什么时候说无症状者不会传染人了? CDC的规定: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) 有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从?
什么时候说无症状者不会传染人了? CDC的规定: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) 有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从? veinard 发表于 2021-09-01 10:24
刚查了CDC要求: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days after their last exposure to that person. However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fif-you-are-sick%2Fquarantine.html 所以我学校是遵从CDC的。为什么CDC这样啊为什么?有证据说打了疫苗的阳性不会传染给别人么?还要继续祸国殃民到啥时候?
刚查了CDC要求: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days after their last exposure to that person. However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fif-you-are-sick%2Fquarantine.html 所以我学校是遵从CDC的。为什么CDC这样啊为什么?有证据说打了疫苗的阳性不会传染给别人么?还要继续祸国殃民到啥时候?
刚查了CDC要求: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days after their last exposure to that person. However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fif-you-are-sick%2Fquarantine.html 所以我学校是遵从CDC的。为什么CDC这样啊为什么?有证据说打了疫苗的阳性不会传染给别人么?还要继续祸国殃民到啥时候?
确诊的是 You can be around others after: 10 days since symptoms first appeared and 24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*
anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. 如果不是已经确诊postiive, 为什么有最后这句“until their test result is negative”?
Guidance for Asymptomatic HCP Who Were Exposed to Individuals with Confirmed SARS-CoV-2 Infection Higher-risk exposures generally involve exposure of HCP’s eyes, nose, or mouth to material potentially containing SARS-CoV-2, particularly if these HCP were present in the room for an aerosol-generating procedure (See row 1 of the table). Following a higher-risk exposure, work restriction of asymptomatic HCP who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection in the prior 3 months and asymptomatic HCP who are fully vaccinated is not necessary. Additional information about these scenarios, including possible exceptions, is available here and here. 医院可能担心没人上班。
Guidance for Asymptomatic HCP Who Were Exposed to Individuals with Confirmed SARS-CoV-2 Infection Higher-risk exposures generally involve exposure of HCP’s eyes, nose, or mouth to material potentially containing SARS-CoV-2, particularly if these HCP were present in the room for an aerosol-generating procedure (See row 1 of the table). Following a higher-risk exposure, work restriction of asymptomatic HCP who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection in the prior 3 months and asymptomatic HCP who are fully vaccinated is not necessary. Additional information about these scenarios, including possible exceptions, is available here and here. 医院可能担心没人上班。 Gandalf229 发表于 2021-09-01 11:44
2. If HCP within 3 months of their initial infection develop symptoms consistent with COVID-19, should they be excluded from work and retested? HCP within 3 months of a confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection who develop symptoms consistent with COVID-19 should be evaluated to identify potential alternative etiologies for their symptoms. If an alternate etiology for the symptoms cannot be identified, they may need to be retested for SARS-CoV-2 infection with the understanding that a positive viral test could represent residual viral particles from the previous infection, rather than new infection. Decisions about the need for and duration of work exclusion should be based upon their suspected diagnosis (e.g., influenza, SARS-CoV-2 infection).
刚查了CDC要求: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days after their last exposure to that person. However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fif-you-are-sick%2Fquarantine.html 所以我学校是遵从CDC的。为什么CDC这样啊为什么?有证据说打了疫苗的阳性不会传染给别人么?还要继续祸国殃民到啥时候?
veinard 发表于 2021-09-01 10:53
现在学校的规定就是看打了疫苗没有,我知道有这样的规定: 密接: 没打疫苗的学生隔离宿舍呆着,过五天测试,阴性的话第八天回来上课 打了疫苗没任何措施,可能就测试一下 pool testing positive 没打疫苗的学生宿舍呆着,个人测试阴性回来上课 打了疫苗继续课堂上课,直到测试阳性,不知道要不要隔离
深蓝州的大学 什么时候说无症状者不会传染人了? 即将面临去上课班上有大量positive但是无症状的学生的恐怖情况 positive当没事 只要无症状就当negative 什么鬼?什么事儿这都是? 听天由命 自求多福 活一天算一天 成为座右铭 真tm悲哀! 查了 学校是按照CDC的规定的: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) 有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从? veinard 发表于 2021-09-01 10:24
深蓝州的大学 什么时候说无症状者不会传染人了? 即将面临去上课班上有大量positive但是无症状的学生的恐怖情况 positive当没事 只要无症状就当negative 什么鬼?什么事儿这都是? 听天由命 自求多福 活一天算一天 成为座右铭 真tm悲哀! 查了 学校是按照CDC的规定的: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) 有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从? veinard 发表于 2021-09-01 10:24
Red State. Only 20% students wear facemasks. Faculty cannot ask them to wear facemasks, not even in faculty offices.
