanction by the US due to the recently signed laws should not be underestimated.
That would possibly only help the US to spend much more in weapons, military employment, and developing domestic manufacturing. And their alliance countries.
Not worth to take the great risk through this path, seriously!
imho
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 16:30

经济制裁只有在两国实力严重失衡的情况下才有作用。贸易战已经证明,经济作战,美国不是对手
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第一岛链一直都在,都超过半个世纪了,然后中国就怎么了?突破了以后可能也不需要啥岛链了,中国直接跟全世界说拜拜了,自己玩自己的了。
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第一岛链一直都在,都超过半个世纪了,然后中国就怎么了?突破了以后可能也不需要啥岛链了,中国直接跟全世界说拜拜了,自己玩自己的了。
chenny36 发表于 2021-12-28 16:51

突破之后,中俄解放亚非拉。世界人民大团结万岁
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< 每一个中国人,>
Without incurring war, are those Chinese individuals currently living in Mainland willing to walk to Taiwan (through floating bridge or boat) to become prisoners or illegal migrants, in a number larger than the existing residents in Taiwan for the purpose of unification?
Of course there should be other paths for unification without incurring wars!?
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党的三大历史任务:1 建成社会主义现代化强国 2 实现统一大业 3 维护世界和平。目标1实现了,才能实现目标2。统一了,才能解放全世界。
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On April 9, 1974, Deng Xiaoping led a Chinese delegation to the Sixth Special Session of the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) and ... 6 July 2021

Never Seek Hegemony — China''s Voice at the UN General ... https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1227967.shtml

Never Seek Hegemony — China''s Voice at the UN General Assembly By Global Times Published: Jul 06, 2021 07:56 PM http://1253985869.vod2.myqcloud.com/ee20c49fvodtransgzp1253985869/9a7b72a43701925923516125549/v.f100030.mp4
In the 1970s, the United States and the Soviet Union stepped up their struggle for global dominance; the flaws in capitalism were coming to the fore; and developing countries across Asia, Africa and Latin America, who had long been subject to oppression, became more eager than ever to fight for national independence and grow their economies. UQ
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回复 29楼EvenOdd的帖子
中国永远不称霸。但是中国人有责任解救亚非拉受奴役的劳动人民
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I think the greatness of modern China is still young.
Perhaps nothing would be more important than stability and security, both internal and external, for another 100 years, if not 500 years!
In order to attain the long-term goals mentioned.
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I think the greatness of modern China is still young.
Perhaps nothing would be more important than stability and security, both internal and external, for another 100 years, if not 500 years!
In order to attain the long-term goals mentioned.
imho
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 17:28

Perhaps China must need to prepare and encounter the upcoming challenge of numerous troubles and traps offered by the western world, naturally.
Our lengthy culture of 5,000 years after so many testings should be a proof that China can become a great and peaceful country as always expected by the whole world.
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Perhaps China must need to prepare and encounter the upcoming challenge of numerous troubles and traps offered by the western world, naturally.
Our lengthy culture of 5,000 years after so many testings should be a proof that China can become a great and peaceful country as always expected by the whole world.
imho

EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 17:47

< imho:
Jesus-likeness represents humbleness, people-serving, taichi strength, etc. Apparently a useful mean for peacebuilding. >
Q 27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them.30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back.31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.
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Furthermore, it would be very hard to believe the world would respect modern China and Chinese culture more when internal war is incurred.
Do you still respect the US and American culture when an internal war happens tomorrow in the US?
I don''t know for sure.
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Furthermore, it would be very hard to believe the world would respect modern China and Chinese culture more when internal war is incurred.
Do you still respect the US and American culture when an internal war happens tomorrow in the US?
I don''t know for sure.
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 18:08

美国每年都在全世界打仗,世界各国尊重美国吗?梧桐不是内战,是把解放战争进行到底
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美国每年都在全世界打仗,世界各国尊重美国吗?梧桐不是内战,是把解放战争进行到底
huawei6g 发表于 2021-12-28 18:58

中国历史上的统一,都是打下来的:) 上次康熙收复台湾也是打下来的,准备了很多年的!
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美国每年都在全世界打仗,世界各国尊重美国吗?梧桐不是内战,是把解放战争进行到底
huawei6g 发表于 2021-12-28 18:58

< 美国每年都在全世界打仗 >
That"s why nobody, not even Mainland or Taiwan, should help the US for initiating another war! ?
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卧榻之上岂容他人酣睡?保家卫国,民心所向。
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Why don"t the CCP and KMT parties merged together officially soonest? !
Then the whole issue would become a party politics, as the country has been united in this most simple and cost-effective way.
Seems nobody should be able to stop their merge!
Just a party has/owns two names - One in Mainland, another in Taiwan as subsidiary!
After winning one single general election in Taiwan, other required changes to be decided by KMT then will be implemented. 
Just 2 cents!

