CDC Director and liberal mouthpiece Dr.Rochelle Walensky told Wolf Blitzer on Friday that the COVID vaccine cannot prevent the transmission of the disease.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky: Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta in regard to severe illness and death being prevented. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.
So you can still spread the virus to the elderly and the sick. 官方通告疫苗不能阻止新冠病毒传染。但是可以防止重症和死亡。 但是一线医生出来说一个多月前CDC就要求医院剔除打过疫苗人再度感染，住院，重症和死亡的数字。所以剩下的都是没有打过疫苗的人。因此我们就听见这样的报道：医院里重症和死亡的都是没打过疫苗的。现在好多地方都和以色列说的一样。 疫苗对重症死亡没有防护作用，反而更不好。 那么请问，我们为何还要去打疫苗？
这个跟CDC 上的数据有一致性。 https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html Hospitalized or fatal COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC as of August 2, 2021 As of August 2, 2021, more than 164 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 7,525 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died. Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC Hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC7,525 Female 3,615(48%) People aged ≥65 years 5,557(74%) Asymptomatic infections 1,347(18%) Hospitalizations* 7,101(94%) Deaths† 1,507(20%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New data show: fully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID. This means that vaccinated individuals are also more likely to transmit the virus to others, including children who are not able to obtain a vaccine given their age.
CDC Director and liberal mouthpiece Dr.Rochelle Walensky told Wolf Blitzer on Friday that the COVID vaccine cannot prevent the transmission of the disease.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky: Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta in regard to severe illness and death being prevented. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.
So you can still spread the virus to the elderly and the sick. 官方通告疫苗不能阻止新冠病毒传染。但是可以防止重症和死亡。 但是一线医生出来说一个多月前CDC就要求医院剔除打过疫苗人再度感染，住院，重症和死亡的数字。所以剩下的都是没有打过疫苗的人。因此我们就听见这样的报道：医院里重症和死亡的都是没打过疫苗的。现在好多地方都和以色列说的一样。 疫苗对重症死亡没有防护作用，反而更不好。 那么请问，我们为何还要去打疫苗？
不要在黑疫苗了好不好。疫苗对付Delta变种有效性下降了。但是还是相当有效，看看丹麦实际数据。对于14万多人5个月（2到6月）的观察（第一针AZ，第二针辉瑞或者Moderna），多数是一线医护人员和老人。减少感染88%。文章特别说了主要是Alpha变种，但是6月份肯定也有一部分Delta变种了。他们防止住院和死亡的数据没有得到，因为实在太牛逼，根本没有住院和死亡病例（就是说100%防止住院和死亡）： It also provided no efficacy data on COVID-19 related deaths or hospitalisations, since none took place following the combined vaccination program. 来源：https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/science/2021/08/02/danish-study-mixing-covid-vaccines-effective/ 加拿大7月30的数据也很一致：0.7%的住院病例是fully vaccinated，85%是没有打过疫苗的。下面链接有详细的数据比例 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-canada-delta-variant-fourth-wave-161252013.html 一线医生的观察非常多，比如这个医生说现在住院的“几乎都是没有打疫苗的人”，而且死亡病例"99.2%是没有打疫苗的人"。他特别心疼地说，本来这些死亡大部分都是可以避免的： University of Alabama at Birmingham Associate Dean for Global Health， Dr. Michael Saag joins Yahoo Finance Live to discuss the latest COVID-19 updates as the delta variant raises concerns. 另外，楼主特别加红的“fully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID.” 是说打了疫苗的人更容易感染Delta是相比原始毒株而言。他（她）英文不行，根本理解错误，拿来支持自己的结论。
回复 25楼的帖子 你最后一段不是说我英文不好，理解错了“ully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID.”的意思？我啥时候理解错这句话的意思了？我一直引用的都是CDC和福奇说的。 还有，你说的所谓的重症有效，明显美国加拿大的数据跟以色列英国的不符，两边政府肯定有一边撒谎了。
回复 26楼CoolTeeth的帖子 住院人数是现在进行式，很有说服力。下面的文章提到住院数据："The KFF analysis also found that more than 90% of cases -- and more than 95% of hospitalizations and deaths -- have been among unvaccinated people. In most states, more than 98% of cases were among the unvaccinated." 来源： About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows - CNN 一线的医生没有动机去撒谎。几个国家数据不同可能性很多。比如疫苗普及率和时间（以色列普及的早，抗体水平下降较多），病毒变种的构成（比如加拿大主流Delta变种站76%多, Alpha约10%。以色列没有查数据，但是估计Delta变种更多，90%以上）。人口构成等等。
这个跟CDC 上的数据有一致性。 https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html Hospitalized or fatal COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC as of August 2, 2021 As of August 2, 2021, more than 164 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 7,525 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died. Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC Hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC7,525 Female 3,615(48%) People aged ≥65 years 5,557(74%) Asymptomatic infections 1,347(18%) Hospitalizations* 7,101(94%) Deaths† 1,507(20%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New data show: fully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID. This means that vaccinated individuals are also more likely to transmit the virus to others, including children who are not able to obtain a vaccine given their age.
