A 4-year-old Texas girl has died of COVID-19 — which she likely contracted from her mom, a staunch anti-vaxxer, the grieving parent said. Little Kali Cook died in her sleep at home in Bacliff on Tuesday, just five hours after she woke in the early hours with the first signs of a fever, mom Karra Harwood told local media. “Kali was perfectly fine, and then she was gone,” the shattered mother told the Houston Chronicle. “It took her so fast.” Harwood said she had tested positive the previous day, with her and her fiancé, William Tucker, already out of work because they were sick and quarantining at home. “I tried to stay away from her and didn’t want her and my other kids to get it,” she told the Galveston County Daily News of Kali and her brother and 5-month-old sister, both of whom also got infected. The mom admitted that she now regrets opposing COVID-19 vaccines. In Texas, the vaccination rate is just a fraction over 50 percent, Johns Hopkins University data shows. “I was one of the people that was anti, I was against it,” she told her local paper of the shots. “Now, I wish I never was,” she admitted.
Grandfather passed away due to old age, cause of death listed as Covid with no test. My grandfather passed away last week. He was old, 94 and had been on the decline for a while due to congestive heart failure. Absolutely no exposure to covid. He passed away at home. Was revived through CPR on the way to the ER but he was brain dead by the time he arrived due to a lack of oxygen. On his paperwork, the cause of death is listed as, “Covid-19” and say nothing about his previous well documented conditions. No Covid test was run and no autopsy was performed because of his age. It makes me so angry. When discussing funeral expenses, the funeral director was excited when she saw the paperwork, “He died of covid! So you get 9k back from the government. Now you don’t have to worry about money”. We refused the money and instead questioned why. She said, “Oh, well the hospitals just have to assume everyone that comes to the ER has Covid and that’s why they it’s listed as the cause of death”. Yet I’m supposed to believe this bullshit. That numbers are accurate when I’ve seen first hand, the fact that numbers are inflated and fake. The whole thing just makes me so sad and angry. Edit: For those of you asking for “proof”, I will post his death certificate when I have a copy. However, not sure how that will prove anything to you, being that it states, “Covid” and nothing else. You can just as easily argue that he did have covid. I didn’t post to ask for validation, more to vent my grief over the situation and how saddened it made me to see this issue first hand. I really give no fuck if people believe it or not. I watched my grandfather die. He didn’t have Covid. For those disputing the 9k that the funeral home was so excited about, here is the link to FEMA: https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths
FEMA to Help Pay Funeral Costs for COVID-19-Related Deaths Release DateRelease NumberMarch 24, 2021HQ-21-071 Release Date: March 24, 2021 WASHINGTON -- In early April, FEMA will begin providing financial assistance for funeral expenses incurred after Jan. 20, 2020 for deaths related to coronavirus (COVID-19) to help ease some of the financial stress and burden caused by the pandemic. The policy was finalized today, and FEMA is now moving rapidly to implement this funeral assistance program nationwide. "At FEMA, our mission is to help people before, during and after disasters," said Acting FEMA Administrator Bob Fenton. “The COVID-19 pandemic has caused immense grief for so many people. Although we cannot change what has happened, we affirm our commitment to help with funeral and burial expenses that many families did not anticipate." To be eligible for COVID-19 funeral assistance, the policy states: The applicant must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien who incurred funeral expenses after Jan. 20, 2020 for a death attributed to COVID-19. If multiple individuals contributed toward funeral expenses, they should apply under a single application as applicant and co-applicant. FEMA will also consider documentation from other individuals not listed as the applicant and co-applicant who may have incurred funeral expenses as part of the registration for the deceased individual. An applicant may apply for multiple deceased individuals. The COVID-19-related death must have occurred in the United States, including the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. This assistance is limited to a maximum financial amount of $9,000 per funeral and a maximum of $35,500 per application. Funeral assistance is intended to assist with expenses for funeral services and interment or cremation. In the coming weeks, a dedicated 800 number will be established to help individuals who apply. In the meantime, potential applicants are encouraged to start gathering the following documentation: An official death certificate that attributes the death to COVID-19 and shows that the death occurred in the United States. The death certificate must indicate the death “may have been caused by” or “was likely the result of” COVID-19 or COVID-19-like symptoms. Similar phrases that indicate a high likelihood of COVID-19 are considered sufficient attribution. Funeral expense documents (receipts, funeral home contract, etc.) that include the applicant’s name, the deceased individual’s name, the amount of funeral expenses and dates the funeral expenses were incurred. Proof of funds received from other sources specifically for use toward funeral costs. Funeral assistance may not duplicate benefits received from burial or funeral insurance, financial assistance received from voluntary agencies, federal/state/local/tribal/territorial government programs or agencies, or other sources. For more information about this assistance, visit COVID-19 Funeral Assistance | FEMA.gov.