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卧榻之上岂容他人酣睡?保家卫国,民心所向。
huawei6g 发表于 2021-12-28 21:20

< 保家卫国 >
Good Chinese, truly!
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这个不解决任何问题。台湾必须从实质上成为中国的一部分,同仇敌忾,抵御外侮。名称没有任何意义,是帮助外敌成为攻击中国的前沿阵地,还是成为南海要塞出征南海,才是真正的区别
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Why don"t the CCP and KMT parties merged together officially soonest? !
Then the whole issue would become a party politics, as the country has been united in this most simple and cost-effective way.
Seems nobody should be able to stop their merge!
Just a party has/owns two names - One in Mainland, another in Taiwan as subsidiary!
After winning one single geberal election in Taiwan, other required changes decided by KMT then will be implemented. 
Just 2 cents!


EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 21:20

Perhaps this unification form by merging two parties would be exactly what the people in Mainland and Taiwan want!
As possibly the merge solution may not be a preferred option by some posters in this forum, the civil people in Mainland and Taiwan would not want any war, as they prefer peace, I believe.
imho

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权力的归宿才是核心问题,台湾省的事务必须是中央人民政府说了算。这和两千万岛民无关,不认同中国的,他们可以去世界其他地方组建他们自己的生活方式
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< Christ-likeness can be heroic, >
I guess the merging parties format requires much contemplation and deliberation, before rejecting the format outright, if we like peace much much more than another war.
The world needs more peacebuilders to defend jutice, not warriors to start wars.
imho

Q Jesus-likeness represents humbleness, people-serving, taichi strength, etc. Apparently a useful mean for peacebuilding.
Christ-likeness can be heroic, overriding, superior, leading, highest, etc. Perhaps an overused term for already too long time.
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2762284&fid=384&page=3 UQ
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台湾必须要布满中国的东风导弹和各种反导系统,成为中国的国防第一线,和海南、青岛等,一起成为中国的核潜艇基地,保护中国的东南沿海城市。这是不管多大牺牲和代价,中国都要实现的,只有这样,中国人民才能有长久的安全
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Chinese people in both sides should be intelligent enough to avoid wars, rather than arguing whether war is a must to facilitate Chinese in war against Chinese.
imho
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Chinese people in both sides should be intelligent enough to avoid wars, rather than arguing whether war is a must to facilitate Chinese in war against Chinese.
imho
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-28 21:59

世界上应该的事情多了去了,比如美国导弹本来就不应该围绕着中国,两百年前强盗们本来就不应该入侵中国。台湾岛民本来就不应该认贼作父。我们只根据客观实际出发,不做虚无缥缈的幻想。
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Then why that we don"t hear or learn much about any talk or communication between Mainland and Taiwan.
Are there any suggested peaceful solution possibilities from anyone working hard on them? Especially the peaceful ones.
Deng said he would be happy if 60% or 70% decisions of his were right, as far as I can remember the video writing few days ago. Mao also admitted he could make some mistakes. How many world leaders never made any mistakes?
Are we going to say the US wars recently in the last 20 years were not mistakes?
Just curious!
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< 和平统一 >
Q 12月29日,国务院台湾事务办公室举行例行新闻发布会。会上彭博社记者提问,据台湾方面发布的数据显示,2021年解放军将近950架次的军机进入台湾“防控识别区”进行演训,远高于2020年380次,请问发言人对明年在台海地区的演训有何预测? 国台办发言人马晓光:明年台海局势会进一步复杂严峻,不排除我们与民进党当局谋“独”挑衅和外部势力插手干预的斗争可能更尖锐、更激烈。我们坚信我们握有主导权和主动权,我们的政策非常清楚,我们愿意以最大诚意、尽最大努力争取和平统一的前景。但如果“台独”分裂势力挑衅逼迫甚至突破红线,我们将不得不采取断然措施。
https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2021_12_29_620282.shtml UQ
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回复 28楼huawei6g的帖子
认贼作父
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< 和平统一 >
Q 12月29日,国务院台湾事务办公室举行例行新闻发布会。会上彭博社记者提问,据台湾方面发布的数据显示,2021年解放军将近950架次的军机进入台湾“防控识别区”进行演训,远高于2020年380次,请问发言人对明年在台海地区的演训有何预测? 国台办发言人马晓光:明年台海局势会进一步复杂严峻,不排除我们与民进党当局谋“独”挑衅和外部势力插手干预的斗争可能更尖锐、更激烈。我们坚信我们握有主导权和主动权,我们的政策非常清楚,我们愿意以最大诚意、尽最大努力争取和平统一的前景。但如果“台独”分裂势力挑衅逼迫甚至突破红线,我们将不得不采取断然措施。
https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2021_12_29_620282.shtml UQ
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-29 02:57

