疫苗主要是没有用， hi! I am traveling on Wednesday to my friends wedding In PA for like 5 days. I got the Moderna vaccine back around March/April (that's when both of my shots were, I've been fully vaccinated since May). I didnt go on the coronavirus subreddit for a while because I'm like "Im fully vaccinated, dont need to go on it anymore!", I randomly went on the subreddit one day, and I've been back on it ever since (usually go in the daily discussion thread). I've been reading about the breakthrough cases with Delta and it's making me a little nervous than I was about a month or so ago. Especially since I am in Florida where cases or more or less on the rise. I know the vaccines arent 100% effective, but It just makes me very nervous to be going on a plane knowing that the Delta Variant is spreading. Luckily if I were to get it, my mom and everyone around me is vaccinated, so that helps. But, I watched a Tik Tok Video of someone saying that they caught a covid breakthrough case, and I keep reading stuff on Reddit about covid breakthrough cases, and my mom is watching like CNN and well it's CNN. Should I honestly be that concerned about becoming a breakthrough case?
媒体不报道， reddit上有不少， 都是夫妻得。。 疫苗基本没有用。。 I've seen a lot of people say how it's unlikely to be a breakthrough case. My wife and I weren't worried much as we'd both been fully vaccinated (Pfizer) since May. So we happily went of a trip to Vegas last weekend, following all mask protocols in airports, etc. Upon coming back home we both tested positive and are symptomatic. Maybe we're just that unlucky. Maybe symptoms would be worse if we were not vaccinated. I assure you it hasn't been fun. Five days of feeling like I've been hit by a truck so far. Wife and son's symptoms are less mild though. Yay for that. It's just really annoying how unlikely everyone says breakthrough cases are. In our small sample size, they're obviously not that unlikely.
如果你打了疫苗还吓得要死戴口罩， 真心没有必要打。 I got a Covid breakthrough case and I am fully vaccinated with Pfizer. It’s been 5 days and I’m still laying in bed, fatigued, lightheaded & haven’t gotten my full smell/taste back yet 😓 & because Im not hospitalized, my symptoms are considered “mild”. Please be safe!!!
疫苗主要是没有用， hi! I am traveling on Wednesday to my friends wedding In PA for like 5 days. I got the Moderna vaccine back around March/April (that's when both of my shots were, I've been fully vaccinated since May). I didnt go on the coronavirus subreddit for a while because I'm like "Im fully vaccinated, dont need to go on it anymore!", I randomly went on the subreddit one day, and I've been back on it ever since (usually go in the daily discussion thread). I've been reading about the breakthrough cases with Delta and it's making me a little nervous than I was about a month or so ago. Especially since I am in Florida where cases or more or less on the rise. I know the vaccines arent 100% effective, but It just makes me very nervous to be going on a plane knowing that the Delta Variant is spreading. Luckily if I were to get it, my mom and everyone around me is vaccinated, so that helps. But, I watched a Tik Tok Video of someone saying that they caught a covid breakthrough case, and I keep reading stuff on Reddit about covid breakthrough cases, and my mom is watching like CNN and well it's CNN. Should I honestly be that concerned about becoming a breakthrough case? hualihu 发表于 2021-08-22 23:04
还有这一个： level 1 Emergency-Swimming-6 · 18d I have a breakthrough infection as well. I’m on day 8 and still feel like crap. It’s mostly been like a bad sinus infection with a cough. I was at work with a bunch of unvaccinated people. My bf has it and is unvaccinated and is far worse off. I am definitely glad I got the vaccine but it does seem like breakthrough infections are not as rare as they say.
媒体不报道， reddit上有不少， 都是夫妻得。。 疫苗基本没有用。。 I've seen a lot of people say how it's unlikely to be a breakthrough case. My wife and I weren't worried much as we'd both been fully vaccinated (Pfizer) since May. So we happily went of a trip to Vegas last weekend, following all mask protocols in airports, etc. Upon coming back home we both tested positive and are symptomatic. Maybe we're just that unlucky. Maybe symptoms would be worse if we were not vaccinated. I assure you it hasn't been fun. Five days of feeling like I've been hit by a truck so far. Wife and son's symptoms are less mild though. Yay for that. It's just really annoying how unlikely everyone says breakthrough cases are. In our small sample size, they're obviously not that unlikely. hualihu 发表于 2021-08-22 23:06
如果你打了疫苗还吓得要死戴口罩， 真心没有必要打。 I got a Covid breakthrough case and I am fully vaccinated with Pfizer. It’s been 5 days and I’m still laying in bed, fatigued, lightheaded & haven’t gotten my full smell/taste back yet 😓 & because Im not hospitalized, my symptoms are considered “mild”. Please be safe!!!