FEMA to Help Pay Funeral Costs for COVID-19-Related Deaths Release DateRelease NumberMarch 24, 2021HQ-21-071 Release Date: March 24, 2021 WASHINGTON -- In early April, FEMA will begin providing financial assistance for funeral expenses incurred after Jan. 20, 2020 for deaths related to coronavirus (COVID-19) to help ease some of the financial stress and burden caused by the pandemic. The policy was finalized today, and FEMA is now moving rapidly to implement this funeral assistance program nationwide. "At FEMA, our mission is to help people before, during and after disasters," said Acting FEMA Administrator Bob Fenton. “The COVID-19 pandemic has caused immense grief for so many people. Although we cannot change what has happened, we affirm our commitment to help with funeral and burial expenses that many families did not anticipate." To be eligible for COVID-19 funeral assistance, the policy states: The applicant must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien who incurred funeral expenses after Jan. 20, 2020 for a death attributed to COVID-19. If multiple individuals contributed toward funeral expenses, they should apply under a single application as applicant and co-applicant. FEMA will also consider documentation from other individuals not listed as the applicant and co-applicant who may have incurred funeral expenses as part of the registration for the deceased individual. An applicant may apply for multiple deceased individuals. The COVID-19-related death must have occurred in the United States, including the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. This assistance is limited to a maximum financial amount of $9,000 per funeral and a maximum of $35,500 per application. Funeral assistance is intended to assist with expenses for funeral services and interment or cremation. In the coming weeks, a dedicated 800 number will be established to help individuals who apply. In the meantime, potential applicants are encouraged to start gathering the following documentation: An official death certificate that attributes the death to COVID-19 and shows that the death occurred in the United States. The death certificate must indicate the death “may have been caused by” or “was likely the result of” COVID-19 or COVID-19-like symptoms. Similar phrases that indicate a high likelihood of COVID-19 are considered sufficient attribution. Funeral expense documents (receipts, funeral home contract, etc.) that include the applicant’s name, the deceased individual’s name, the amount of funeral expenses and dates the funeral expenses were incurred. Proof of funds received from other sources specifically for use toward funeral costs. Funeral assistance may not duplicate benefits received from burial or funeral insurance, financial assistance received from voluntary agencies, federal/state/local/tribal/territorial government programs or agencies, or other sources. For more information about this assistance, visit COVID-19 Funeral Assistance | FEMA.gov. 不娶何撩 发表于 2021-09-14 16:50
我想人家不是说这个FEMA的link是假的,而是那个grandpa 的故事。 好吧,就算这个故事是真的,我想知道这个故事说明了什么? COVID没有那么严重? 没有死很多人?COVID死亡率大大低于现在的统计?去年在川普的时候,就有很多这样的故事,当时的说法的是民主党的坏蛋们人为的把Covid 数据变高,以阻止川普连任。现在拜登在台上,他要这么做干什么?嫌自己的支持率不够低? 啊,另一个解释是肯定是与疫苗公司勾结。可是在医院里,死亡原因是当班医生写的。记住,不是什么administrative staff。所以所有医生都有意虚报死亡原因,这个阴谋网好大呀?“Oh, well the hospitals just have to assume everyone that comes to the ER has Covid and that’s why they it’s listed as the cause of death” 一个 nobody 的funeral director的自己猜测,就当做铁证了? 是不是所有这段时间的人死亡都算COVID?有数据支持吗?