CDC Director and liberal mouthpiece Dr.Rochelle Walensky told Wolf Blitzer on Friday that the COVID vaccine cannot prevent the transmission of the disease.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky: Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta in regard to severe illness and death being prevented. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.
So you can still spread the virus to the elderly and the sick. 官方通告疫苗不能阻止新冠病毒传染。但是可以防止重症和死亡。 但是一线医生出来说一个多月前CDC就要求医院剔除打过疫苗人再度感染，住院，重症和死亡的数字。所以剩下的都是没有打过疫苗的人。因此我们就听见这样的报道：医院里重症和死亡的都是没打过疫苗的。现在好多地方都和以色列说的一样。 疫苗对重症死亡没有防护作用，反而更不好。 那么请问，我们为何还要去打疫苗？
又是以色列的数据。上个月的新闻还是只占一半，这个月就变成95%了？！以色列接种 率也就70%。。。这还真不如不打疫苗！
Top Israeli Doctor Says: VACCINATED MAKE UP 95% OF ALL SEVERE COVID HOSPITALIZATIONS
"Effectiveness of the vaccine is really fading" https://mobile.twitter.com/jcconradson/status/1424035882454065155
我早说过中国五毛跟美国川粉其实共同利益大于彼此的矛盾，应该早日联合起来Make China Great Again!
FAKE NEWS AND FAKE SOURCE. 建议转墙里让傻韭菜们在high一茬
官方通告疫苗不能阻止新冠病毒传染。但是可以防止重症和死亡。 但是一线医生出来说一个多月前CDC就要求医院剔除打过疫苗人再度感染，住院，重症和死亡的数字。所以剩下的都是没有打过疫苗的人。因此我们就听见这样的报道：医院里重症和死亡的都是没打过疫苗的。现在好多地方都和以色列说的一样。 疫苗对重症死亡没有防护作用，反而更不好。
那么请问，我们为何还要去打疫苗？
大姐，你好歹打开链接看看里边的视频吧？右翼媒体的source也是这个视频，只要视频是真的媒体是右翼左翼又有啥关系？难道只要是右翼的就不能信？那左翼的天天撒谎你为啥还信？当然，如果你懂以色列语言认为视频说的不是这个意思请看完视频后告诉大家，谢谢
大姐，你好歹打开链接看看里边的视频吧？右翼媒体引用的也是这个视频，只要视频是真的媒体是右翼左翼又有啥关系？难道只要是右翼的就不能信？那左翼的天天撒谎你为啥还信？当然，如果你懂以色列语言看完视频后认为视频说的不是这个意思请告诉大家，谢谢
为你的后代积点口德吧，当然，如果你丁克当我没说
哪里的医生？美国的说法比较感兴趣。有详情吗？ 中国的就算了吧。
这个跟CDC 上的数据有一致性。
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
Hospitalized or fatal COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC as of August 2, 2021 As of August 2, 2021, more than 164 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 7,525 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died. Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC Hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC7,525 Female 3,615(48%) People aged ≥65 years 5,557(74%) Asymptomatic infections 1,347(18%) Hospitalizations* 7,101(94%) Deaths† 1,507(20%)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New data show: fully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID. This means that vaccinated individuals are also more likely to transmit the virus to others, including children who are not able to obtain a vaccine given their age.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3楼slimslimslim， 10楼dan1313: 事实上, 无论你们多恶毒，恶不过这病毒，看来这病毒定让你们先走了
楼上的， 还是听CDC 的话， 把口罩戴上吧
这个版面是硕果仅存的一个可以放开讨论“阴谋论”的地方了。多少阴谋论最后证实是事实。你居然还拿阴谋论说事儿。看来是疫苗打的次数不够。
今年最大的阴谋论，川普八月份重回白宫。这个能否成为现实，是检验阴谋论的金标准。