嗯
开始BLAME不听你们忽悠的反抗者了？
要实现疫苗群免，开始说50%打疫苗就可实现群体免疫， 后来变成60%，后来变成70%，现在说，要达到85%打了疫苗才能群体免疫。就是一个永远没有现在实现的数字呗，即使真的达到了90%，科学家将来马上要出来说95%才能实现，永远有办法转进
我要告诉你的是，就是全世界100%打了疫苗，仍然无法群体免疫，因为疫苗不防感染，不防传染别人这两条就决定了疫苗自己是永远无法群免的。至于是不是真的防重症防死亡，以后再看吧，我感觉现在公布的99%数字就是个JOKE。
这话说的，没人逼谁去打疫苗，但总可以选择跟谁一起玩吧？
不会， 除非对方非要推销自己的观点
没问题，你就是因为人家头发少不来来往也可以啊。但现在你们在论坛上发帖子，想要在社会上形成岐视链，我当然要求你们放过人家。
无论是因为疫苗对变异病毒失效，还是大瘟疫病毒量太大超出疫苗能力，这些都是做疫苗的人应该想到和设计应对的，没做到不就是失败？用户只要结果，现在的结果和事实就是，靠疫苗阻断流行失败了，那为什么要第3第4针在失败的路上继续走下去？而应该mandate口罩才是阻断流行的有效办法
这个观点有意思了，疫苗防护不是百分百应该是人人皆知吧，即便打过疫苗的相信疫苗防重症降低死亡率，也不代表我们就想被传染去遭这一通罪吧。
不打疫苗感染的人以为就是自己的cost自己扛吗?错了，这些人还散播了external cost. 既想社交，还不想打疫苗，还不让人说，真是不是蠢就是坏！
这怎么叫歧视链？明明是保护链。有免疫的自觉回避没有免疫力的，为了他们的健康，有利无害，好吧。绝对不会因为头发少不来往，又不会传染。
没人对你喜欢跟谁玩感兴趣，为什么整天在这找存在感？真是用心良苦了。
https://www.educationviews.org/stanford-study-quietly-published-at-nih-gov-proves-face-masks-are-absolutely-worthless-against-covid/
目前的情况看，疫苗到底是保护免疫系统还是破坏免疫系统都难说。
原来该打疫苗是人人皆知，还是常识。
美国至少一半都不同意你啊！
能在哺乳动物之间传播，所以消灭不了，所以说那些疫苗卫士，他们得到的信息都不正常人少一半，他们怎么做正确的判断？
打了疫苗的，怕跟不打疫苗的在一起。
能问一下自己吗？是怕被没打的传染了？ 你不是打了疫苗吗？
打的是个寂寞
额…请看清楚我没有说过人人都知道应该打疫苗，是说打了疫苗也有概率被感染。要人人都能有打疫苗的觉悟真是高兴都来不及呢。
言简意赅。我也不费这时间了。
什么叫打了个寂寞？打疫苗了也不是百分百防感染，这句话很难理解吗？打了也怕被传染有什么不对吗？
按你這說法，乾脆將防疫措施全部撤除了，也別戴什麼口罩，更不要搞隔離，該死多少是多少，反正消滅不了病毒，美國再死100萬也不打緊
群體免疫從一開始就是70%的基本門檻，不知道你是哪裡聽來的50%？？ 如果是50%，前兩個月拜登和各州催什麼抽獎？
病毒進化的路線就是不停在免疫力低下的人身上變種。按你說的反正消滅不了，你戴什麼口罩，直接裸奔不好嗎？
按你這說法，世上只有包治百病的靈丹妙藥才能出廠了。做疫苗的必須全知全能，這活適合輪子做。
全家打m？ 这是瞎编的吧？小孩子只能打p。
因为你们进了ICU要占别人的床位！
占了你的床位了？床位都是打疫苗的专用的？这样也行啊，呵呵
什么乱七八糟放不放过的，爱打不打关我们什么事，只是打疫苗的为了双方安全，也有拒绝和不打疫苗的社交的权利吧，你管得着吗？
你们有权拒绝和不打疫苗社交的权利，是你自己个人行为。但别忘了这是社交媒体，不是你家，别人也有权表达不喜欢你这种言论的权利。
华人这水平真是越来越。。。
我记得你好像有只猫。你养宠物也是增大了感染概率。因为哺乳动物可以传播新冠，而且很难做到完全隔离。你洗手戴口罩打疫苗，你家猫能做全套吗？
按照你的逻辑，医院也应该拒收有宠物的病人。别一天到晚把别人当假想敌。矛头请对准无能腐败的政府。
这个帖子真精分，一大堆不打疫苗的回帖说打疫苗的才是多危险多白痴，还有就是我们不打疫苗的从来不出去浪，然后主题是控诉为什么你们不肯和我们玩 🤣
想多了，我觉得正常人还是大多数人，不会说以打不打疫苗作为社交的标准。有的人既使打了疫苗也不会变得更高尚，更会让人喜欢。
这理解能力😂
讲真的，就你们这样的人，现实生活中大多数人避之唯恐不及，别自作多情别人想跟你们交往了。你们几个抱团取暖吧。
贡献个前段时间看到的新加坡的数据。 哦 对了 这两天自媒体高呼，你看新加坡第一个完全打了疫苗，也中了covid然后去世了呢。然后看内容，去世的老人家90岁了，还有肾病。 嗯
你这种理解能力的人，本来就没人想交往，就别让疫苗背锅了吧😆
不管打不打疫苗都不一起吃饭，打了疫苗的也能互相传染
你还在做梦呢。怪不得啥都感觉不到。
我认得的老美感染的不少，样本大于10，都是在家休息了一周就恢复了。没有胖子，没有基础病。
不阻断感染传播的疫苗难道不是助长更强悍的变异病毒。
就是这么说