一个地方新闻台贴了个Facebook 帖子, 让大家分享没打疫苗的人死掉的故事, 看看大家分享的东西吧 Some local news station put up a Facebook post asking people to share their stories of unvaccinated loved ones who died. The response they got is NOT what they were expecting I bet! This is pretty incredible. this is the link: https://www.facebook.com/110047718058030/posts/117910867271715/?d=n Asiya Ali Great to hear the truth coming out. My friend took the depop and got shingles. I told her to report it. To this day I don’t think she ever did. Michelle PG This is scary. I lost a friend of covid. She was vaccinated two months before contracting the virus and ended up dying from the virus. Sherri Goldman Kim Don’t know anyone that died of Covid. However after being fully vaccinated , know 2 people that needed open heart surgery, 1 man put on a heart monitor 1 man developed Leukemia, and 1 man that developed and died from lymph node cancer. All of these people are in their 70’s and the one that died was 80. We can’t trust our Media and our Doctors are killing us. Is there a vaccine for this, which is the real pandemic. Mary Hannah Mouawad Recently my mother inlaw at the age of 88, was still in good mind, and healthy, the next day after vaccine she woke up and fell on floor as she didn’t feel her legs, since then she is in so much pain, and laying down weak everyday, before the 1st vaccine she was walking every where, as her daughters live 1 around the corner and one on top of the street, she is a very dedicated church server and has been for 50 years, I’m very sad that her sons thought it was fine to let her get vaccine, Joanne Tanner I just spent 12 days in the hospital not dying after not getting it. But I can’t say the same for the ridiculously high number of people who didn’t make it who were jabbed! Beth Shapiro I had 3 different clients in the past 2 weeks tell me of 3 people (relatives or friends) who suddenly died. All had been vaccinated. Perfectly healthy before getting it. My friend who was only 42 died suddenly 3 months after having a baby. She had gotten the vax a few months before. This is insanity!!! Yvonne Walker My uncle died 3 months after the jab. He got sick immediately and continued to get worse until he died. He couldn’t breathe 后面无数, 大家自己看看吧
一个地方新闻台贴了个Facebook 帖子, 让大家分享没打疫苗的人死掉的故事, 看看大家分享的东西吧 Some local news station put up a Facebook post asking people to share their stories of unvaccinated loved ones who died. The response they got is NOT what they were expecting I bet! This is pretty incredible. this is the link: https://www.facebook.com/110047718058030/posts/117910867271715/?d=n Asiya Ali Great to hear the truth coming out. My friend took the depop and got shingles. I told her to report it. To this day I don’t think she ever did. Michelle PG This is scary. I lost a friend of covid. She was vaccinated two months before contracting the virus and ended up dying from the virus. Sherri Goldman Kim Don’t know anyone that died of Covid. However after being fully vaccinated , know 2 people that needed open heart surgery, 1 man put on a heart monitor 1 man developed Leukemia, and 1 man that developed and died from lymph node cancer. All of these people are in their 70’s and the one that died was 80. We can’t trust our Media and our Doctors are killing us. Is there a vaccine for this, which is the real pandemic. Mary Hannah Mouawad Recently my mother inlaw at the age of 88, was still in good mind, and healthy, the next day after vaccine she woke up and fell on floor as she didn’t feel her legs, since then she is in so much pain, and laying down weak everyday, before the 1st vaccine she was walking every where, as her daughters live 1 around