再去读了一下这新闻里面提供的关于74个FULLY VACCINATED死亡患者的信息,LINK如下 https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Post-Vaccine-COVID19-Cases.aspx 我把这段COPY过来,读红字部分。有50%的患者住院原因不明,他们住院时被要求测试COVID并呈阳性,但并不一定是COVID19症状严重,可能是其他原因住院,但也算在因COVID住院和死亡病人数目里面: What Is the Current Data on Post-Vaccination Cases in California? Between January 01, 2021 and July 7, 2021 in California: Out of over 20.4 million fully vaccinated individuals, 10,430 post-vaccination cases (0.051%) have been identified. At least 728 individuals identified as post-vaccination COVID-19 cases were hospitalized. However, it is important to note that approximately 50% of cases have missing hospitalization data. It is also important to note that a post-vaccine case may have been hospitalized for a condition unrelated to COVID-19 reason but were tested for COVID-19 upon admission. Among post-vaccination cases identified, at least 74 people have died. However, it is unknown if the primary cause of death in these cases was COVID-19 or if there were other contributory or alternate causes.
加州已经死了74 fully vaxxed In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population 疫苗不是神药,有效率也不是100%,打了疫苗后还是感染COVID-19的死亡病例,要看看死亡的人的年龄,身体情况。生老病死是规律,身体十分不好或者年龄很大的人,感冒咳喘就能要命。
一小时以前的新闻 https://abc7news.com/covid-breakthrough-cases-case-delta-variant-vaccinated/10885528/ 加州已经死了74 fully vaxxed
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/dozens-of-vaccinated-residents-have-died-of-covid-in-mass-what-to-know-about-breakthrough-cases/2430578/
这种神药数据宣传已经一周了, 另一个楼里面LA县说的也是99%。我觉得这些数字是真的,但有人看出来点什么了吗?
那种保护效率降低是细胞系上看的抗体对变种的中和效率不是基于人群的传染效率。不过这个时当地卫生部门的数据还是媒体自己说的?
提示一下,参考一下vaccine efficacy最高的也就是95%,对delta早就降到了84%甚至更低。
说的真对
发现啥了讲解一下呗
efficacy搞到现在都不会算 也是大写的服气
三门考试最高95分,总平均算到99分,啥感觉?
我同意有用,但是99%这个数字就是洗脑。这数字绝对上不了学术期刊,只能再主流媒体里面给老百姓洗脑了。
哦,你以为医学数据是简单的数学题,那你要失算了
你连简单的数学都搞不清楚,还有脸说
wow.
一个是大规模放开后的有效率,之前是疫苗加口罩双重buff,有限制措施时,人们接触病毒的概率和载量不高,全面开放后大量潜在感染病例,环境中病毒载量大增的话,打了疫苗身体里的抗体扛不扛的住 一个是新冠的长期后遗症,即使不是重症,也不好说会对人体有什么样的影响。有些长期后遗症也很折磨人。还有那些不能打疫苗的小孩子。
现在有好多对疫苗乐观的人,觉得打上疫苗新冠就变大号流感的。让人想起大流行刚开始的时候的某些论调。病毒不是也没惯着人们,撑不住了就都改口了口罩也乖乖带了。不知道这回也是不是乐观的太早了。 谨慎一些,再给病毒一段时间。估计8月就能看出更多了
新闻视频里面说加州有两个医院里面最近死了4个FULLY VACCINATED的老人,平均每5个死亡患者里面有1个,而且都是上了岁数的,考虑到老人接种率那么高,其中极少数人BREAKTHROUGH后死亡,说明死亡概率依旧是很低的。
另外,以色列这两天确诊数量又下降了一点,也是因为以色列室内口罩令的执行有效帮助控制变种病毒传播,观望中。
再去读了一下这新闻里面提供的关于74个FULLY VACCINATED死亡患者的信息,LINK如下 https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Post-Vaccine-COVID19-Cases.aspx
我把这段COPY过来,读红字部分。有50%的患者住院原因不明,他们住院时被要求测试COVID并呈阳性,但并不一定是COVID19症状严重,可能是其他原因住院,但也算在因COVID住院和死亡病人数目里面:
What Is the Current Data on Post-Vaccination Cases in California? Between January 01, 2021 and July 7, 2021 in California: Out of over 20.4 million fully vaccinated individuals, 10,430 post-vaccination cases (0.051%) have been identified. At least 728 individuals identified as post-vaccination COVID-19 cases were hospitalized. However, it is important to note that approximately 50% of cases have missing hospitalization data. It is also important to note that a post-vaccine case may have been hospitalized for a condition unrelated to COVID-19 reason but were tested for COVID-19 upon admission. Among post-vaccination cases identified, at least 74 people have died. However, it is unknown if the primary cause of death in these cases was COVID-19 or if there were other contributory or alternate causes.