什么时候说无症状者不会传染人了? CDC的规定: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath) 有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从? veinard 发表于 2021-09-01 10:24
CDC的规定: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home: Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath)
有这样的CDC 美国疫情何去何从?
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我们需要一周去一两次office的,公司要求每周都测
Oakland 联合学区至少12个学生和老师拿到false positive 结果,被要求了隔离,有人看到送回来的报告起疑,又给他们做了pcr确认阴性,解除隔离的。就是大概一周前的报导。给出错误报告的公司好像还没给解释。
现在还会有人把cdc说了什么当回事吗
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我们学校已经不再做contact tracing,全面检测也取消了,所以没症状也很难知道确诊,全指望疫苗和口罩了。
太糟糕了,那是违反CDC要求的,CDC好像是要求有positive 的人隔离14天再检测如果是negative才能跟别人接触。学校领导肯定没用遵守CDC的指导
只有假阴性,没有假阳性。测出来阳性是肯定已经有的,阴性有的需要多次测才能测准
真的没办法。。。如果POSITIVE都不让上的话,这课就只能网上开了,学校很多收入又没了,学校不干啊
我们这的小学只要家里有人测出来是阳性都让孩子回家呆10天,再测如果是阴性才能回去上课
CDC要求是10天。。而且不要negative。。 学校不敢不遵守cdc的
家里有老人小孩的会比较担心被传染上带给家人,毕竟老人属于高危人群,小孩又没疫苗保护
伪你个头。 无症状感染者=检测阳性,自感没有发病症状。 很多无症状会逐步发病,时间问题。 传染性最强的一类人
反正大部分学生都不在乎,各种聚会一点不耽误。
教授担心,又能怎样?已经看到好几个老教授辞职的新闻了。估计学校乐不得呢。正好腾出位置招年轻能干的,年轻教授工资还低。
刚查了CDC要求: Anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days after their last exposure to that person. However, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative. Or Someone who has COVID-19 illness within the previous 3 months and Has recovered and Remains without COVID-19 symptoms (for example, cough, shortness of breath)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/quarantine-isolation.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fif-you-are-sick%2Fquarantine.html
所以我学校是遵从CDC的。为什么CDC这样啊为什么?有证据说打了疫苗的阳性不会传染给别人么?还要继续祸国殃民到啥时候?
现在除了我老婆在家上班,我小孩和我都回学校了,小孩在学校的风险更大,但也没办法。我讲课,我觉得还好,躺平吧,既来之则安之,大环境如此,担心也没用。
下课会有学生来和你握手吗?
