摸鱼的要点是你要牵着老板的鼻子走。 非常重要的deadline不能误了， 其他的慢慢搞。一周给老板汇报一次工作，有时候你花个10分钟发个email就有progress了。而且要给老板事情做，比如这事我整了整不了，我再试试还不行的话，你来吧？ 问题是摸鱼要有个目的。 比如找公司人聊天，找老同事lunch，那是联络感情，做跳槽准备。其他的，炒股也行，卖房也可以，读专业书也行，逛华人也行。总之，能摸鱼就说明you deserve way more，升职加薪，或work life balance才是终极目的。
When you joggle multiple projects simultaneously, you'd better be strategic. Being strategic doesn't mean being lazy. Organize your work into 4 groups that you can apply the rule of 4 D's: Urgent and important: Do Urgent but not important: Delegate Not urgent but important: Defer Not urgent or important: Drop When the reports come in, you don't have to present all the stuff in your possession to your boss all at once. Again be strategic. Always report the things urgent and the things you drop, but save any important things that aren't urgent for a later day. It's a good practice because of the so called "what-you-have-done-lately " business mentality. By saving stuff for a later report, you make yourself look constantly productive and in the meantime, you control the pace of the project,
摸鱼的要点是你要牵着老板的鼻子走。 非常重要的deadline不能误了， 其他的慢慢搞。一周给老板汇报一次工作，有时候你花个10分钟发个email就有progress了。而且要给老板事情做，比如这事我整了整不了，我再试试还不行的话，你来吧？ 问题是摸鱼要有个目的。 比如找公司人聊天，找老同事lunch，那是联络感情，做跳槽准备。其他的，炒股也行，卖房也可以，读专业书也行，逛华人也行。总之，能摸鱼就说明you deserve way more，升职加薪，或work life balance才是终极目的。
When you joggle multiple projects simultaneously, you'd better be strategic. Being strategic doesn't mean being lazy. Organize your work into 4 groups that you can apply the rule of 4 D's: Urgent and important: Do Urgent but not important: Delegate Not urgent but important: Defer Not urgent or important: Drop When the reports come in, you don't have to present all the stuff in your possession to your boss all at once. Again be strategic. Always report the things urgent and the things you drop, but save any important things that aren't urgent for a later day. It's a good practice because of the so called "what-you-have-done-lately " business mentality. By saving stuff for a later report, you make yourself look constantly productive and in the meantime, you control the pace of the project, YTD1Smore 发表于 2021-07-03 16:52
When you joggle multiple projects simultaneously, you'd better be strategic. Being strategic doesn't mean being lazy. Organize your work into 4 groups that you can apply the rule of 4 D's: Urgent and important: Do Urgent but not important: Delegate Not urgent but important: Defer Not urgent or important: Drop When the reports come in, you don't have to present all the stuff in your possession to your boss all at once. Again be strategic. Always report the things urgent and the things you drop, but save any important things that aren't urgent for a later day. It's a good practice because of the so called "what-you-have-done-lately " business mentality. By saving stuff for a later report, you make yourself look constantly productive and in the meantime, you control the pace of the project, YTD1Smore 发表于 2021-07-03 16:52