the corner and one on top of the street, she is a very dedicated church server and has been for 50 years, I’m very sad that her sons thought it was fine to let her get vaccine, Joanne Tanner I just spent 12 days in the hospital not dying after not getting it. But I can’t say the same for the ridiculously high number of people who didn’t make it who were jabbed! Beth Shapiro I had 3 different clients in the past 2 weeks tell me of 3 people (relatives or friends) who suddenly died. All had been vaccinated. Perfectly healthy before getting it. My friend who was only 42 died suddenly 3 months after having a baby. She had gotten the vax a few months before. This is insanity!!! Yvonne Walker My uncle died 3 months after the jab. He got sick immediately and continued to get worse until he died. He couldn’t breathe 后面无数, 大家自己看看吧
一个地方新闻台贴了个Facebook 帖子, 让大家分享没打疫苗的人死掉的故事, 看看大家分享的东西吧 Some local news station put up a Facebook post asking people to share their stories of unvaccinated loved ones who died. The response they got is NOT what they were expecting I bet! This is pretty incredible. this is the link: https://www.facebook.com/110047718058030/posts/117910867271715/?d=n Asiya Ali Great to hear the truth coming out. My friend took the depop and got shingles. I told her to report it. To this day I don’t think she ever did. Michelle PG This is scary. I lost a friend of covid. She was vaccinated two months before contracting the virus and ended up dying from the virus. Sherri Goldman Kim Don’t know anyone that died of Covid. However after being fully vaccinated , know 2 people that needed open heart surgery, 1 man put on a heart monitor 1 man developed Leukemia, and 1 man that developed and died from lymph node cancer. All of these people are in their 70’s and the one that died was 80. We can’t trust our Media and our Doctors are killing us. Is there a vaccine for this, which is the real pandemic. Mary Hannah Mouawad Recently my mother inlaw at the age of 88, was still in good mind, and healthy, the next day after vaccine she woke up and fell on floor as she didn’t feel her legs, since then she is in so much pain, and laying down weak everyday, before the 1st vaccine she was walking every where, as her daughters live 1 around the corner and one on top of the street, she is a very dedicated church server and has been for 50 years, I’m very sad that her sons thought it was fine to let her get vaccine, Joanne Tanner I just spent 12 days in the hospital not dying after not getting it. But I can’t say the same for the ridiculously high number of people who didn’t make it who were jabbed! Beth Shapiro I had 3 different clients in the past 2 weeks tell me of 3 people (relatives or friends) who suddenly died. All had been vaccinated. Perfectly healthy before getting it. My friend who was only 42 died suddenly 3 months after having a baby. She had gotten the vax a few months before. This is insanity!!! Yvonne Walker My uncle died 3 months after the jab. He got sick immediately and continued to get worse until he died. He couldn’t breathe 后面无数, 大家自己看看吧
一个地方新闻台贴了个Facebook 帖子, 让大家分享没打疫苗的人死掉的故事, 看看大家分享的东西吧 Some local news station put up a Facebook post asking people to share their stories of unvaccinated loved ones who died. The response they got is NOT what they were expecting I bet! This is pretty incredible. this is the link: https://www.facebook.com/110047718058030/posts/117910867271715/?d=n Asiya Ali Great to hear the truth coming out. My friend took the depop and got shingles. I told her to report it. To this day I don’t think she ever did. Michelle PG This is scary. I lost a friend of covid. She was vaccinated two months