如果不是非上不可,现在就是冒着生命健康危险在上。 不觉得可悲吗。
CDC真是头猪🐷,这次美国病毒肆虐跟这头猪的瞎指导有很大关系
为什么要握手?这个cdc都让避免啊。有学生这样直接说就好了
目前好象还没遇到过~
整个大环境都是如此,我也能理解了。比如一个州,如果其他公校都复课了,独独你一个学校不复课,学校领导层很难交代的。我觉得我们学校已经做了它capacity之内能做的了,现在不能要求学生去测试Covid, 所以无症状来不来上课是伪命题。因为绝大多数无症状根本都不会去测试。
无症状感染者就是测了才算的,不测的就是未知,而不是无症状感染者。 国内这种情形的,从检测站测阳性那一刻起,就开始踪该人所有密接者,然后统一留观隔离了。 我舅家旁边有个饺子馆,一个无症状转乘的时候,逗留过2小时,附近人员都被检测隔离了。确认安全后,才解除隔离。 楼主的意思是,如果学校有人测阳性,也自知阳性,依然到处乱晃。并且它周围的人不知情。
现在的学校,去年做的挺好的,定期全面筛查,大课上网课,小课保持距离戴口罩,密接全部隔离。今年几百人的大课教室全坐满,人挤人,打过疫苗的不再检测。开学才两次课,一门大课接近5%的学生发邮件说确诊了要请假,估计都是有症状的,不然不会去测,连TA也确诊了。我感觉感染是早晚的,当流感听天由命吧。
这明明说的是close contact, 不是已经确诊positive的。
其实美国不可能做到国内那样,就像国内也不像美国,可以有传染病的时候,把自己的公民全部接走。
所以到一个地方,只能适应当地的环境来生活。
我也不知道他们咋想的,但真的不好意思说什么。第一次课总有学生会来介绍下自己,谈谈感想什么的。还有的学生是退伍军人,真的是不怒自威。
因为学校今年秋季没有政府拨款的网课经费好像。但确诊只能zoom三天太奇葩了,你们学校的领导太葛朗台了
老师确诊只让转zoom三天?一个班5% 确诊!这么夸张居然还没上新闻啊。
确诊的是 You can be around others after: 10 days since symptoms first appeared and 24 hours with no fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and Other symptoms of COVID-19 are improving*
是啊,加州那个小学老师,听起来症状也不严重,就像普通过敏。结果传了一堆人
你说话负责吗。 医护是天天测的,感染了就会隔离的。谁告诉你无症状感染的医护还继续上班的
这很简单啊,他们要和你握手,你就伸出碰手臂的姿势,对方也会理解的,也会立即变成和你碰手臂。
anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria does NOT need to stay home. Someone who has been fully vaccinated and shows no symptoms of COVID-19. However, fully vaccinated people should get tested 3-5 days after their exposure, even they don’t have symptoms and wear a mask indoors in public for 14 days following exposure or until their test result is negative.
如果不是已经确诊postiive, 为什么有最后这句“until their test result is negative”?
这会儿还故意和人握手贴面拥抱的,不是故意的,就是少根筋的。
我同事一家前几周都阳性了,都是轻症或无症状,同事老婆和一个娃是无症状,现在都转阴了也没发病。他家会去测,是一个娃在外面传染的,轻症有症状,所以全家去测了,我同事后来也有症状了(发烧➕咳嗽),现在也好了。
我昨天碰到一个好久不见的老教授,我准备和他碰碰拳头的,他伸出碰手臂的姿势,我也立即配合了。我觉得99.5%的人都可以理解的。
上大学,下课师生握手是个什么鬼?疫情前没事也不这么干吧,又不是答辩或毕业典礼。
无症状的人是自己并没留意身体状况,知道一人也说自己无症状感染,但他身边的人说其实在测前几天他就已经经常打喷嚏,还时不时的咳嗽几声,但他认为是过敏没当回事
或者,你在课开始的时候,先故意找一个学生,问两句,然后主动和他碰碰手臂。这样,既拉近和学生的距离,也间接告诉学生听,碰手臂是你打招呼的方式。接下来,学生都会做的啦。
就是处于潜伏期,测是阳性,发病需要时间
测了阳性后也是打喷嚏,有点咳嗽,但他还是认为自己是无症状阳性,丝毫不当回事
适应吧,如果哪天你进了pit, 你还这么说算你不虚伪,当河山硕也不能山寨
这是俩不同学校。
目前一共上了两次课,才三天。一大半是第一次上课前就请假了,应该还不是上课传上的。当然我也没有要他们提供证明,全校的数据是一天确诊150+,去年开学高峰期是90,后面就是零星几个。但我觉得这波传染性比去年厉害,今年学生都打过疫苗了。
这不是给自己挖坑吗?既然无症状就没事,干嘛要通知他们去测in the first place?