When you joggle multiple projects simultaneously, you''d better be strategic. Being strategic doesn''t mean being lazy. Organize your work into 4 groups that you can apply the rule of 4 D''s: Urgent and important: Do Urgent but not important: Delegate Not urgent but important: Defer Not urgent or important: Drop When the reports come in, you don''t have to present all the stuff in your possession to your boss all at once. Again be strategic. Always report the things urgent and the things you drop, but save any important things that aren''t urgent for a later day. It''s a good practice because of the so called "what-you-have-done-lately " business mentality. By saving stuff for a later report, you make yourself look constantly productive and in the meantime, you control the pace of the project, YTD1Smore 发表于 2021-07-03 16:52
你有这闲工夫开始细分的时候 还不如多TM出点活。 每天闲着细分工作 vs being more productive. 像在工作上有建树还是要多干活，不仅要多干，重要的是要懂得怎么干，为什么要这么干， 能不能那样干等一系列的脑洞。 这才有助你在工作上的进步。 而不是你一进办公室开始分活。 磨洋工了一天啥屁也没学到就是赚个工资。
鲜花牛人多，请大家分享一下经验。
这个对，每天的to-do list 不应该只是注重别人给的deadline, 还应该把日期推掉，推后，到自己能够舒服的程度。
做完了先不急着交上去，把一件事分成N干个细节，就说自己在做哪一部分，等大家都交的时候再交
老美很会摸鱼，就中国人只知道闷头苦干又拿不到credit
害，这马甲也挺忙的，又要婚外情又要忙着摸鱼
请问用具体例子可以展开说吗？
是指不忙的时候用存货交差吗？请详细说一说
re.这一点很重要，老美老印都很会玩这个
感谢，真知灼见。说出了我摸鱼的初衷：用上班时间学东西技术，积累经验，找mentor
问题是摸鱼要有个目的。 比如找公司人聊天，找老同事lunch，那是联络感情，做跳槽准备。其他的，炒股也行，卖房也可以，读专业书也行，逛华人也行。总之，能摸鱼就说明you deserve way more，升职加薪，或work life balance才是终极目的。
When you joggle multiple projects simultaneously, you'd better be strategic. Being strategic doesn't mean being lazy. Organize your work into 4 groups that you can apply the rule of 4 D's: Urgent and important: Do Urgent but not important: Delegate Not urgent but important: Defer Not urgent or important: Drop When the reports come in, you don't have to present all the stuff in your possession to your boss all at once. Again be strategic. Always report the things urgent and the things you drop, but save any important things that aren't urgent for a later day. It's a good practice because of the so called "what-you-have-done-lately " business mentality. By saving stuff for a later report, you make yourself look constantly productive and in the meantime, you control the pace of the project,
“给老板事情”做这个提醒太好了，又可以给老板参与感，又可以有拍马屁的点。不愧是华人网友，金玉良言啊。 但是如果刚来3个礼拜的新老板不上路，资源和技术都没有，只会绕圈说话，是个people manager，是不是跳槽准备起来？还是有其他的突破点？ 谢谢
这个4D方法真是太及时了。不愧是卧虎藏龙的华人网友。 我以前只把工作分成紧急和不紧急的。看了您的细致指导，再结合上面一位网友说的每个礼拜花10分钟报告一下进度。还有另一位网友说的要把任务细分。我现在有个action plan的大概轮廓了。
应该是休息四天后吧。。。
这个好，简单有效易操作。 请问多发的频率是？推荐一般一个主题一礼拜2次，1次？ 如果没有那么多progress报告。请问有其他让老板觉得我在不停做事email的话题可以写吗？
这个方法真是一箭双雕。结合4D方法，如果timeline可以商量，说明不紧急，新的timeline又有给了一个摸鱼时间。
同意。我的“摸鱼”就是利用上班时间学了个certificate，然后多给老板画大饼。然后做漂亮的个人portfolio，改简历，research喜欢的公司，然后跳槽涨薪。
这是摸鱼的最高境界。我的可能是最低境界，我就是一天把一周的活干出来，然后每天上交1/5。
👍4D说得太到位
这个策略实在是给力，尤其是对我这种手头同时有20+ projects的，源源不断的project, 永远做不完。
牛老板对各种摸鱼的招数都门清... 我觉得还是好好干，风格不一样没啥。日久见人心啊。
这说错了 那又怎样 he knows I know
你不知道升职比跳槽加的薪少很多吗？
升职不一定比跳槽加的薪少，是平级等年终自动加薪比跳槽加的薪少。
你有这闲工夫开始细分的时候 还不如多TM出点活。 每天闲着细分工作 vs being more productive. 像在工作上有建树还是要多干活，不仅要多干，重要的是要懂得怎么干，为什么要这么干， 能不能那样干等一系列的脑洞。 这才有助你在工作上的进步。 而不是你一进办公室开始分活。 磨洋工了一天啥屁也没学到就是赚个工资。
Re这个 我见过道行最高的人，不停的给老板发邮件，有时候改一个字母也给老板发邮件问老板的意见，真的就是改一个字母而且是明显的typo需要改正的那种，如果碰到吃这一套的老板，这么做很有用，当然你得先确认你老板是个奇葩吃这一套，否则你这么做会让老板觉得你有问题，说实话我觉得这么做的人很可悲，但是不失为一种办法，适合混吃等死的马屁精和专吃马屁的无能老板
不会啊，我们这行升职也就加个15-20%，可是跳槽绝对可以加到30%以上。
严重同意