看看英国的数据吧，转自Zerohedge.com的评论区留言 86.19% of “cases” are in the Vaccinated?Where's the eff'en “95% efficacy”?/////August 6, 2021 - Public Health England - Technical Briefing 20The Delta Variant in Those Over Age 50 ~20,000,000 people in the UK over age of 50 ~80% of the that population is vaccinated ~16,000,000 vaccinated and 4,000,000 unvaccinated Cases: 21,472 in the “vaccinated” = .13% case rate in the vaccinated population 3,440 in the “unvaccinated” = .089% in the unvaccinated 0.041% higher case rate in the vaccinated 86.19% of all "cases" are vaccinated Emergency Care that required an overnight stay (ONS): 1,131 in the “fully vaccinated” = .007% ONS rate in the vaccinated population 670 in the “unvaccinated” = .017% in the unvaccinated 0.01% higher overnight hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated 63% of all ONS hospitalizations are "vaccinated" Deaths 389 in the “fully vaccinated” = .002% death rate in the vaccinated population 205 in the “unvaccinated” = .005% in the unvaccinated 0.003% higher death rate for the unvaccinated65.49% of all deaths occurred in the "vaccinated"! Hear that "in the news"?A total of 20,000,000 people, 80% are vaccinated leaving 4,000,000 unvaccinated and your TOTAL death count is 594 people? Seriously, how many of that number would have died from old age or bad can of beans? The majority of Covid deaths in the UK occurred in those over 75 years old!C'mon man, these vaccines, the whole "Pandemic" BS is A JOKE!
看看英国的数据吧，转自Zerohedge.com的评论区留言 86.19% of “cases” are in the Vaccinated?Where's the eff'en “95% efficacy”?/////August 6, 2021 - Public Health England - Technical Briefing 20The Delta Variant in Those Over Age 50 ~20,000,000 people in the UK over age of 50 ~80% of the that population is vaccinated ~16,000,000 vaccinated and 4,000,000 unvaccinated Cases: 21,472 in the “vaccinated” = .13% case rate in the vaccinated population 3,440 in the “unvaccinated” = .089% in the unvaccinated 0.041% higher case rate in the vaccinated 86.19% of all "cases" are vaccinated Emergency Care that required an overnight stay (ONS): 1,131 in the “fully vaccinated” = .007% ONS rate in the vaccinated population 670 in the “unvaccinated” = .017% in the unvaccinated 0.01% higher overnight hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated 63% of all ONS hospitalizations are "vaccinated" Deaths 389 in the “fully vaccinated” = .002% death rate in the vaccinated population 205 in the “unvaccinated” = .005% in the unvaccinated 0.003% higher death rate for the unvaccinated65.49% of all deaths occurred in the "vaccinated"! Hear that "in the news"?A total of 20,000,000 people, 80% are vaccinated leaving 4,000,000 unvaccinated and your TOTAL death count is 594 people? Seriously, how many of that number would have died from old age or bad can of beans? The majority of Covid deaths in the UK occurred in those over 75 years old!C'mon man, these vaccines, the whole "Pandemic" BS is A JOKE!
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”
only time will tell
看引文里“gravely ill”病例中完成接种者的比例
我见到一个屏蔽一个。
fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me three times?…
老人打得早，疫苗反应差，现在保护力下降明显，容易重病。而且老年人打的比例高，同年龄对照组(没打疫苗的) 人数也不会多。如果有住院人年龄的breakdown/vaccination status 就好了。
是啊，现在已经放弃说herd immunity了，改说重症占用医疗资源了，下一步呢？发现占用医疗资源的都是打过疫苗的咋办呢？
所以说如果疫苗打得时间不好，每次效率下降赶上超级变种流行咋办？优先打得岂不更惨
以色列过去一个月新冠死亡，55%超过80岁，85%超过70岁，96%超过60岁。所以如果有其他慢性病同时感染了新冠，死了的话算新冠死亡还是不算，不同国家统计方法肯定不一样。
过一个月再看…
过一个月两个月死亡统计数据还是这样，等着你到时候挖出来打脸。更可怕的是90岁以上接种疫苗的，接下来两年可能会死掉一大半。
90岁以上打不打疫苗接下来两年死亡概率都超过一半
最后发现90岁以上疫苗接种率接近100%，完了疫苗防重症的牛皮吹爆了
刚查了一下，以色列到今天为止，完成两针（full vaccinated) 的人数是59.9%。
然后gravely ill(重症？）的人中，full vaccinated 的比例是60%。
所以疫苗的效率是？
防感染早的不再提了，防重症的效率是？
你我引用的数据源，至少有一款必然假
公信力就是这么丧失的
根据https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/，美国死亡率1.7%，英国2.1%，德国2.4%，法国1.7%，瑞典1.3%，加拿大1.8%。。。。就列这么多了吧。
死亡率计算：total deaths / total cases
这什么时候是头啊？ 今年冬天又要重演去年？ 要疯了
不关心不在乎=病毒不存在，对吧？
全世界最关心这个东西的人
无聊
你不就是大名鼎鼎的WM吗？不是一直肉身在某国吗？为什么管别人呢？
不是说住院的99%是没打疫苗的吗？究竟是谁在挤占医疗资源，麻烦您弄明白。
现在的变种比去年厉害好多倍不知道吗？
神烦有些人每次都拿去年怎么怎么样说，还一堆人点赞，刻意忽略病毒变种的情况
要比没问题，至少比比同时期同样年龄同样健康状况下的感染率和重症率吧？
主要是无聊 + 大脑 有病!!!