个人自由应该以不影响伤害他们为前提，不打疫苗感染几率大，对其他人来说就是病源，凭什么要求打了疫苗的放过你们这些自私的人？你家院子是不是就可以搞得臭气熏天不顾邻居的感受？
开车强制要求系安全带，其实大家都知道，安全带既不能防止车祸发生，也不能保证车祸后人一定能活......但是依然支持强制安全带
怕传染给孩子们 怕他们得了重症影响医疗资源 很多真正需要帮助的人因此不能得到及时的治疗救助 it’s a collective response 不是自由不自由的问题
當然好，贊成，但選擇不打疫苗的中招了就自己在家呆著吧，別去搶床位了
hi! I am traveling on Wednesday to my friends wedding In PA for like 5 days. I got the Moderna vaccine back around March/April (that's when both of my shots were, I've been fully vaccinated since May). I didnt go on the coronavirus subreddit for a while because I'm like "Im fully vaccinated, dont need to go on it anymore!", I randomly went on the subreddit one day, and I've been back on it ever since (usually go in the daily discussion thread). I've been reading about the breakthrough cases with Delta and it's making me a little nervous than I was about a month or so ago. Especially since I am in Florida where cases or more or less on the rise. I know the vaccines arent 100% effective, but It just makes me very nervous to be going on a plane knowing that the Delta Variant is spreading. Luckily if I were to get it, my mom and everyone around me is vaccinated, so that helps. But, I watched a Tik Tok Video of someone saying that they caught a covid breakthrough case, and I keep reading stuff on Reddit about covid breakthrough cases, and my mom is watching like CNN and well it's CNN. Should I honestly be that concerned about becoming a breakthrough case?
疫苗基本没有用。。
I've seen a lot of people say how it's unlikely to be a breakthrough case. My wife and I weren't worried much as we'd both been fully vaccinated (Pfizer) since May. So we happily went of a trip to Vegas last weekend, following all mask protocols in airports, etc. Upon coming back home we both tested positive and are symptomatic. Maybe we're just that unlucky. Maybe symptoms would be worse if we were not vaccinated. I assure you it hasn't been fun. Five days of feeling like I've been hit by a truck so far. Wife and son's symptoms are less mild though. Yay for that. It's just really annoying how unlikely everyone says breakthrough cases are. In our small sample size, they're obviously not that unlikely.
