替楼主贴个原文 https://www.ft.com/content/b5366f23-f6fd-4c36-82db-79cef60ab6a0 7 HOURS AGO06:01 UK cases among vaccinated set to outstrip those among unprotected, study finds Oliver Ralph Covid-19 cases among vaccinated people in the UK are set to overtake those in the unvaccinated, according to the weekly Zoe study. The study, which uses an app to monitor symptomatic cases of the disease, found that the number of infections among fully or partly vaccinated people has jumped 40 per cent this week to just over 15,500 per day. By contrast, the study suggested that symptomatic cases among unvaccinated people have peaked, falling 22 per cent over the period to 17,581. “New cases in vaccinated people are still going up and will soon outpace unvaccinated cases. This is probably because we’re running out of unvaccinated susceptible people to infect as more and more people get the vaccine,” said Tim Spector, a professor at King’s College London who is the lead scientist on the Zoe study. He added: “Whilst the figures look worrying, it’s important to highlight that vaccines have massively reduced severe infections and post-vaccination Covid is a much milder disease for most people. The main concern is now the risk of long Covid.” The study found that there are about 550 cases of long Covid a day among unvaccinated people.
“New cases in vaccinated people are still going up and will soon outpace unvaccinated cases. This is probably because we’re running out of unvaccinated susceptible people to infect as more and more people get the vaccine,” said Tim Spector, a professor at King’s College London who is the lead scientist on the Zoe study. He added: “Whilst the figures look worrying, it’s important to highlight that vaccines have massively reduced severe infections and post-vaccination Covid is a much milder disease for most people. The main concern is now the risk of long Covid.” 没打的群体免疫了,而且打过疫苗重症massively reduced。好消息啊。
“New cases in vaccinated people are still going up and will soon outpace unvaccinated cases. “This is probably because we’re running out of unvaccinated susceptible people to infect as more and more people get the vaccine.”
打了疫苗重症率低了不看?
打了疫苗死亡率低了也不看?
可能是打了疫苗的基数越来越大,加上疫苗有escape导致的
楼主你题目听起来像是打了疫苗更容易感染似的很误导
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/3-in-5-uk-adults-receive-both-doses-of-covid-19-vaccine
三周前,UK已经82%的成人接种过第一剂了
Haha 一看到疫苗不好的文章就迫不及待的分享
https://www.ft.com/content/b5366f23-f6fd-4c36-82db-79cef60ab6a0
7 HOURS AGO06:01
UK cases among vaccinated set to outstrip those among unprotected, study finds Oliver Ralph
Covid-19 cases among vaccinated people in the UK are set to overtake those in the unvaccinated, according to the weekly Zoe study.
The study, which uses an app to monitor symptomatic cases of the disease, found that the number of infections among fully or partly vaccinated people has jumped 40 per cent this week to just over 15,500 per day.
By contrast, the study suggested that symptomatic cases among unvaccinated people have peaked, falling 22 per cent over the period to 17,581.
“New cases in vaccinated people are still going up and will soon outpace unvaccinated cases. This is probably because we’re running out of unvaccinated susceptible people to infect as more and more people get the vaccine,” said Tim Spector, a professor at King’s College London who is the lead scientist on the Zoe study.
He added: “Whilst the figures look worrying, it’s important to highlight that vaccines have massively reduced severe infections and post-vaccination Covid is a much milder disease for most people. The main concern is now the risk of long Covid.”
The study found that there are about 550 cases of long Covid a day among unvaccinated people.
楼主这个弱智,英文没学好,出来急吼吼闹大笑话不是第一回了 大家习惯了就好,让IT继续现眼呗
Uk在打疫苗方面很aggressive 打过的基数很大
文章主题 打疫苗 = protected
错了,它是一看到中共产国以外的疫苗的文章就迫不及待的蹦跶出来百度翻译。它党母的高端全自主产权灭活大疫苗它还是要扑上去舔的。上次就是因为把AA航班operating strain百度翻译成变种贻笑大方,这两天估计没少被中领馆小头头二奶骂,智商又下降了!
打过的人打都打了,不想看这些消息情有可原。
隔壁楼不是发了打过的人欢欣鼓舞的数字吗?
以色列现在的数据显示,接种疫苗后被感染并重症和死亡是千分之0.05 这概率真低!! (234+90)/ 5M
总共打过的人是5M,是分母。以色列可能还有不到4M的没打。
好吧 ft也是假新闻了啊
不找优越感 就说一下看到的 不过楼里说的对 数量上会增加 不是概率
主要是bookmark一下 以后总是会有人说疫苗有阻断效果 那这篇新闻是个反证
我就分享一下新闻 评价都是你们自己的想法呀
也不能说明疫苗没有阻断效果
举个极端例子,打了疫苗得病概率是1/1M,不打是1/10,英国如果40M打了,40个人得病,剩下全国只有10个人没有大,1个人得病。也是打了疫苗得病数量多呀,但没有阻断效果吗?