before contracting the virus and ended up dying from the virus. Sherri Goldman Kim Don’t know anyone that died of Covid. However after being fully vaccinated , know 2 people that needed open heart surgery, 1 man put on a heart monitor 1 man developed Leukemia, and 1 man that developed and died from lymph node cancer. All of these people are in their 70’s and the one that died was 80. We can’t trust our Media and our Doctors are killing us. Is there a vaccine for this, which is the real pandemic. Mary Hannah Mouawad Recently my mother inlaw at the age of 88, was still in good mind, and healthy, the next day after vaccine she woke up and fell on floor as she didn’t feel her legs, since then she is in so much pain, and laying down weak everyday, before the 1st vaccine she was walking every where, as her daughters live 1 around the corner and one on top of the street, she is a very dedicated church server and has been for 50 years, I’m very sad that her sons thought it was fine to let her get vaccine, Joanne Tanner I just spent 12 days in the hospital not dying after not getting it. But I can’t say the same for the ridiculously high number of people who didn’t make it who were jabbed! Beth Shapiro I had 3 different clients in the past 2 weeks tell me of 3 people (relatives or friends) who suddenly died. All had been vaccinated. Perfectly healthy before getting it. My friend who was only 42 died suddenly 3 months after having a baby. She had gotten the vax a few months before. This is insanity!!! Yvonne Walker My uncle died 3 months after the jab. He got sick immediately and continued to get worse until he died. He couldn’t breathe 后面无数, 大家自己看看吧
你一定要说英国卫生局发布的数据是“纯造谣”,正常人都没办法接下去了。
不过,你以上的言论是一个“纯造谣”的最佳案例。
那个帖子我看到了,不过后来发现被移走,我就懒得回了。
那个数据很好理解。
第一,英国打的是AZ。早就有报道,AZ对Delta的防感染效果一般 ,但防重症的效果不错。 这个数据是关于感染而不是重症的。
第二,似乎疫苗对年龄大的效果不好,年龄小的效果好。其实不然。 我觉得和年龄没关系, 而是和你什么时候打疫苗有关系。 英国和美国一样,年龄越大打得越早,一月到现在,抗体量减低了很多,就抵挡不住了。 年轻的打得晚, 所以保护力还有
第三,老年group的vaccine率高。英国现在平均80%, 所以老年人group都超过90% 了。所以在疫苗过了6个月没什么保护感染作用(还是能保护重症)的情况下,你发现老年人group感染的绝大多数都是打了疫苗的。这是数学,不能证明疫苗的无效性或反效性。
那个楼主的数据本身没有造谣,最多说misleading, 因为他的意思很明显,特意把那个老年数据圈出来,意思就是疫苗无效或反而加重感染机会。 接下来第一和第二评论是同一个人的,很有阴谋论和胡说八道的味道。 英国居然不造假?? 从流感疫苗开始,疫苗就是用来传播病毒的
当然我不赞成把这个楼移走的。留在鲜花版让人反驳我也是同意的
人家圈了几个年龄组,也不算misleading吧。正确解读也不应当看圈的那两列,而是最后两列,打没打疫苗的在相应组里的感染率才是重点。
抛开其他各种表格里没有的因素,直观的解读是40-79岁里不打疫苗感染率比较低,其他年龄段打疫苗感染率比较低。至于说明了什么,仁者见仁,智者见智。
但有一点不应当忽略的,那就是应当用动态的眼光去评判疫苗的效果。未来面对的变种,每个人的身体,家庭和工作情况,都截然不同。用任何一种一刀切的手段来抗疫都是不科学,不可持续的。
个例没有啥意义 需要全美的统计数据,各个年龄段新冠死亡率
理解指数的,就知道少传染几个人有多重要。
你这句话’40-79岁里不打疫苗感染率比较低” 就是我说的misleading,因为你没有考虑到这些年龄组打了疫苗和没有打疫苗人数的比例。 如果一个国家100%的人都打了疫苗, 你说这个国家100%的cases都是属于打过疫苗的。你说的的确是事实,但把另一个事实omit掉了。 That's the very definition of misleading.
其实,你这句连misleading都算不上,完全就是错的。 感染率的分母是什么。40-79岁里不打疫苗感染率应该是 (40-79岁不打疫苗而且被感染 )/ 40-79岁不打疫苗总人数。 你用的是40-79岁总人数作为分母, 当然不对。
看不出任何MISLEADING的地方。简单直接的数据最说明问题。误导人的,是一堆通过各种牛比的统计方法,说疫苗是99%有效的那些人。
那个表格,只不过印证了一直被封杀的说法而已。其实要看最后两列
你完全没有去看报告吧,想当然地批判。
分母当然是某年龄段打或者没打疫苗的总人数,否则怎么会出现80+看绝对人数疫苗组不占优势但看百分比就截然相反的现象。
跟你一样,支持疫苗,反对强制疫苗。 既然支持疫苗说小孩子没疫苗,那疫苗对所有小孩放开好了,随便打,但也不应当允许强制,比如上学要求什么的。
我个人坚决反对强制给几岁的小孩子打疫苗,强制第三针。
说疫苗是99%有效, 是那个所谓的从年初没有打疫苗是算死亡病例的方法吧。那个99%的确是误导, 和帖子的误导方式一模一样。95%有效是疫苗厂家的数据,而且是针对野生株。 看看我前面写的三点, 不同意欢迎讨论。
紫薯
坚决反对强制新冠疫苗 第二针导致我心脏出问题一直没好 er都去了两次
那算给我看看怎么40-79岁里不打疫苗感染率比较低?分母数值是什么?我大致看了一下,老年组这个比例和人群打疫苗 VS 不打疫苗的比例基本一样啊 。
儿童疫苗更是要慎之又慎
但很多anti-vaxxer認為報紙上的都是假新聞假數據,他們只相信自己圈裡的自媒體和流言,認為相信主流傳媒的人不會獨立思考... 這些人真的沒藥救
你这种情况不是少数,有很多帖子说了。可惜现在媒体不给报道,更别提大规模。估计会强制小孩打,不打不让上学。
一切的真相,只能交给时间。
看了這些例子,我開始懷疑為什麼有人說極右保守派是善良的人。但凡有一點為他人考慮的意識,就不應該一邊反疫苗反口罩,得病後又理直氣壯去ICU佔床位,沒有比這更自私的了。
44天。。这种上呼吸器44天的,对脑子和身体其他部分的不可逆影响肯定会有一些的吧?不懂,瞎推测
请仔细读102楼及原数据,比较表格最后两列。
即使是传给家人,家人症状也要轻的很多
记得你也是个大厂的高知啊,什么时候沦落到这种不入流的帖子、传闻都信以为真的地步的啊?