这不就是对话吗?国台办就是对话组织。敬酒不吃只有罚酒了。想拖延时间维持现状,是不可能的
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为了统一大业,为了解放亚非拉,我们不怕牺牲,
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台湾问题,其实是中国国家安全的一个严重挑战,也事关国运。当然,谈及台湾,难免会涉及意识形态,也就是民主与专制的问题。
国家利益和意识形态其实是不同的层面的问题,但是国家利益的阶位显然是高于意识形态的。 中共不可能在中国永远执政,无论它有多么暴力强权,这是历史的必然,也是历史的趋势。我们看待历史,不可以局限于今日的中国。
但是中国作为一个国家实体,会永远存在下去的,也许领土和主权会不停的变更。这里就出现一个问题,我们是否因为反共就支持台独吗?答案显示是否定的。 台湾问题归根到底,不是意识形态的问题,乃是民族认同的问题。 文化和血缘认同出了问题,至于台独人士口中的民主自由,在这里已经异化,成为独立的一个遮羞布。民主和专制,都是国家治理的形态和形式。但是民主这玩意,确实需要人民素质的配合,不管我们个人如何喜欢自由,希望有民主的制度,但是你细究中国的民心,人民素质和文化土壤,多数中国人显然更习惯专制,为了二斗米,低下高贵的头,出让个人自由与权利。一声叹气也罢,捶胸顿足也罢,这是无如奈何之事。
要知道,台湾海峡是东亚的咽喉要道,是日本韩国和中国的海运生命线。到国家利益和地缘政治层面,中日旧怨未了,日本人野心极大,不仅没有战争悔过的表现,而且内心仍然把台湾当成自己的领土。如果台湾独立,日美在台湾驻军,那么中国最繁荣的东南沿海,江浙沪粤毫无安全保障可言。这还不说中国人民族情感方面的冲击。
很多人有民主原教旨主义的心态,认为民主可以包治百病,其实不然。中国也曾是亚洲第一个民主共和国,海地也是美洲非常老牌的民主国家。 这么说吧,鉴于中国人民的政治素养与文化传统,即使中国有了民主制度,也很难有正常的民主形态,大概率和今日的土耳其和俄罗斯一样。
在微信里也偶尔谈及统独,我发现身在美国的同学,更支持台湾独立。本来也是一个比较好的研究生同学, 娶了个台湾媳妇,也反共,是铁杆的台独支持者。不时会在我微信里留言有过格之言。如果是就事论事,我从来不做回应。 唯有一次,莫名其妙的说起我忘恩负义。。。。。这种涉及了人格,又毫无根据的事,让我大为光火。然后客气的对他说,我的习惯是,不在别人的微信里评论,更不会涉及私德,你既然如此评论,为了免伤和气,我不让你再看朋友圈了。
政治这个东西,是立体的多层面的,意识形态,政党利益,国家利益,民族认同,地缘政治。太过执着于一点,容易走偏。当然政治本质上就是走偏的事,尤其对于蒙昧大众而言。
玉萧关 发表于 2021-12-27 14:02