加州已经死了74 fully vaxxed
In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population
疫苗不是神药,有效率也不是100%,打了疫苗后还是感染COVID-19的死亡病例,要看看死亡的人的年龄,身体情况。生老病死是规律,身体十分不好或者年龄很大的人,感冒咳喘就能要命。
不觉得没打疫苗的都会那么自觉,带口罩还不聚会。你太美化不打疫苗的人了。
积极打预防针的人群也是比较小心的人群,不信预防针不戴口罩到处party的群重叠,这不奇怪吧,
不同人用不同方法对不同人群做的统计,百分之几的data scatter太正常了。
数量级正确(例如都高于90%)就算重复成功。
哪能这么算呢?
管理部门最喜欢给你 headline,细节不说。其实每天公布数据确诊中多少是已打疫苗的比例有那么难吗?不难,但比例肯定不低,所以选择隐瞒。
我们打了疫苗,但还是出去戴口罩。
哈哈哈!
我敢保证,到那时候不接种疫苗者的死亡率也是100%
哈哈哈
洗什么脑?死亡和进医院99%是未打疫苗的是 san diego county 一个地方的数据
你这个同事有说他是怎么被传染的么?
你们一起吃法实在外面餐厅一起么?还是在公司?
哈哈,👍
打了疫苗的人就不应该死,现在疫苗是按长生不老药的标准要求的,不然牛皮就破了!
同意,有些怎么被淘汰的都不知道
踢足球也会
不懂,从另一个帖子里看5个感染的人里只有一个是打过疫苗的,那效果也很错了啊
单纯说95分已经很高了 有效率对新变种就算降到85%也很好了啊?
对,有人喜欢裸奔,那也是没办法的事儿。群体免疫是一将功成万骨枯的活儿,可怜的是好多人就觉得自己会是那个将。
一个是死亡人数 一个是住院人数 最后那个是感染人数 所以98% 98% 99% 都是没有打疫苗的 是有可能的呀 因为大部分感染的不用住院 当然也更没有死去
很多人都以为自己掌握了真相
可是真相在哪里呢
1将w骨枯?群免会死99。99%?
他也不知道,他很小心的,家里有小baby,哪里都没有去过,怀疑是坐过两次通勤火车传染的。吃饭是在公司楼下的餐厅吃的。通过这事儿,我们都很庆幸自己打了疫苗,不然我们肯定被传染上了,而且breakthrough的那位同事也不可能这么快就好了
版上几个疫苗黑成天在这里跳脚干嘛呢
没打过疫苗传染上的,百分之九十也很快就好了。
According to data updated Wednesday by the Illinois Department of Public Health, 151 people in Illinois have died due to COVID-19 or complications after being fully vaccinated. That figure equates to 2.2% of COVID-19 deaths in the state since Jan. 1, officials said. //**********************// 以色列的新闻 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/for-first-time-since-march-855-new-coronavirus-cases-in-israel-674084 自己看吧,无语了。