是最靠谱的business news,没有之一,比美国的WSJ更靠谱。 只不过楼主只贴了标题没有贴全文而已。
不评论内容。但层主是不是太孤陋寡闻了,竟然不知道ft, 这么有名的,而且reputable的媒体。
你这个文章只能证明疫苗不能绝对阻断病毒传播,并非完全不能阻断。从1传10的降到1传1.5也是阻断了绝大部分啊。
而且从没有人说过疫苗能够绝对阻断传播吧。
你打疫苗没
你不是说7/15死亡率会暴涨吗?暴涨了吗?
少看点神叨叨的东西,多看点书,对你心理健康有好处。
标题是说在打过疫苗里感染的人数,可能会超过没打过疫苗里感染的人数。 但这难道不是正常的进程吗?越来越多人打疫苗,自然感染的都是打过疫苗的。
这傻子都知道,根本也不需要study,如果UK所有的人都打疫苗,那么感染的人肯定都是打过疫苗的,而没有打过疫苗的人肯定就是0,感染的也就是0.
文章类似于说太阳是圆的,地球是转的。说了等于没说。
我说是转折点,可以看到数据上涨,我没说暴涨,你没看到吗?不着急,还有好几个日子呢,8月3号,9月20号。。。。呵呵,接下来你会知道什么叫科学,什么叫神神叨叨。我看的书够多,所以可以知道更多。不劳费心
这位感觉神经有问题 整天盼着美国完蛋
你头像很可爱
没有明确说过,但是大家都以为至少94%有效阻断。翻翻一个月以前的旧帖子。希望你说的是对的,阻断一部分也不错。
现在还说99%减轻重症和死亡,过1个月再看看现在的帖子吧。希望减轻重症和死亡真的好些。
帽子扣的够大,厉害!
刚从worldmeter截下来的。
然后呢?4月份,6月份?你想看峰值吧,现在开始上坡,还没到峰值,有点耐心.话说回来,9月份到一个峰值,明年1月份是更高的峰值,然后你要怎样?我说对了,so what....你想证明什么
你说这个是个人就能知道,9月回去上班上学可不是得有个峰值,1月是冬天,本来就各种呼吸道疾病,可不是得有个峰值。。。说这种基本常识就直接说,没必要把自己包装成半仙。唯一你说的是这波能比去年死亡还高,那就是超过60万,我不信,这个我们可以走着看。
百分之九十四是三期结果 又不是对delta 的结果 欧美好处是数据明明白白给你看 怎么得来的也公开 你自己胡搅蛮缠质疑疫苗是别有目的吧
我只是说出我知道的,至于你信不信,我根本不在乎,我说出来的目的是希望有缘的人可以自保,知道接下来要发生什么,至于没有缘分的人,生死与我有什么关系,人间本来就要死一大批人,这个时间已经推迟了10个月,但是时间到了现在该死的也定下来了,我也犯不上为这个把自己包装成什么,什么神神叨叨,什么半仙不过是你们对于你们不相信的人说的话的一种贬低的称呼而已,真的无所谓。一个网络,素昧平生,瘟疫一过,该散的自然会散
信大仙 但是大仙说的话看不懂啊 到底疫苗好还是不好啊
什么是转折点? 数据上涨就是转折点? 你这种语言和以前算命的说得含含糊糊的,怎么都能圆不是一样的性质?
同样的逻辑,惊爆,一百岁以下的人的死亡人数超过一百岁以上的死亡人数。年纪低于一百岁的人更容易死亡!!!寿命超过一千多的人没有发现感染和死亡的病例。
随着打疫苗的人数越来越多 打过的基数越来越大
一个月前对非delta的阻断是挺高的。对delta的阻断效力肯定是降了,因为病毒载量就高很多。不过就目前的报告来看阻断效力肯定是有的,有多好还没有看到很好的数据。带好口罩吧。
UK 有三分之二的人都至少打了First Dose Vaccination, 2:1 的基數,再加上沒有Vaccinated 得先得過了,肯定會追上來啊。
EECS大叔就是不一样,脑瓜清楚。手动点赞。
我化工!
啊 这个好 谢谢
cal的chemistry排第一a
这是对的 不过也说明之前乱讲阻断的那些id需要清醒一下
之前那么多喜欢拿数字降低来证明疫苗有阻断作用的 能明白即使没有疫苗 感染数到达一定高度之后本来就会降了吗?
金融时报也是笑话?
辉瑞在以色列的数据显示对Delta 只有64%防护率,而在英国大量施打的AZ疫苗防护率更差,尤其对南非变种。
你要么是逻辑有问题,要么根本不了解奇葩楼猪
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