你确实是忘恩负义!每天用着TWSM 的芯片,还给TG洗地!
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自 圆 其 说 !
Bye!
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中国现在是两条道路同时在进行。国台办一直坚持各种惠台政策为和统努力。解放军为拿下台湾和击败美日军队也在紧锣密鼓地进行战前准备。两条线同时进行,互不干扰,谁先到达目的地无所谓,哪个准备好了哪个就启动。
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< 当年的内战 >
Q ( 王毅:) 世界上只有一个中国,台湾是中国的一部分,这是不可否认的历史和法理事实。虽然海峡两岸由于当年的内战存在政治对立,但中国的国家主权和领土完整从未分割,也不可能分割,这就是台湾问题的真正现状,也是体现一中原则的“九二共识”的实质内涵,由此构成了两岸关系谋求和平发展的根基。而民进党当局执意破坏这一现状和根基,是制造台海局势紧张的罪魁祸首。美国违背中美建交时作出的承诺,纵容鼓励“台独”势力,试图歪曲和掏空一中原则,不仅将把台湾带入极其危险的境地,也将使美国面临不可承受的代价。
https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2021_12_30_620401.shtml UQ
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给中华民族多保留一点多样性吧,即便不独立,也别统一啦!两岸和平共存,友好相处才最符合民族利益。其实只要我们敢公开宣称只要台湾不寻求独立,我们绝对不主动统一。允许台湾以中国台湾的名义全面参与国际组织,回归国际大家庭。这样才能有可能收获双方的和解和合作。当然,对于目前两边的政客,这些都是不能接受的。所以前景堪忧。
chenny36 发表于 2021-12-28 16:03

Q “世界是你们的,也是我们的,但是归根结底是你们的。你们青年人朝气蓬勃,正在兴旺时期,好像早晨八九点钟的太阳。希望寄托在你们身上。”
每一代中国人都是早晨八九点钟的太阳,所以,才有了今日生气勃勃、无限希望的中国。
https://www.6parknews.com/newspark/view.php?app=news&act=view&nid=525050 UQ
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< 当年的内战 >
Q ( 王毅:) 世界上只有一个中国,台湾是中国的一部分,这是不可否认的历史和法理事实。虽然海峡两岸由于当年的内战存在政治对立,但中国的国家主权和领土完整从未分割,也不可能分割,这就是台湾问题的真正现状,也是体现一中原则的“九二共识”的实质内涵,由此构成了两岸关系谋求和平发展的根基。而民进党当局执意破坏这一现状和根基,是制造台海局势紧张的罪魁祸首。美国违背中美建交时作出的承诺,纵容鼓励“台独”势力,试图歪曲和掏空一中原则,不仅将把台湾带入极其危险的境地,也将使美国面临不可承受的代价。
https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2021_12_30_620401.shtml UQ

EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-30 03:12

王毅总结说:美国违背中美建交时作出的承诺,纵容鼓励“台独”势力,试图歪曲和掏空一中原则,不仅将把台湾带入极其危险的境地,也将使美国面临不可承受的代价。中国实现统一,是不可阻挡的大势;“台独”走向失败,是不可避免的结局。台湾除了和大陆统一,没有任何其它的出路,这是历史的必然,也是现实的逻辑。
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< 和平统一 >
Q 12月29日,国务院台湾事务办公室举行例行新闻发布会。会上彭博社记者提问,据台湾方面发布的数据显示,2021年解放军将近950架次的军机进入台湾“防控识别区”进行演训,远高于2020年380次,请问发言人对明年在台海地区的演训有何预测? 国台办发言人马晓光:明年台海局势会进一步复杂严峻,不排除我们与民进党当局谋“独”挑衅和外部势力插手干预的斗争可能更尖锐、更激烈。我们坚信我们握有主导权和主动权,我们的政策非常清楚,我们愿意以最大诚意、尽最大努力争取和平统一的前景。但如果“台独”分裂势力挑衅逼迫甚至突破红线,我们将不得不采取断然措施。
https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2021_12_29_620282.shtml UQ
EvenOdd 发表于 2021-12-29 02:57

Q 人民至上 生命至上|中国承诺,一诺千金! 2021年12月30日| 来源:人民网-国际频道
“诚信者,天下之结也。”诚信是结交天下的根本,言出必践向来是中国的优良传统。在国际舞台上,中国一言九鼎、一诺千金。过去一年,习近平主席在国际场合庄严做出或重申中国承诺、提出中国倡议、提供中国方案。聚焦解决当今世界最紧迫的问题,中国展现了大国担当、履行了大国责任、做出了大国贡献。
http://world.people.com.cn/n1/2021/1230/c1002-32320306.html UQ