黑人疫苗率全美垫底,黑人大多是民主党支持者吧。
医疗系统真是愚蠢,这种可以打疫苗但是选择不打的,直接降低优先度,如果其他人需要ICU,直接把他们踢出去。
自己作死就让他们死好了。
经常生病的孩子父母就更应该打疫苗保护她们。 我家亲戚的亲戚也是,自己孩子有病,大人也不打疫苗。他自己得了新冠,躲到打了疫苗的老妈家。好了以后,仍反智,又得第二次新冠, 直接进了ICU.
are you serious?
do you think this fema gov link is FAKE?
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210324/fema-help-pay-funeral-costs-covid-19-related-deaths
FEMA to Help Pay Funeral Costs for COVID-19-Related Deaths
Release DateRelease NumberMarch 24, 2021HQ-21-071 Release Date: March 24, 2021 WASHINGTON -- In early April, FEMA will begin providing financial assistance for funeral expenses incurred after Jan. 20, 2020 for deaths related to coronavirus (COVID-19) to help ease some of the financial stress and burden caused by the pandemic. The policy was finalized today, and FEMA is now moving rapidly to implement this funeral assistance program nationwide. "At FEMA, our mission is to help people before, during and after disasters," said Acting FEMA Administrator Bob Fenton. “The COVID-19 pandemic has caused immense grief for so many people. Although we cannot change what has happened, we affirm our commitment to help with funeral and burial expenses that many families did not anticipate." To be eligible for COVID-19 funeral assistance, the policy states: The applicant must be a U.S. citizen, non-citizen national, or qualified alien who incurred funeral expenses after Jan. 20, 2020 for a death attributed to COVID-19. If multiple individuals contributed toward funeral expenses, they should apply under a single application as applicant and co-applicant. FEMA will also consider documentation from other individuals not listed as the applicant and co-applicant who may have incurred funeral expenses as part of the registration for the deceased individual. An applicant may apply for multiple deceased individuals. The COVID-19-related death must have occurred in the United States, including the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. This assistance is limited to a maximum financial amount of $9,000 per funeral and a maximum of $35,500 per application. Funeral assistance is intended to assist with expenses for funeral services and interment or cremation. In the coming weeks, a dedicated 800 number will be established to help individuals who apply. In the meantime, potential applicants are encouraged to start gathering the following documentation: An official death certificate that attributes the death to COVID-19 and shows that the death occurred in the United States. The death certificate must indicate the death “may have been caused by” or “was likely the result of” COVID-19 or COVID-19-like symptoms. Similar phrases that indicate a high likelihood of COVID-19 are considered sufficient attribution. Funeral expense documents (receipts, funeral home contract, etc.) that include the applicant’s name, the deceased individual’s name, the amount of funeral expenses and dates the funeral expenses were incurred. Proof of funds received from other sources specifically for use toward funeral costs. Funeral assistance may not duplicate benefits received from burial or funeral insurance, financial assistance received from voluntary agencies, federal/state/local/tribal/territorial government programs or agencies, or other sources. For more information about this assistance, visit COVID-19 Funeral Assistance | FEMA.gov.
共用马甲是用来膈应人的吗?躲在公马后面说人闲话,你真入流。
they are sore losers
你这个说的对。德州州长就是明知故犯,以讹传讹。有数据,有科学依据,却背道而驰,其心可诛。愚民是他们最好的票仓。
抗体没有疫苗有用的。知道有一人四月份得了,在家挺了一周。八月份又得了,这一次就没那么幸运了。在icu治了一周多才出院。
我怎么觉得楼主贴的那个才是不入流的帖子、传闻呢!
啥呀,自然抗体最近被证明比疫苗强不少
求source
我想人家不是说这个FEMA的link是假的,而是那个grandpa 的故事。
好吧,就算这个故事是真的,我想知道这个故事说明了什么? COVID没有那么严重? 没有死很多人?COVID死亡率大大低于现在的统计?去年在川普的时候,就有很多这样的故事,当时的说法的是民主党的坏蛋们人为的把Covid 数据变高,以阻止川普连任。现在拜登在台上,他要这么做干什么?嫌自己的支持率不够低? 啊,另一个解释是肯定是与疫苗公司勾结。可是在医院里,死亡原因是当班医生写的。记住,不是什么administrative staff。所以所有医生都有意虚报死亡原因,这个阴谋网好大呀?“Oh, well the hospitals just have to assume everyone that comes to the ER has Covid and that’s why they it’s listed as the cause of death” 一个 nobody 的funeral director的自己猜测,就当做铁证了? 是不是所有这段时间的人死亡都算COVID?有数据支持吗?