和某些中东的极端穆斯林类似!!!
真希望 把 这些臭 华人大妈 送去阿富汗吧!!
她们 真应该 加入 塔里班
86.19% of “cases” are in the Vaccinated? Where's the eff'en “95% efficacy”? ///// August 6, 2021 - Public Health England - Technical Briefing 20 The Delta Variant in Those Over Age 50 ~20,000,000 people in the UK over age of 50 ~80% of the that population is vaccinated ~16,000,000 vaccinated and 4,000,000 unvaccinated
Cases: 21,472 in the “vaccinated” = .13% case rate in the vaccinated population 3,440 in the “unvaccinated” = .089% in the unvaccinated 0.041% higher case rate in the vaccinated 86.19% of all "cases" are vaccinated Emergency Care that required an overnight stay (ONS): 1,131 in the “fully vaccinated” = .007% ONS rate in the vaccinated population 670 in the “unvaccinated” = .017% in the unvaccinated 0.01% higher overnight hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated 63% of all ONS hospitalizations are "vaccinated"
Deaths 389 in the “fully vaccinated” = .002% death rate in the vaccinated population 205 in the “unvaccinated” = .005% in the unvaccinated 0.003% higher death rate for the unvaccinated 65.49% of all deaths occurred in the "vaccinated"! Hear that "in the news"? A total of 20,000,000 people, 80% are vaccinated leaving 4,000,000 unvaccinated and your TOTAL death count is 594 people? Seriously, how many of that number would have died from old age or bad can of beans? The majority of Covid deaths in the UK occurred in those over 75 years old! C'mon man, these vaccines, the whole "Pandemic" BS is A JOKE!
挺好的，你自己相信网上的留言区的计算，不相信医生的。不觉得有疫情，那就尽情享受生活吧。传染了不去医院就行。
我一直有个猜想，Delta Variant是一个适应了炎热气候的变种，北半球今年冬天可能会苦尽甘来。
你自己相信Fauci，是吗？
假设这个数据和顶楼数据都是真的 是不是说出现了免疫ADE 打了疫苗的更容易重症？
英 法德 死亡率接近吧
这两张图哪里能推出你这个结论？ 逻辑呢，还是你是红绿色盲? 明明打了疫苗的重症少多了吧
哈哈哈，这是在中国念过大学的。 我怀疑华人上发帖大妈，一半以上是坐船来的
我看你是文盲
顶楼讲60%重症患者是打了疫苗的 红绿图说打疫苗的感染者是少数
那你说，是打了疫苗更容易重症还是不打的更容易重症？
这图说明40岁以下打不打疫苗基本没有差别。
你引的红绿图不是感染者，是重症者 看来你不是色盲，是文盲
数据矛盾 看你信哪个了
顶楼原封不动援引Science
你那个science和红绿图不矛盾，science是总人数，红绿图是per 100 k，就是每100k打疫苗的和同样人数没打疫苗的比，而以色列大多数成人打过疫苗，所以重症中打疫苗的不少。 隔壁帖子里引了一个链接详细分析了science那篇里的数据，各年龄段疫苗对重症都挺有效的，链接https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-efficacy-vs-severe-disease-be-strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated
冤有头债有主 Science的截图 不加分毫修改 你去它那里抗议让他们更正好了
What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”
等中国全民疫苗了，如果再来一个南京出现重症，你也可以得到同样的结论啊，灭活疫苗有ade效果，去和你管理员说下看晚上给你加鸡腿不
报歉，已经改了发的帖子
你从哪里看出来打了疫苗更容易重症的？？
数据源都没错，但是这个简图比较了你和他的不同，清楚显示了为什么你错他对了： https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2720120&fid=398