由“不防感染防重症” 进展为“不防重症防死亡”，这样下去，下个阶段该进入“不防死亡防往生”？那顺理成章的，不打疫苗的该是连死亡的机会都没了？
为了给美国大药厂做实验和赚钱
不防死亡防往生 逻辑通顺。
看看这些数据，打第3针的来凑个数吧： https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
哈哈哈，妹妹太有才了！必须赞！不过妹妹第一轮没说对，第一轮他们宣传的是说疫苗防感染因此可以帮助减缓病毒变异，要不然他们也不会要求17岁以下的打疫苗，要不然很多这版上的华人家长也不会害怕不打疫苗得了新冠有后遗症想给自家孩子打疫苗。第二轮才开始宣传疫苗不防感染防重症，但是依然要17岁以下的打疫苗。
你搞笑吧？你的意思是只要一个阴谋论是假的其他都是假的？哪怕其他很多已经被证明是真的？你平时工作的时候用的就是这种思维逻辑方式？为你老板默哀三秒钟。
这些还是self-reported 数据，没去上报的肯定更多，其他的人先不提，就看咱们这个网站的闲话版上那些哭诉自己浑身起疹子痒得没法睡觉和大姨妈乱的二十多天还没停的不知道有几个去CDC这个网站上报告了的。这些副作用不会要人命但是严重降低生活质量，说让人生不如死都不过分。很多人自己运气好没碰上所以觉得无所谓，运气不好碰上了的只能认倒霉。
加拿大7月30的数据也很一致：0.7%的住院病例是fully vaccinated，85%是没有打过疫苗的。下面链接有详细的数据比例 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-canada-delta-variant-fourth-wave-161252013.html
一线医生的观察非常多，比如这个医生说现在住院的“几乎都是没有打疫苗的人”，而且死亡病例"99.2%是没有打疫苗的人"。他特别心疼地说，本来这些死亡大部分都是可以避免的： University of Alabama at Birmingham Associate Dean for Global Health， Dr. Michael Saag joins Yahoo Finance Live to discuss the latest COVID-19 updates as the delta variant raises concerns.
另外，楼主特别加红的“ fully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID.” 是说打了疫苗的人更容易感染Delta是相比原始毒株而言。他（她）英文不行，根本理解错误，拿来支持自己的结论。
嗯，以色列英国人的体质跟美国和加拿大的都不一样，要不然就是以色列英国撒谎了
还有，说打了疫苗的鼻子里的病毒load 跟没打的一样，跟没打疫苗的一样容易传播的是CDC的director 和福奇，不是我。你是不是听不懂英文所以没看电视采访？
你在胡搅蛮缠了。没有人否定对于Delta病毒，“打了疫苗的鼻子里的病毒load 跟没打的一样，跟没打疫苗的一样可以传播”。我引用的数据支持疫苗“防止重症和死亡”非常有效，反驳你说的疫苗无用。
你最后一段不是说我英文不好，理解错了“ully vaccinated people are considerably more likely to become infected with the Delta variant than the original strain of COVID.”的意思？我啥时候理解错这句话的意思了？我一直引用的都是CDC和福奇说的。
还有，你说的所谓的重症有效，明显美国加拿大的数据跟以色列英国的不符，两边政府肯定有一边撒谎了。
刚看到有人说，97%没打疫苗的数字都是从去年4月开始累积的，这样就能说得通了。回头我去查查资料看是不是如此。
住院人数是现在进行式，很有说服力。下面的文章提到住院数据："The KFF analysis also found that more than 90% of cases -- and more than 95% of hospitalizations and deaths -- have been among unvaccinated people. In most states, more than 98% of cases were among the unvaccinated."
来源： About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows - CNN
一线的医生没有动机去撒谎。几个国家数据不同可能性很多。比如疫苗普及率和时间（以色列普及的早，抗体水平下降较多），病毒变种的构成（比如加拿大主流Delta变种站76%多, Alpha约10%。以色列没有查数据，但是估计Delta变种更多，90%以上）。人口构成等等。
我看了你提供的CDC网页。请问CDC的数据跟以色列数据哪里有一致性？还是你自己的想象？还有，你下面的new data show，是哪里的解读？有什么依据？CDC没有这个解读，请你提供来源。
病毒变异太快，疫苗不太有用也很正常
最担心的是ADE，反而打疫苗的会很惨
害怕就别打啊。。。
很多人是不想打啊，问题是很多地方在各种换着法子逼人打啊，如果没强制这种事谁还在乎啊
只有个别医院强制了吧？我觉得真的不打也不能把你怎么样，毕竟还是EUA呢。
纽约市已经强制所有政府工打疫苗了，很多公司也在强制。拜登说联邦雇员如果不想打就得三天测一次，这就是变相强制。
欧洲更是疫苗护照遍地开花，要不然也不会爆发那么多抗议游行。
你的对一致性的定义是什么？你想要的 一致性是什么
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w
https://mansfieldct.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=831
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data