前者的可能性比较大,你不知道阴谋论可以夸张到什么地步
Some local news station put up a Facebook post asking people to share their stories of unvaccinated loved ones who died.
The response they got is NOT what they were expecting I bet! This is pretty incredible.
this is the link: https://www.facebook.com/110047718058030/posts/117910867271715/?d=n
Asiya Ali Great to hear the truth coming out. My friend took the depop and got shingles. I told her to report it. To this day I don’t think she ever did.
Michelle PG This is scary. I lost a friend of covid. She was vaccinated two months before contracting the virus and ended up dying from the virus.
Sherri Goldman Kim Don’t know anyone that died of Covid. However after being fully vaccinated , know 2 people that needed open heart surgery, 1 man put on a heart monitor 1 man developed Leukemia, and 1 man that developed and died from lymph node cancer. All of these people are in their 70’s and the one that died was 80. We can’t trust our Media and our Doctors are killing us. Is there a vaccine for this, which is the real pandemic.
Mary Hannah Mouawad Recently my mother inlaw at the age of 88, was still in good mind, and healthy, the next day after vaccine she woke up and fell on floor as she didn’t feel her legs, since then she is in so much pain, and laying down weak everyday, before the 1st vaccine she was walking every where, as her daughters live 1 around the corner and one on top of the street, she is a very dedicated church server and has been for 50 years, I’m very sad that her sons thought it was fine to let her get vaccine,
Joanne Tanner I just spent 12 days in the hospital not dying after not getting it. But I can’t say the same for the ridiculously high number of people who didn’t make it who were jabbed!
Beth Shapiro I had 3 different clients in the past 2 weeks tell me of 3 people (relatives or friends) who suddenly died. All had been vaccinated. Perfectly healthy before getting it. My friend who was only 42 died suddenly 3 months after having a baby. She had gotten the vax a few months before. This is insanity!!!
Yvonne Walker My uncle died 3 months after the jab. He got sick immediately and continued to get worse until he died. He couldn’t breathe
后面无数, 大家自己看看吧
我们大人现在能做的就是打上疫苗,多注意防护,尽量减缓病毒传播。以后这样的悲剧才更少。虽然说这家孩子得确是运气不好,但说实话这种anti-vax的人可以想象到他们平时对待病毒的态度,他们对病毒的防护。他们作为家长是不是有责任只有自己知道。这个妈妈也说了,后悔没打疫苗。
我有个闺蜜得了2次,疫情刚开始,和去年冬天。 第二次比第一次严重。 今年4月可以打疫苗时就赶紧去打了。
这个看着挺可怕的?希望重视副作用,改进一下疫苗
Shocking. 媒体不要整天为疫苗造势了,药厂好好研究一下这些副作用吧。整天这样只会让人更失去信心。
这是能改进的吗, 全新技术的疫苗,几个月的时间,几大公司研发的疫苗都成功了, 可能吗
你是。。。。看不懂中文还是英文。。。
breakthrough嘛两者都有的。两相比较的话就有区别
你竟然相信Facebook上面陌生人的帖子?不相信自己的医生和护士?
這個我也看了,大型翻車現場。 無數親人朋友打了疫苗後心髒病,中風,得covid的人留言,真正沒打疫苗得病死的幾乎沒有。
一个rapper贴说她cousin不打疫苗,因为她cousin的一个朋友打疫苗以后那方面不行了。福奇说没有任何证据表明疫苗会影响fertility。这个只是个例。
我更相信那些因为不愿意打疫苗被迫离职的医生和护士。 况且新闻里那些乱七八遭众口一词没打疫苗病死的故事你就相信了 ?那是你亲眼见到的吗, 有没有打个电话问问
难道是ADE了?