I got a Covid breakthrough case and I am fully vaccinated with Pfizer. It’s been 5 days and I’m still laying in bed, fatigued, lightheaded & haven’t gotten my full smell/taste back yet 😓 & because Im not hospitalized, my symptoms are considered “mild”. Please be safe!!!
有用没用问题都不大，要是生理盐水，打了就打了，关键是有害
还有这一个：
Concerned about the breakthrough Covid cases : COVID19_support (reddit.com)
最后一句非常有说服力！
你就是社交媒体上看一些个体例子用来证明疫苗没有也真是智商捉急
智商感人。 现在都是大数据。 这人是活在原始社会，还在用手指数一二三，看几个case做决定。
疫苗和口罩又不冲突。多一层保护不好？
你的见识：疫苗是包治百病？ 我多啰嗦一句：病毒在变异，现在的疫苗防重症。 btw：你家的仙丹多存点，其他的药都扔了最好。要是一个病，还要各种药，这些药都是废物。多吃你家轮子仙丹。包灵。
太可笑了，现在CDC早就说了打了疫苗完全不防止传播，你自己也一样传染给你小孩
你知道ADE吧，疫苗会使变异快
我不理解的一点是 不打疫苗以前是觉得自己WFH 加上孩子网课 戴好口罩 减少社交 自己小心很安全的度过了一年半 但是现在孩子开学了 不到12岁打不了疫苗 如何还有安全感呢 就怕孩子上学把病毒带回来啊 这可如何是好？不打疫苗太没安全感了
这肯定不对 很多我知道不打疫苗的 都是因为自己身体有问题 权衡利弊暂时不打 但是都对不强制口罩感到气愤 都好好的戴口罩 少出门呢
所以就不跟他们叫这个劲了。
不至于吧
没办法
我们也是 必须口罩
比喻恰当啊
同感
关了一年半了，再关下去，精神会出问题了。
啊!
太让人郁闷了
祈祷成功
对的
你也说得太简单的。现在情况就是约一起玩的时候就主动说都打疫苗了才去的。
Zan,强制口罩比疫苗更重要‼️
我一般微信聊天主动告对方，虽然只是聊天也基本见不到面的那种
赞👍
可以不打。 但是就不要和不接受不打疫苗的人聚会接触之类的。自觉点儿。要点脸。 打疫苗的人并不是为了能够和不打疫苗的人接触。不是说打了防重症的疫苗，没打疫苗就可以肆无忌惮接触，没谁愿意感染，哪怕是轻症，轻症也是折磨人的。
你的疫苗白打了吗？？一点保护都没有？
你能给我解释一下，戴着口罩是怎么聚餐的？直接说不要聚餐不就完了
是啊 天天在家带娃多开心啊。大人和小孩天天家里蹲，花费也减少了，省了好多钱。别去上学了，也不用工作了。自给自足吧
很难想象这样反疫苗的这么多人点赞 你们看看这些饭疫苗的ID是不是在到处提土工各种辩护， 华人上面为啥这么多反疫苗的和替土工辩护的重叠账号呢
这里一堆造谣的 哪里说对lamda 无用了？ 对delta 辉瑞是六个月左右只有四成阻断效果 防重病还在80%以上 moderna 有70% 效果 阻断 防重病 90% 结果这个ID就在这里公然造谣， 我觉得可以考虑想FBI检举这些反疫苗替土工辩护的ID 如果里面有土工的资金提供 估计FBI会有兴趣查的
你们不愿打疫苗的放过打疫苗的人行吗？ 不愿打疫苗是你们的自由，不和你们接触是我们的自由 既然你们坚信疫苗无用，打了不如不打，不防感染不防重症，还导致打了疫苗的人变成行走的传播源，养蛊的两脚兽，你们不是应该避疫苗者之不及，巴不得打疫苗的人不和你们接触吗？人家这样做都是为了保护你们啊！
有保护，但降低几率不行吗？