他自己是无症状,传给周围的,被传的体质不抗这种毒也许就死翘翘了。 打一个喷嚏,得多少毒。 意思就是别人被他传了死了,他丝毫不当回事。
就是加快传播速度,让人人都感染
我给他们作个揖好了。。。其实就是前一两次课,后面应该不会有了。
是没有办法,也就那样了。 如果有办法,早上了。
听他身边的人说那个人确诊后倒是自我隔离了,但他所说的无症状其实是有症状的,所以很多人所说的无症状并不是完全没有
Guidance for Asymptomatic HCP Who Were Exposed to Individuals with Confirmed SARS-CoV-2 Infection Higher-risk exposures generally involve exposure of HCP’s eyes, nose, or mouth to material potentially containing SARS-CoV-2, particularly if these HCP were present in the room for an aerosol-generating procedure (See row 1 of the table). Following a higher-risk exposure, work restriction of asymptomatic HCP who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection in the prior 3 months and asymptomatic HCP who are fully vaccinated is not necessary. Additional information about these scenarios, including possible exceptions, is available here and here.
医院可能担心没人上班。
2. If HCP within 3 months of their initial infection develop symptoms consistent with COVID-19, should they be excluded from work and retested? HCP within 3 months of a confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection who develop symptoms consistent with COVID-19 should be evaluated to identify potential alternative etiologies for their symptoms. If an alternate etiology for the symptoms cannot be identified, they may need to be retested for SARS-CoV-2 infection with the understanding that a positive viral test could represent residual viral particles from the previous infection, rather than new infection. Decisions about the need for and duration of work exclusion should be based upon their suspected diagnosis (e.g., influenza, SARS-CoV-2 infection).
你仔细想想,几个大学允许开窗?你不知道safety code吗?
现在学校的规定就是看打了疫苗没有,我知道有这样的规定:
密接: 没打疫苗的学生隔离宿舍呆着,过五天测试,阴性的话第八天回来上课 打了疫苗没任何措施,可能就测试一下
pool testing positive 没打疫苗的学生宿舍呆着,个人测试阴性回来上课 打了疫苗继续课堂上课,直到测试阳性,不知道要不要隔离
这个好,然后告诉他们,亚洲case少,就是因为大家都是这样打招呼的,当个笑话说,既间接表明态度,也活跃课堂气氛
医护戴的可是N95口罩,医院里的保护是最强的
没错,我们这进医院门口都要在你额头扫一下有没有发烧
可惜有人要进icu,会是你吗?
孩子的学校就是这样处理的。如果打了疫苗,测出是Positive,也不需要隔离,不管有无症状,可以照常上课。但是如果没有打疫苗,那就随时做好隔离准备。有症状了要隔离,出门旅行回来了要隔离,有close contact了也要隔离(虽然有症状并且positve的同学可以照常上学)。 另外,没打疫苗的家长不允许参加任何学校组织的活动,包括孩子的音乐演出和运动比赛。
用脑子想想,这到底是在贴心保护没打疫苗的学生,还是明晃晃的歧视没打疫苗的人群?
我们从来没有这个方面要求,大学一直都开窗,有点好奇, 啥saftey reason?
怕人跳啊,faculty办公室没问题,教室dorm不行。不过我们有hepa系统得。 k12也一般不让开得,是从active shooter得角度考虑。 唉这么一说,这都啥事。
楼主自己没打疫苗吗?打了还怕啥?家有12岁以下娃吗?没事儿,娃只要不是胖子,都是无症或者轻症。
Red State. Only 20% students wear facemasks. Faculty cannot ask them to wear facemasks, not even in faculty offices.
打了疫苗就不得了?我今天就一个同事疫苗打了又阳性了的。
得了也没事儿,可以防住院啊。住院了也没事儿,还可以防重症。
佩服你的乐观 我的目标是不得 因为得了 谁也说不准会发生什么 即使打了疫苗 何况家里还有没打疫苗的小娃
太可怕了 我们好歹还强制口罩
我们现在进医院就门口问几句发烧没?接触过covid病人没?已经不再量体温了
重症也没事,可以防死亡!死了也没事,可以防鞭尸!
是不是死了也没事,还可以再投胎?
美国武汉撤侨和日本轮船撤侨的时候有病的都不带走,在当地治疗
现在还会有人把cdc说了什么当回事吗
Oakland 联合学区至少12个学生和老师拿到false positive 结果,被要求了隔离,有人看到送回来的报告起疑,又给他们做了pcr确认阴性,解除隔离的。就是大概一周前的报导。给出错误报告的公司好像还没给解释。