huaren上就有n多打了之後月經不准的。
這個胡說八道的老頭死後去的地方一定比地獄糟一萬倍。
你这不是冷漠 是恶毒吧
逻辑上不是这样的。
护士医生说的和这些人说的都是data points
无非是不同的人给不同的说法的weight 不一样。
有人认为只能听医生说的。 网上说的都是谣言。
有的人认为医生不一定能在病人目前说真话,因为要承受法律责任,比如医院开除了很多有不同观点的医生和护士。 在到处pc的情况下,也许只有匿名的网上言论稍微可信。
你看阴谋论跟pc是相生相克的,如果没有pc,阴谋论也没有市场。 阴谋阴谋,没有阳光得地方才会有阴谋。
所以现在各个平台大肆屏蔽删帖,其实是更加助长了阴谋论。
这些能够证明,疫苗到底打死了多少人! 还有,记住,这些只是其中的一小部分,而且,是不到一年的时间。
这些说为了保护自己孩子而打疫苗,然后谴责没有打疫苗的人,自己看看吧,下面有人告诉你,想用疫苗防止传染就是一个笑话的!还有,谁是超级感染者,英文圈早就有结论,自己找
可是这个楼里,只有包括你在内的疫苗吹人士,表现出了对真实数据的无知,不屑,束手无策,甚至恶毒。
福奇这个老不死的成天在电视上推销疫苗,卖弄他的科学理论!我看youtube的留言都是骂他的,都在问福奇这个老畜生什么时候进监狱!同意监狱是不够的!
身体健康还选择不打疫苗的人,然后去霸占icu的位置就不恶毒吗?
反疫苗斗士的特点是,你跟他说新冠死人,他说:不就才百分之一百分之二么?有什么了不起?
但一提疫苗,立刻不提统计了,而是拿出脸书微博上未经证实的个例吓唬人。
更有严重的到了阴谋论那种程度的,说什么现在数据都是假的,疫苗死的都算成了新冠死的。总之就是全世界科学家医生联合起来算计他们。
LOL 你说的这些恰恰是当下疫苗吹的行为模式
说到breakthrough就说疫苗防重症,说到打疫苗后病亡就说疫苗不是长生不老药
说到官方数据就说人英国卫生局在造谣,要么就两眼一抹黑认为人家的数据是这么这么misleadingly算出来的,完全不看真实报告。
然后一群疫苗吹脑残跟着点赞,几个更无良知的跟着诅咒。
继续自嗨吧
刚看到这个帖子一惊,以后会给6个月大婴儿打?看来疫情是不每个人都打上不会停了
https://m.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2728368
希望他们言出必行,别去医院占地方,现在普通急症病人icu都没得用了
中藥備清肺排毒湯,武漢用的那個,不是藥丸。南京疫情確診包括重症幾百人全部康復出院,都是靠的中醫。
西藥備伊維菌素(人用)。 要問怎麼搞到,網上一搜到處都是。
我就想问你打了疫苗没有。我想你肯定打了疫苗。你这种人也是社会的败类。
药厂肯定什么人群都会试验,家长们可自行斟酌要不要给自己孩子打。批准归批准,强制归强制。只要不强制,我觉得没问题。
你这个说法就很不合理啊。照你的说法来推论一下:吸烟会得肺癌,那吸烟得肺癌的人就是自找的了,那就要自生自灭,别浪费医疗资源;你好吃,吃得过胖,导致高血压冠心病,心脏病突发要死了,那是你自己的问题,谁叫你吃那么多,那也自生自灭好了,别去浪费医疗资源。(而且心血管疾病死亡人数可是很多的,比新冠还多)。 而且如果别人买了医疗保险,为什么不能去?假设这么一种情况,突然有一天你觉得胃疼,你去医院,一问没打疫苗,医院说你去死吧,我不收。
我揭示疫苗本质的时候你还不知在哪玩泥巴呢
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2700818
以前都觉得不会强制大人,现在呢 谁知道以后会不会强制小孩
看这媒体铺天盖地报道都是不打疫苗得新冠死了的 还怪不打疫苗的 之前是大人然后是孩子 这么发展 真是有点怕啊
恶毒的人总是诅咒别人赶快死
是挺可怕的 福奇和白等都玩命的推
只想说这个妈妈真是作死。 想知道这些反疫苗的人后来都怎样了。是不是悔不当初呢。这下该变成积极分子,动员其他反疫苗成员了吧。
哪个城市?